mr. wurfl: yes. he was a political prisoner. peter: what was his crime according to the nazi regime? mr. wurfl: because he was with the austrian government and they were not in favor of becoming part of germany. so the hitler people took all of those people and took them to camps or whatever they did with them who did not prefer to be part of germany. on my father and the president of austria certainly didn't. peter: you wrote that our life in berlin was calm and stable but in the 1930's, jews and berlin were not entitled to a completely normal way of life. how is it that you moved from austria to berlin in 1936? mr. wurfl: because my grandparents lived there. they thought i would be safer in berlin at the time because it was very strange, but berlin was one of the later places that was taken over by hitler as far as getting rid of jewish people. they were everywhere, hospitals, teachers, so one so the jewish were a big part of the commerce and part of the education and so on in berlin. so there were