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all up to pence. telling the crowd pence had the power to overturn biden's election victory, saying, quote, mike pence is going to have to come through for us. even though trump's inner circle, white house lawyers and pence himself had repeatedly told the president that the vice president does not have that power. and then after the violence was under way, the president aware the attack was unfolding, at 2:24 p.m., the president tweeting that mike pence didn't have the courage to do what should have been done. the committee saying the crowd seeing that tweet and reacting. later, the worlds, the chants, "hang mike pence." the vice president later rushed out of the senate chamber to another room and then down to a secure underground location. at one point, they were just 40 feet from that mob. where he spent the next four hours. a confidential informant actually telling the fbi that the extremist group the proud boys would have killed mike pence if given the chance. the testimony today, what the preside
all up to pence. telling the crowd pence had the power to overturn biden's election victory, saying, quote, mike pence is going to have to come through for us. even though trump's inner circle, white house lawyers and pence himself had repeatedly told the president that the vice president does not have that power. and then after the violence was under way, the president aware the attack was unfolding, at 2:24 p.m., the president tweeting that mike pence didn't have the courage to do what should...
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>> bring out pence! >> hang mike pence! hang mike pence! hang mike pence! hang mike pence! hang mike pence! >> nothing but a traitor, and he deserves to burn with the rest of them. this escalated, after pence -- >> yeah, pence didn't do what we wanted. >> he voted against trump. that's how it all started? >> yes, that's why we're marching to the capitol. we've been shot at with rubber bullets, tear gassed. [inaudible] >> i'm not going to reject any fraudulent electoral votes! >> boo! >> that's right. mike pence has betrayed the united states of america! >> boo! >> mike pence has betrayed the people of united states, and we will never ever forget. >> yeah! >> it's real simple, pence betrayed us, which apparently, everybody knew he was going to. and the president mentioned it, like, five times when he talked. he even, you can go back and watch the president's video. >> [inaudible] formally, people coming in -- a lot of -- [inaudible] >> it's all that matters. >> justice is coming. left as a threat for the vice president on the days where he has been provided presiding over th
>> bring out pence! >> hang mike pence! hang mike pence! hang mike pence! hang mike pence! hang mike pence! >> nothing but a traitor, and he deserves to burn with the rest of them. this escalated, after pence -- >> yeah, pence didn't do what we wanted. >> he voted against trump. that's how it all started? >> yes, that's why we're marching to the capitol. we've been shot at with rubber bullets, tear gassed. [inaudible] >> i'm not going to reject any...
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from mike pence? >> certainly, it would be harder without firsthand evidence for mike pence. -- from individuals who were in the room or heard about these conversations that happen. obviously, having mike pence in his testimony would be critical. i don't know if it's entirely necessary. on some of the information is not considered hearsay. some of these people were there, and they heard these things firsthand. again, having mike pence say these things to attest to what happened to him, and what kind of pressure was put to him, would obviously be best. he doesn't seem to be entirely forthcoming. as you say, he could be in front of the january 6th committee testifying before the country and he is not. >> melissa, joan, rick sit tight for a quick minute. we're gonna squeeze in a quick break. on the other side of it -- so the come, most of us know the name rudy giuliani on the role he played. the name that you may not know, john eastman. the attorney at the center of the former presidents effort to overtu
from mike pence? >> certainly, it would be harder without firsthand evidence for mike pence. -- from individuals who were in the room or heard about these conversations that happen. obviously, having mike pence in his testimony would be critical. i don't know if it's entirely necessary. on some of the information is not considered hearsay. some of these people were there, and they heard these things firsthand. again, having mike pence say these things to attest to what happened to him,...
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pence, mr. loyal, is watching the president lie, knowing what he told the president, knowing that the president called him a wimp and everything else. and pretty soon, his life is going to be, you know, at stake here. he's going to be 40 feet away from the rioters. he's going to be stuck in that basement for four hours. he's not going to get one phone call, not one phone call from the president of the united states. >> he's standing at what looks like the loading dock. >> yeah. >> right. or garage. and he's on the phone. and then, he's also looking at the phone, as well, as to what you were saying, gloria. i want everybody to stay with me. much more ahead of our coverage of the testimony from today's january 6th committee hearing. one person behind the plot was ready and willing to accept vie lanesens as an effect of it. ♪ what happens when performance... meets power? you try crazy things... ...because you're crazy... ...and you like it. you get bigger... ...badder... ...faster. ♪ you can ne
pence, mr. loyal, is watching the president lie, knowing what he told the president, knowing that the president called him a wimp and everything else. and pretty soon, his life is going to be, you know, at stake here. he's going to be 40 feet away from the rioters. he's going to be stuck in that basement for four hours. he's not going to get one phone call, not one phone call from the president of the united states. >> he's standing at what looks like the loading dock. >> yeah....
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-- pence's life. watch this. >> i hearing that pence -- i hearing that pence just caved. is that true? i am -- i am hearing reports that pence caved. i am telling you, if pence caved, we're gonna drag motherfuckers through the streets. you politicians are going to get fucking through the streets. >> i guess the hope is there is such a show of force that pence will just decide to do the right thing, according to trump. >> hang mike pence! hang mike pence? zb . >> back to the panel. jeffrey toobin, based on everything we heard today, trump and potential criminal charges. what do you think? >> um, chances went up today. you know, there is a lot that needs to be done if you are going to do criminal charges, and i don't think there would ever be criminal charges based solely on the effort to convince mike pence to do something even if -- if it's against the law. i just that, constitutionally, would be a big problem since the vice president is the president's subordinate. however, the issue of violence is d
-- pence's life. watch this. >> i hearing that pence -- i hearing that pence just caved. is that true? i am -- i am hearing reports that pence caved. i am telling you, if pence caved, we're gonna drag motherfuckers through the streets. you politicians are going to get fucking through the streets. >> i guess the hope is there is such a show of force that pence will just decide to do the right thing, according to trump. >> hang mike pence! hang mike pence? zb . >> back to...
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>> yep. >> hang mike pence! hang mike pence! >> mike pence was truly in danger that day, you know, that wasn't all just rhetorical. the committee members were very clear on that. here's congressman aguilar. >> make no mistake about the fact that the vice-president's life was in danger. a recent court filing by the department of justice explains that a confidential informant from the proud boys told the fbi, the proud boys would have killed mike pence if given a chance. >> did you think, and you've heard those chants so many times, right, al? hang mike pence. and it's not as if you don't take it seriously and don't believe it's real, but did you believe those rioters were being literal? it certainly now appears that they were. >> oh, i've had no doubt about it. i mean there was clearly this concerted effort and to use their own words, it was clear they were being very literal about what they were going to do in their effort to chase down or locate different members of congress who they felt were standing in their way. and in the
>> yep. >> hang mike pence! hang mike pence! >> mike pence was truly in danger that day, you know, that wasn't all just rhetorical. the committee members were very clear on that. here's congressman aguilar. >> make no mistake about the fact that the vice-president's life was in danger. a recent court filing by the department of justice explains that a confidential informant from the proud boys told the fbi, the proud boys would have killed mike pence if given a chance....
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>> bring out pence! >> bring mike pence! bring mike pence! [ chanting ] >> much of today's testimony centered around john eastman, an attorney whose theory that the vice president had the authority to nullify the election outcome so laughable that donald trump's own aides, allies and closest advisers described dismissing it outright. here's that evidence. >> made clear with mr. meadows about you and the vice president having a different view about the authority on january 6. >> i believe i did. >> did he explit sy or tacetly agree with you or say that makes sense or okay? >> i believe that -- that mark did agree. >> what makes you say that? >> i believe that's what he told me. but as i mentioned i think mark told so many people so many different things that it was not something that i would necessarily accept. that's okay why that's resolved. >> i see. tell me what he told you on this topic. >> you know the vice president doesn't have a broader role. >> communicated to me that pat cipollone thought the idea was nutty and one point confronted
>> bring out pence! >> bring mike pence! bring mike pence! [ chanting ] >> much of today's testimony centered around john eastman, an attorney whose theory that the vice president had the authority to nullify the election outcome so laughable that donald trump's own aides, allies and closest advisers described dismissing it outright. here's that evidence. >> made clear with mr. meadows about you and the vice president having a different view about the authority on...
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hang mike pence. hang mike pence. hang mike pence. hang mike pence. hang mike pence. >> how did we get to this point? how did we get to the point where president trump's most radical supporters led a violent attack on the capitol and threatened to hang president trump's own vice president? you'll hear from witnesses that donald trump pressured mike pence to adopt a legally and morally bankrupt idea that the vice president could choose who the next president can be. you'll hear about how the vice president, the white house counsel, and others told donald trump that the vice president had no such authority. but president trump not listen. you'll hear how vice president pence withstood an onslaught of pressure from president trump both publicly and privately, a pressure campaign that built to a fever pitch with a heated phone call on january 6. you will also hear the president knew there was a violent mob when he tweeted at 2:24 p.m. that the vice president did not have the "courage to do what needed to be done." let me be clear, vice pr
hang mike pence. hang mike pence. hang mike pence. hang mike pence. hang mike pence. >> how did we get to this point? how did we get to the point where president trump's most radical supporters led a violent attack on the capitol and threatened to hang president trump's own vice president? you'll hear from witnesses that donald trump pressured mike pence to adopt a legally and morally bankrupt idea that the vice president could choose who the next president can be. you'll hear about how...
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but i admire mike pence even more -- admired mike pence even more when i heard what he did. he refused to leave the capitol because he wanted to stay with the counting of the ballots. i heard those two judges. this whole thing was riveting. i mean, i could not turn it off. i had to watch the whole thing all the way through. host: you say you admire mike pence. he is, at least in the discussion -- he's at least in the discussion about running in 2024 for the presidency. what do you think happens when he does? do you think there are democrats who would support a mike pence? caller: i hope he does not run because i don't think he's capable. i would rather see anyone else run, but not him. i don't think he's -- he has caused so much problems and he still things he won. host: i am talking about mike pence, wendy. there is discussion about mike pence running in 2024. caller: i would take him. i admire him for sticking up for -- for telling trump, no, i am not going to do what you are telling me to do. it is illegal, it is wrong, and i'm not going to do that. host: rochelle out of
but i admire mike pence even more -- admired mike pence even more when i heard what he did. he refused to leave the capitol because he wanted to stay with the counting of the ballots. i heard those two judges. this whole thing was riveting. i mean, i could not turn it off. i had to watch the whole thing all the way through. host: you say you admire mike pence. he is, at least in the discussion -- he's at least in the discussion about running in 2024 for the presidency. what do you think happens...
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i was concerned for mike pence's life. i was concerned about the threats against him, and what's going to happen on january 6th. i was concerned because i know who donald trump is an identity is capable of. i know at that inner circle is like, when somebody speaks out against him. i lived that and i certainly feared for the fact that i knew -- you know what, i had confidence that pence would do the right thing that day. but i knew that by doing the right thing that day, that meant he was going against trump. and when you do that, there are no limits to what that man is capable of. reading this, i have no doubt that there was fear in marc short. and that he knew what they were up against that day. >> yeah. i think what is becoming clearer and clearer to me -- i think everyone who is paying attention, particularly in the aftermath of january 6th, understood how serious what happened on that day was. aside from a bunch of paid propagandists or glib idiots trying to wipe it away, everyone understands what happens. they are two
i was concerned for mike pence's life. i was concerned about the threats against him, and what's going to happen on january 6th. i was concerned because i know who donald trump is an identity is capable of. i know at that inner circle is like, when somebody speaks out against him. i lived that and i certainly feared for the fact that i knew -- you know what, i had confidence that pence would do the right thing that day. but i knew that by doing the right thing that day, that meant he was going...
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hang mike pence! hang mike pence! hang mike pence! hang mike pence! hang mike pence! hang mike pence! >> a traitor and he deserves to burn with the rest of them. >> it's all escalated after pence -- what happened to pence? >> pence didn't do what we wanted. >> pence voted against trump. >> okay. that's when all this started? >> yup. that's when we marched on the capitol. we've been shot at with rubber bullets, teargassed. >> we just heard that mike pence is not going to reject any fraudulent elector votes. [ crowd booing ] >> traitor! >> boo. >> that's right. you heard it here first. mike pence has betrayed the united states of america. mike pence has betrayed this president, and he has betrayed the people of the united states. we will never, ever forget! >> it's real simple. pence betrayed us. which apparently everybody knew he was going to, and the president mentioned it like five times when he talked. you can go back and watch the president's video. >> this is our capitol. let's be respectful to it. 4 million people coming in so --
hang mike pence! hang mike pence! hang mike pence! hang mike pence! hang mike pence! hang mike pence! >> a traitor and he deserves to burn with the rest of them. >> it's all escalated after pence -- what happened to pence? >> pence didn't do what we wanted. >> pence voted against trump. >> okay. that's when all this started? >> yup. that's when we marched on the capitol. we've been shot at with rubber bullets, teargassed. >> we just heard that mike...
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so, while pence waited for word from trump, he was tweeting to the world and lashing out against pence in real time. >> vice president mike pence did not have the courage to do what should've been done to protect the country in the constitution. giving the states to certify incorrect facts. >> we also know that there was a phone call on the morning of january 6 between president donald trump and vice president mike pence. we do not know what the details of that conversation were. we were all wondering until now. apparently, ivanka trump heard it and she called it heated. someone else said that she also overheard the man who once bragged about grabbing women by their genitalia. he was now calling his own vice president the p word. we have a lot more on that ahead. they say that ignorance may be bliss but it seems that trump cannot reasonably claim that he did not know that what he was proposing was, shall we say, problematic. we heard testimony that he was warned that the plan to overturn the election was illegal. not by just lehman but one of his own lawyers who helped him cook up the
so, while pence waited for word from trump, he was tweeting to the world and lashing out against pence in real time. >> vice president mike pence did not have the courage to do what should've been done to protect the country in the constitution. giving the states to certify incorrect facts. >> we also know that there was a phone call on the morning of january 6 between president donald trump and vice president mike pence. we do not know what the details of that conversation were. we...
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. >> hang mike pence! >> the mob 40 feet away from vice president mike pence. >> the witnesses will please stand. >> january 6th committee revealing new photos, information, and explosive testimony. and the heated telephone call. >> i remember hearing the word win. >>> stand-in pride. for some members of the lgbtq+ community, living your truth can lead to isolation. >> what does it mean to have a supportive family member? >> for a lot of them,...
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jacob, how did vice president pence and mrs. pence react to that? >> with frustration. >> david urban, is that at all defensible for the president not to check on the safety of the vice president and not only for him to have sent that tweet -- i think it was 2:24 p.m. -- knowing the attack is underway, knowing his vice president is in danger, a tweet which is actually then read by the mob and spurs on the mob. >> anderson, clearly it's reprehensible. clearly, you know, the president's phone call to the vice president earlier that was recounted there in previous clips where, you know, he called him some pretty harsh names and raised his voice. it was recounted by several people who heard the conversation. mike pence is an honorable man, served his country very honorably, did the right thing that day. and for the president to lash out at him not like and not only not to check on him but to stir the pot, it's reprehensible. it's indefechbsable. >> eastman also pleaded the fifth some 100 times. do you think he could face criminal liability here? >> oh,
jacob, how did vice president pence and mrs. pence react to that? >> with frustration. >> david urban, is that at all defensible for the president not to check on the safety of the vice president and not only for him to have sent that tweet -- i think it was 2:24 p.m. -- knowing the attack is underway, knowing his vice president is in danger, a tweet which is actually then read by the mob and spurs on the mob. >> anderson, clearly it's reprehensible. clearly, you know, the...
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here is how pence's counsel described pence is mindset during thursday's hearing. the vice president's first instinct when he heard the theory was that there was no way our framers would ever have but one person in a role to have decisive impact on the outcome of the election. but that seems to run counter to what we know about pence's actions before january 6. most notably in a phone call with the former vice president dan quayle. another founder of indiana politics was on the board for terms politics. when exchange between the two was paralleled by robert costa. over and over, hence asked if there was anything he could do. mike, you have no flexibility on this, 9, 0, put it away. pence pressed again, you don't know the position i am in. i do know the position you're in. i also know what the law is. you listen to the parliamentarians. that's all you do. you have no power. anita in fort wayne, alabama. the. we will go to you. what do you think of the former vice president? caller: good morning. i think he is a good guy. i think he is a god-fearing guy. i think a lo
here is how pence's counsel described pence is mindset during thursday's hearing. the vice president's first instinct when he heard the theory was that there was no way our framers would ever have but one person in a role to have decisive impact on the outcome of the election. but that seems to run counter to what we know about pence's actions before january 6. most notably in a phone call with the former vice president dan quayle. another founder of indiana politics was on the board for terms...
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pence didn't do what we wanted. >> pence voted against trump. >> that's when all this started? >> yeah. that's when we marched on the capitol. we have been shot at with rubber bull lets and tear gas. >> we just heard that mike pence is not going to reject any fraudulent electoral votes. >> boo. >> that's right. you hearing-impaired it here first. mike pence has detrayed the united -- betrayed the united states of america. mike pence has betrayed this president and he's betrayed the people of the united states and we will never, ever forget. >> yeah. >> real simple. pence betrayed us, which apparently everything knew he was going to and the president mentioned it like five times when he talked. >> so, the committee detailed how after trump's 2:24 tweet. the tweet at 2:24 that the crowds outside and inside the capitol surged. they heard that. do you think that as a call to action, scott? >> well, of course. listen to their own words. the mob got within 40 feet of the vice president. we're darn lucky that something worse didn't happen and it was already a bad enough day. identify
pence didn't do what we wanted. >> pence voted against trump. >> that's when all this started? >> yeah. that's when we marched on the capitol. we have been shot at with rubber bull lets and tear gas. >> we just heard that mike pence is not going to reject any fraudulent electoral votes. >> boo. >> that's right. you hearing-impaired it here first. mike pence has detrayed the united -- betrayed the united states of america. mike pence has betrayed this...
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out pence. >> bring out pence, hang mike pence, hang mike pence, hang mike pence. >> according to the committee's vice chair, there is one reason that that took place. >> vice president pence understood that his oath of office was more important than his loyalty to donald trump. he did his duty. president trump unequivocally did n. >> so let's remind ourselves what mike pence's role on january 6 was. it was largely procedural. he was required to oversee the vote certification for the 2020 presidential election. that's because the vice president also presides over the u.s. senate. it is a formality, but donald trump claimed mike pence had the power to overturn those results. so let's remind ourselves also what donald trump said just ght before the capitol riot. >> we will have to fight much harder, and mike pence is going to have to come through for us, and if he doesn't, that will be a sad day for our country. >> now, we are going to speak to our correspondent in washington in just a moment, but first of all, let's bring you the latest evidence. it is of a heated phone call between pr
out pence. >> bring out pence, hang mike pence, hang mike pence, hang mike pence. >> according to the committee's vice chair, there is one reason that that took place. >> vice president pence understood that his oath of office was more important than his loyalty to donald trump. he did his duty. president trump unequivocally did n. >> so let's remind ourselves what mike pence's role on january 6 was. it was largely procedural. he was required to oversee the vote...
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according to trump. >> hang mike pence. >> hang mike pence. >> bring mike pence. bring mike pence. hang mike pence. >> how did we get to this point? how did we get to the point where president trump's most radical supporters led a violent attack on the capitol and threatened to hang president trump's own vice president? you'll hear from witnesses that donald trump pressured mike pence to adopt a legally and morally bankrupt idea that the vice president could choose who the next vice president can be? >> you'll hear how the vice president and white house counsel and others told donald trump that pence had no such authority. >> you'll hear how pence withstood pressure from president trump both publicly and privately. a pressure campaign that built to a fever pitch with a heated phone call on january 6th. you'll also hear that the president knew there was a violent mob at the capitol when he tweeted at 2:24 p.m. that the vice president did not have the, quote, courage, to do what needed to be done. let me be clear. vice president pence did the right thing that day. h
according to trump. >> hang mike pence. >> hang mike pence. >> bring mike pence. bring mike pence. hang mike pence. >> how did we get to this point? how did we get to the point where president trump's most radical supporters led a violent attack on the capitol and threatened to hang president trump's own vice president? you'll hear from witnesses that donald trump pressured mike pence to adopt a legally and morally bankrupt idea that the vice president could choose who...
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pence's life. and he was suspicious and aides were especially suspicious that perhaps the secret service won't calling the ball. perhaps donald trump through other secret service senior leaders in the white house was calling the ball about removing, and we asking pence away from the capital. he was determined not to do that. he decided, somewhere between, you know, the senate hideaway and the basement limousine, i am not getting in that car, i am not leaving. >> it's so chilling, that reporting, it's incredible. >> carol leonnig, we appreciate. it an in-depth look at someone that we looked earlier. why the committee is increasingly interested in her, and her response for a request to an interview. photos of the two americans in ukraine's, the photo which we can confirm appears to show them hands tied behind their backs, bound held by the russian, back of the truck, it looks like. we will have the latest about what we know about them and now a word of a third american missing in ukraine. they charge
pence's life. and he was suspicious and aides were especially suspicious that perhaps the secret service won't calling the ball. perhaps donald trump through other secret service senior leaders in the white house was calling the ball about removing, and we asking pence away from the capital. he was determined not to do that. he decided, somewhere between, you know, the senate hideaway and the basement limousine, i am not getting in that car, i am not leaving. >> it's so chilling, that...
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pence bring out pence. bring out pence. bring out pence. we bring out pence. matt >> and i tell you, every protester i spoke to as i walked towards the capitol on that day, said to me that they thought that the vice president of the former vice president had the power to overthrow the election when in fact he did not. the committee revealed the new detail, never before seen pictures the action that was needed to keep the vice president safe. >> but usually 4 pm, the secret service had moved vice president pence to the senate chamber to his office across the hall. the noise from the rioters became audible, at which point we recognize that maybe they had gotten into the building. >> then president trump tweeted, mike pence didn't have the courage to do which should have been done to protect our country and our constitution, giving states a chance to certify a corrected set of facts, not the fraudulent or inaccurate ones which they were asked to previously certify. usa demands the truth. we >> bring out pence.
pence bring out pence. bring out pence. bring out pence. we bring out pence. matt >> and i tell you, every protester i spoke to as i walked towards the capitol on that day, said to me that they thought that the vice president of the former vice president had the power to overthrow the election when in fact he did not. the committee revealed the new detail, never before seen pictures the action that was needed to keep the vice president safe. >> but usually 4 pm, the secret service...
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eastman pled the fifth a hundred times. >> the idea of mike pence, as his staff, gets into cars, pence says we're not leaving here, we are going to stay, and i'm going to do my constitutional duty as vice president of the united states. get out of the cars, get back into the capitol. i mean, that's a very moving scene. and good for mike pence. and to see those pictures of him at this loading dock, wherever that was. you mean, this was a moment in american history that could have gone either way. i think that's, you know, so reinforced. i mean, there could have been a lot more deaths. there could have been a constitutional crisis. it was bad enough as it was. but it could have been worse. and mike pence deserves a lot of credit for the resolution was as good, if that's the word, as it turned out to be. >> i was a little surprised. i think it was the first hearing that the evidence came out from members of the committee that -- i think it was liz cheney said that when this question of "hang mike pence" got back to trump, that trump supposedly said, you know, i understand maybe they have
eastman pled the fifth a hundred times. >> the idea of mike pence, as his staff, gets into cars, pence says we're not leaving here, we are going to stay, and i'm going to do my constitutional duty as vice president of the united states. get out of the cars, get back into the capitol. i mean, that's a very moving scene. and good for mike pence. and to see those pictures of him at this loading dock, wherever that was. you mean, this was a moment in american history that could have gone...
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. >> bring out pence. >> hang mike pence. hang mike pence. >> hang mike pence. [ chanting hang mike pence ] >> how did we get to this point? how did we get to the point where president trump's most radical supporters let a violent attack on the capitol and threatened to hang president trump's own vice president. you'll hear from witnesses that donald trump pressured mike pence to adopt illegally and morally bankrupt idea that the vice president could choose who the next president can be. you'll hear about how the vice president, the white house counsel and others told donald trump that the vice president had no such authority, but president trump would not listen. you'll hear how vice president pence withstood an onslaught of pressure from president trump both publicly and privately. a measure pressure campaign that went to a fever pitch with a heated phone call on january 6th. you'll also hear that the president knew there was a violent mob at the capitol when he tweeted that the vice president did not have the quote, courag
. >> bring out pence. >> hang mike pence. hang mike pence. >> hang mike pence. [ chanting hang mike pence ] >> how did we get to this point? how did we get to the point where president trump's most radical supporters let a violent attack on the capitol and threatened to hang president trump's own vice president. you'll hear from witnesses that donald trump pressured mike pence to adopt illegally and morally bankrupt idea that the vice president could choose who the next...
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-- what happened pence didn't do what we wanted >> pence voted against trump. and that's when all this started that's when we start r marched on the capitol. >> it's not going to reject any fraudulent electoral votes. you her it here first, mike pence has betrayed the united states of america. boo. f you, mike pence, he's betrayed this president and the people of united states and we will never, ever forget. >> real simple. pence betrayed us which apparently everybody knew he was going to, and the president mentioned it. like five times when he talked. you can go back and watch president's video. >> this is on capitol? be respectful to him. there's 4 million people coming in. we love the cops. >> it's only a matter of time justice is coming. >> although the president's chief of staff mark meadows refused to testify before this committee, mr. meadow's aid, ben william son and white house deputy press secretary sara matthews tested that mr. meadows went to the dining room nearby the oval office to tell the president about the violence at the capitol before the pr
-- what happened pence didn't do what we wanted >> pence voted against trump. and that's when all this started that's when we start r marched on the capitol. >> it's not going to reject any fraudulent electoral votes. you her it here first, mike pence has betrayed the united states of america. boo. f you, mike pence, he's betrayed this president and the people of united states and we will never, ever forget. >> real simple. pence betrayed us which apparently everybody knew he...
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you worked for mike pence. can you imagine what would have happened in 2001 had vice president gore simply said, no, i disagree with what the supreme court has said about the outcome in florida and i will simply declare myself the president. i mean, that is literally what was being asked of mike pence, declare himself vice president again. i want to have our audience listen again to the vice president's team, some of the members of his team, reacting to donald trump then releasing a statement on january 6th lying about mike pence's believes and saying mike pence believed. >> we are shocked and disappointed because whoever had written and put that statement out, it was categorically untrue. >> i was irritated and expressed displeasure that steven could have put out a statement that misrepresented his viewpoint without consultation. >> olivia, talk about the pressure that was on mike pence who was a partisan supporter of donald trump and the pressure he and his staff and his team was under. >> to your point, he w
you worked for mike pence. can you imagine what would have happened in 2001 had vice president gore simply said, no, i disagree with what the supreme court has said about the outcome in florida and i will simply declare myself the president. i mean, that is literally what was being asked of mike pence, declare himself vice president again. i want to have our audience listen again to the vice president's team, some of the members of his team, reacting to donald trump then releasing a statement...
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pence betrayed us. which apparently everybody knew he was going to and the president mentioned it like five times when he talked. you can go back and watch the president's video. >> this is our capitol. let's be respectful to it. 4 million people coming in, so -- we love the cops. >> only a matter of time. justice is coming. >> earlier cnn spoke with senior political analyst ron brownstein, he said that the fact that both trump and eastman knew the i will lality of their actions yet proceeded anyway could prove important to the u.s. justice department. >> the lawyer for the vice president testified that at a meeting in the white house, john eastman admitted that his scheme was illegal, that it violated the erlector cal count act and yet donald trump continued to pressure the vice president to pursue the scheme. so this goes -- this reinforces the evidence from the first two hearings of bill barr and others telling him that he lost the election. and proceeding down this path anyway. both of them i think
pence betrayed us. which apparently everybody knew he was going to and the president mentioned it like five times when he talked. you can go back and watch the president's video. >> this is our capitol. let's be respectful to it. 4 million people coming in, so -- we love the cops. >> only a matter of time. justice is coming. >> earlier cnn spoke with senior political analyst ron brownstein, he said that the fact that both trump and eastman knew the i will lality of their...
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hang mike pence. hang mike pence. hang mike pence. hang mike pence. hang mike pence. >> this is pence's former chief of staff will not testify in person tomorrow but clips from his video deposition are expected to be played. tonight, in an exclusive interview, short telling our very own wolf blitzer who he believes is responsible for the january 6th violence. >> i want to be clear, do you blame those surrounding the president for giving him bad advise or blame the then president himself? >> i think the buck stops with the president. he has responsibility to listen to advice or discard advice. i also think there were people around the president who i think served him very poorly and i think gave poor advice. >> he's not the only former white house aide who thought the president was listening to wrong people. campaign manager bill stepien said he was on team normal and not rudy giuliani's team that was pushing the election lie. former white house testified about to con sefbtive attorney general east plan the day after january 6th. >> to
hang mike pence. hang mike pence. hang mike pence. hang mike pence. hang mike pence. >> this is pence's former chief of staff will not testify in person tomorrow but clips from his video deposition are expected to be played. tonight, in an exclusive interview, short telling our very own wolf blitzer who he believes is responsible for the january 6th violence. >> i want to be clear, do you blame those surrounding the president for giving him bad advise or blame the then president...
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here's what else the committee said about the danger to mike pence. >> vice president pence and his team were led to a secure location where they stayed for the next four and a half hours, barely missing rioters a few feet away. >> approximately 40 feet, that is all there was. 40 feet between the vice president and the mob. >> mr. attorney, did the committee make the case that trump's actions led to a direct threat to the vp's life? >> certainly. perhaps not the criminally chargeable way, don. but they have been making the case repeatedly that the president -- for instance the first hearing, they played the moment at which the tweet is read 2:26 p.m. the guy on the megaphone is saying, hang mike pence. you know, something that is getting buried today from the judge, the conservative judge that testified today, making the case that this is not just about january 6th, but the underlining causes that led to the kinds of things that were why your question, the unrest and violence has not gone away. and it could affect the 2024 elections if it is not dealt in a strong way. thank god it was a
here's what else the committee said about the danger to mike pence. >> vice president pence and his team were led to a secure location where they stayed for the next four and a half hours, barely missing rioters a few feet away. >> approximately 40 feet, that is all there was. 40 feet between the vice president and the mob. >> mr. attorney, did the committee make the case that trump's actions led to a direct threat to the vp's life? >> certainly. perhaps not the...
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pence didn't do what we wanted. >> pence voted against trump. >> okay. and that's when all this start snd. >> yep. that's when we marched on the capitol. we have been shot at with rubber bullets, tear gassed. >> we just heard that mike pence is not going to eject any fraudulent electoral votes! that's right. you have heard it here first. mike pence has betrayed the united states of america. mike pence has betrayed this president, and he has betrayed the people of the united states, and we will never, ever forget! >> it's frightening. i mean, honestly. alice, i see you shaking your head. you're right. that's the right response. that trump tweet was like pouring gasoline on the fire. do you agree with that? >> absolutely. he just made a horrible situation even worse. while that was going on, we heard testimony today that mike pence was in the safety of the capitol 40 feet away from these protesters who had said that they were more than willing to take his life. he was in there with his family and his staff. i can't get past the optics of mike pence waiting
pence didn't do what we wanted. >> pence voted against trump. >> okay. and that's when all this start snd. >> yep. that's when we marched on the capitol. we have been shot at with rubber bullets, tear gassed. >> we just heard that mike pence is not going to eject any fraudulent electoral votes! that's right. you have heard it here first. mike pence has betrayed the united states of america. mike pence has betrayed this president, and he has betrayed the people of the...
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while pence and mrs. pence waited for any word from trump, well, he was tweeting to the world, lashing out at pence in tweets that were being read aloud by the rioters in real time. >> mike pence didn't have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our country and our constitution, giving states a chance to certify a corrected set of facts. >> we also know that there was a phone call on the morning of january 6th between president trump and vice president pence. now, we did not know what the details of that conversation were. we were all wondering, well, until now because apparently, ivanka trump heard it and she called it heated. and someone else in that room said that she also overheard the man who once famously bragged about grabbing women by their genitalia, he was now calling his own vice president the p-word. plus we have never-before-seen photos from inside the white house as well that day. a lot more on that ahead. they say ignorance may, well, be bliss. but it seems that trump can'
while pence and mrs. pence waited for any word from trump, well, he was tweeting to the world, lashing out at pence in tweets that were being read aloud by the rioters in real time. >> mike pence didn't have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our country and our constitution, giving states a chance to certify a corrected set of facts. >> we also know that there was a phone call on the morning of january 6th between president trump and vice president pence. now,...
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hang mike pence! >> at 2:26 p.m. secret service rushed vice president pence down the stairs. >> approximately 40 feet. that's all there was. 40 feet between the vice president and the mob. a confidential informant from the proud boys told the fbi, the proud boys would have killed mike pence if given a chance. >> joining me now is a member of the january 6th select committee, democratic congressman jamie raskin of maryland. he was the lead impeachment manager during the second impeachment. congressman raskin, welcome back to "meet the press." >> delighted to be with you. >> let's just start with what you believe are the most important takeaways from these hearings this past week? >> donald trump knew the lie was a big lie. they used it also as a big shakedown and rip-off of his supporters to keep money rolling in. usually when a campaign is over and someone has lost, it's very difficult to raise money, but they raised more than $200 million based on that lie. and then there's what i'm calling the big joke. the idea th
hang mike pence! >> at 2:26 p.m. secret service rushed vice president pence down the stairs. >> approximately 40 feet. that's all there was. 40 feet between the vice president and the mob. a confidential informant from the proud boys told the fbi, the proud boys would have killed mike pence if given a chance. >> joining me now is a member of the january 6th select committee, democratic congressman jamie raskin of maryland. he was the lead impeachment manager during the second...
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jacob, how did vice president pence and mrs. pence react to that? >> with frustration. >> mr. jacob, mediately before you and the vice president didn't wear evacuated to a secure location within the capital, you hit send on an email to john eastman, explaining why his legal theory about the vice presidents role was wrong. you ended your email by stating that, quote, thanks to your bowls, it we are now under siege. we will now take a look at that email. doctor jasmyn replied, this is hard to believe, but his reply back to you was the siege is because you and your boss, presumably referring to the vice president of the united states, did not do what was necessary to allow this to be aired in a public way to the american people can see for themselves what happened. mr. jacob, later that day you wrote again to doctor eastman, let's show that email on the screen. in that email, you wrote, and i quote, did you advise the president that in your professional judgment the vice president does not have the power to decide things unilaterally? and you ended that email saying, it does not
jacob, how did vice president pence and mrs. pence react to that? >> with frustration. >> mr. jacob, mediately before you and the vice president didn't wear evacuated to a secure location within the capital, you hit send on an email to john eastman, explaining why his legal theory about the vice presidents role was wrong. you ended your email by stating that, quote, thanks to your bowls, it we are now under siege. we will now take a look at that email. doctor jasmyn replied, this is...
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agree that mike pence has the authority to reject electors, why didn't mike pence immediately put out a statement saying, no this is my position? why did he wait until the next day, that one of the attack on the capital was already underway -- >> yes. i mean, he could've said i want everyone in america including those who are coming to washington tomorrow to support me and the president, i want everybody to be under no illusions. i do not have the power to throughout the election results, nor does any individual american as our forefathers said. and we look forward to seeing you tomorrow, and america forever. but i'm not gonna do that. >> i mean, the chief of staff, calls up the trump guy and complains about it. but why don't you just put out the vice presidential statement immediately? >> yes, a very good point. -- >> and they're not showing us every single thing they've obtained and every question and answer with everyone. and maybe, the congressman schiff could tell us that they did have some exchanges about why did the vice president didn't make a statement that they. they might h
agree that mike pence has the authority to reject electors, why didn't mike pence immediately put out a statement saying, no this is my position? why did he wait until the next day, that one of the attack on the capital was already underway -- >> yes. i mean, he could've said i want everyone in america including those who are coming to washington tomorrow to support me and the president, i want everybody to be under no illusions. i do not have the power to throughout the election results,...
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. >> hang mike pence. >> hang mike pence! hang mike pence! hang mike pence! >> this was real. this is the evidence. this has nothing to do with partisanship or how one might feel about how vice president pence conducted himself in government, his view, his ideology. that sometimes gets lost partly because of right wing lies. this was about america. a threat to the vice president pushed and organized by the president, and we're learning new details that people need to understand for our society and future, how close these rioters and criminals and would-be indicted insurrectionists came to locate pence as they plotted his assassination during what you have to remember then, no one knew how it would end, how long it would go, how bad it would get. as they got that close to him during that insurrection. >> approximately 40 feet. that's all there was. 40 feet between the vice president and the mob. mr. jacob, you were there. seeing that for the first time. does that surprise you see how close the mob was to the evacuation route that you took? the 40 feet is the distance from me to
. >> hang mike pence. >> hang mike pence! hang mike pence! hang mike pence! >> this was real. this is the evidence. this has nothing to do with partisanship or how one might feel about how vice president pence conducted himself in government, his view, his ideology. that sometimes gets lost partly because of right wing lies. this was about america. a threat to the vice president pushed and organized by the president, and we're learning new details that people need to...
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>> bring out pence! >> hang mike pence, hang mike pence! hang mike pence! [noise] >> hang mike pence, that's what they were chanting. today's star witnesses, two key republicans, pence's former white house counsel, greg jacob, and former federal judge, michael luttig, their testimony focused on trump's lawyer, john eastman and his scheme to defy the electoral count act and reverse joe biden's victory. trump was apparently 100% behind eastman's plan, despite being informed over and over that the plan was illegal. greg jacob went on to testify that even eastman himself admitted the plot was against the law. >> when i pressed him on the point, i said, john, if the vice president did what you are asking him to do, we would lose 9-0 in the supreme court, wouldn't we? and he initially started, well, i think we would lose only 7 to 2. but after some further discussion, he acknowledged, yeah, you are right, we would lose 9 to nothing. >> dr. eastman admit in front of the president that his proposal would violate the electoral count act? >> mr. eastman acknowledge t
>> bring out pence! >> hang mike pence, hang mike pence! hang mike pence! [noise] >> hang mike pence, that's what they were chanting. today's star witnesses, two key republicans, pence's former white house counsel, greg jacob, and former federal judge, michael luttig, their testimony focused on trump's lawyer, john eastman and his scheme to defy the electoral count act and reverse joe biden's victory. trump was apparently 100% behind eastman's plan, despite being informed over...
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jacob, how did vice president pence and mrs. pence react to that? >> with frustration. >> mr. jacob, mediately before you and the vice president didn't wear evacuated to a secure location within the capital, you hit send on an email to john eastman, explaining why his legal theory about the vice presidents role was wrong. you ended your email by stating that, quote, thanks to your bowls, it we are now under siege. we will now take a look at that email. doctor jasmyn replied, this is hard to believe, but his reply back to you was the siege is because you and your boss, presumably referring to the vice president of the united states, did not do what was necessary to allow this to be aired in a public way to the american people can see for themselves what happened. mr. jacob, later that day you wrote again to doctor eastman, let's show that email on the screen. in that email, you wrote, and i quote, did you advise the president that in your professional judgment the vice president does not have the power to decide things unilaterally? and you ended that email saying, it does not
jacob, how did vice president pence and mrs. pence react to that? >> with frustration. >> mr. jacob, mediately before you and the vice president didn't wear evacuated to a secure location within the capital, you hit send on an email to john eastman, explaining why his legal theory about the vice presidents role was wrong. you ended your email by stating that, quote, thanks to your bowls, it we are now under siege. we will now take a look at that email. doctor jasmyn replied, this is...
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if we had a chance to kill mike pence, we would have killed mike pence. and of course they would have had the opportunity to do it because they were the first ones to breach the per imer of the capitol. >> and they went into the capitol in military stacks, wearing tactical gear. and the proud boys took the president of the united states on the debate stage to stand back and stand by, as an order to get ready for january 6. let's bring in capitol hill correspondent ali vitali and reporter for the guardian hugo lowell. good morning to you both. ali, i'll start with you on capitol hill. what is the reaction from members outside of the committee both democrat and republican by the way to the evidence we've seen over the last week or so? >> yeah, look, willie, especially yesterday, that was a stunning round of testimony from the witnesses. of course with the committee was able to offer in terms of new materials that we had never seen before. and i think that for many of the people watching, and who have been following this, including myself, this was one of th
if we had a chance to kill mike pence, we would have killed mike pence. and of course they would have had the opportunity to do it because they were the first ones to breach the per imer of the capitol. >> and they went into the capitol in military stacks, wearing tactical gear. and the proud boys took the president of the united states on the debate stage to stand back and stand by, as an order to get ready for january 6. let's bring in capitol hill correspondent ali vitali and reporter...
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pence might deserve it. again, former president trump has denied that, but clearly mark short, who is the chief of staff, the vice president's office thought there could be a threat, jonathan. >> i have a lot of respect for mark short and we were all horrified when we heard about the threats and the alleged response by president trump. some of his people have said that was not a literal statement on his part. but it's clearly as reckless a statement as the earlier statements on the rally. pence was a profile of courage, he was the redeeming moment. and many of these lawyers can take credit for holding the line on the rule of law. >> john: just to what you said there, look at michael luttig's written statement, he said there were many cowards on the battle field january 6th, the vice president, sandra, was not among them. >> sandra: andy mccarthy, a final thought from you. >> i think, you know, can they make a criminal case. i think that is continuing. >> john: we still have a little bit of time. martha, you
pence might deserve it. again, former president trump has denied that, but clearly mark short, who is the chief of staff, the vice president's office thought there could be a threat, jonathan. >> i have a lot of respect for mark short and we were all horrified when we heard about the threats and the alleged response by president trump. some of his people have said that was not a literal statement on his part. but it's clearly as reckless a statement as the earlier statements on the rally....
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i'm hearing reports that the pence caved. if pence caved, we're going to drive them through the streets. you politicians are going to get jumped in the streets. >> i guess the hope is, there such a show of force here that pence will decide to -- [inaudible] [noise] [inaudible] >> how do we get to this point? how do we get to the point where president trump's most radical supporters led a violent attack on the capital and threatened to hang president trump's own vice president? you'll hear from witnesses that donald trump pressured mike pence to adopt a legally and morally bankrupt idea that the vice president could choose who the next president could be. you'll hear about how the vice president, white house counsel, and others told donald trump that the vice president had no such authority. the president trump would not listen. you hear how vice president pence with an onslaught of pressure from president trump but publicly and privately. the pressure campaign that built to a fever pitch with a heated phone call on january 6t
i'm hearing reports that the pence caved. if pence caved, we're going to drive them through the streets. you politicians are going to get jumped in the streets. >> i guess the hope is, there such a show of force here that pence will decide to -- [inaudible] [noise] [inaudible] >> how do we get to this point? how do we get to the point where president trump's most radical supporters led a violent attack on the capital and threatened to hang president trump's own vice president?...
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hang mike pence. hang mike pence. hang mike pence. hang mike pence. >> pence's former chief of staff will not testify in person. but clips from his video deposition are expected to be played. tonight, in a short, telling wolf blitzer, who he believes is ultimately responsible for the january 6th violence. >> well, to be clear, do you blame those surrounding the president for giving him bad advice? or do you blame the then-president himself? >> i think ultimately the buck stops with the president. he has the ability to listen to advice or discard advice. there were people around the president that served him very poorly and i think gave poor advice. >> re >> he is not the only former trump white house aide that thought the president was listening to the wrong people. bill steppian said he was on team normal and not rudy giuliani's team that was pushing the election lie. and eric hershman gave to john eastman the day after january 6th. >> i only want to hear two words coming out of your mouth from now on -- orderly tran
hang mike pence. hang mike pence. hang mike pence. hang mike pence. >> pence's former chief of staff will not testify in person. but clips from his video deposition are expected to be played. tonight, in a short, telling wolf blitzer, who he believes is ultimately responsible for the january 6th violence. >> well, to be clear, do you blame those surrounding the president for giving him bad advice? or do you blame the then-president himself? >> i think ultimately the buck stops...