kim: stephanie allain is a film producer and writer and the newly elected co-president of the producers guild of america, the first woman of color to hold that position. stephanie served nine years as vice president of women in film. she runs her own company, homegrown pictures, which focuses on creating content by and about women and people of color. keri and stephanie, welcome to you both. stephanie: yeah, happy to be here. keri: thank you. kim: now, keri, you were set on a career in theater, but there was a plot twist and hollywood came calling. tell us about what happened. keri: well, that was a very early plot twist in my career. i, um, i was coming out of college and i was gonna go work at a theater, um, and i had a friend who was working at hbo, which at that time was a very um, startup network. that's a long time ago. pretty startup network. and she said, "well, you're going to go work in the theater, but there's some guy coming who's going to be making plays for television on hbo, you could maybe be his assistant." and so i got that job as a secretary at the very bottom, starti