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cipollone thought that mr. meadows was indeed pushing this along with the president. >> and we understand that you also spoke to mr. cipollone on the morning of the sixth as you are about to go to the rally. mr. cipollone said something to you like, make sure the movement to the capitol does not happen. is that? correct >> that's correct. i saw mr. cipollone right before i walked out that morning and mr. cipollone said something to the fact that, please make sure we don't go to the capitol capacity, keep in touch with me. we are gonna get charged with every crime imaginable if that happens. >> and do you remember which crimes mr. cipollone was concerned with? ? >> in the days leading up to the sixth, we had conversations about potentially obstructing justice or defrauding the electoral count. >> so, this friday the january six investigation will get to ask pat cipollone about those conversations. did they happen the way cassidy hutchison said they did? ? and when we refer to being charged with every crime imagi
cipollone thought that mr. meadows was indeed pushing this along with the president. >> and we understand that you also spoke to mr. cipollone on the morning of the sixth as you are about to go to the rally. mr. cipollone said something to you like, make sure the movement to the capitol does not happen. is that? correct >> that's correct. i saw mr. cipollone right before i walked out that morning and mr. cipollone said something to the fact that, please make sure we don't go to the...
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cipollone could testify about. unfortunately, for the committee, mr. cipollone held the cards and he could testify and make the rules and presumably, it sounds like through congressman lofgren that they did get some productive stuff that they only got what mr. cipollone wanted to give them. >> do you think that has any kind of impact on a potential investigation by the justice department? >> well, you know, that would be -- that is kind of mr. cipollone testifying under a entirely different rubric, right? if the dust apartment is interested in talking to him in pursuit of criminal investigation that they might be conducting either now or in the future, they would essentially have to go through the same process. they might require that they give him a subpoena and out of a quote unquote friendly subpoena and then they would have to grapple with these same issues. the differences that they would likely have the time and the ability to litigate disputed issues of privilege. now, it is interesting that it will be hard for him to assert rutledge and get on
cipollone could testify about. unfortunately, for the committee, mr. cipollone held the cards and he could testify and make the rules and presumably, it sounds like through congressman lofgren that they did get some productive stuff that they only got what mr. cipollone wanted to give them. >> do you think that has any kind of impact on a potential investigation by the justice department? >> well, you know, that would be -- that is kind of mr. cipollone testifying under a entirely...
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cipollone to come forward and testify, he did, mr. cipollone's testimony met our expectations, we will save, for our next hearing, president trump's behavior during the violence of january 6th, today's hearing will take us from december 14th, 2020, when the electoral college met and certified the results of the 2020 presidential election, up through the morning of january 6th. you will see a certain segments of pat cipollone's testimony today, we will also see, today, how president trump summoned a mob to washington and how the president stolen election lies provoked that mob to attack the capital. and, we will hear of a man who was induced by president trump's lies to come to washington and join the mob, and how that decision has changed his life. today's hearing is our seventh we have covered significant ground over the past several weeks and we have also seen a change in how witnesses and lawyers in the trump orbit approach this committee. initially, their strategy in some cases appeared to be to deny and delay, today there appears
cipollone to come forward and testify, he did, mr. cipollone's testimony met our expectations, we will save, for our next hearing, president trump's behavior during the violence of january 6th, today's hearing will take us from december 14th, 2020, when the electoral college met and certified the results of the 2020 presidential election, up through the morning of january 6th. you will see a certain segments of pat cipollone's testimony today, we will also see, today, how president trump...
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mr. cipollone had reviewed mr. eastman's legal theory and expressed his view repeatedly the vice president was right. even offered to take the blame for the vice president's position. >> i thought that the vice president did not have the authority to do what was being suggested under a proper reading of the law. i conveyed that. i think i actually -- somebody, you know, in the vice president's -- just blame me, you know, just -- i'm not a politician, you know, but i just said i'm a lawyer, this is my legal opinion. but let me tell you this. can i say a word about the vice president? >> please. >> i think the vice president did the right thing. i think he did the courageous thing. i have a great deal of respect for vice president pence. i worked with him very closely. i think he understood my opinion. i think he understood my opinion afterwards as well. i think he did a great service to this country and i think i suggested to somebody that he should get a presidential medal of freedom for his actions. >> earlier thi
mr. cipollone had reviewed mr. eastman's legal theory and expressed his view repeatedly the vice president was right. even offered to take the blame for the vice president's position. >> i thought that the vice president did not have the authority to do what was being suggested under a proper reading of the law. i conveyed that. i think i actually -- somebody, you know, in the vice president's -- just blame me, you know, just -- i'm not a politician, you know, but i just said i'm a...
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cipollone to testify here. indeed, our evidence shows that mr. cipollone and his office tried to do what was right. they tried to stop a number of president trump's plans for january 6th. we think that the american people deserve to hear mr. cipollone personally. he said appear before this committee, and we are working to secure his testimony. >> well, they have it secured. he is now scheduled to testify this friday, just two days from now. the interview will be behind closed doors, but it will be videotaped. so the committee will be able to play portions of it in future hearings, as they have done for lots of the witnesses they've interviewed. a part of the reason that path cipollone testimony is such a big deal, because of the role that he played in the white house. white house counsel. to understand that role, here's some historical context. during the watergate hearings, the breakthrough witnesses was none other than richard nixon's white house counsel, john dean. his testimony in june of 1973 cracked open the investigation. >> i began by tel
cipollone to testify here. indeed, our evidence shows that mr. cipollone and his office tried to do what was right. they tried to stop a number of president trump's plans for january 6th. we think that the american people deserve to hear mr. cipollone personally. he said appear before this committee, and we are working to secure his testimony. >> well, they have it secured. he is now scheduled to testify this friday, just two days from now. the interview will be behind closed doors, but...
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are we going to see much of mr. cipollone's testimony? >> we are always receiving new information from a lot of different sources, and we are trying to pull the information that the american people most need to hear. and i imagine you will be hearing things from mr. cipollone but also from others that were in the white house. the focus of this next hearing will be on the domestic violent extremists, as well as members of congress, people that the president called in to assist him in this pressure campaign. and this pressure campaign is a follow on to the previous hearings where we talked about how the president pressured the vice president, pressured the department of justice, pressured state election and electors to just call the race in his favor. and he, in the waning days leading up to the january 6th called in additional support. >> congressman raskin called it convergence, these groups and what they were doing here. they wouldn't be here without the president wanting them here. but are you going to be able to provide evidence that's
are we going to see much of mr. cipollone's testimony? >> we are always receiving new information from a lot of different sources, and we are trying to pull the information that the american people most need to hear. and i imagine you will be hearing things from mr. cipollone but also from others that were in the white house. the focus of this next hearing will be on the domestic violent extremists, as well as members of congress, people that the president called in to assist him in this...
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>> mr. cipollone did appear voluntarily and answer a variety of questions. he did not contradict the testimony of other witnesses. and i think we did learn a few things which we will be rolling out in hearings to come. >> my ears perked up on the idea answering questions, so, now, congress woman went on to say that not contradicting is not the same as confirming. more on that. and two people familiar with cipollone's testimony says the committee did not ask him if he told hutchinson that they would quote get charged with every crime imaginable, unquote, if they went to the capitol. he would not have confirmed that, apparently, confirmed that statement if they had asked the question. you also heard the congresswoman say that some of what they learned from pat cipollone today will roll out in the future hearings to come. will we be hearing and seeing? remember it was videotaped as well some of his testimony as soon as next week? and will the former president be watching? you got to figure this is one witness that he really, really hoped would not cooperate wit
>> mr. cipollone did appear voluntarily and answer a variety of questions. he did not contradict the testimony of other witnesses. and i think we did learn a few things which we will be rolling out in hearings to come. >> my ears perked up on the idea answering questions, so, now, congress woman went on to say that not contradicting is not the same as confirming. more on that. and two people familiar with cipollone's testimony says the committee did not ask him if he told hutchinson...
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cipollone to testify here. indeed, our evidence shows that mr. cipollone and his office tried to do what was right. we think the american people deserve to hear mr. cipollone personally. >> so this important testimony is likely to be revealed this week and we will also hear from another key witness it seems, sarah matthews, a former deputy press secretary will be under oath. she will be live on tv. she resigned from the administration on the night of january 6th, saying that she was quote, deeply disturbed. matthews calling cassidy hutchinson's testimony damning and that trump allies were scared. now the tuesday hearing will focus on a direct connections between far-right extremist groups and people in trump's orbit. let's break all this down now with barbara mcquade, former u.s. attorney and msnbc legal analyst, and romero moriarty a, former federal prosecutor legal affairs columnist for politico. great to have you both of us with us. barbara, i would like to start with you. after that testimony yesterday, a member of the committee representing
cipollone to testify here. indeed, our evidence shows that mr. cipollone and his office tried to do what was right. we think the american people deserve to hear mr. cipollone personally. >> so this important testimony is likely to be revealed this week and we will also hear from another key witness it seems, sarah matthews, a former deputy press secretary will be under oath. she will be live on tv. she resigned from the administration on the night of january 6th, saying that she was...
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mr. cipollone had reviewed mr. eastman's legal theory and expressed his view repeatedly that the vice president was right. he even offered to take the blame for the vice president's position. >> i thought the vice president did not have the authority to do what the meeting suggested under a proper reading at the law. i conveyed that, i think i actually -- in the vice -- just blame me. i'm not a politician. i just said, i'm a lawyer. this is my legal opinion. but, let me tell you this, can i say worried about the vice president? >> please. >> i think the vice president did the right thing. i think he did the courageous thing. i have a great deal of respect for vice president pence. i work with him very closely. i think he understood my opinion, i think he understood my opinion afterwards, as well. i think he did a great service to this country and i think i suggested to somebody that he should be given a presidential me medal of freedom for his actions. >> earlier this year, a federal district court judge concluded
mr. cipollone had reviewed mr. eastman's legal theory and expressed his view repeatedly that the vice president was right. he even offered to take the blame for the vice president's position. >> i thought the vice president did not have the authority to do what the meeting suggested under a proper reading at the law. i conveyed that, i think i actually -- in the vice -- just blame me. i'm not a politician. i just said, i'm a lawyer. this is my legal opinion. but, let me tell you this, can...
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let's watch. >> i saw mr. cipollone right before i walked out onto west exec that morning, and mr. cipollone said something to the effect of please make sure we don't go up to the capitol, cassidy. keep in touch with me. we're going to get charged with every crime imaginable if we make that movement happen. >> and sources say cipollone may agree to a limited transcribed interview because of issues with attorney/client privilege. what would you say to pat cipollone elie? >> well, i would say, pat, to be in role here, look, if you want to avoid testifying here, you probably can. you don't have really the strongest executive privilege argument, but the reality is the committee doesn't have time to take you to court to challenge it. however, mr. cipollone you might want to think about doing the right thing. you might want to think about ending up on the right side of history because clearly his testimony is important here. we need to know, even if he wants to siphon off what he said to donald trump. what did you say to mark meadows that day? what did you say to other important white ho
let's watch. >> i saw mr. cipollone right before i walked out onto west exec that morning, and mr. cipollone said something to the effect of please make sure we don't go up to the capitol, cassidy. keep in touch with me. we're going to get charged with every crime imaginable if we make that movement happen. >> and sources say cipollone may agree to a limited transcribed interview because of issues with attorney/client privilege. what would you say to pat cipollone elie? >>...
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cipollone thought mr. meadows was pushing this along with the president. >> and we understand, miss hutchinson, that you also spoke to mr. cipollone on the more morning of the sixth, as you were about to go to the rally on the ellipse. mr. cipollone said something to you like, make sure the movement to the capitol does not happen. is that correct? >> that's correct. i saw mr. cipollone just before i walked out that morning. mr. cipollone said something to the effect of, please make sure we don't go up to the capitol, cassidy. keep in touch with me. we're going to get charged with every crime imaginable if we make that movement happen. >> and you remember which crimes mr. cipollone was concerned with? >> in the days leading up to the sixth, we had conversations about potentially obstructing justice or defrauding the electoral -- >> let's hear about some of those concerns that you mentioned earlier in one of your interviews with us. >> having a private conversation with pat late in the afternoon on the fourt
cipollone thought mr. meadows was pushing this along with the president. >> and we understand, miss hutchinson, that you also spoke to mr. cipollone on the more morning of the sixth, as you were about to go to the rally on the ellipse. mr. cipollone said something to you like, make sure the movement to the capitol does not happen. is that correct? >> that's correct. i saw mr. cipollone just before i walked out that morning. mr. cipollone said something to the effect of, please make...
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although mr. cipollone was unwilling to provide more detail, ms. hutchinson provided more explicit information filling in those blanks. see that for yourself. >> it wasn't until mark hung up the phone, handed it back to me. i went back to my desk. a couple minutes later, him and pat came back, possibly eric herschmann too. i'm pretty sure eric herschmann was there. i'm confident it was pat that was there. i remember pat saying something to the effect of mark, we need to do something more. they're literally calling for the vice president to be f'ing hung. and mark had responded something to the effect of you heard him, pat. he thinks mike deserves it. he doesn't think they're doing anything wrong. to which pat said something this is f'ing crazy. we need to be doing something more. briefly stepped into mark's office. >> the "cbs overnight news" will be right back. with depression, you just feel...blah. not okay. all...the...symptoms. need to deal with this. so your doctor tells you about trintellix, a prescription medicine for adults with depression.
although mr. cipollone was unwilling to provide more detail, ms. hutchinson provided more explicit information filling in those blanks. see that for yourself. >> it wasn't until mark hung up the phone, handed it back to me. i went back to my desk. a couple minutes later, him and pat came back, possibly eric herschmann too. i'm pretty sure eric herschmann was there. i'm confident it was pat that was there. i remember pat saying something to the effect of mark, we need to do something more....
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mr. cipollone's discussions with the committee so far have been informal. and we look forward, again, to his on-the-record testimony. the american people deserve to hear his testimony. >> reporter: the january 6th committee subpoenaed cipollone to formally testify before the committee. pat cipollone was there for it all. there was probably nobody outside of mark meadows who had closer access to donald trump on january 6th and in those days before. do you think we will see pat cipollone testify? >> i really hope we will. i think this is an instance where the presidency, the american people, where we've been through something we've never been through before, where the very real and significant chance that there was behavior under way about which mr. cipollone expressed significant legal concerns, and i think he has an obligation to testify. >> he said some remarkable things to cassidy hutchinson, according to hutchinson. how can that be executive privilege, his conversations with an aide in the white house? this is not conversations with the president. >> cor
mr. cipollone's discussions with the committee so far have been informal. and we look forward, again, to his on-the-record testimony. the american people deserve to hear his testimony. >> reporter: the january 6th committee subpoenaed cipollone to formally testify before the committee. pat cipollone was there for it all. there was probably nobody outside of mark meadows who had closer access to donald trump on january 6th and in those days before. do you think we will see pat cipollone...
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mr. cipollone's testimony met our expectations. we will save for our next hearing president trump's behavior during the violence of january 6th. today's hearing will take us from december 14th, 2020, when the electoral college met and certify the results of the 2020 presidential election, up through the morning of january 6th. you will see certain segments of pat cipollone's testa phone -- testimony today. you will also see today how president trump summoned a mob to washington and how the president still election lies provoke that mob to attack the capitol. we will hear from a man who is induced by president trump's lies to come to washington and join them on. and how that decision has changed his life. today's hearing is our seventh. we have covered significant ground over the past several weeks, and we have also seen a change and witnesses and lawyers in the trump orbit approached this committee. initially, there is tragedy in some cases appeared to be to deny and delay. today, there appears to be a general recognition that the
mr. cipollone's testimony met our expectations. we will save for our next hearing president trump's behavior during the violence of january 6th. today's hearing will take us from december 14th, 2020, when the electoral college met and certify the results of the 2020 presidential election, up through the morning of january 6th. you will see certain segments of pat cipollone's testa phone -- testimony today. you will also see today how president trump summoned a mob to washington and how the...
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we think the american people deserve to hear from mr. cipollone personally. he should appear before this committee and we are working to secure his testimony. >> the january 6th investigation has publicly and repeatedly called for white house counsel pat cipollone, the top lawyer in the white house to testify. today they got their wish. mr. cipollone met with january six investigators in person for an on camera, transcribed interview that lasted for eight hours. a source familiar with his testimony told nbc that the former white house counsel was quote a cooperative witness in that within the parameters of his desire to protect executive privilege. that would preclude him from talking about certain conversations with the former president, but the former white house counsel was of course president at multiple meetings with president trump and others and which efforts to challenger overturn the results of the election were discussed. he attended a heated meeting in december 2020 which the seizure of voting machines was discussed, and he warned the president in
we think the american people deserve to hear from mr. cipollone personally. he should appear before this committee and we are working to secure his testimony. >> the january 6th investigation has publicly and repeatedly called for white house counsel pat cipollone, the top lawyer in the white house to testify. today they got their wish. mr. cipollone met with january six investigators in person for an on camera, transcribed interview that lasted for eight hours. a source familiar with his...
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cipollone right before i walked out into west exec that morning and mr. cipollone said something to the effect of, please make sure we don't go up to the capitol, cassidy, keep in touch with me, we're going to get charged with every crime imaginable if we make that movement happen. >> joining me now, charles coleman, a former prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst. great to see you. if you're in that room, what's your question for pat cipollone that he probably could answer and not cite executive or attorney-client privilege? >> well, chris, i think that when you're talking about the importance of this witness, one of the things that you want to do is just try to get them to but buttress, and cooperate, and not run afoul of executive privilege or attorney-client privilege but what i do expect that is going to happen is mr. cipollone is likely going to more often than none invoke his fifth amendment right from self-incrimination, and i don't expect him to elaborate rate on cassidy hutchinson's statement and i do expect he will be asked about it to try to get m
cipollone right before i walked out into west exec that morning and mr. cipollone said something to the effect of, please make sure we don't go up to the capitol, cassidy, keep in touch with me, we're going to get charged with every crime imaginable if we make that movement happen. >> joining me now, charles coleman, a former prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst. great to see you. if you're in that room, what's your question for pat cipollone that he probably could answer and not cite...
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>> mr. cipollone did appear voluntarily and answer a whole variety of questions. he did not contradict the testimony of other witnesses, and i think we did learn a few things which we will be rolling out in the hearings to come. so, i think it was, you know, a grueling day for all involved, mr. cipollone and the staff and the members. but it was well worth it. >> well worth it, says committee zoe lofgren on cnn earlier tonight. she did not get into specifics, but she thought cipollone was candid with the panel today and believes that his answers were, quote, honest. congresswoman lofgren did note, quote, some complications when it came to attorney/client privilege belonging to trump. but she said executive privilege was not an issue because the holder of that privilege is in fact president biden. in another interview, she said the former white house counsel never pleaded the fifth. so, what does that mean for the ex-president? there's a lot of intrigue about this testimony because, of course, cipollone was such a critical figure in the trump white house. he could
>> mr. cipollone did appear voluntarily and answer a whole variety of questions. he did not contradict the testimony of other witnesses, and i think we did learn a few things which we will be rolling out in the hearings to come. so, i think it was, you know, a grueling day for all involved, mr. cipollone and the staff and the members. but it was well worth it. >> well worth it, says committee zoe lofgren on cnn earlier tonight. she did not get into specifics, but she thought...
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cipollone right before i walked out that morning. mr. cipollone said something to the effect of, please make sure that we don't go to the capitol, cassidy, keep in touch with me. we are going to get charged with every crime imaginable if we make that movement happen. >> joining us now is daniel goldman, the former house majority counsel for the first impeachment trial of donald trump, he is a former assistant journey -- and he is now running as a democrat for new york's tenth congressional district. also joining our discussion is democratic georgia state senator jim jordan. she's running for attorney general in georgia. senator jordan, let me begin with you. and what we heard from fani willis today. did any of that surprise you? what do you think the effectiveness will be of her subpoena process? >> none of it surprised me. they have been very intentional in terms of how they have approached this. they have been very serious. and even just today, there was order out of the fulton county superior court, where some important state senators
cipollone right before i walked out that morning. mr. cipollone said something to the effect of, please make sure that we don't go to the capitol, cassidy, keep in touch with me. we are going to get charged with every crime imaginable if we make that movement happen. >> joining us now is daniel goldman, the former house majority counsel for the first impeachment trial of donald trump, he is a former assistant journey -- and he is now running as a democrat for new york's tenth...
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we know by the end the former president and mr. cipollone had a very tension relationship. he was quite negative about his unwillingness to go along with what he wanted to do. but mr. cipollone so far had not wanted to testify, exerted privilege and didn't want to discuss his conversations with the former president. so we're expecting what the committee is going to do, katy, is to really go through with mr. cipollone in detail those days leading up to january 6th and shortly after and to ask him about the witness testimony from many others for his side of the story, whether it was true or not, what else he remembers about some of those pivotal meetings, those pivotal conversations that led up to the 6th happening. >> what would it mean that he did in fact tell the president that it would be unlawful for him to make moves to try to overturn the election as we saw him do or it would be unlawful to encourage his supporters to storm the capitol, unlaw for for him, himself to go to the capitol? >> i don't think it would be useful to demonstrate donald trump's criminal intent. we
we know by the end the former president and mr. cipollone had a very tension relationship. he was quite negative about his unwillingness to go along with what he wanted to do. but mr. cipollone so far had not wanted to testify, exerted privilege and didn't want to discuss his conversations with the former president. so we're expecting what the committee is going to do, katy, is to really go through with mr. cipollone in detail those days leading up to january 6th and shortly after and to ask...
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i saw mr. cipollone right before i walked out onto west exec that morning. and mr. cipollone said something to the effect of, "please make sure we don't go up to the capitol, cassidy keep in touch with me. we're going to get charged with every crime imaginable if we make that movement happen. >> and do you remember which crimes mr. cipollone was concerned with >> in the days leading up to the 6th, we had conversations about potentially obstructing justice or defrauding the electoral count. >> seth: it's amazing. "we're going to get charged with every crime imaginable." it's truly mind-boggling to me that none of these guys are in jail yet when they themselves were expecting to end up in jail merrick garland's still poring over transcripts, looking for a smoking gun. meanwhile, on january 6th, trump aides were all on pinterest searching for ways to accessorize your orange jumpsuit [ laughter ] "oh, cool. it says you can bedazzle your handcuffs. and crucially, that comment from cipollone was not just a one-time freak out on january 6th. as hutchinson made clear in tha
i saw mr. cipollone right before i walked out onto west exec that morning. and mr. cipollone said something to the effect of, "please make sure we don't go up to the capitol, cassidy keep in touch with me. we're going to get charged with every crime imaginable if we make that movement happen. >> and do you remember which crimes mr. cipollone was concerned with >> in the days leading up to the 6th, we had conversations about potentially obstructing justice or defrauding the...
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cipollone right before i walked out that morning, and mr. cipollone said something to the effect of, please make sure we don't go up to the capitol, cassidy, keep in touch with me. we are going to get charged with every crime imaginable if we make that move happen. >> pat said something to be effective, and, very clearly, said this to mark, something to the effect of, mark, something needs to be done or people are going to die and the blood will be on your hands. >> well, he was right about those warnings, that cassidy talked about. trump did not act and people did die. melanie is out front on capitol hill. what more are you learning about this new video, about mr. clark, and about what we can expect tomorrow on the committee side of things? >> this footage was obtained and it shows the moment that authorities arrived on jeffrey clark's doorstep to conduct a search warrant. we also know because of police reports the search warrant was connected to an ongoing fraud investigation and clark was the doj environmental lawyer who trump tried to in
cipollone right before i walked out that morning, and mr. cipollone said something to the effect of, please make sure we don't go up to the capitol, cassidy, keep in touch with me. we are going to get charged with every crime imaginable if we make that move happen. >> pat said something to be effective, and, very clearly, said this to mark, something to the effect of, mark, something needs to be done or people are going to die and the blood will be on your hands. >> well, he was...
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. >> mr. cipollone said something to the effect of please be sure that we don't go up to to the capitol, cassidy. please keep in touch with me. we are gonna get charged with every charge imaginable if we do that. in the days leading up to the sixth, we had conversations about potentially obstructing justice or defrauding the electoral count. >> no surprise. tonight the committee says it is eager to hear cipollone's version of how trump and his allies worked to keep joe biden out of the white house despite his legitimate win in 2020. >> we learned quite a bit about things that mr. cipollone said and did from multiple other witnesses. but there are some things we would like to hear from him directly and we hope that we will learn some things from him. he certainly was in the room when a variety of things happened relative to the efforts to overthrow the election. >> we are also learning more tonight about the investigation of donald trump's possible election interference down in the state of geo
. >> mr. cipollone said something to the effect of please be sure that we don't go up to to the capitol, cassidy. please keep in touch with me. we are gonna get charged with every charge imaginable if we do that. in the days leading up to the sixth, we had conversations about potentially obstructing justice or defrauding the electoral count. >> no surprise. tonight the committee says it is eager to hear cipollone's version of how trump and his allies worked to keep joe biden out of...
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while mr. cipollone can corroborate parts of the story, so can others. the way you would build a criminal case, not at the hearing, of course, because they don't have criminal authority, but the way you would build a criminal case are through multiple witnesses and multiple documents. ms. hutchinson might be one of them. she wouldn't be the only one. >> sahil, briefly, what we expect next week is going to be a marathon morning and afternoon we will be at it and carrying it live here on tuesday. a lot of loose ends to try to tape together. then on thursday night in primetime. could that be the wrap-up until they have a report? >> it might be. the committee has officially said there will be at least two more hearings. we have seen the schedule has been fluid. they could add a hearing down the road. so far, what they say they want to cover in the remaining hearings is the assembly of the mob who organized and financed and participated in the rallies. there's been discussion about getting groups like the proud boys, talking about their level of participation
while mr. cipollone can corroborate parts of the story, so can others. the way you would build a criminal case, not at the hearing, of course, because they don't have criminal authority, but the way you would build a criminal case are through multiple witnesses and multiple documents. ms. hutchinson might be one of them. she wouldn't be the only one. >> sahil, briefly, what we expect next week is going to be a marathon morning and afternoon we will be at it and carrying it live here on...
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. >> mr. cipollone was in the room. we have testimony from others about what he said and did, but there are some things that we need to hear from him about directly. >> the committee's next public hearing is set for next tuesday. >>> still an ahead tonight, a freak accident at a california amusement park. h >>> supply chain issues have been a huge driver of inflation during the pandemic. why the same problem could soon lead to big discounts. >>> and northern california firefighters have an important new tool in their arsenal tonight. the helicopter that could be a game changer. >>> and starting monday, join our morning team for new 7:00 a.m. newscast streaming live on cbs bay area. >>> tonight we've learned the accused kill ier of an elite ba area cyclist may have faked her way onto a flight. caitl caitlyn armstrong is back in the u.s. after being on the run. the u.s. marshals say she flew from austin to new york on may 14th with a fraudulent passport. >> armstrong boarded the flight and fled to international territory
. >> mr. cipollone was in the room. we have testimony from others about what he said and did, but there are some things that we need to hear from him about directly. >> the committee's next public hearing is set for next tuesday. >>> still an ahead tonight, a freak accident at a california amusement park. h >>> supply chain issues have been a huge driver of inflation during the pandemic. why the same problem could soon lead to big discounts. >>> and...
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and so mr. cipollone had to take the call himself. so if president trump wasn't calling law enforcement or military leaders, what did president trump spend his time doing that afternoon while he first settled into the dining room? he was calling senators to encourage them to delay or object to the certification. here is kayleigh mcenany, his press secretary, to explain. >> all right, he wants a list of snators. and then he's calling them one by one. do you know which ones he called? >> to the best of my recollection, no. as i say in my notes he wanted a list of the senators, and i left them at that point. >> because the presidential call log is empty, we do not yet know precisely which senators president trump was calling. but we do know from rudy giuliani's phone records that president trump also called him at 1:39 after he had been told that the riot was under way at the capitol. mr. giuliani was president trump's lead election attorney. according to the phone records, the president's call with him lasted approximately four minutes.
and so mr. cipollone had to take the call himself. so if president trump wasn't calling law enforcement or military leaders, what did president trump spend his time doing that afternoon while he first settled into the dining room? he was calling senators to encourage them to delay or object to the certification. here is kayleigh mcenany, his press secretary, to explain. >> all right, he wants a list of snators. and then he's calling them one by one. do you know which ones he called?...
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cipollone to come forward to testify. he did and mr. cipollone's testimony met our expectations. we will save for our next hearing president trump's behavior during the violence of january 6. today's hearing will take us from december 14, 2020, when the electoral college met and certified the results of the 2020 presidential election, up through the morning of january 6. you will see certain segments of pat cipollone's testimony today. we will also see today how president trump summoned a mob to washington and how the president's stolen election lies provoked that mob to attack the capitol. and we will hear from a man who was induced by president trump's lies to come to washington and join the mob and how that decision has changed his life. today's hearing is our seventh. we have covered significant ground over the past several weeks, and we have also seen a change in how witnesses and lawyers in the trump orbit approach this committee. initially, their strategy in some cases appeared to be to deny and delay. today there appears to be a general recognition that the committee has
cipollone to come forward to testify. he did and mr. cipollone's testimony met our expectations. we will save for our next hearing president trump's behavior during the violence of january 6. today's hearing will take us from december 14, 2020, when the electoral college met and certified the results of the 2020 presidential election, up through the morning of january 6. you will see certain segments of pat cipollone's testimony today. we will also see today how president trump summoned a mob...
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cipollone. >> pat cipollone. >> white house counsel pat cipollone. >> mr. trump's former white house counsel pat cipollone. >> there you go. there will, of course, be limitations, due to executive and attorney/client privilege. but it's still a very big deal. this is someone who spent a significant amount of time with the ex-president while he was in office before, during, and after january 6th. he is a witness who could potentially help fill in lots of critical blanks. remember, hutchinson testified that cipollone -- >> mr. cipollone said something to the effect of please make sure we don't go up to the capitol, cassidy. keep in touch with me. we're going to get charged with every crime manageable if we make that movement happen. >> will we see some of cipollone's testimony? >>> meanwhile, one has gone from defending the white house days, investigating trump's actions on january 6th. why? i put that and more to trump acting chief of staff mick mulvaney. sir, thanks so much for being here. >> kasie, thanks as always for having me. >> you previously predicte
cipollone. >> pat cipollone. >> white house counsel pat cipollone. >> mr. trump's former white house counsel pat cipollone. >> there you go. there will, of course, be limitations, due to executive and attorney/client privilege. but it's still a very big deal. this is someone who spent a significant amount of time with the ex-president while he was in office before, during, and after january 6th. he is a witness who could potentially help fill in lots of critical blanks....