we also heard as you mention, from john longman, a post office investigator investigations of course being a big part of the scandal and he was the investigator in the case of seema misra who was sent to prison when she was eight weeks pregnant. he said, he, in hindsight, would have done things differently, even i have at the time, he had been told the horizon system was robust. let's take a listen even though, by the way, seema misra did not quite accept that apology. it was not disclosed in seema misra's— it was not disclosed in seema misra's trial, the receipts of a mismatch_ misra's trial, the receipts of a mismatch bug was not disclosed in seema _ mismatch bug was not disclosed in seema misra's trial, without deliberate?— seema misra's trial, without deliberate? ., ., , ., deliberate? not on my part, no because i— deliberate? not on my part, no because i do — deliberate? not on my part, no because i do not _ deliberate? not on my part, no because i do not think - deliberate? not on my part, no because i do not think i - deliberate? not on my part, no because i do not thi