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i chaired the ethics committee at one time. we actually took action against democratic members who violated the rules. because the ethics committee is supposed to be beyond partisanship -- >> but you did that as the party of the person. you're talking about charlie rangel. you oversaw his trial -- >> and others. >> you did that as a member of the party of the person who was being rebuked. and you know republicans are not going to do that. so the effect of sending this referral to the ethics committee is for it to die in that committee. why do that? >> well, we'll see. i mean, the ethics committee is evenly divided. five democrats, five republicans. and they are supposed to act without regard to party. and when i chaired the committee, that's what we did. and i would like to believe that that pattern which is in the house rules will be followed. if it isn't, shame on them. >> but if that was the case, you would have allowed kevin mccarthy's suggestions for the january 6th committee to go in the committee. that wasn't -- or democ
i chaired the ethics committee at one time. we actually took action against democratic members who violated the rules. because the ethics committee is supposed to be beyond partisanship -- >> but you did that as the party of the person. you're talking about charlie rangel. you oversaw his trial -- >> and others. >> you did that as a member of the party of the person who was being rebuked. and you know republicans are not going to do that. so the effect of sending this referral...
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there were also referrals made to the house ethics committee against lawmakers who failed to comply with subpoenas. all this occurred as the committee submitted evidence that will be included in an eight chapter report expected to be released to the public wednesday.
there were also referrals made to the house ethics committee against lawmakers who failed to comply with subpoenas. all this occurred as the committee submitted evidence that will be included in an eight chapter report expected to be released to the public wednesday.
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. >> reporter: republican lawmakers who snubbed committee subpoenas referred to the house ethics committee. after 17 months of investigating and roughly a thousand witness interviews, the committee determined that trump knew the fraud allegations he was pushing were false but continued to amplify them anyway. >> the committee has evidence that ex-president trump planned to declare victory and unlawfully to call for the vote-counting to stop and that he told numerous allies about his intent in the weeks before the election. >> say a couple of words. >> reporter: even some of trump's closest allies like hope hicks worried the claims were damaging his legacy and yet he persisted. >> he said something along the lines of nobody will care about my legacy if i lose, so that won't matter. the only thing that matters is -- is winning. >> reporter: trump worked on a scheme to transmit false electoral college ballotsaged replace department of justice electors that would do his bidding. >> president trump spearhead an unprecedented campaign to coerce him to do it anyway, ultimately culminating in a da
. >> reporter: republican lawmakers who snubbed committee subpoenas referred to the house ethics committee. after 17 months of investigating and roughly a thousand witness interviews, the committee determined that trump knew the fraud allegations he was pushing were false but continued to amplify them anyway. >> the committee has evidence that ex-president trump planned to declare victory and unlawfully to call for the vote-counting to stop and that he told numerous allies about his...
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one avenue the committee could go down is referring them to the house ethics committee, keeping this issue within the capital and not sending it to another agency but just sending it to a congressional committee. that is a possibility that is on the table. adam schiff said yesterday that is one of the avenues they were looking at to deal with the five lawmakers. we will find out what happens today. host: the ethics committee would be one of the few committees that still would be bipartisan going into the republican dominated house. guest: that is an interesting prospect here to see if the committee will want to further look into these allegations. it will be within a republican majority in the house, which could set up roadblocks in terms of the entire climate within the capital for the ethics committee, but it would be a significant step, these five lawmakers got one of whom is running for speaker and could be speaker the next congress cannot be referred to the ethics committee for such a public thing and when i say public i mean in the public spotlight and known to the american peo
one avenue the committee could go down is referring them to the house ethics committee, keeping this issue within the capital and not sending it to another agency but just sending it to a congressional committee. that is a possibility that is on the table. adam schiff said yesterday that is one of the avenues they were looking at to deal with the five lawmakers. we will find out what happens today. host: the ethics committee would be one of the few committees that still would be bipartisan...
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>> well i'm not sure that what the ethics committee will do. the committee did not make criminal referrals for them. but i think introducing their names, the justice department could still call them and questioned them about the role they played in january six. and so, while i think that the january six committee is a really important thing in highlighting members of the republican party that were still essential players and did potentially unethical things that day and that they should someone should take note. and if nothing is happening on the committee, at least it is in the record that they stated their claim that these folks were a part of this attempt to overthrow our government. >> they got in the records. was there anything more than that? >> well, i think that probably not for the congressional side, but eventually said i guess they could be called as witnesses as part of the doj investigation. that's what the action is there any way, these referrals are interesting, but the real action is that the department of justice in if they wan
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on the ethics committee referrals. have you reached out to the ethics committee about what their process is gonna be? what happens come january. republicans are in charge. these members of congress, should they to not be held accountable? after the civil war, members of the united states senate two sided with the confederacy were expelled by their colleagues. >> yes. obviously, that was called the ku klux klan act of 1871. when individuals came forward. and passed that law. so that you could not be intimidated if you came and participated with this government of ours. so i think that people should not be intimidated. i think we absolutely have a right as americans to participate and not be intimidated. so, to be honest with you simone. what occurred on january 6th. and what our committee ultimately uncovered. well there were individuals who wanted to alter the outcome of the will of the people. and they were prepared in texting the chief of staff for president and other people quoting these kinds of things. never in my
on the ethics committee referrals. have you reached out to the ethics committee about what their process is gonna be? what happens come january. republicans are in charge. these members of congress, should they to not be held accountable? after the civil war, members of the united states senate two sided with the confederacy were expelled by their colleagues. >> yes. obviously, that was called the ku klux klan act of 1871. when individuals came forward. and passed that law. so that you...
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nbc has exclusively learned the committee plans to refer for -- house ethics committee. nbc has not yet confirmed which for lock me coors the committee will discipline, but we do know five house members in total, you can see them there, including minority leader kevin mccarthy, refused to comply with committees subpoenas. congressman adam schiff saying this earlier today, about criminal referrals. >> that will be something we will be considering tomorrow. you know, we have weighed what, is the remedy for members of congress? it is a criminal referral to another branch of government or? is better that the congress polices its own? >> we are still waiting on the select committee's written report committee releases the full report wednesday. we are going to get the executive summary and chapter titles tomorrow. joining me now, washington post white house reporter, tyler pager. lauren egan, white house reporter and west wing played -- political and joyce vance from u.s. attorney and professor at university of alabama law school. she is an msnbc contributor and co-hosts. hash
nbc has exclusively learned the committee plans to refer for -- house ethics committee. nbc has not yet confirmed which for lock me coors the committee will discipline, but we do know five house members in total, you can see them there, including minority leader kevin mccarthy, refused to comply with committees subpoenas. congressman adam schiff saying this earlier today, about criminal referrals. >> that will be something we will be considering tomorrow. you know, we have weighed what,...
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on the ethics committee referrals, have you reached out to the ethics committee about what their processes is going to be, what happens come january, republicans are in charge and then for these other members of congress should they to not be held accountable after the civil war, members of the united states senate who sided with confederacy they were expelled by their colleagues? >> well, yes, obviously that was called the ku klux klan act of 1871 where individuals came forward and passed that law, so that you couldn't be intimidated if you came and participated with this great government of ours. i think people should not be intimidated, i think we absolutely have a right as americans to participate and not be intimidated, to be honest with you, simone, what occurred on january six and what our committee uncovered, while there were individuals who really wanted to alter the outcome of the will of the people. if they were prepared for him texting the chief of staff, the president and other people about doing all these things, never in my wildest dreams would i have imagined that a member
on the ethics committee referrals, have you reached out to the ethics committee about what their processes is going to be, what happens come january, republicans are in charge and then for these other members of congress should they to not be held accountable after the civil war, members of the united states senate who sided with confederacy they were expelled by their colleagues? >> well, yes, obviously that was called the ku klux klan act of 1871 where individuals came forward and...
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the ethics committee will have to think long and hard about what to do because what they're doing is creating a precedent going forward for how members of congress should respond in the event that they are subpoenaed by congress itself. and especially in an egregious case like this, dealing with a violent insurrection against the government itself. >> let me read a little bit from the executive summary. this seems to be a very salient point. if donald trump and the associates who assisted him in an effort to overturn the outcome of the 2020 election are not held accountable under the law, their behavior may become a precedent, an invitation to danger. failure to hold them accountable may lead to future unlawful efforts to overturn our elections threatening the security and viability of our republic. if the justice department chooses not to act on these referrals and donald trump is the nominee of the republican party again, one must presume the vast majority of republicans will support him again. what is your fear, that he will just do this again if the justice department doesn't do
the ethics committee will have to think long and hard about what to do because what they're doing is creating a precedent going forward for how members of congress should respond in the event that they are subpoenaed by congress itself. and especially in an egregious case like this, dealing with a violent insurrection against the government itself. >> let me read a little bit from the executive summary. this seems to be a very salient point. if donald trump and the associates who assisted...
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well as referrals to the ethics committee, matters that have to be adjudicated by the house and by congress? rep. raskin: i'm not certain -- >> what is the thinking behind waiting until the very end of the democrats' house majority of leasing matters that have to be dealt with by the house? rep. raskin: well, we have obviously been in the process of collecting all the evidence that we can come and we have been moving as quickly as possible. the legislative recommendations we set forward come about a dozen of them are things that can be undertaken by this congress during the lame-duck period and by future congresses, and we will see that we do take action. >> in the executive summary you mentioned that there are a number of instances you have found where the former president tried to influence witnesses. how many instances could do you find of that in terms have making phone calls to witnesses or trying to influence their testimony? rep. raskin: i don't own exact number, but the ones we are aware of, at least the ones i am aware of, appear in the executive summary. they are there. >> does th
well as referrals to the ethics committee, matters that have to be adjudicated by the house and by congress? rep. raskin: i'm not certain -- >> what is the thinking behind waiting until the very end of the democrats' house majority of leasing matters that have to be dealt with by the house? rep. raskin: well, we have obviously been in the process of collecting all the evidence that we can come and we have been moving as quickly as possible. the legislative recommendations we set forward...
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legislative recommendations as well as referrals to the ethics committee? >> what were you -- >> what is the thinking behind waiting to the very end? >> well, we have obviously been in the process of collecting all the evidence we can and moving as quickly as possible. the legislative recommendations we step forward, a dozen of them's are things that could be undertaken by this congress during the lame-duck period. we are to sermon -- we are determined to see we take action on them. >> you mentioned there are a number of instances that you have found where the former president tried to influence witnesses. how many instances did you find of that in terms of him making phone calls or trying to influence the subcommittee? >> i do not know an exact number but the ones we are aware of at least the ones i am aware of, appear in the summary. so they are there and you can find those. >> -- provide raw materials to the department of justice and briefs special counsel about what you found -- >> we adopted the motion to have the chairman send this over so i imagine i
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to the house ethics committee, for bucking their subpoenas from the committee. these favored developments make tomorrows already must-see final public committee hearing a truly blockbuster event. it will be a culmination of 18 months of investigating, 1200 plus witnesses, witness interviews, and depositions, over 1 million pages of records, and more than 100 subpoenas. but now, we have to remember here, all the committee can do tomorrow is lay out their case to the public. the committees criminal referrals technically carry no official legal weight. it's up to the doj to decide whether or not to charge trump or anyone else who might be referred by the committee. joining me now is nbc's aly battalion to walk us through this breaking news. ali, it's on you. what can you tell us? >> well michael, my colleagues kate sanchez and haley talbot and i were all outside the committees meeting today as they huddled here behind closed doors on the capitol complex. but we are able to hear the rehearsal they were doing for tomorrow, including where they laid out the charges th
to the house ethics committee, for bucking their subpoenas from the committee. these favored developments make tomorrows already must-see final public committee hearing a truly blockbuster event. it will be a culmination of 18 months of investigating, 1200 plus witnesses, witness interviews, and depositions, over 1 million pages of records, and more than 100 subpoenas. but now, we have to remember here, all the committee can do tomorrow is lay out their case to the public. the committees...
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they wanted to refine the rules for the ethics committee. paul ryan voted against him. based on his advice, i voted against it. the majority of the republicans voted to modify those roles. there was an uproar the next day , president trump said it was the wrong thing to do on the first day. we revised it back at the end of the day. i voted against the rules changes and so did paul ryan. host: let's hear from the republican line from virginia. caller: thank you for taking my call again, c-span you're a national treasure. i served in the military since 1987. i am coming up on 30 years. i am a senior chief warrant officer. our retention right now is being devastated by all of the politicization of the military. i watched at the reagan institute, they talked about why is that? the reason is, it has been so politicized that they no longer want to protect the government we have right now. they are still loyal to the constitution but the political leaders, i heard the congressman say i talk to all of the soldiers, sailors and marines and i am not hearing that they have a probl
they wanted to refine the rules for the ethics committee. paul ryan voted against him. based on his advice, i voted against it. the majority of the republicans voted to modify those roles. there was an uproar the next day , president trump said it was the wrong thing to do on the first day. we revised it back at the end of the day. i voted against the rules changes and so did paul ryan. host: let's hear from the republican line from virginia. caller: thank you for taking my call again, c-span...
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the house has its own ethics regulators, the house ethics committee, they could look into these members of congress and decide what to do when congress subpoenas their own. and there isn't a response there. but this really is a big question of how do you leave it at the end of this monumental historic investigation and the way they leave it could become the path forward for other congressional investigations where members of congress are subpoenaed as well. so there is a lot at stake here. with what this committee decides to do with these five members of congress who doesn't respond to their subpoenas so we'll have to wait and see how that plays out with the referrals and with the vote today. >>> kale lynn pollance, thank you very much. and joining us, kirsten powers and analyst elliott williams, also back with us. elliott, if we can, let's set aside what this is not. it is not binding for the justice department to follow through with its own indictments. it will make its own judgment. to what it is. and this is a remarkable moment. a bipartisan committee, accusing a former president of
the house has its own ethics regulators, the house ethics committee, they could look into these members of congress and decide what to do when congress subpoenas their own. and there isn't a response there. but this really is a big question of how do you leave it at the end of this monumental historic investigation and the way they leave it could become the path forward for other congressional investigations where members of congress are subpoenaed as well. so there is a lot at stake here. with...
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the question is what is the ethics committee going to do. he did not note that he heard anything new from the ethics committee, he feels that they should be held accountable but now the ball is in their court. >> an ethics violation, symone, it does not do much. before we go to break, katie, give us a timeline update. i don't know we do not know anything firm, but we knew there is a deadline to this report. now that we move to the department of justice phase, any insight there into where we are going? >> they're gonna be scouring transcripts first and foremost, and they're going to be wanting compare again what people told the grand jury versus what people told, congress and they're going to want to see if there is anything that could be used against their own case. keep in mind, jack smith is a very skilled prosecutor and he moves really fast. he is very thorough, and one of the ways that he operates is constantly thinking what information the defense has. what information do we have that helps the defense. we have not seen the full transcr
the question is what is the ethics committee going to do. he did not note that he heard anything new from the ethics committee, he feels that they should be held accountable but now the ball is in their court. >> an ethics violation, symone, it does not do much. before we go to break, katie, give us a timeline update. i don't know we do not know anything firm, but we knew there is a deadline to this report. now that we move to the department of justice phase, any insight there into where...
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the question is what is the ethics committee going to do. he did not note that he heard anything new from the ethics committee, he feels that they should be held accountable but now the ball is in their court. >> an ethics violation, symone, it does not do much. before we go to break, katie, give us a timeline update. i don't know we do not know anything firm, but we knew there is a deadline to this report. now that we move to the department of justice phase, any insight there into where we are going? >> they're gonna be scouring transcripts first and foremost, and they're going to be wanting compare again what people told the grand jury versus what people told, congress and they're going to want to see if there is anything that could be used against their own case. keep in mind, jack smith is a very skilled prosecutor and he moves really fast. he is very thorough, and one of the ways that he operates is constantly thinking what information the defense has. what information do we have that helps the defense. we have not seen the full transcr
the question is what is the ethics committee going to do. he did not note that he heard anything new from the ethics committee, he feels that they should be held accountable but now the ball is in their court. >> an ethics violation, symone, it does not do much. before we go to break, katie, give us a timeline update. i don't know we do not know anything firm, but we knew there is a deadline to this report. now that we move to the department of justice phase, any insight there into where...
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the ethics committee, if the january 6th committee does make ethics referrals, that committee will be looking into and perhaps they will be reprimanding in some way, shape or form these republicans for not complying with their own branch of governments requests or -- not just requests, demand because it was a subpoena. >> that's the law. you're supposed to comply with that subpoena. stand by. just ahead, we'll get another check of the very dangerous situation unfolding right now in louisiana as a new tornado is unleashed by a massive, massive winter storm that's going on in huge parts of the country. p plus, a landmark event at the white house as president biden signs legislation protecting same-sex marriage into law. don lemon was there. he'll join us next. if you have a "before" bath, now's the time too call bath fitter to get a beautiful "afteter." with our unique tub over tub process, there's no mess or stress. spend smart on a beautiful new bath done right, backed by a lifetime warranty. join over 2 million happy customers who know: it just fits. bath fitter visit bathfitter.com
the ethics committee, if the january 6th committee does make ethics referrals, that committee will be looking into and perhaps they will be reprimanding in some way, shape or form these republicans for not complying with their own branch of governments requests or -- not just requests, demand because it was a subpoena. >> that's the law. you're supposed to comply with that subpoena. stand by. just ahead, we'll get another check of the very dangerous situation unfolding right now in...
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the ethics committee must start investigating immediately. you're the congressman from the bronx, he is the congressman elect from long island. why is this is this of such concern to you? >> it's of concern to me because george santos is a pathological liar. was defrauded the voters of new york state. i mean, he has lied systematically on nearly every aspect of his life. his family heritage, his educational background, his employment history, his ties to historical events like the holocaust or the -- pulse club massacre. and the breadth and depth of his deception is simply staggering, it's unprecedented. even worse than his lying, it is possible lawbreaking. he should be the target of multiple investigations, the house ethics committee should investigate him for his likely falsification of official federal documents. we have to send a clear message that if you defraud the voters, you're going to be held accountable. you're going to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. >> robert, i you are the democratic nominee running against geor
the ethics committee must start investigating immediately. you're the congressman from the bronx, he is the congressman elect from long island. why is this is this of such concern to you? >> it's of concern to me because george santos is a pathological liar. was defrauded the voters of new york state. i mean, he has lied systematically on nearly every aspect of his life. his family heritage, his educational background, his employment history, his ties to historical events like the...
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committee, which, you know, i mean, ethics committee usually a fairly bipartisan committee, also a pretty weak committee in general in terms of it doles out justice on capitol hill, that will under the control of republicans because they'll be running the house of representatives. it's like the weakest beer you could imagine. i said yesterday the party of the free-range insurrectionists are in charge of the house. not only are they escaping accountability but in some cases they're being rewarded for their behavior. one of the most disappointing things about this. i don't know what else one could have done apart from issuing criminal referrals on some of these people, but man, it seems like the committee basically threw up its hands and said there's not much we can do here, fellow congress people. it doesn't seem good enough to me. >> for more, congressional reporter for axios, alayna treene. what has been the response from the four republicans who were referred to the ethics committee? >> well, mika, they are keeping to the line they've had since the start of this select committee, that t
committee, which, you know, i mean, ethics committee usually a fairly bipartisan committee, also a pretty weak committee in general in terms of it doles out justice on capitol hill, that will under the control of republicans because they'll be running the house of representatives. it's like the weakest beer you could imagine. i said yesterday the party of the free-range insurrectionists are in charge of the house. not only are they escaping accountability but in some cases they're being...
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also referred the following house republicans to the ethics committee. the gop leader, kevin mccarthy who is slated to take over the republican party if he can get that speaker shifts. jim jordan the republican from ohio, andy biggs from arizona and scott perry from pennsylvania. the ethics committee as some of you may know, is evenly divided between republicans and democrats. the only committee with that's break down. the 117 congress is in its final days so this being referred to the ethics committee will be referred to a committee that is led by republicans and the 118th congress. the january 6 committee is also in its final days. it will be dissolved when the 117th congress adjourns. larry and st. louis, missouri. let there from you. host: let's hear from you. caller: let's start with the fact that the democrats -- i am republican and democrat but they started saying it is going to take days and they are telling you this ahead of the election. then it actually does take over 10 days in some of these states. that is why those people went down there to
also referred the following house republicans to the ethics committee. the gop leader, kevin mccarthy who is slated to take over the republican party if he can get that speaker shifts. jim jordan the republican from ohio, andy biggs from arizona and scott perry from pennsylvania. the ethics committee as some of you may know, is evenly divided between republicans and democrats. the only committee with that's break down. the 117 congress is in its final days so this being referred to the ethics...
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trump, as a partisan sham one republican who the committee referred t the ethics committee for defying its subpoena calling it kangaroo court desperate for revenge against mr. trump. a response mr. trump echoed in a radio interview conducted during the hearing. >> we have all democrats and republicans in very poor standing, two of them i mean, the whole thing, it's a kangaroo court. what can i say >> reporter: the committee also referring trump lawyer john eastman to the doj on charges of obstruction of an official proceeding and conspiracy to defraud the united states eastman responding with a statement calling the committee's work, quote, pretend prosecutors designed to create political advantage for the democratic party the committee plans to release their full report on wednesday. today releasing a 154-page summary of their findings, describing the scheme to overturn the election results, they outlined over ten public hearings. >> garrett, we should note, there are limits on the impact of the committee's other referrals, too >> reporter: that's right. the committee referred four re
trump, as a partisan sham one republican who the committee referred t the ethics committee for defying its subpoena calling it kangaroo court desperate for revenge against mr. trump. a response mr. trump echoed in a radio interview conducted during the hearing. >> we have all democrats and republicans in very poor standing, two of them i mean, the whole thing, it's a kangaroo court. what can i say >> reporter: the committee also referring trump lawyer john eastman to the doj on...
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but we know that lows lawmakers, or some of them, will be referred to by the house ethics committee. it's notable, though, the house ethics committee is evenly divided between republicans number crafts. time for this congresses running out. that's likely pretty toothless in terms of being punishment for ignoring these subpoenas in the first place. the other piece that's important to remember, which i know you know so well, is that even though this committee does these criminal referrals, whether it's against trump or anyone else they want to add into the mix, they're not but -- they don't carry legal weight. it doesn't mean that just before congress sons this referral, doj has to act. in fact, doj remains an independent entity and will make its decision at such. they have their own investigations happening concurrently right now. that's another thing that's gonna be factored into the process. but again, monday's meeting is a precursor. they'll lay out the public case -- things that we've already heard from the committee over the course of the summer, and the areas we've already heard
but we know that lows lawmakers, or some of them, will be referred to by the house ethics committee. it's notable, though, the house ethics committee is evenly divided between republicans number crafts. time for this congresses running out. that's likely pretty toothless in terms of being punishment for ignoring these subpoenas in the first place. the other piece that's important to remember, which i know you know so well, is that even though this committee does these criminal referrals,...
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we've also been hearing that it was likely that the committee would refer to the house ethics committee. the republican members of congress who were subpoenaed. but did not show up for their -- to testify. i just want to point out, of those five, one of them, mo brooks, is no longer going to be a member of congress. so, he will not come under that jurisdiction if they decide to refer to the house ethics committee. >> it's quite a thing for a member of congress to avoid, ignore a congressional subpoena. pamela brown, just moments away. what are you looking for? >> well, on that front, absolutely looking for what they do with their fellow members of congress, republicans who defied the subpoena. and also, i mean, look, they have made some sweeping claims. they have put forward witnesses in evidence in their hearings. but what other evidence are they going to put forward to essentially walk the talk. particularly as it pertains to these criminal referrals about the former president. look, as we've been discussing, one of the charges of insurrection, it has been rarely used. it's a high bar
we've also been hearing that it was likely that the committee would refer to the house ethics committee. the republican members of congress who were subpoenaed. but did not show up for their -- to testify. i just want to point out, of those five, one of them, mo brooks, is no longer going to be a member of congress. so, he will not come under that jurisdiction if they decide to refer to the house ethics committee. >> it's quite a thing for a member of congress to avoid, ignore a...
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committee, but th bipartisan office of congressional ethics you know, dan goldman, who i also an incoming congressman this time, a democrat, here in new york city has said h believed there was enoug material for federal prosecutors to investigate we have no idea whether that i something they are exploring o not. but there are certainly call for investigations to all. side >> let me talk to you about your expertise, since yo are covering new york. you did have papers in lon island, local papers that we'r looking into this. but it was the new york time that brought all this national attention. i wonder if it's a surprise, with the conversations you having with your colleagues, about the fact that george santos is not granting you o answering your questions >> sure, i think grad -- grace ashford and i broke th first story. we would've loved to have th first chance to talk to mr santos we reached out and several times, never got unanswered. we are told to his representatives that he was no interest in speaking with us and i can't speak to why or wh not that might not be. it's nice to have bee
committee, but th bipartisan office of congressional ethics you know, dan goldman, who i also an incoming congressman this time, a democrat, here in new york city has said h believed there was enoug material for federal prosecutors to investigate we have no idea whether that i something they are exploring o not. but there are certainly call for investigations to all. side >> let me talk to you about your expertise, since yo are covering new york. you did have papers in lon island, local...
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doesn't take much to ethics committee to begin a probe into a sitting member of congress and the ethics committee, equal number of republicans and democrats serve on that panel. someone will ask the ethics committee to look into this and they'll begin an investigation. once that happens, almost a black hole. ethics committee does not publicly talk about their investigations until they are concluded, and often times these investigations amount to -- essential, even something less than that. so it is likely george santos will be a sitting member of congress and unless there is some sort of prosecutorial investigation into particularly his finance either the new york attorney general's office or the u.s. attorney in that part of new york, it's unlikely he'll see real repercussions for basically lying about just about every aspect of his biography. >> isn't that extraordinary? in fact, it is, ryan. i thank you and bring in two other folks to talk more about it. bringing back victoria and david. appeared on fox news last night. listen to this exchange. >> do you have no shame? do you have no
doesn't take much to ethics committee to begin a probe into a sitting member of congress and the ethics committee, equal number of republicans and democrats serve on that panel. someone will ask the ethics committee to look into this and they'll begin an investigation. once that happens, almost a black hole. ethics committee does not publicly talk about their investigations until they are concluded, and often times these investigations amount to -- essential, even something less than that. so...
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and that is to refer him to the ethics committee. and at the same time, either there are a number of investigations going on. and did he violate some law in the process of this. look, he is not going to be there for long. there is going to be so much pressure on him to leave, and i think at some point he will leave. i hope when that happens, he is able to leave cleanly and hopefully not harm himself in the process. when you think about all the things he's saying, it's a very disturbed individual. very disturbed man. and i think we have to keep that in mind. that doesn't mean we don't go forward. we have to go forward in that ethics committee, which is a bipartisan committee, if they can once act in a bipartisan way, could be able to resolve this, you know, inside the house of representatives. >> you mention the investigation. we know santos is facing investigations into his finances. i'm told by a source familiar that doj is looking into that. also looking into his fabrications. in your view, where is he most vulnerable legally for f
and that is to refer him to the ethics committee. and at the same time, either there are a number of investigations going on. and did he violate some law in the process of this. look, he is not going to be there for long. there is going to be so much pressure on him to leave, and i think at some point he will leave. i hope when that happens, he is able to leave cleanly and hopefully not harm himself in the process. when you think about all the things he's saying, it's a very disturbed...
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host: one of the aspects will be referring to the house ethics committee. a subpoena for lawmakers sent to the ethics committee for investigation by the january 6 committee, including kevin mccarthy of california and representative jim jordan in ohio, and andy biggs of arizona. we will hear from willie in annapolis, maryland, supporter of criminal referrals. you are next, go ahead. caller: yes i definitely support the way the committee handled this. if the president is punished, how will he be punished? sent to regular prison? if they do, i wonder how much taxpayers will pay for his separate quarters. will he be going to a country club? yes, i support this. i don't know what kool-aid the last caller was talking about about black lives. i feel offended by that. black lives matter did not attack the capitol like these people did in these people really kind of scare me because i don't know what else they are doing. i think about the grid in north alina. who knows what these nuts may do . yes, i think it was perfect what they did. host: again we will spend the
host: one of the aspects will be referring to the house ethics committee. a subpoena for lawmakers sent to the ethics committee for investigation by the january 6 committee, including kevin mccarthy of california and representative jim jordan in ohio, and andy biggs of arizona. we will hear from willie in annapolis, maryland, supporter of criminal referrals. you are next, go ahead. caller: yes i definitely support the way the committee handled this. if the president is punished, how will he be...
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the committee did make for ethics committee recommendations on that front 44, relatively, senior members of congress on the republican side. investigators also, though, suggested the doj can secure testimony from those republican members of congress. testimony that might produce sufficient evidence to charge trump, not only with crimes they are recommending he be charged with, but maybe even with two additional crimes, specifically the report released by investigators today said there are two additional felonies that doj should consider when looking at trump. they say they should consider seditious conspiracy, and conspiracy to prevent an officer of the united states from discharging his or her duties. investigators say doj through its investigative tools that exceed those of the committee may have evidence sufficient to prosecute president trump under those two additional statutes. the investigators helpfully suggest that trump's former white house chief of staff may, quote, have specific evidence relevant to such charges. so again, the investigators here are making specific criminal re
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the ethics committee conviction. in this case, i think it's unlikely that the members will punch each other. but it's certainly possible. i think the key here is this evidence becoming public for various reasons. we've seen the hearings. we will see a report that makes a lot of the evidence public. this goes to the ethics committee, it makes findings -- ultimately, that's what a lot of this is about. to make sure that all the information, or as much as possible that the committee has ascertained over time, actually makes it into public hands so people can make judgments for themselves about who did what and, you know, who was right and wrong. >> joyce, as you think about the and then at this report, the summation of all the findings of the january 6th committee, what are the things you want to hear in that report? what do you hope the committee is focusing on? >> well, it's been apparent from the very beginning that the committee is focused on donald trump. there is been a straight line tying him to responsibility fo
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ethics committee. and what to expect when the republicans taic control of the house next year. a group of house republicans plan to release their own some 100-page counter report later this week. >>> all right, we know it's coming to donald trump. we know what's coming to john eastman and we're going to find out potentially more about others who might have been involved. but beyond that, this committee has really shown how to conduct a successful, congressional investigation. clearly having an effect on the 2022 midterms. clearly having an effect on donald trump's approval ratings right now. so whether or not this makes a difference to the doj, it has already left its mark on the american psyche and american electorate. andrea. >> and katy, what we're going to get, we're going to get today a very lengthy report with a lot of testimony. testimony we have not seen, some was public. now more of it willing made public today. and a summary of the report. the report we expect on wednesday, but this was final
ethics committee. and what to expect when the republicans taic control of the house next year. a group of house republicans plan to release their own some 100-page counter report later this week. >>> all right, we know it's coming to donald trump. we know what's coming to john eastman and we're going to find out potentially more about others who might have been involved. but beyond that, this committee has really shown how to conduct a successful, congressional investigation. clearly...
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nbc is also reporting committee plans to refer for gop lawmakers to the house ethics committee. we do not know which for. we do know a total of five republicans defy the committees subpoenas, secretary castro is back with us and joining us -- political investigations reporter for the guardian, hugo. my question for you, why you think are what you are hearing in reporting about the committee's decision to go with congressional discipline right, to choose to handle this through the ethics committee. >> yeah. i think part of this is because the criminal -- you know, when the house basically votes on a criminal contempt measure like it did with steve bannon and mark bellows another kind of trump white house aides and trump advisers, basically the house will vote and then the house counsel, in this team doug letter, wilson the referral over to the justice department. the problem with coming into a new congress and coming into a new majority is that the house cancel changes and kind of according to congressional experts we have spoken to, even if committee were to make a referral now,
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. >> the effect of sending this referral to the ethics committee is for it to die in that committee. why do that? >> well, we'll see. i mean, the ethics committee is evenly divided, five democrats, five republicans. and they are supposed to act without regard to party. and when i chaired the committee, that's what we did. i would like to believe that pattern which is in the house rules will be followed. if it isn't, shame on them. >> what do you think of committee's decision to refer them to the ethics committee rather than for criminal prosecution? >> well, i'm not sure the committee had many better options, paula. you know, of the other subpoena defiers, two of them were prosecuted. that's steve bannon and peter navaro. but mark meadows and former white house official dan scavino were referred to doj, no prosecution. the now it's wrong of kevin mccarthy and the others to defy lawful subpoenas from the house. we'll see if the committee takes action. they probably won't. there is one other wild card here which is we know that one of these members who was referred, scott perry, had hi
. >> the effect of sending this referral to the ethics committee is for it to die in that committee. why do that? >> well, we'll see. i mean, the ethics committee is evenly divided, five democrats, five republicans. and they are supposed to act without regard to party. and when i chaired the committee, that's what we did. i would like to believe that pattern which is in the house rules will be followed. if it isn't, shame on them. >> what do you think of committee's decision...
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the committee, the ethics committee to decide to take up the matter or dismiss it. in this case the panel decided to extend the matter. not great for aoc when you find out you are under investigation for possible ethics violation. >> todd: i love how she holds herself there as the woman of the people and a question whether a major, big large corporation paid for that 30k ticket. >> carley: a lot of questions, twitter ceo elon musk reveals to jack dorsey the twitter files he's been releasing were concealed from top management. he is suggesting the files were completely erased. the two responding to each other on twitter with former ceo dorsey questioning why all the twitter files are released at once to which musk rebuild, "the most important data was hidden from dorsey too and some may have been deleted, but everything be fined will be released." that news comes a day after musk fired twitter general counsel james baker for his possible role in suppressing information. one of the things we learned from the original twitter files is that jack dorsey really kept in th
the committee, the ethics committee to decide to take up the matter or dismiss it. in this case the panel decided to extend the matter. not great for aoc when you find out you are under investigation for possible ethics violation. >> todd: i love how she holds herself there as the woman of the people and a question whether a major, big large corporation paid for that 30k ticket. >> carley: a lot of questions, twitter ceo elon musk reveals to jack dorsey the twitter files he's been...
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one avenue the committee could go down is referring them to the house ethics committee, keeping this issue within the capital and not sending it to another agency but just sending it to a congressional committee. that is a possibility that is on the table. adam schiff said yesterday that is one of the avenues they were looking at to deal with the five lawmakers. we will find out what happens today. host: the ethics committee would be one of the few committees that still would be bipartisan going into the republican dominated house. guest: that is an interesting prospect here to see if the committee will want to further look into these allegations. it will be within a republican majority in the house, which could set up roadblocks in terms of the entire climate within the capital for the ethics committee, but it would be a significant step, these five lawmakers got one of whom is running for speaker and could be speaker the next congress cannot be referred to the ethics committee for such a public thing and when i say public i mean in the public spotlight and known to the american peo
one avenue the committee could go down is referring them to the house ethics committee, keeping this issue within the capital and not sending it to another agency but just sending it to a congressional committee. that is a possibility that is on the table. adam schiff said yesterday that is one of the avenues they were looking at to deal with the five lawmakers. we will find out what happens today. host: the ethics committee would be one of the few committees that still would be bipartisan...
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he should be investigated by the house ethics committee. he should be looked into, but with the incoming republican majority, is there any political will to do all the things we're talking about here? will anything happen to george santos as a result of the lies he's told? >> i have no confidence that the republican house majority is going to hold him accountable, but george santos is likely to be the target of multiple investigations. the republican district attorney from nassau county who opened a criminal investigation into george santos so that a republican d.a. would investigate george santos is a sign of more investigates to come. and the most important question is where did all the money come from? you know as late as may of 2020 he reported a salary of $55,000. then in 2021 and 2022 he reported earning somewhere between 3.5 and $11.5 million. that is an astronomical growth in his personal wealth that he's not sufficiently explained. he claims the money comes from the organization which has been shrouded in secrecy. there's no public
he should be investigated by the house ethics committee. he should be looked into, but with the incoming republican majority, is there any political will to do all the things we're talking about here? will anything happen to george santos as a result of the lies he's told? >> i have no confidence that the republican house majority is going to hold him accountable, but george santos is likely to be the target of multiple investigations. the republican district attorney from nassau county...
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the reason that's intriguing, the ethics committee can start next year, it's a bipartisan committee, under republican control, and to see what they did. republicans next year have said we are going to call on anthony fauci, call in alejandro mayorkas, we want them to comply with subpoenas and these members, including mccarthy and jim jordan, central to the investigations, never complied with those subpoenas. and you have even some republican members of congress, nancy mace, indicated at one point she thought republicans were basically talking out of both sides of their mouth, not complying with those subpoenas yet saying we are going to subpoena everybody from the biden administration next year. this report will be out later next year. the house of representatives is coming back into session later this week, the senate will be in session, a lot of reaction here on capitol hill. but a lot of this was thing, we new they were going to sends down the referrals on former president trump and the most significant thing here, something that liz cheney, the outgoing congresswoman from wyoming
the reason that's intriguing, the ethics committee can start next year, it's a bipartisan committee, under republican control, and to see what they did. republicans next year have said we are going to call on anthony fauci, call in alejandro mayorkas, we want them to comply with subpoenas and these members, including mccarthy and jim jordan, central to the investigations, never complied with those subpoenas. and you have even some republican members of congress, nancy mace, indicated at one...
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u has suggested that an independent ethics advisory ethics committee has to be extended to all institutions of the european union. and so far it's been, you know, part of the oversight of the european commission, but she has already proposed that the european parliament should be included within that, you know, within the oversight of, you know, that ethics committee which would be independent, which would, you know, hopefully prevent such scandals from occurring again in the future. thank you for that. i abraham in brussels. let's take a look at some all stories that making headlines around the world. now. taliban officials say 3 assailants were killed by police after the storm, the hotel, and the african capital capital. more than 20 people were wounded in the attack. hotels popular with chinese visitors on business trips. china, shutting down a major coven, 19 tracking app. as it is, pandemic restrictions police will. people will be able to travel again without their movements being recorded. that's been growing criticism of the tough measures that led to widespread protests across the c
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it's going to go immediately to the ethics committee. i think people would look at mccarthy in a much different way. i don't expect that will happen. you never know, wolf. things are so unbelievably unexpected today. you never know what would happen. but he ought to be condemning this. the republican party ought to be condemning this. this just not acceptable. and it brings -- it really damages the integrity, whatever is left of the united states house of representatives, a place i served for 18 years. and i'm saddened by the damage it could cause, further damage it could cause to that house. >> good point, governor kasich. thank you so much for joining us. appreciate it very much. >>> and this is just coming in to "the situation room" right now. president biden says he has signed the massive $1.7 trillion government spending bill approved by congress. it includes funding for critical government operations and emergency assistance to ukraine among many, many other things. in a tweet, the president is touting the bipartisan legislation as
it's going to go immediately to the ethics committee. i think people would look at mccarthy in a much different way. i don't expect that will happen. you never know, wolf. things are so unbelievably unexpected today. you never know what would happen. but he ought to be condemning this. the republican party ought to be condemning this. this just not acceptable. and it brings -- it really damages the integrity, whatever is left of the united states house of representatives, a place i served for...
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we're certainly trying to get information about what happened not just with the house ethics committee but the bipartisan congressional ethics. dan goldman, incoming congressman in new york city, has said there's enough material for federal prosecutors to investigate. there's certainly calls for investigations from all sides. >> let me talk to you about your expertise which you are covering new york. you did have papers in long island, local papers looking into this, but it was "the new york times" that brought this out. i wonder what the conversations are with your colleagues about the fact that george santos is not granting interviews or answering your questions. >> sure, grace ashford and i reached out to mr. santos, never got an answer, we were told he was not interested in speaking to us. i can't speak to why that why that might be. it's interesting, that he would tell a story, he's given four interviews that i can count to local news and fox outlets. it's good to have his voice on the record. there's questions we would like to ask. >> you brought me perfectly to that. let's talk
we're certainly trying to get information about what happened not just with the house ethics committee but the bipartisan congressional ethics. dan goldman, incoming congressman in new york city, has said there's enough material for federal prosecutors to investigate. there's certainly calls for investigations from all sides. >> let me talk to you about your expertise which you are covering new york. you did have papers in long island, local papers looking into this, but it was "the...
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the house ethics committee says they're investigating democrat congresswoman and amateur tiktok star alexandria ocasio-cortez. it comes as the congresswoman is facing formal complaints over her flashy met gala appearance. oh, yeah, remember that? let's tax the rich, everybody. the complaint says she violated house rules by accepting free tickets to the gala worth at least $35,000 each. aoc says she did nothing wrong, but even if she did, can anyone in congress hold her accountable? we've got a stunning party panel to break it all down including fox nation host abby hornacek. we've also got host of the guy benson radio show, also the political editor of townhall.com, guy benson. and she is the cohost for gutfeld, katherine timpf of is back. welcome, everybody. so is she going to the slammer for this? [laughter] that's great, lock her up. >> yeah, lock her up. i don't know why she's not already in prison. this is an outrage. watch, somebody's going to watch just that and then clip it, and everyone's going to hate me. [laughter] well, a lot of them already do. but, no, we'll see what ha
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but then they're also going to be be ethics referrals to the house ethics committee for four of the congressmen who defied their subpoenas, republicans kevin mccarthy, scott perry, jim jordan, mo brooks and andy biggs were the five subpoenaed republican lawmakers who did not supply with the subpoena request. that was a topic of conversation we overheard the committee talking about yesterday and they're going to refer four of them. what's difficult about that is we know there's only so many days left in this congress. the ethics committee is evenly divided between republicans and democrats. they would have to vote to keep this on the docket for next congress so it doesn't seem those are going to go anywhere. nevertheless, that's how this committee will be publishing those five subpoenas. we learned a lot yesterday and they'll make a lot of that official today ahead of the final report on wednesday, mika. >> certainly those republican congressmen you mentioned, we'll see how once that goes. but once the gop takes control, that probably comes and goes. but you underlined the historic nature of thi
but then they're also going to be be ethics referrals to the house ethics committee for four of the congressmen who defied their subpoenas, republicans kevin mccarthy, scott perry, jim jordan, mo brooks and andy biggs were the five subpoenaed republican lawmakers who did not supply with the subpoena request. that was a topic of conversation we overheard the committee talking about yesterday and they're going to refer four of them. what's difficult about that is we know there's only so many days...
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it's within the house ethics committee's purview certainly to look at a financial disclosure statement or a series of them and determine if a crime has been committed. so the very least the house ethics committee when congress reconvenes next week should look at that and money and other matters certainly they could expand as well. but we now hear there are law enforcement authorities in new york stit that are looking into some of his lies and perhaps the justice department might be doing this as well. they, too, could prosecute someone for lying on a financial disclosure form. that's a crime against the federal government. so there's a lot of people out there who have the power and the authority to investigate george santos and his lies and perhaps what he has done or not done involving reporting his income. so i hope, you know, that they do this because, you know, there's certainly enough smoke here to suggest a fire of some size. we just don't know what the fire is, and we do know -- we do know that george santos has not been forthcoming. he's lied about or he's given inconsistent ac
it's within the house ethics committee's purview certainly to look at a financial disclosure statement or a series of them and determine if a crime has been committed. so the very least the house ethics committee when congress reconvenes next week should look at that and money and other matters certainly they could expand as well. but we now hear there are law enforcement authorities in new york stit that are looking into some of his lies and perhaps the justice department might be doing this...
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them to the house ethics committee really it doesn't mean very much, jose because that ethics committee is evenly divided between republicans and democrats and because there's just so few days left in this congress. that committee is unlikely to act. but nevertheless it does look how the committee will deal with those when they defy their subpoenas in the first place. >> how seriously could the justice department take these referrals? >> so, jose, doj is hardwired to ignore external efforts to influence their work. any prosecutive decisions will be made solely paved on the evidence that they've accumulated during their investigation. that will look a little bit different than what we have heard from the committee during hearings because there are rules involving admissibility in federal court. for instance, hearsay isn't invisible. doj will have to make that raw calculation whether they can prove any or all of these charges. there's a possibility they could look at other charges as well. but where the committee's work has been highly influential is seeming to be in many ways ahead of do
them to the house ethics committee really it doesn't mean very much, jose because that ethics committee is evenly divided between republicans and democrats and because there's just so few days left in this congress. that committee is unlikely to act. but nevertheless it does look how the committee will deal with those when they defy their subpoenas in the first place. >> how seriously could the justice department take these referrals? >> so, jose, doj is hardwired to ignore external...