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rosen, after mr. barr announced his resignation, did donald trump continue to demand that the department of justice investigate his claims of election fraud? >> yes, he asserted that he thought the justice department had not done enough. >> thank you. from the time you took over for attorney general barr until january 3rd, how often did president trump contact you or the department, to push allegations of election fraud? >> between december 23rd in january 3rd the president either called me or met with me virtually every day, with one or two exceptions, like christmas day before the, because it had been announced that i would be the acting attorney general before the date but i did, the president had asked, rich donahue and i go over and meet with him, i believe on december 15th, as well. after we had some of these meetings and conversations with the president, what things did the president raise with you. >> so the common element to all of this was the president expressing his dissatisfaction that th
rosen, after mr. barr announced his resignation, did donald trump continue to demand that the department of justice investigate his claims of election fraud? >> yes, he asserted that he thought the justice department had not done enough. >> thank you. from the time you took over for attorney general barr until january 3rd, how often did president trump contact you or the department, to push allegations of election fraud? >> between december 23rd in january 3rd the president...
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rosen, after mr. barr announced his resignation, did donald trump continue to demand that the department of justice investigate his claims of election fraud? >> yes. he asserted that he thought the justice department had not done enough. >> thank you. from the time you took over from attorney general barr until january 3, how often did president trump contact you or the department to push allegations of election fraud? >> so between december 23 and january 3, the president either called me or met with me virtually every day with one or two exceptions like christmas day. before that because it had been announced that i would become the acting attorney general before the date i did, the president had asked that rich donoghue and i go over and meet with him, i believe, december 15 as well. >> so after you had some of these meetings and conversations with the president, what things did the president raise with you? >> so the common element of all of this was the president expressing his dissatisfaction at
rosen, after mr. barr announced his resignation, did donald trump continue to demand that the department of justice investigate his claims of election fraud? >> yes. he asserted that he thought the justice department had not done enough. >> thank you. from the time you took over from attorney general barr until january 3, how often did president trump contact you or the department to push allegations of election fraud? >> so between december 23 and january 3, the president...
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rosen, after mr. barr announced his resignation, did donald trump continue to demand that the department of justice investigate his claims of election fraud? >> yes, he asserted that he thought the justice department had not done enough. >> thank you. from the time you took over for attorney general barr until january 3rd, how often did president trump contact you or the department, to push allegations of election fraud? >> between december 23rd in january 3rd the president either called me or met with me virtually every day, with one or two exceptions, like christmas day before the, because it had been announced that i would be the acting attorney general before the date but i did, the president had asked, rich donahue and i go over and meet with him, i believe on december 15th, as well. after we had some of these meetings and conversations with the president, what things did the president raise with you. >> so the common element to all of this was the president expressing his dissatisfaction that th
rosen, after mr. barr announced his resignation, did donald trump continue to demand that the department of justice investigate his claims of election fraud? >> yes, he asserted that he thought the justice department had not done enough. >> thank you. from the time you took over for attorney general barr until january 3rd, how often did president trump contact you or the department, to push allegations of election fraud? >> between december 23rd in january 3rd the president...
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rosen, after mr. barr announced his resignations, did donald trump continue to demand that the department of justice continue t nvaimsf election fraud? >> yes, he -- he, uh, asserted that he thought the justice department had not done enough. >> thank you. from the time you t over from attorney general barr, until january 3, how often did president trump contact you or the department to push allegations of election fraud? >> so between december 23 and january 3, the president either called me or met with me virtually every day, with one or two exceptions, like christmas day. and before that, because it had been announced i would become the acting attorney general the day before i actually did, the president had asked that rich dodonohue and i meet with him on september 15 as well. >> you had the meetings with the president, what things did the president raise with you? >> so the common element of all of this was the president expressing his dissatisfaction that the justice department, in his view, had
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rosen. asked if i would reconsider, i flatly refused. said i would not be giving any special treatment to giuliani or any of his witnesses. he puts it in quotes. reaffirmed yet again i will not talk to giuliani about any of this. >> one thing i want to underline. these are people who presumably supported donald trump. these are trump officials in trump's justice department. these aren't rinos or liberal democrats. these aren't bureaucrats. trump appointed these people. >> when trump announced bill barr's resignation on twitter, he praised both of them. he said they were amazing, wonderful people. so, trump -- yes. trump elevated them and praised them. so why is jeffrey rosen the attorney general at this point? acting attorney general is his title but he's the top law enforcement. he's the attorney general because, as bill barr told the committee, i couldn't take it anymore. >> i did not agree with the idea of saying the election was stolen and putting out this stuff, which i told the preside
rosen. asked if i would reconsider, i flatly refused. said i would not be giving any special treatment to giuliani or any of his witnesses. he puts it in quotes. reaffirmed yet again i will not talk to giuliani about any of this. >> one thing i want to underline. these are people who presumably supported donald trump. these are trump officials in trump's justice department. these aren't rinos or liberal democrats. these aren't bureaucrats. trump appointed these people. >> when trump...
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rosen during a january 2 meeting with mr. clark, did you confronted him again about his contact with the president and can you describe that? >> so at this point, mr. clark had told us that the president had asked him to consider whether he would be willing to replace me as supposedly on a timetable by monday, the 4th. so i had told mr. clark i thought he was making a colossal error in judgment, but i also hoped to persuade him to be more rationale and to understand what we had understood. there's not a factual basis for the fraud a sure shuns being made. so an't this meeting mr. donoghue and i met with mr. clark. i guess my hopes were disappointed and that mr. clark continued to express the view that he thought there was fraud even though he had not been a participant in the department's review of that. and that he was dissatisfied that we knew what we were doing. so but he had acknowledged that he had had a further meeting or phone calls or what, but further discussion with the president despite having a week earlier said i
rosen during a january 2 meeting with mr. clark, did you confronted him again about his contact with the president and can you describe that? >> so at this point, mr. clark had told us that the president had asked him to consider whether he would be willing to replace me as supposedly on a timetable by monday, the 4th. so i had told mr. clark i thought he was making a colossal error in judgment, but i also hoped to persuade him to be more rationale and to understand what we had...
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rosen said to mr. trump, "doj can't and won't snap its fingers and change the outcome of the election. how did the president respond to that? >> he responded quickly and said, essentially, that is not what i'm asking you to do. i'm asking you to say it was corrupt and leave the rest to us mean the congressman. amy: many of trump's efforts to push the department of justice involved a lower-level doj attorney named jeffrey clark who trump considered naming attorney general. on wednesday morning, the fbi raided clark's home. meanwhile, the january 6 committee revealed six members of congress who supported trump's coup attempt sought positional pardons. mo brooks of alabama, matt gaetz of florida, louie gohmert of texas, marjorie taylor greene of georgia, scott perry of pennsylvania, and andy biggs of arizona. we will have more on the january 6 hearing later in the program. ukrainian officials have ordered troops to withdraw from the besieged eastern city of severodonetsk which has been the site of weeks o
rosen said to mr. trump, "doj can't and won't snap its fingers and change the outcome of the election. how did the president respond to that? >> he responded quickly and said, essentially, that is not what i'm asking you to do. i'm asking you to say it was corrupt and leave the rest to us mean the congressman. amy: many of trump's efforts to push the department of justice involved a lower-level doj attorney named jeffrey clark who trump considered naming attorney general. on...
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rosen, mr. donoghue and mr. engel were preparing for that meeting at the white house, jeff clark and the president where in constant communication beginning at 7 am. white house call logs obtained by the committee show that by four 90 pm on january 3rd, the white house had already begun as far as the white house was concerned, mr. clark was already at the top of the justice department. two hours later, doj leadership arrived at the white house. the select committee interviewed every person who was inside the room, what's inside the room during this sunday evening oval office meeting. mr. cipollone told the committee that he was, quote, unmistakably angry during the meeting and that he along with eric harshman and mr. donahue, quote, forcefully challenged mr. clock to produce evidence of election fraud theories. mr. rosen, can you describe how that meeting started? >> yes. so after some preliminaries -- so mr. meadows had assured us all in and then he left so mr. cipollone did some introductions and after some pr
rosen, mr. donoghue and mr. engel were preparing for that meeting at the white house, jeff clark and the president where in constant communication beginning at 7 am. white house call logs obtained by the committee show that by four 90 pm on january 3rd, the white house had already begun as far as the white house was concerned, mr. clark was already at the top of the justice department. two hours later, doj leadership arrived at the white house. the select committee interviewed every person who...
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rosen just discussed? >> it is critical that they conduct their investigations free from either the reality or any proposed political interference. people can get in trouble if people in the white house are speaking with people within the department. that is why the purpose of these policies is to keep these communications as in frequent, and at the highest levels, as possible. just to make sure that people who might be less careful about it, who may not understand these implications, such as mister clerk, do not run afoul of those content policies. >> thank you. the select committee conducted an informal interview with the white house counsel pat sub lonely and his deputy pat film in. and yet has agreed to sit for transcribed or videotaped interviews. but -- they intervened when he heard that mr. clark was meeting with the president without his knowledge, which was strictly against white house policy. mr. philbin, like mr. rosen, told mr. clark to stand down, and he did not. on the same day, acting attorn
rosen just discussed? >> it is critical that they conduct their investigations free from either the reality or any proposed political interference. people can get in trouble if people in the white house are speaking with people within the department. that is why the purpose of these policies is to keep these communications as in frequent, and at the highest levels, as possible. just to make sure that people who might be less careful about it, who may not understand these implications,...
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rosen said to mr. trump, quote, doj can't and won't snap its fingers and change the outcome of the election. how did the president respond to that, sir? >> he was responded very quickly and said essentially, that's not what i'm asking you to do. what i'm just asking you to do is just say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the republican congressmen. >> so let's now put up the notes where you quote the president. as you're speaking to that, you said the president said, just say the election was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the republican congressmen. so, mr. donoghue, that's a direct quote from president trump, correct? >> that's an exact quote from the president, yes. >> perhaps the most dramatic moment of the testimony was what donoghue later said about a december 2020 white house meeting where he tried to explain to donald trump in great detail what would happen if trump removed then acting attorney general jeffrey rosen and tried to install jeffrey clark as attorney general to push
rosen said to mr. trump, quote, doj can't and won't snap its fingers and change the outcome of the election. how did the president respond to that, sir? >> he was responded very quickly and said essentially, that's not what i'm asking you to do. what i'm just asking you to do is just say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the republican congressmen. >> so let's now put up the notes where you quote the president. as you're speaking to that, you said the president said, just...
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rosen reportedly told the senate judiciary committee that he and clark clashed after rosen refused to sign on to a letter to georgia lawmakers urging them to send congress an alternate slate of electors who would support trump. the following day, just three days before the january 6th attack on the capitol, rosen told the committee that clark said the president offered him rosen's job and that he would take it. that rosen would be replaced in days and the justice department could then, quote, chart a different path. rosen says he told clark this, i don't get to be fired by someone who works for me. rosen says, he then requested to meet with trump. soon after, rosen, clark and then acting deputy attorney general richard donohue were in the oval office. and, according to donahue's house deposition, clark told trump that if he became attorney general, he would, quote, conduct real investigations that would, in his view, uncover widespread fraud. the post reports trump repeatedly went after rosen and donahue, saying they had not adequately pursued voter fraud allegations. quote, you two h
rosen reportedly told the senate judiciary committee that he and clark clashed after rosen refused to sign on to a letter to georgia lawmakers urging them to send congress an alternate slate of electors who would support trump. the following day, just three days before the january 6th attack on the capitol, rosen told the committee that clark said the president offered him rosen's job and that he would take it. that rosen would be replaced in days and the justice department could then, quote,...
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rosen. claimant president trump rushed back early from mar-a-lago on december 21st and called an emergency meeting with the department leadership. here is mr. donahue describing the last-minute meeting held at the white house on new year's eve. ear's eve. >> the president was a little more agitated than he had been on the meeting in the meeting on the 15th he discussed the variety of election matters. he did say this sounds like the kind of thing that we want to appoint a special counsel. there was a point at which the president said something about i'm glad you guys sees the machine. >> the president asked you to seize voting machines from state governments. what was your response that request? >> we had seen nothing improper with regard to the voting machines i told them that the real experts had been that she dhs and they had reached us that they had looked at it and that there was nothing wrong with the voting machines so, that was not something that is appropriate to do. they would be n
rosen. claimant president trump rushed back early from mar-a-lago on december 21st and called an emergency meeting with the department leadership. here is mr. donahue describing the last-minute meeting held at the white house on new year's eve. ear's eve. >> the president was a little more agitated than he had been on the meeting in the meeting on the 15th he discussed the variety of election matters. he did say this sounds like the kind of thing that we want to appoint a special counsel....
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there was a conversation that rosen recounts where he said -- the president told rosen, you are no going to do anything about this, sending the fraudulent fraud letter and rosen says, that is correct because constitutionally it is required not to do anything. that is, if we do what you are asking us to do we are violating the law. and yet the president insisted and was going to install clark whose house yesterday was raided by the fbi as the attorney general. pretty stunning stuff. judy: stunning. and andrea, you have to to come away from listening to this deeply struck by how close the country came to this happening. former president trump was on the verge, there was in fact some informal actions taken of naming jeffrey clark completely unqualified as far as we know to be the attorney general. reporter: absolutely. in fact representative kinsinger at one point put up a screenshot of a series of communications between mr. clark and former president trump. you could see the president's calendar that day, before this meeting, clark is already described on white house materials as the actin
there was a conversation that rosen recounts where he said -- the president told rosen, you are no going to do anything about this, sending the fraudulent fraud letter and rosen says, that is correct because constitutionally it is required not to do anything. that is, if we do what you are asking us to do we are violating the law. and yet the president insisted and was going to install clark whose house yesterday was raided by the fbi as the attorney general. pretty stunning stuff. judy:...
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rosen didn't even know who he was. but we know that scott perry, the pennsylvania congressman, was among the people who helped connect trump with jeffrey clark. trump didn't really know him. and by the way, i made a miscake. clark did work with rosen. they knew each other. it wasn't somebody that was well known in the department as somebody who would be a heavy hitter who could get involved -- >> he was a willing yes man. that's who he was. >> and trump said oh, there might be someone with a credential. we're talking about environment tall lawyers. this is a huge division that's revered. the idea that he was just a yes man, that trump -- >> but who recruited him is the question? it wasn't donald trump. that's what they're trying to answer. >> we need a break. up next, more from the never before seen trump documentary foot footage. you'll hear from ivanka trump on her thoughts on the vote count. some like a little comfort, to balance out the risk.k. others want immediate gratification... and long-term gratification,too.
rosen didn't even know who he was. but we know that scott perry, the pennsylvania congressman, was among the people who helped connect trump with jeffrey clark. trump didn't really know him. and by the way, i made a miscake. clark did work with rosen. they knew each other. it wasn't somebody that was well known in the department as somebody who would be a heavy hitter who could get involved -- >> he was a willing yes man. that's who he was. >> and trump said oh, there might be...
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there was a conversation that rosen recounts where he says -- the president says to rosen, you aren't going to do anything about this, sending the fraud letter, this fraudulent fraud letter. and rosen says to him, that's correct, because, constitutionally, it's required not to do anything. that is, if we do what you ask us to do, if we do what you ask us to do, we are violating the law. and yet the president insisted, and he was going to install clark, whose house yesterday was raided by the fbi. judy: that's right. michael: -- as the attorney general. pretty stunning stuff. judy: stunning. and, andrea bernstein, i think, again, you have to come away from listening to all this deeply struck by how close the country came to this happening, that the president, former president trump, was on the verge,n fact, there was some informal actions taken of naming jeffrey clark, completely unqualified, as far as we know, to be the attorney general. andrea: absolutely. in fact, representative kinzinger at one point put up a screen shot of a series of communications between mr. clark and former pr
there was a conversation that rosen recounts where he says -- the president says to rosen, you aren't going to do anything about this, sending the fraud letter, this fraudulent fraud letter. and rosen says to him, that's correct, because, constitutionally, it's required not to do anything. that is, if we do what you ask us to do, if we do what you ask us to do, we are violating the law. and yet the president insisted, and he was going to install clark, whose house yesterday was raided by the...
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rosen said to mr. trump, quote, doj can't and won't snap its fingers and change the outcome of the election. how did the president respond to that, sir? >> he responded very quickly and said, essentially, that's not what i'm asking you to do. what i'm just asking you to do was say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the rest of the republican congressmen >> say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the rest of the republican congressmen as january 6th approached, rosen and donoghue testified president trump grew more and more agitated the white house was pushing them to investigate an outlandish conspiracy theory from the internet that italian satellites switched the votes over to biden. rosen and donoghue said president trump wanted a special counsel to investigate, one of his cronies, and wanting to seize machines from states, something they refused to do >> we had seen nothing improper with regard to the voting machines, and i told him that the real experts of that had been at dhs, and
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from left to right here, stephen engel, formally legal counsel at the department of justice, jeffrey rosen, who trump appointed, and former acting deputy attorney general richard donahue. all pointed by the president himself. all pushing back against what the president wanted them to do. and tonight here, the testimony under oath, the members of congress who pushed the president's false claims even though the doj told the president they were not true, the members who then requested pardons after january 6th. one white house lawyer saying even nixon didn't issue pardons this broad. rachel scott on the requests for pardons tonight, but first, our chief washington correspondent jonathan karl on the hill leading us off again tonight. >> reporter: tonight, top officials in the trump justice department describe the immense pressure donald trump put on them to use the power of their department to help overturn the presidential election. after attorney general bill barr, who had told trump there was no election fraud, resigned in late december 2020, trump put pressure on his replacement, jeffrey r
from left to right here, stephen engel, formally legal counsel at the department of justice, jeffrey rosen, who trump appointed, and former acting deputy attorney general richard donahue. all pointed by the president himself. all pushing back against what the president wanted them to do. and tonight here, the testimony under oath, the members of congress who pushed the president's false claims even though the doj told the president they were not true, the members who then requested pardons...
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rosen reportedly told the senate judiciary committee that he and clark clashed after rosen refused to sign on to a letter to georgia lawmakers urging them to send to congress an alternate slate of electors supporting trump. the following day, just three days before the january 6 attack on the capitol, rosen told the committee, clark said the president offered him rosen's job and that he would take it. rosen would be replaced in days. and the justice department would, quote, chart a different path. rosen says he told clark, quote, i don't get to be fired by someone who works for me. rosen says he then requested to meet with trump. soon after, rosen, clark and then acting attorney general richard donoghue were in the oval office. according to the deposition, trump told clarkful he became attorney general he would conduct real investigation that would in his view uncover widespread fraud. the "post" reports that they repeatedly said, you two haven't done anything. you two don't care. you haven't taken appropriate action. everyone tells me i should fire you. well, suppose i do this. trump
rosen reportedly told the senate judiciary committee that he and clark clashed after rosen refused to sign on to a letter to georgia lawmakers urging them to send to congress an alternate slate of electors supporting trump. the following day, just three days before the january 6 attack on the capitol, rosen told the committee, clark said the president offered him rosen's job and that he would take it. rosen would be replaced in days. and the justice department would, quote, chart a different...
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including jeffrey rosen. he plans to say trump and allies never produced any proof of widespread election fraud and rosen refused to let trump make the justice department co-conspirators. making public statements he wanted the justice department to lie about the 2020 outcome. and rosen says that view was wrong then and is wrong today. that is his testimony. let's get more now from sara murray. a very important day as the committee tries to show trump asked peeven the justice department to help him cheat. >> it's important. rosen is an important witness. he and his colleagues at the justice department had to stand up to donald trump's efforts to try to use the justy department to try to investigate his baseless claims of fraud and try to overturn the results. rosen was the one donald trump wanted to push aside so he could install jeffrey clark. of course we're going to be watching his testimony closely today. the other thing that we are going to be looking for is any mention of these republican lawmakers who m
including jeffrey rosen. he plans to say trump and allies never produced any proof of widespread election fraud and rosen refused to let trump make the justice department co-conspirators. making public statements he wanted the justice department to lie about the 2020 outcome. and rosen says that view was wrong then and is wrong today. that is his testimony. let's get more now from sara murray. a very important day as the committee tries to show trump asked peeven the justice department to help...
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rosen, after mr. barr announced his resignation, did donald trump continue to demand that the department of justice investigate his claims of election fraud? >> yes. he asserted that he thought the justice department had not done enough. >> thank you. from the time you took over from attorney general barr, until january 3rd, how often did president trump contact you or the department to push allegations of election fraud? >> so between december 23rd and january 3rd, the president either called me or met with me virtually every day, with one or two exceptions, like christmas day. and before that, because i had been announced that i would become the acting attorney general before the day i actually did, the president had asked that our rich donoghue and i go over and meet with him, i believe, on december 15th as well. >> so after you had some of these meetings and conversations with the president, what things did the president raise with you? >> so, the common element of all of this was the president ex
rosen, after mr. barr announced his resignation, did donald trump continue to demand that the department of justice investigate his claims of election fraud? >> yes. he asserted that he thought the justice department had not done enough. >> thank you. from the time you took over from attorney general barr, until january 3rd, how often did president trump contact you or the department to push allegations of election fraud? >> so between december 23rd and january 3rd, the...
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rosen said to mr. trump, quote, doj can't and won't snap his fingers and change the outcome of the election. how did the president respond to that? >> he responded very quickly, and said, essentially, that is not what i'm asking you to do. what i am asking you to do is just say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me on the republican congressman. >> that was former acting deputy attorney general richard donahue testing today during the presidential transmission. donahue said donahue urged him and another top justice department official to just declare, that the clancy 2020 election was corrupt and leave the rest to him. someone who knows firsthand, former legal counsel to democrats during trump's first impeachment, herman isan. what does that say to you, do you think about the former president intends. >> it shows a disregard for the truth, jake. when you say, just declare it is corrupt, and leave it to me in the republican congressman. we learned that the republican congressmen were so concerned abou
rosen said to mr. trump, quote, doj can't and won't snap his fingers and change the outcome of the election. how did the president respond to that? >> he responded very quickly, and said, essentially, that is not what i'm asking you to do. what i am asking you to do is just say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me on the republican congressman. >> that was former acting deputy attorney general richard donahue testing today during the presidential transmission. donahue said...
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rosen said to mr. trump, quote, doj can't and won't snap its fingers and change the outcome of the election. how did the president respond to that, sir? >> he responded very quickly, and said, essentially, that's not what i'm asking you to do. what i'm just asking you to do is just say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the republican congressmen. >> all right. testimony from yesterday's january 6th committee. detailing donald trump's effort to get the justice department to ail firm his false election claims. welcome back to "morning joe." it is friday, june 24th, and with us, we have host and executive producer of the circus on show time, msnbc national affairs analyst john heilemann, and political columnist at the conservative web site, the bulwark, amanda carpenter joins us this morning. good to have you both with us . >> as we said at the top of the last hour, really extraordinary compelling evidence yesterday. i'm not exactly sure what i was expecting from the january 6th committee or wha
rosen said to mr. trump, quote, doj can't and won't snap its fingers and change the outcome of the election. how did the president respond to that, sir? >> he responded very quickly, and said, essentially, that's not what i'm asking you to do. what i'm just asking you to do is just say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the republican congressmen. >> all right. testimony from yesterday's january 6th committee. detailing donald trump's effort to get the justice department to...
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-- m, jeff rosen with jeff clark, what do you do? >> we know the men before us did the right thing but think about what happens at the justice officials make a different decision and bow to the pressure ? wh does that do to us as a democracy? imagine a future whether presidents can screen applicants with one question, are you loyal to meet to the constition and it would not take long to find people to pledge their loyalty to the man. we know many of president trump's vocal supporters what it than just this -- wanted the justice department too whatever he asked as long as he stayed in power. they post as it loudly -- protested loudly. >> we have boxed be hearings taking place. that is the fit hearing underway looking into the january 6 -- they say they will have new evidence that they will present today to the committee. do say -- do narrator: funding for this presentation of this program is provided by... narrator: financial services firm, raymond james. narrator: funding was also provided by, the freeman foundation. by judy and pete
-- m, jeff rosen with jeff clark, what do you do? >> we know the men before us did the right thing but think about what happens at the justice officials make a different decision and bow to the pressure ? wh does that do to us as a democracy? imagine a future whether presidents can screen applicants with one question, are you loyal to meet to the constition and it would not take long to find people to pledge their loyalty to the man. we know many of president trump's vocal supporters what...
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rosen and mr. donahue, talking about jeffrey, clark the thing that came through loud and clear really, through by the english, was way nobody they thought he was. this is no mastermind, this is the guy who, in the trump administration, was put in charge of the environmental prosecutions. his job was to be the main tech repairman and do nothing at all. so, the shock from these folks that this guy would be thinking about it being attorney was completely stunning. setting aside all the awfulness and illegality of what he was proposing and how he was going to do it, he just was not the guy. so, that alone, i think, is reason to keep looking and as you look around him, you see this guy, can klukowski, who is helping in the department of justice. you see eastman with the theory behind the letter. you see scott perry, who seems to be his network or, with the white house, and when you look at that crowd. you see evidence of criminality and evidence of awareness of criminality, abounding. i think clark has
rosen and mr. donahue, talking about jeffrey, clark the thing that came through loud and clear really, through by the english, was way nobody they thought he was. this is no mastermind, this is the guy who, in the trump administration, was put in charge of the environmental prosecutions. his job was to be the main tech repairman and do nothing at all. so, the shock from these folks that this guy would be thinking about it being attorney was completely stunning. setting aside all the awfulness...
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rosen's job. as the head of the d.o.j. that led to-- let's say, a tense meeting in the oval office, which the committee illustrated with some cutting-edge graphics. look at those pale, translucent bodies. they cloned mike pence! ( laughter ) at the meeting, donoghue expressed why he had doubts that clark was the man for the job: >> i made the point that jeff clark is not even competent to serve as the attorney general. he has never been a criminal attorney, he has never conducted a criminal investigation in his life. and he kind of retorted by saying, "well, i have done a lot of very complicated appeals, and civil litigation, and environmental litigation, and things like that." and i said, "that is right. you are an environmental lawyer. how about you go back to your office, and we will call you when there is an oil spill?" ( audience reacts ) >> stephen: oh, damn! this is the department of justice and you just got served! "hey, jeff! why don't you go screw a protected otter, you grass-hole. isn't
rosen's job. as the head of the d.o.j. that led to-- let's say, a tense meeting in the oval office, which the committee illustrated with some cutting-edge graphics. look at those pale, translucent bodies. they cloned mike pence! ( laughter ) at the meeting, donoghue expressed why he had doubts that clark was the man for the job: >> i made the point that jeff clark is not even competent to serve as the attorney general. he has never been a criminal attorney, he has never conducted a...
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rosen said to mr. trump, quote, doj can't and won't snap its fingers and change the outcome of the election. how did the president respond to that, sir? >> he responded very quickly and said, essentially, that's not what i'm asking you to do. what i'm just asking you to do is just say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the republican congressmen. >> that was former acting attorney general richard donahue testifying today during the presidential transition. donahue says the former president urged him and another top justice department official to just declare that the 2020 election was corrupt and leave the rest to him and a bunch of republican congressmen. joining us now, someone who knows firsthand the significance of these kinds of hearings, former special counsel to house democrats during trump's first impeachment, normanize b. norman, thanks for joining us. what does that statement convey to you, do you think, about the former president's intent? >> jake, thanks for having me. it shows a d
rosen said to mr. trump, quote, doj can't and won't snap its fingers and change the outcome of the election. how did the president respond to that, sir? >> he responded very quickly and said, essentially, that's not what i'm asking you to do. what i'm just asking you to do is just say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the republican congressmen. >> that was former acting attorney general richard donahue testifying today during the presidential transition. donahue says the...
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rosen said to mr. trump, quote, doj can't and won't snap its fingers and change the outcome of the location. how did the president respond to that, sir? >> he responded very quickly, and said essentially that's not what i am asking you to do. what i am just asking you to do is just say it was corrupt, and leave the rest to me and the republican congressmen. >> reporter: and when it became clear that they would not do trump's bidding, the former-president zeroed in on someone at doj who would. this little-known environmental attorney named jeffrey clark. in fact, the proposition of him taking over, replacing jeff rossen as acting attorney general became so real that apparently according to what the committee showed today, um, on january 3rd he was being referenced as the acting-attorney general in the phone calls between clark and the white house on that day. here is what the former-doj officials had to say about clark, and his qualifications or lack thereof for that role. >> i made the point that jeff
rosen said to mr. trump, quote, doj can't and won't snap its fingers and change the outcome of the location. how did the president respond to that, sir? >> he responded very quickly, and said essentially that's not what i am asking you to do. what i am just asking you to do is just say it was corrupt, and leave the rest to me and the republican congressmen. >> reporter: and when it became clear that they would not do trump's bidding, the former-president zeroed in on someone at doj...
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rosen said to mr. trump, quote, doj can't and won't snap its fingers and change the election. how did the president respond to that, sir? >> he responded very quickly and said, essentially, that's not what i'm asking to you do. what i'm asking you to do is say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the republican congressman. >> it wasn't paraphrasing, okay. let me show you the hand-written note that donohue took, that he wrote, on the day of the call. just say that the election was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the r. congressman. there you have it. multiple sources tonight are telling our kaitlan collins that trump allies acknowledged that testimony today was damaging and bleak and important to note people in trump's orbit downplayed other hearings so far so today, seeing it differently. part of the reason is the witnesses today clearly detailed how trump tried to pressure the justice department to help him hold on to power and again, hear the crucial thing, even after he had been told again and again and again that there was nothing to the crazy allegations of f
rosen said to mr. trump, quote, doj can't and won't snap its fingers and change the election. how did the president respond to that, sir? >> he responded very quickly and said, essentially, that's not what i'm asking to you do. what i'm asking you to do is say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the republican congressman. >> it wasn't paraphrasing, okay. let me show you the hand-written note that donohue took, that he wrote, on the day of the call. just say that the...
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rosen says the amount of hate crimes has almost doubled since the start of the pandemic. they filed 14 cases in 2020 and 23 in 2021, i'm hopeful that we'll have fewer hate crimes this year than we did last year. but what happened here on saturday is just totally wrong and senseless after jam rosen says he would like want to take classes about their achievements. hispanics have made to our country. so changes her heart and mind reporting in mountain view. justin campbell kron, 4 news. okay for t6 is the time. still ahead on the kron 4 morning news >> if you missed last night's game against the celtics, spoiler alert. well, you can see it on the screen. the warriors, to cape one. we'll have some of the highlights coming up. don't worry, everything's fine. we'll be right back. for 29 the time. let's get a check of the weather forecast here this morning. john shrable standing by with a look at are not friday forecast but our weekend one as well. good morning, john. yes, the weekend ahead of us and we are looking at 70's all the way through it. >> a big cool down for him, espe
rosen says the amount of hate crimes has almost doubled since the start of the pandemic. they filed 14 cases in 2020 and 23 in 2021, i'm hopeful that we'll have fewer hate crimes this year than we did last year. but what happened here on saturday is just totally wrong and senseless after jam rosen says he would like want to take classes about their achievements. hispanics have made to our country. so changes her heart and mind reporting in mountain view. justin campbell kron, 4 news. okay for...
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rosen here, on christmas eve. on december 21st, some republican members of congress met with president trump in the white house, to talk about overturning the 2020 election. let's hear representative marjorie taylor greene talk about how this meeting got set up. >> i was the only new member at the meeting. i've met president trump on saturday and said, we've got to have a meeting. and there's many of us that feel like this election has been stolen. >> on the screen, you will see that president trump's chief of staff tweeted about that meeting right after it happened. he said, quote, several members of congress just finished a meeting in the oval office with president donald trump, preparing to fight back against mounting evidence of voter fraud. stay tuned. on the same day, he met with these republican members of congress. president trump called into a conservative political convention and use the opportunity to pressure the department of justice to investigate his bogus claims. >> the problem is, we need a party
rosen here, on christmas eve. on december 21st, some republican members of congress met with president trump in the white house, to talk about overturning the 2020 election. let's hear representative marjorie taylor greene talk about how this meeting got set up. >> i was the only new member at the meeting. i've met president trump on saturday and said, we've got to have a meeting. and there's many of us that feel like this election has been stolen. >> on the screen, you will see...
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so much of what donald trump was saying and doing was in jeffrey rosen's ear. he will be able to testify to that experience. it's pretty intense pressure. again, one of the -- i think we are up to moment 92 of the pressure points that donald trump was applying to various people in his administration and outside it to try to get them to help him keep his hands on the reigns of power and to promote the big lie that the election had some fraudulent element. i think this plays very interestingly into what bill barr said last night. i told the president it was bs. but it was, you know, being celebrated all over the country and convincing his supporters. here again, trump is trying to convince rosen to help persuade his voters the election was fraudulent. >> carol, grateful for your time. we are glad to have your voice and your reporting with us here during this special coverage. thanks. >> going back to what the committee started with, the central thesis that this leads back to donald trump. it seems like they are showing piece by piece of this. every time we get ne
so much of what donald trump was saying and doing was in jeffrey rosen's ear. he will be able to testify to that experience. it's pretty intense pressure. again, one of the -- i think we are up to moment 92 of the pressure points that donald trump was applying to various people in his administration and outside it to try to get them to help him keep his hands on the reigns of power and to promote the big lie that the election had some fraudulent element. i think this plays very interestingly...
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rosen because you weren't declaring that there was election fraud? >> toward the end of the meeting, the president again was getting very agitated and he said that people tell me i should just get rid of both of you. i should just remove you. >> mr. clark had told us that the president had asked him to consider whether he would be willing to replace me and supposedly on a time table by monday the 4th. and so i had told mr. clark, i thought he was making a colossal error in judgment. >> the committee show cased how clark was instrumental to trump's plot, clark and another trump loyalist were behind a draft letter to state officials in georgia which called joe biden's win there into question. >> this letter claims that the u.s. department of justice's investigations have, quote, identified significant concerns that may have impacted the outcome of the election in multiple states. the department recommends that the georgia general assembly should convene in special session, end quote. and consider approving a new slate of electors. and it indicates that
rosen because you weren't declaring that there was election fraud? >> toward the end of the meeting, the president again was getting very agitated and he said that people tell me i should just get rid of both of you. i should just remove you. >> mr. clark had told us that the president had asked him to consider whether he would be willing to replace me and supposedly on a time table by monday the 4th. and so i had told mr. clark, i thought he was making a colossal error in judgment....
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rosen said to mr. trump, quote, doj compla comp can't and won't snap its fingers and change the election. how did the president respond to that? >> he responded very quickly and said essentially that's not what i'm asking you do, what i'm asking you do is just say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the republican congressmen. >> michael, do you agree with dave that that speaks to the former president's intent here? >> absolutely. and i also would add to that that on the january 3 meeting in the white house, rosen and trump were having a conversation and trump says to rosen, you are not going to do anything about this, are you? you're not going to send this proof of concept letter that clark drafted this fraudulent letter about fraud in georgia. and he said i'm absolutely not going to do anything about it. and he said i can't do anything about it, it is unconstitutional, it is illegal, and in the aftermath of that, trump still moved forward in an effort to get this false letter out there. so to
rosen said to mr. trump, quote, doj compla comp can't and won't snap its fingers and change the election. how did the president respond to that? >> he responded very quickly and said essentially that's not what i'm asking you do, what i'm asking you do is just say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the republican congressmen. >> michael, do you agree with dave that that speaks to the former president's intent here? >> absolutely. and i also would add to that that on...
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rosen said to mr. trump, quote, d.o.j. can't and won't snap its fingers an change the outcome of the election. how did the president respond to that, sir? >> he responded very quickly and said essentially that's not what i'm asking you to do, what i'm asking you to do is say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the republican congress. >> that's the key line into the yesterday hearing from the capitol attack, called quote the smoking gun from one top criminal lawyer and said it speaks to trump's criminal intent. more on that. >>> and the supreme court on guns and with the supreme court going one way and congress going the other and we will tell you what it means for gun safety in america. >>> and breaking news overnight from ukraine, after weeks of fighting, the ukraine officials say the forces have to withdraw from a key battleground in the east. we'll have the latest. >>> all right. good morning. and welcome to "way too early." on this friday, june 24th. i'm sam, in for jonathan lemire. hearin
rosen said to mr. trump, quote, d.o.j. can't and won't snap its fingers an change the outcome of the election. how did the president respond to that, sir? >> he responded very quickly and said essentially that's not what i'm asking you to do, what i'm asking you to do is say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the republican congress. >> that's the key line into the yesterday hearing from the capitol attack, called quote the smoking gun from one top criminal lawyer and said...
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in as the acting attorney general because jeffrey rosen is not doing his bidding. time and again,s the trump. trump is hoping he can pin this on the paul eastmans of the world. the testimony today coupled with the testimony earlier, this is not like some eastman thing, this is not some people who invaded the capitol on their own. this is donald trump at the center. he's the hub of the criminal conspiracy. >> i am so struck now by where this january 3rd showdown in the oval office takes place in the time line of what we already know. it's saturday night around -- this is obviously when trump's nocturnal impulses are most rage filled. saturday night, he's on the phone with raffensperger asking him to find 11,800 votes. raffensperger rebuts him, so all he's got sunday night by 8:00 is jeffrey clark. his attempts to corrupt up and down the line failed. and we know that call leaked by sunday night, or at least while the meeting was going on. you have to look at trump's role in the fake electors plot differently. know, he went to ramp sperger, got a no. got a no effing w
in as the acting attorney general because jeffrey rosen is not doing his bidding. time and again,s the trump. trump is hoping he can pin this on the paul eastmans of the world. the testimony today coupled with the testimony earlier, this is not like some eastman thing, this is not some people who invaded the capitol on their own. this is donald trump at the center. he's the hub of the criminal conspiracy. >> i am so struck now by where this january 3rd showdown in the oval office takes...
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and to be clear, donoghue, rosen had repeatedly told him it wasn't corrupt. that the idea it was corrupt was a lie. ryan, my question to you is if everything we heard yesterday there was that sentence, there was a sentence which jumped out at me where donoghue testifies the president said to him you guys may not be following the internet the way i do. of all of it where is the greatest legal jeopardy for donald trump? >> so i think we heard it in part from eric herschmann white house lawyer he says to jeffrey clark if you go through with this your very first act as acting attorney general will be to commit a felony. so there is a felony in trying to send this letter to georgia and other states on the basis of a false hood and say you need to decertify before january 6 that's interfering in an election. the other is a political coercion act, you are not ever able to coerce a u.s. official to intervene on behalf of a candidate. they were threatening rosen with his very job if he didn't go through with their scheme. >> laura, the letter which you are holding in
and to be clear, donoghue, rosen had repeatedly told him it wasn't corrupt. that the idea it was corrupt was a lie. ryan, my question to you is if everything we heard yesterday there was that sentence, there was a sentence which jumped out at me where donoghue testifies the president said to him you guys may not be following the internet the way i do. of all of it where is the greatest legal jeopardy for donald trump? >> so i think we heard it in part from eric herschmann white house...
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in just a few hours jeffrey rosen, former acting attorney general who oversaw the department for only a few pivotal weeks in time is set to testify before the january 6 committee later today and cnn has now obtained some of what he plans to say. rosen will be joined by two other top justice department officials, both of whom threat enned to quit. and jeffrey clark with no criminal trial experience was all in on the bogus theories being bandied about and told trump exactly what he wanted to hear. meantime cnn has learned that the justice department is widening its investigation into the plot to send the fake slates of electors to overturn biden's win. there is a fresh round of subpoenas to rogue electors from several swing states. here to help me sort through all of this is a former federal prosecutor and host of the podcast on topic. so great to see you. it has been a while. >> good to see you. >> great to have you. so today we're going to hear from more people, guards at the gate if you will, these people willing to fall on their sword to try to do the right thing. what are you watch
in just a few hours jeffrey rosen, former acting attorney general who oversaw the department for only a few pivotal weeks in time is set to testify before the january 6 committee later today and cnn has now obtained some of what he plans to say. rosen will be joined by two other top justice department officials, both of whom threat enned to quit. and jeffrey clark with no criminal trial experience was all in on the bogus theories being bandied about and told trump exactly what he wanted to...
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jeff rosen has already spoken with the committee in private. he has shown a willingness to pursue the fraud claims other justice officials wouldn't. this is what he told us about the accusations in georgia video revealed today. >> we took a hard look at this ourselves, and based on our review of it, including the interviews of the key witnesses, the fulton county allegations were -- had no merit. >> abby phillip, jamie gangel and john king are all back with us. jamie, that's significant, because what people don't understand, the trump supporters don't understand is bill barr, jeffrey rosen, all these other folks, the u.s. attorney, b b.j. pak, they would have wanted to find fraud to please him, but there wasn't any fraud. >> as i frequently say about all the testimony coming out now is better late than never, but where were they at the time? i'm told the thursday hearing is going to be even more compelling and effective than what we heard today. i'm told that jeffrey rosen, richard donahue, that they are blunt and they're going to lay out exact
jeff rosen has already spoken with the committee in private. he has shown a willingness to pursue the fraud claims other justice officials wouldn't. this is what he told us about the accusations in georgia video revealed today. >> we took a hard look at this ourselves, and based on our review of it, including the interviews of the key witnesses, the fulton county allegations were -- had no merit. >> abby phillip, jamie gangel and john king are all back with us. jamie, that's...
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how important is jeffrey rosen as a witness? >> first on the 25th amendment issue, i think it just shows how deeply disturbed people who are right in the aftermath of january six. and how they allowed that concern to dissipate over time, which suggests that political forces took over, over their genuine concern for the country as time went on. speaking about next week, though, i think that the testimony that i'm really gonna be watching is wednesdays hearing, with jeffrey rosen, as you mentioned. he's the acting attorney general of the united states at the time. and i think what he will testify to is what he has already told the senate judiciary committee about this episode about the relentless pressure that he received from donald trump and the white house, to push this idea that there was fraud in the election. at one point, they were told to just say it was fraud, and leave the rest to me. and republicans in congress. and that they were consistently applying the pressure to the point that ultimately, what they wanted to do is
how important is jeffrey rosen as a witness? >> first on the 25th amendment issue, i think it just shows how deeply disturbed people who are right in the aftermath of january six. and how they allowed that concern to dissipate over time, which suggests that political forces took over, over their genuine concern for the country as time went on. speaking about next week, though, i think that the testimony that i'm really gonna be watching is wednesdays hearing, with jeffrey rosen, as you...