1 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:11,640 I'm Alice Roberts. 2 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:15,040 I'm expecting my second child in a few months 3 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:18,400 and I'm having a day out to visit some relatives. 4 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:25,360 Hello, hello. 5 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:28,080 Do you want this grape? 6 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:31,480 This is Le Puri. 7 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,320 She's a baby bonobo, or pygmy chimpanzee. 8 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:43,440 And of all animals alive today, she's one of my closest relatives. 9 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,200 Well, this is bringing out all the maternal instincts in me. 10 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:51,160 Oh, hello, Le Puri! 11 00:00:53,480 --> 00:00:57,400 Le Puri may be cute, but having reached the grand old 12 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:01,720 age of one, she's much more developed than a one-year-old human. 13 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:08,800 She and I share 99% of our DNA and yet from the moment of birth, 14 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,600 our lives are so very different. 15 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,880 When my baby is born it will take him a year to even walk, 16 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:23,480 and yet with time, as a human, his life will develop a richness 17 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,720 far beyond that of our hairy ape cousins. 18 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,600 So what is it about our bodies, our genes 19 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,960 and ultimately our brains that sets us apart? 20 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,120 What is it that truly makes us human? 21 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:01,480 I've come somewhere I've long been keen to visit, 22 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:06,160 the great ape enclosure at the Max Planck Institute at Leipzig Zoo, 23 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,360 one of the biggest collections of great apes on the planet. 24 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,640 As well as humans, the family of great apes is made 25 00:02:25,640 --> 00:02:30,720 up of gorillas, orangutans, chimpanzees and bonobos. 26 00:02:35,920 --> 00:02:38,520 It's really lovely watching the little ones with the adults 27 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,880 because they're doing what you'd expect a toddler to do. 28 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,160 They're being annoying. 29 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,480 They're kind of going up and tickling the adults 30 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,000 and they've got this mischievous look in their eyes. 31 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:59,160 These apes are our closest living relatives. 32 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:07,080 And I'm here to find out what makes this particular ape, 33 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,360 the human one, different to all the others. 34 00:03:13,640 --> 00:03:16,640 Very difficult to sketch them, really. 35 00:03:16,640 --> 00:03:19,760 They stay still for a minute and then they're off again. 36 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,600 For me, as an anatomist, 37 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:28,840 the first thing to do is to look at the differences between our bodies. 38 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,160 Gorillas are the largest of the great apes 39 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,920 and looking at the massive silverback right 40 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:38,200 at the back of the enclosure there, he really is enormous. 41 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:39,320 He's magnificent. 42 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,960 They're sitting quite nicely still so you can get a real appreciation 43 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:49,040 of the similarities and differences between their anatomy and ours. 44 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,760 There's an awful lot about them which is very similar, in fact. 45 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,840 So if you look at the construction of the arms 46 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:57,840 and the legs, you've got all the same bones there. 47 00:03:59,960 --> 00:04:03,080 But they are different shapes and different proportions, 48 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:06,200 so you can see that the arms are very long compared with the legs. 49 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,240 They've got very short legs compared with the rest of their bodies. 50 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,320 We've got very long legs, ridiculously long legs for an ape. 51 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,640 These differences relate to how we move around. 52 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,880 Whereas gorillas and other apes knuckle-walk on all fours, 53 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:29,120 we humans, uniquely, habitually walk around upright, on two legs. 54 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,360 And there's another obvious difference that becomes 55 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,280 apparent when you start drawing heads. 56 00:04:40,280 --> 00:04:41,960 It's quite difficult sketching them. 57 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,640 I find the faces particularly difficult because you've got 58 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,760 such an idea in your head of what a human face looks like, and you 59 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:52,080 have to forget that entirely when you're sketching these apes, because 60 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,920 the proportions of their faces are entirely different from ours. 61 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:57,400 If you look at a human head, 62 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,440 the eyes are quite low on the head, perhaps about halfway down 63 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,640 if we measure from the top of the head to the chin. 64 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:07,040 If you look at a gorilla head, the eyes are right up on the top 65 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,640 because their brain case is so much smaller than ours. 66 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,760 They don't have this massive forehead 67 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:13,480 and a massive brain inside it. 68 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:21,360 We've long known that these two features, big brains 69 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:25,400 and upright walking, really are hallmarks of humans. 70 00:05:29,280 --> 00:05:34,560 And somehow these big brains must explain the vast gulf that we see 71 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:39,400 between ourselves and our closest ape relatives, the chimpanzees. 72 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:44,800 Of all the great apes, 73 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,920 these are the ones to which we're most closely related. 74 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,560 And the amazing thing is that we now know from studies 75 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:59,560 of DNA, our DNA, theirs, and that of other apes, that, in fact, we are 76 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:04,800 more closely related to chimpanzees than either of us is to gorillas. 77 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:06,120 It's extraordinary. 78 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:12,960 There's this close-knit family of us, common chimpanzees and bonobos. 79 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,400 I think that says something really important about our place 80 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,360 in this primate family tree and it makes it even more 81 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:23,360 extraordinary that our lives are so different to theirs. 82 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:32,360 So what exactly has changed in the six million years 83 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,400 since we shared a common ancestor? 84 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,520 We certainly have bigger brains 85 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:44,400 and we think we're more intelligent, but chimps are full of surprises. 86 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:53,960 The Max Planck Institute is at the forefront of some ground-breaking 87 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:58,040 work, comparing intelligence in humans and in chimps. 88 00:07:02,280 --> 00:07:03,920 For the past nine years, 89 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:08,200 Michael Tomasello has been closely studying this troop. 90 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,400 So she did something which I think in human society 91 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,040 would be considered rather odd. 92 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,480 She came along and presented her bottom to you. 93 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,720 So is that a kind of friendly sign? 94 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,320 It's a kind of a friendly greeting. Right, OK. 95 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,600 A little friendlier than we might normally do in human society. 96 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,280 You see, there are these similarities, 97 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,680 but there are some quite important differences as well. 98 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,760 Exactly so. 99 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:35,120 'And his work on ape intelligence is casting a fascinating new 100 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:39,080 'light on what it means to be human.' 101 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,160 And when you first started doing this work, 102 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,040 were you surprised? 103 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,360 Did you, did you find that they were more or less intelligent 104 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:47,800 than you expected them to be? 105 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:52,160 Well, that's the great part, is that they were, in some ways, 106 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,520 more intelligent and in other ways maybe a little less so. 107 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,800 They will do some things that will just absolutely surprise you 108 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,960 and you just can't believe they're so clever, and then they'll 109 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:06,040 just turn around and do something that's just kind of thick. 110 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:12,400 We like to think we're the most intelligent species on the planet, 111 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:16,840 but we have to be careful about what exactly we mean by intelligence. 112 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:22,120 The first thing we have to get rid of in thinking about animal intelligence 113 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,640 is the idea that there's this ladder of intelligence 114 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,680 that goes from low to high, and animals can just be placed on it. 115 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,920 It's actually much more complicated than that. 116 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,880 Different animals have different intelligences, as it were. 117 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,960 So the best memorisers in the world are squirrels 118 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:41,640 and birds that hide their nuts in different locations and can remember 119 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:45,280 dozens and dozens and dozens of locations, more than we can. 120 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,880 Oh, I was going to say, so when you say best memorisers in the world, that includes us? 121 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,040 That includes us. Absolutely. 122 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,640 In the case of apes, what we think is that they're especially 123 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,520 good at cognising things about the physical world 124 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:02,560 and understanding space, and causal relations like when using tools, 125 00:09:02,560 --> 00:09:05,560 what causes something to move and whatever. 126 00:09:05,560 --> 00:09:08,040 They're very good at that and basically they're not 127 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,040 different from human children in that kind of understanding. 128 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:14,960 So here's this task. 129 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,040 I put a little peanut, this is for you, this is your reward 130 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:19,400 and I just put it in here. 131 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:24,480 'And to show me just how intelligent chimps can be, 132 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,960 'Michael's colleague, Daniel Hannus, has invited me to try my hand 133 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,760 'at solving a problem that they regularly give to chimpanzees.' 134 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:37,080 You just do whatever you want to retrieve the peanut. 135 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,840 'My task is to get the peanut out of the tube 136 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,120 'using anything that comes to hand.' 137 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:49,880 I wonder if I could use the chain somehow, and the teaspoon. 138 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,360 That's going to be really difficult, I think. 139 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,960 Slightly worried I'm going to lose the teaspoon as well. 140 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:07,760 You'll never get it out again. 141 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:09,960 I don't think that's the right thing to do. 142 00:10:14,560 --> 00:10:17,320 It may take me a while to figure it out, 143 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,280 but the key to this puzzle is something that you might 144 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:25,800 think chimps don't have, the ability to use a bit of lateral thinking. 145 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:27,240 Am I allowed to use my water? 146 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:28,680 Whatever you want. 147 00:10:28,680 --> 00:10:31,480 Any idea you have, you could just try it out. OK. 148 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,240 Yes! Here it comes. 149 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:48,560 Yeah, wow! 150 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:51,000 Excellent. 151 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:58,320 It took me more than four minutes to get my peanut, 152 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,360 so now let's see how a chimpanzee manages. 153 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,280 Oh, here they come, so Daniel's just trying to get them 154 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,600 interested in the peanut and they're going to have to do exactly 155 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,160 the same test that I just did. 156 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,080 Oh, look, he's doing it. 157 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,520 It's just really clever, it really is, 158 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:25,040 watching this chimp doing that. 159 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,000 And he doesn't have a bottle of water like I had. 160 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,360 He's got to think about how to get the water in there. 161 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,760 He takes some from his drinking bottle into his mouth 162 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:39,480 and then he spits it out in the tube. 163 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,160 He hasn't quite done enough. 164 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:44,400 Can he reach it yet? 165 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,520 There's another mouthful of water gone in and, oh, it's just, 166 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:53,760 it's almost there. 167 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:54,760 It must be so frustrating. 168 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:57,960 Oh! 169 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,120 Yeah! He's done it, he's done it. 170 00:12:02,560 --> 00:12:04,000 You clever chimpanzee. 171 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:06,600 I think that was quicker than me. 172 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:09,600 Twice as quick, in fact. 173 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:14,160 But although this chimp has done it before, even when presented with 174 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:19,160 the task for the first time, many of the apes here figured out that water 175 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:25,280 could be used not only to drink, but also as a tool to make peanuts move. 176 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:29,080 At certain tasks, chimps are cleverer than you might think. 177 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:32,680 And what excites me is that Mike 178 00:12:32,680 --> 00:12:36,760 and his team are now homing in on the specific aspects of human 179 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:41,520 intelligence and behaviour that set us apart from our hairy cousins. 180 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,600 What makes us really different is our ability to put our heads 181 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:50,440 together and to do things that neither one of us could do alone, 182 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,920 to create new resources that neither one of us could create alone. 183 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:57,720 It's really all about communicating and collaborating 184 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,320 and working together. 185 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,920 But you think there's some kind of add-on effect then of teaching 186 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,040 and of being in a society, 187 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,920 in a culture which kind of builds on those innate abilities? 188 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:10,360 It makes all the difference. 189 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,920 If you raised a child on a desert island with no social contact 190 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:19,720 so no teaching, no contact with humans, their intelligence 191 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,520 as an adult would be very similar to that of other apes. 192 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,240 It would be a little bit different, 193 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,520 but they're evolved to learn from others 194 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,400 and to communicate with others and to collaborate with others, 195 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,920 and if there was no-one there and no culture and no tools and no 196 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:37,320 language, then that natural human intelligence just wouldn't develop. 197 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,400 Fish are born expecting water, OK? 198 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:44,000 They've got fins, they've got gills, they're born expecting water 199 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,080 and humans are born expecting culture. 200 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:58,520 At the heart of being a human then is our culture, 201 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,480 and something that goes hand in hand with human culture 202 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:07,200 is our ability to co-operate, and Michael has devised an experiment 203 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:12,120 that he believes reveals a specific piece of behaviour that separates 204 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:17,160 us from chimps, that defines us a species, and truly makes us human. 205 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,760 So what's this test designed to look at then? 206 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:26,960 OK, this is a test of being able to collaborate or co-operate 207 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:32,840 by pulling in on a rope such that they each get their reward. 208 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:36,720 The rope is strong through these hooks, so that 209 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:40,960 if anyone individual pulls, it'll just pull the rope out loosely. 210 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:42,160 Ah, right. 211 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,800 And so you have to pull together in order to get the food. 212 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,520 So now they each have their rope. I see. So that's a moveable plank? 213 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:53,840 It's a moveable plank. 214 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,600 With their pieces of banana, which is their reward. Exactly. 215 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,360 So they have to pull together? And they have to pull together. 216 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,840 If any one of them pulls alone, they just pull it out. 217 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,160 So now it's tightened up and they're ready to actually make it move, 218 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,800 but they have to be sensitive to what the other one is doing. 219 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:13,200 Notice there was actually a look to the other? Yeah, this is amazing. 220 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,640 OK, and they both pull it in and get their rewards. 221 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,480 These are two of our best at doing this. 222 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,200 That is stunning. They are very good. 223 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,760 Proper, proper co-operation. It's brilliant. 224 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:32,720 But co-operation in the chimp world is a fragile thing. 225 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:38,240 What happens if something goes wrong and one chimp gets her reward first? 226 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,240 This one has tangled her rope. Oh! 227 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,240 She can't quite reach it. 228 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,840 And now she can't do it, as long as this one's let go. 229 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,000 You can now see the rope coming out. 230 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:51,800 She's frustrated because they didn't pull exactly synchronously. Yeah. 231 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,960 So she's got her reward. She's happy now, she's gone. 232 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,760 And then her poor partner is left without a reward. 233 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:09,040 For our closest relatives, clever as they are, that's as far as it goes. 234 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:12,720 Chimps will co-operate, but only for selfish ends. 235 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,920 But the experiments get really interesting 236 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,880 when you start testing humans. 237 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:38,520 Michael has been comparing how young children perform in the same task. 238 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:45,120 This is a very similar test to the test that the chimpanzees 239 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:46,840 were doing with the bananas. 240 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,520 Yes, it's the same basic idea, same basic idea. 241 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:54,600 'Like the chimps, the kids have to collaborate by pulling 242 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:58,240 'on a string at the same time to release the marbles. 243 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:08,000 'And just like the chimps, they have no problem co-operating.' 244 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,920 'Instead of a piece of banana, their reward is 245 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:19,600 'the satisfaction of placing a marble in the plinck machine.' 246 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:23,640 THEY SPEAK GERMAN 247 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:29,960 'The experiment can be set up 248 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:35,360 'so that the children receive either an equal or an unequal reward.' 249 00:17:35,360 --> 00:17:38,320 THEY SPEAK GERMAN 250 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,160 So, Mike, what's the idea of this test? 251 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,640 They have to work together to get the reward? 252 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:49,240 Yeah, so the idea of this test is that kids are not that 253 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:53,520 naturally generous with their own things, and so if they just 254 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:57,120 have some things and you tell them they can share, maybe they will, 255 00:17:57,120 --> 00:18:02,240 maybe they won't, but when they work together and they generate together 256 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:06,080 these rewards, they have a tendency to want them to be equally split. 257 00:18:12,360 --> 00:18:13,400 Here they come. 258 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:20,640 So she's setting it up... 259 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:26,720 ..but this time making sure it's going to be an uneven distribution? 260 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:32,760 Yes. One of them's going to get more than the other and we'll see 261 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:36,320 if they need to even it out before they cash in their rewards. 262 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:45,280 Pulling. 263 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:51,840 Ah, so there's uneven rewards, no? 264 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,080 This little girl's got one and that one's got three. 265 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:02,280 Are they sharing? 266 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:05,200 Let's see. 267 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:09,600 They shared them out. 268 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,080 Yes, they shared them out. 269 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:15,560 So they ended up with two each, yep. 270 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:21,160 Isn't that interesting? 271 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:24,120 That was quite extraordinary, 272 00:19:24,120 --> 00:19:27,360 because I wouldn't have naturally thought that kids of this age, 273 00:19:27,360 --> 00:19:30,200 two-year-olds, three-year-olds, would be that into sharing. 274 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,400 It's only when they work together for it. 275 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,160 That's just fascinating. 276 00:19:40,120 --> 00:19:44,600 'In these experiments, Mike and his team have uncovered a seemingly 277 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:48,800 'small but crucial difference between us and chimpanzees.' 278 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:49,760 OK, here they come. 279 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:56,160 'Human children do something that no other ape will do.' 280 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,560 He rolls one over to him. He's rolled one over. Yeah. 281 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:15,720 'In that small act of sharing, they reveal something that really does 282 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,120 'lie at the heart of what it is to be human.' 283 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:26,080 'It's a tiny but profound difference between us and the other apes, 284 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:31,160 'and it's a way of thinking that underpins our ability 285 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,160 'to co-operate and create human culture.' 286 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:45,160 Somehow these huge brains that we've got encapsulate the main differences 287 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,160 between ourselves and our closest cousins, 288 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,040 because look at these chimpanzees. 289 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:53,400 They're naked and hairy, they're not wearing clothes, 290 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,520 they're not talking about me, they're not sketching me. 291 00:20:56,520 --> 00:21:00,280 So there are some really massive differences between us and them 292 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:04,040 which must come down, in some ways, to what is going on 293 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,880 inside this huge organ in our heads. 294 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:26,160 'With just a few months left until I'm due to give birth, 295 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:30,000 'I'm off for a scan to see how my new baby is getting along.' 296 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,720 So shall I just lie back on here, then, Chrissie? Yes. 297 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,000 Right, this is some cold jelly. Yeah. 298 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,080 So I'll just have a little look around first of all. 299 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:09,640 'It is an emotional experience seeing my baby growing inside me.' 300 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,440 That's the head. That's the head, yeah. 301 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,120 There's the heart beating. 302 00:22:17,120 --> 00:22:18,280 Oh, that's wonderful. 303 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:22,640 That is my baby. 304 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:29,240 Look at that. 305 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:33,800 That is my baby inside my womb. 306 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,040 And looking at him, he's obviously small now. 307 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:43,080 He's only six months of gestation, 308 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,360 so he's got another few months to go, 309 00:22:45,360 --> 00:22:49,640 but he looks like a perfect but small little baby at this point, 310 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:50,880 so everything is there. 311 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,360 He's got his fingers in place, his toes in place, and it is just 312 00:22:54,360 --> 00:22:58,560 amazing that all of that has come from a single fertilised egg. 313 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,240 It never fails to amaze me. 314 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:04,240 I mean, that's just extraordinary that the whole complexity 315 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,160 of the human body comes from that, 316 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:11,720 that single cell with genes from me and genes from my husband, 317 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,800 and that somehow, at the end of it, you end up with a human. 318 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:21,040 'But as well as being an expectant mother, I'm also an anatomist, 319 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:26,640 'so looking at the scan I can't help but be fascinated by the structures 320 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:30,720 'I can already see inside this brand new human of mine.' 321 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,440 So if we come back to looking at the head now... 322 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:38,200 You can almost see structures inside the brain, can't you? That's amazing. 323 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,240 You can. This is the cerebellum. 324 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,880 Do you see this sort of dumbbell shape here? Yeah, yeah. 325 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,360 And this dark area here is the... 326 00:23:47,360 --> 00:23:50,000 Yeah, so that's the back of the lateral ventricle, isn't it? 327 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:54,880 That's right, that's the posterior ventricle there. That's amazing. 328 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:58,440 'After just six months, my baby's brain is already more than half 329 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:03,200 'the size of an adult chimpanzee's and it's still growing fast.' 330 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,720 How big is the head at the moment, Chrissie? 331 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,160 Well, shall we measure it and see? 332 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,200 So it says gestation just over 27 weeks, 333 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:21,040 and the head circumference is 25.6 centimetres. 334 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:22,680 What's the diameter? 335 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,960 The diameter, BPD 7.2 centimetres. 336 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,760 7.2, so it's going to get a little bit bigger. 337 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,560 Rather, yeah. 338 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,000 Oh, dear. 339 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,960 That's kind of big enough, I think. 340 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,560 'That growing head can't fail to remind me 341 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,960 'of something that's getting closer by the day.' 342 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,400 'Something that's particularly tricky for us humans.' 343 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:47,560 'Birth.' 344 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:52,960 'The enormous size of our brains, 345 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,840 'together with another uniquely human trait, 346 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,280 'our strange way of walking around on two legs, 347 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:03,920 'conspire to make human birth something of a squeeze, 348 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:05,520 'as any mother with tell you.' 349 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,600 WOMAN SCREAMS 350 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,240 And again. 351 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,240 Push, that's it, push. 352 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,400 WOMAN SCREAMS 353 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,720 It's quite strange being on a maternity ward and thinking that 354 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:34,200 I'm going to be back in a place like this in just two months' time, 355 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:38,280 ready for the appearance of my own little baby into the world. 356 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:43,160 I think it brings it home that human childbirth is really something 357 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:47,600 quite special, quite unique, even, amongst all other animals. 358 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,920 'By way of comparison, take a look at this, 359 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:58,160 'some rare film of a chimpanzee birth taken at Leipzig Zoo.' 360 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:07,320 'What's remarkable is just how quick and easy it is, 361 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,560 'certainly when compared with the rather more drawn-out 362 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,960 'and painful business of a human birth.' 363 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:15,840 WOMAN SCREAMS 364 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,040 Push harder, come on. 365 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:31,240 What I've drawn is essentially the anatomy of childbirth. 366 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,320 This is a human, female pelvis. 367 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,960 We're looking down on it from above, we're looking through 368 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,560 the birth canal and this is the baby's head 369 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,040 passing through that birth canal, 370 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,520 and you can see why childbirth is such a difficult process. 371 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,600 The birth canal is about ten centimetres in diameter, 372 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,920 the baby's head is about nine centimetres in diameter. 373 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,280 Now it's always been thought that there are constraints on the width 374 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,880 of the pelvis, which are all about walking on two legs, 375 00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:03,400 that we can't actually push the hips any further apart 376 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:07,200 because that would make walking inefficient, and so that means, 377 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,880 for our big-brained babies, 378 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,320 they couldn't actually stay in the womb any longer, 379 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:17,360 because their heads would be too big to fit out through this birth canal. 380 00:27:17,360 --> 00:27:20,000 And so our babies are born 381 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,680 at a relatively early stage of development. 382 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,080 Our new born babies are helpless. 383 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,600 'And that is one of the most puzzling paradoxes 384 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,640 'about being human.' 385 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:39,320 'For all our brilliance as a species, compared with other apes, 386 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:44,120 'our babies come into the world a bit useless.' 387 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:51,320 'For decades, we've assumed that our helpless babies are an unfortunate 388 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:55,960 'consequence of walking upright and having big brains.' 389 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,000 'It's called the obstetric dilemma.' 390 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,840 'It's in all the textbooks.' 391 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,880 'It's what I was taught at university 392 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,920 'and it's what I've gone on to teach others.' 393 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,240 'The female pelvis is struggling to do two different jobs, 394 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,880 'and we're stuck with these helpless babies.' 395 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,680 'If we could explain this dilemma, we'd start to open the door 396 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,880 'to a treasure trove of insights about being human...' 397 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:35,400 '..and there's some science emerging from the east coast of America 398 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:39,520 'that's shaking up the traditional view of women's hips.' 399 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,040 'Dr Holly Dunsworth decided that the female pelvis 400 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,840 'deserved a closer examination.' 401 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,560 It does seem peculiar, I mean, it really does mark us out amongst 402 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:58,480 all the other apes that childbirth for humans is...is difficult. 403 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,440 It's much more difficult than it is in chimpanzees and gorillas. 404 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,440 I know this from personal experience, 405 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:09,080 so what is it about our evolution that sets up this problem? 406 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:14,600 It's a dilemma. We have a tight fit. 407 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,480 We've got these two exceptional conditions. 408 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:21,080 We've got this funny way of getting around that we're doing right now, 409 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,600 and we've got these huge brains on top of our heads, 410 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:29,440 and natural selection acting on those two things 411 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:34,000 has come together and created this very difficult childbirth. 412 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,720 So is it a compromise, then? 413 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,240 The female pelvis is a compromise between something 414 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:44,240 that needs to be wide to let a large-brained baby out, 415 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:48,320 but needs to be narrow in order to make walking efficient? 416 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:49,600 Right, right. 417 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:54,240 And that's the obstetric dilemma, and it's unique to humans. 418 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:59,200 So the idea is that ideally we'd kind of want to get our pelvis 419 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,160 a bit wider, but actually, female pelves 420 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,360 are already making us less efficient 421 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:09,040 than men at walking and running, and we can't push it any further? 422 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:10,360 Right. 423 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:14,520 But as this hypothesis goes, they can't get any wider 424 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,800 or else women would be even worse at walking and running 425 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,640 than we already are, and everything would fall to pieces. 426 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,840 Yeah, that you'd end up kind of waddling along, 427 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,600 and it would be really inefficient. 428 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,320 Right. You'd never escape a sabre-toothed cat, you know. 429 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:37,280 'What's amazing is that in all these decades, no one has ever thought 430 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:41,560 'to question the assumptions that underlie the obstetric dilemma, 431 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:45,160 'or the suggestion that women are rubbish at running.' 432 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,320 'Until now.' 433 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:56,720 'Together with her colleagues, Herman Pontzer and Anna Warriner, 434 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,960 'Holly set about exhaustively testing the assumptions 435 00:30:59,960 --> 00:31:01,480 'about the female pelvis...' 436 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:07,120 '..and she's invited me to Herman's lab in New York to see the results.' 437 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:18,360 Awesome, thank you. 438 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,280 So, Holly, this was part of the original research that you did 439 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,760 with Herman and Anna, looking at the efficiency 440 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,000 of running and walking in women and men. 441 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,360 I saw them starting to do this sort of research, 442 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,080 and it fit really well with the doubts I was having about 443 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,640 all of this obstetric dilemma business. 444 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,200 Yeah, yeah. 445 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,440 So I'd been thinking about how kind of strange this idea was 446 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,520 that our pelvis was limiting our gestation length 447 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,920 and it was sort of, like, you know, an epiphany. 448 00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,160 'The team set out to explore the assumption that women, 449 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,200 'with our wide hips especially adapted for birth, 450 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,240 'are less efficient at walking and running than men.' 451 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,920 'Using a motion capture system and a force plate, Anna devised an 452 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:16,760 'experiment to analyse the internal mechanics of hip and leg bones.' 453 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,240 'Until now it had always been assumed that women's hip muscles, 454 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,920 'being attached to a wider pelvis, 455 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,480 'had to work harder than those of men.' 456 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:28,440 Go ahead, Lesley. 457 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:30,560 And there she comes. 458 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,720 That's great, isn't it? 459 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,440 A pair of legs walking about. 460 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:43,520 'But what the experiments revealed was that throughout each step, 461 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:47,320 'the angle of the pelvis is constantly adjusted 462 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,640 'to minimise the necessary work.' 463 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:55,160 'Women's hips may be wider, but the wobbling makes a key difference. 464 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,280 As you sort of move through the course of the step, 465 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,520 she's adjusting her balance and her weight. 466 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:05,760 So from this wavering around, 467 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,840 you start to suspect that it's not going to be so simple 468 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,960 saying that women have wider pelves and therefore their muscles around 469 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,680 their hips need to work harder when you're walking and running? 470 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:16,880 Yeah, exactly. Exactly right. 471 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,360 'The result of all these measurements 472 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:26,880 'is to show that, for decades, we got it wrong.' 473 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,920 This is really important because it means that there isn't a constraint 474 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:35,200 on how wide the pelvis is in terms of being efficient at bipedalism. 475 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,760 These data indicate that there is no effect 476 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:43,200 of having a pelvis adapted for birth on your efficiency 477 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:44,720 during walking or running. 478 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:51,360 'The female pelvis is not, it seems, compromised at all, 479 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,280 'and women, with our wide hips, 480 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,200 'are just as efficient at walking and running as men.' 481 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:05,040 'So why didn't the female pelvis evolve to be even wider, to allow 482 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:09,200 'our babies to grow a bit bigger and to be a bit less helpless at birth?' 483 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,600 'The answer was revealed to me through an experiment 484 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,880 'that involved me drinking some specially-labelled water 485 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,880 'and then sending Herman frozen samples of my urine.' 486 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:26,160 So, Herman, I recognise these little plastic tubes. 487 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:27,720 That's right. 488 00:34:27,720 --> 00:34:30,000 So we had you drink a small dose of what 489 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,480 we call doubly-labelled water, 490 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:35,320 and then we collected a bunch of urine samples as we have here, 491 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,600 and we can actually calculate how much carbon dioxide you're producing 492 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,840 every day, and therefore how many calories your body 493 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,040 is burning every day. 494 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,280 It's the gold standard for measuring energy 495 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,720 expenditure in people during normal life. 496 00:34:47,720 --> 00:34:51,160 'The length of gestation, it turns out, has nothing to do 497 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:56,280 'with the width of the birth canal, but everything to do with energy.' 498 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,280 So here we have the energy that the foetus is using. This is 499 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:03,240 based on data from other studies, and we see it goes up exponentially. 500 00:35:03,240 --> 00:35:06,720 As the kid gets bigger, it needs more and more and more energy, 501 00:35:06,720 --> 00:35:09,240 and we take a look at the energy 502 00:35:09,240 --> 00:35:12,800 that mums actually burn during pregnancy. 503 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,680 We see it goes up quite quickly at first, but then it levels off. 504 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,200 It hits a ceiling. You just can't do any more. 505 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,440 Your body is limited in how much energy it can burn. 506 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,120 Presumably then it doesn't matter if I were to eat more, 507 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,920 so if I were to eat a few more hundred calories, it doesn't matter. 508 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,000 I'm not going to be able to give that to the foetus 509 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,160 because I can't actually metabolise any quicker. 510 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,320 That's right. There's a limit to how much energy your body can put through. 511 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:35,640 There's a hard limit on that. 512 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,440 If gestation continued for another month, 513 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,400 you'd shoot through that ceiling. 514 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,440 It would be metabolically impossible to do. 515 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,640 So instead, what you do is, as you approach nine months, 516 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:44,680 you give birth. 517 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:45,800 Right. 518 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,800 So we take a look at your data, right? 519 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,320 We've got you plotted on here. You're right there. 520 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:52,880 Ah, right, so... 521 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,960 So you're about five months in. 522 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,720 That's exactly... So you could tell how many months pregnant I was 523 00:35:58,720 --> 00:36:02,240 by looking at this without actually...without me telling you? 524 00:36:02,240 --> 00:36:03,480 Without you telling me, 525 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,320 I could know that you've approached that ceiling. Yeah. 526 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,200 You were just about at the maximum energy expenditure 527 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,840 that we could expect your body to be able to do. Yeah. 528 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,240 It'll get to be unsustainable at just about nine months in, 529 00:36:15,240 --> 00:36:16,240 and you'll give birth. 530 00:36:16,240 --> 00:36:17,320 This is fascinating. 531 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:21,560 It means that the baby comes out at a moment in time 532 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,760 when it is just about to start demanding more energy 533 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,640 from the mother than the mother can possibly give it via the placenta. 534 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:28,640 That's right. 535 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:39,960 'This research is, I think, really revolutionary.' 536 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,920 'What it reveals is that however wide our hips became, 537 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:49,360 'our babies couldn't stay inside the womb a moment longer than they do.' 538 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,480 It makes me look at the female pelvis in a new light 539 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,680 and say, "Well, actually this isn't a design compromise." 540 00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,480 "It works very well." 541 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,600 But also, it makes me look at those helpless babies 542 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,840 in a new light as well, because they work well, too. 543 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,680 Right. You know, on the one hand, we say they're coming into the world 544 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:13,160 too early, but it works. It works within the context of human society 545 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,560 because otherwise we wouldn't be here in the numbers that we are. 546 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,080 We gestate as long as we should for primates of our body size, 547 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:20,840 and maybe a little longer. 548 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:25,400 We give birth to babies at the right size for primates of our body size, 549 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:26,720 or maybe a little larger. 550 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:33,400 It's just that once they're born, they have so much more growth 551 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,520 to experience, particularly in the brain, 552 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,760 and while we are achieving that growth, 553 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,600 we also have much more to learn about how to be a human 554 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:46,040 than a chimp has to learn about how to be a chimp. 555 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:10,200 'It turns out, then, that the very nature of human birth, 556 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:14,280 'the fact that I will deliver a seemingly underdeveloped baby, 557 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:18,920 'is in fact a key ingredient in my son's path to becoming human.' 558 00:38:23,720 --> 00:38:28,520 'Our babies may be born helpless, but far from being a dumb idea, 559 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:32,360 'it turns out to be one of the smartest moves we ever made... 560 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:38,200 '..because in order to develop their full human potential, 561 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:43,960 'the brains of our human babies need the stimulation of other humans.' 562 00:38:55,200 --> 00:39:01,000 'Somehow, the secrets of being human are locked away inside the brain, 563 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:06,000 'the most complicated, mysterious object in the universe.' 564 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:12,400 'But it's an organ that keeps its secrets wrapped up tight.' 565 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,880 So this is a brain which has been removed from a skull and you can 566 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,280 see that it's still got its coverings on it, its meninges, 567 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,120 so there are several layers of membrane 568 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:23,760 around the outside of the brain. 569 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:32,800 In order to see the brain, we're going to have to peel this back. 570 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,640 There we go, it's just going to come away actually. 571 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,680 I just need to get an edge and then when you've got an edge, 572 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,520 it peels off quite nicely. 573 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,360 It's rather like peeling the pith off an orange. 574 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,440 And once I've cleared this layer away, 575 00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:00,480 we're starting to see really nicely the texture of the surface 576 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,040 of the brain, so this is the cerebral cortex that we're starting 577 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,960 to see here, and you can see how heavily folded it is. 578 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,680 This is one of the characteristics of a human brain, 579 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,000 that the cortex is incredibly heavily folded. 580 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,640 You get the impression that there's a lot of information 581 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,880 being packed into a small area. 582 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,480 So that's it, this is the brain, nicely cleaned up. 583 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:31,440 And I think that however many times I do this, 584 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:37,080 it is utterly extraordinary to be holding in my hands 585 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:42,480 the organ that, more than any other part of our body, is us. 586 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:47,720 It seems utterly extraordinary that this actually quite 587 00:40:47,720 --> 00:40:53,640 unprepossessing physical object contains somebody's personality, 588 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:59,400 the seat of their emotions, and it was where they experienced the world 589 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,440 and where they held their memories. 590 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,280 It is just quite remarkable. 591 00:41:11,240 --> 00:41:15,680 'Despite several hundred years of probing, exactly how the 592 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:20,960 'human brain achieves all that remains shrouded in mystery.' 593 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:25,200 'What little we do know only makes it seem all the more extraordinary.' 594 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:31,320 'We know that a human brain contains a staggering one hundred billion 595 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:36,760 'neurons, but it's not just the number of brain cells that matters.' 596 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:40,920 'What makes the human brain so incredible is the huge number 597 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:47,120 'of connections between those cells, the vastly complex internal wiring.' 598 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,560 So, I'm going to start slicing it 599 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,680 with this incredibly sharp brain knife. 600 00:41:55,600 --> 00:42:01,000 'Human brains have about 40% more connections between cortical neurons 601 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,400 'than the brains of other primates.' 602 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:10,080 'That's around a hundred trillion connections in every brain.' 603 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,160 'We know the basic anatomy quite well 604 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,880 'but if we want to begin to understand this extraordinary level 605 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:20,640 'of complexity, we need to look at the brain with a whole new toolkit.' 606 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:52,360 'To discover exactly how our human brains came to be 607 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:57,840 'so highly connected, I've come to America to find out about the latest 608 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:02,440 'research into the human genome, the recipe for making a human.' 609 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,840 'There are three billion letters in the human genome, 610 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:21,040 'stored in the 23 chromosomes that hold this recipe 611 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,160 'in every cell of our bodies.' 612 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:29,320 'Each letter, A, G, C and T, represents one of the four bases, 613 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:33,360 'the chemical building blocks, which make up the long strands of DNA.' 614 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:39,280 'And for geneticists, like Franck Palleux, these letters hold 615 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:43,440 'the clues that could unlock the secrets of the human brain.' 616 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,960 So this is chromosome one written out? 617 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,000 Uh-huh. 618 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:56,280 And how much of chromosome one is it? Just one fiftieth. 619 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,160 And there's a thousand pages here. 620 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:04,280 A thousand pages, 45,000 base pairs per page. 621 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:12,200 'The whole genome would fill 670,000 sheets of paper 622 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,840 'and at this rate, it would take me and Franck more than a week, 623 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:20,880 'working 24 hours a day to lay out the entire human code.' 624 00:44:28,240 --> 00:44:32,320 It's amazing to think that our entire life, you know, 625 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,200 lies in this code. 626 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:48,360 'And if we want to find out what makes the human code unique, 627 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:53,080 'we need to compare our own recipe with others.' 628 00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,880 'The breakthrough that lets us do this is that as well as the 629 00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:01,520 'human genome, we now have sequenced the genomes of many other animals.' 630 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,640 'But finding the crucial sections of code 631 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,440 'that make us human is a monster puzzle.' 632 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:18,640 One of the important steps in this process to try to identify 633 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:22,680 what, in our genome, in the human genome, could underly what makes 634 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:27,160 us human, is to try to find differences at the base pair level, 635 00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:32,040 in the coding sequences between us, basically our genome, 636 00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:35,760 and the genome of our closest living relative at least, the chimpanzee. 637 00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:49,160 'Franck has homed in on one particular change that is specific 638 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:53,320 'to humans which he believes could be fundamental.' 639 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:58,240 'It involves a gene called SRGAP2 that is found in all animals 640 00:45:58,240 --> 00:46:01,800 'and mainly affects the developing brain, 641 00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:08,160 'but in humans, and only in humans, this gene is duplicated four times.' 642 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:17,320 This gene starts at page 814 and the very beginning of the sequence 643 00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:22,960 is this sequence, CACAGGAA, and so the gene starts here. 644 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,120 I can't believe you can recognise that. 645 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:32,520 The gene is about 125,000 base pairs long, 646 00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:36,840 so it goes from page 814 to 840. 647 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,320 So that is a single gene, all of that? 648 00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,280 That's a single gene. Exactly. 649 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:49,000 And the sequence basically ends right here, TGCTGCGT. 650 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:55,320 So this is a gene that we have in common with the other apes, 651 00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,960 but we've got three more copies of it? 652 00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,960 Correct. We've got three more copies of this gene. 653 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,440 That would be in volume 30. 654 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:07,800 Remember, this is only one volume for chromosome one. 655 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:11,400 The full sequence of chromosome one would take about 50 volumes, right? 656 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,160 So the copies would be in volume 30, 31, 32. 657 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:22,000 'What Franck discovered was that the human duplication of SRGAP2 658 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:26,360 'has a dramatic effect on the connectivity of neurons.' 659 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:32,280 'By splicing the human duplicate into mouse DNA, he showed that 660 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:36,480 'the mouse neurons increased their ability to form connections.' 661 00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,240 So this is a normal mouse brain, and that's what happens 662 00:47:42,240 --> 00:47:46,720 if you put that duplicated bit of SRGAP2? Exactly. 663 00:47:46,720 --> 00:47:50,280 You form many, many more spines, basically and we have other evidence 664 00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:54,400 to show that those neurons are actually hyper-connected there. 665 00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,640 You increase by about 40% the total number of connections 666 00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:59,240 made onto these neurons. 667 00:47:59,240 --> 00:48:01,320 Why is it so exciting? 668 00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,800 Basically, humans stand apart completely. 669 00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:08,240 Human neurons have about 40% to 50% increase in the total number 670 00:48:08,240 --> 00:48:12,280 of connections made onto those neurons, which we know is a feature 671 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,760 that sort of distinguishes human neurons, basically. 672 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,200 For me, this is when genetics gets really exciting, because we've got 673 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,440 an actual observable difference in the brains of chimpanzees 674 00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:28,320 versus the brains of humans, and now we've got something in the genome 675 00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,160 which could explain that actual physical difference in our brains. 676 00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:32,360 Exactly. 677 00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:49,520 'Every nuance of human behaviour somehow springs from this massive, 678 00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:53,200 'branching network of hyper-connected neurons 679 00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,560 'in our huge brains.' 680 00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:59,040 'It's what makes the human brain so brilliant, 681 00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:04,880 'this complex wiring diagram of connections that holds our memories, 682 00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:09,400 'our emotions, our ability to row a boat or to draw.' 683 00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,200 'It's what makes us human.' 684 00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,920 'But to even contemplate drawing this diagram, 685 00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:22,240 'we need a whole new way of looking.' 686 00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,200 'I've come to Harvard University to meet 687 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,640 'one of the world's foremost neuroscientists, 688 00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:43,200 'who has set himself a task of overwhelming ambition.' 689 00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:51,000 'Jeff Lichtman is planning to create the ultimate map, 690 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:55,680 'a wiring diagram of the human brain, one connection at a time.' 691 00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:05,080 'If he can ever complete it, this monumental map could finally 692 00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:08,200 'reveal the mystifying workings of the human brain.' 693 00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:15,400 'But before he can begin, Jeff is first attempting to map 694 00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,600 'the connections in the more modestly-sized mouse brain.' 695 00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:24,600 This is a little plastic block where the brain is embedded. 696 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,160 That's not a whole mouse brain in there? 697 00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,360 No, it's probably about a quarter of a mouse brain 698 00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:32,320 so in order to see what's going on, we have to slice it extremely thin, 699 00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:36,320 so we're slicing these brains with a diamond knife. 700 00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,960 That diamond knife cuts off a section that's about 30 nanometres 701 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:44,000 thick, so that's 300 hydrogen atoms. 702 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,640 You know, it's just very small, it's about a thousandth the thickness 703 00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:52,920 of a human hair, so that you end up with a very, very, very long tape 704 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:57,440 that has many, many, many thousands and thousands of sections on it. 705 00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,880 I can just about see the sections on there actually, 706 00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:01,600 those little rectangles. 707 00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,720 Yes, and those sections are like frames of a movie. 708 00:51:06,240 --> 00:51:10,360 'Every one of those thousands of wafer-thin sections 709 00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,960 'must then be individually scanned.' 710 00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:16,120 So this is actually real time, this is the images actually 711 00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:19,360 coming in from the electron microscope here? 712 00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,400 At 20 million pixels per second. 713 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,760 This will take 15 minutes, and then we do the next one, 714 00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:27,680 and we have 10,000 to do in this data set. 715 00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:29,960 That's three months. 716 00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,920 The numbers are just astronomical, aren't they? 717 00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:36,480 It is like looking at galaxies and counting stars. 718 00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:45,120 So in three months, you will have imaged a cube, 719 00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:46,600 a three-dimensional cube, 720 00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:51,840 which actually measures a quarter of a millimetre in each direction? 721 00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:53,080 That's right, roughly. 722 00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:56,400 In order to image a millimetre cubed, then, 723 00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,120 that would be 16 times. 724 00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,520 Yeah, so about four years. 725 00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,000 Then how long to image a whole mouse brain? 726 00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,440 You'd have to do that about a thousand times, 727 00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,120 so that's about, what, 4,000 years. 728 00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:12,240 OK, and how long to image a human brain? 729 00:52:12,240 --> 00:52:14,600 That would be a thousand times longer, so about... 730 00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,080 Four million years! 731 00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:21,160 So not in my lifetime, at this speed. 732 00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,200 Jeff, you've got to hope it gets quicker. 733 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,840 'A multi-million year timescale may sound daunting, 734 00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:33,480 'but technology advances, and already Jeff and his team 735 00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,720 'are giving us an incredible glimpse 736 00:52:35,720 --> 00:52:38,200 'into the inner workings of the brain.' 737 00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,680 I've asked one of my colleagues, Bobby Kestheri, 738 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:45,280 to hold one of these wafers that is being imaged really still 739 00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,800 so that we can zoom up on here, and he's very courageous. 740 00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:52,200 He's going to jump into the electron microscope in a second. 741 00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,360 And this is one of those sections. 742 00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,440 So that's just like one of the sections that we saw 743 00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:57,840 coming off the... That's right. 744 00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:03,360 'The images are so detailed they allow Jeff to zoom in right down 745 00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,000 'to the scale of individual neurons...' 746 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,000 Those big white circles are nerve cells. 747 00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,080 '..revealing, at the smaller scale, the cross-section 748 00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:16,000 'of the maze of wires at the heart of the brain.' 749 00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,200 As we zoom up more, 750 00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:22,480 we see, finally, an axon making a synapse onto a dendrite of a cell. 751 00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:35,880 'Jeff can then reassemble the tiny cube of brain inside a computer, 752 00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:39,120 'piling up the brain slices, tracking the complex path 753 00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:43,800 'of each neuron with a different colour and creating a 3-D model 754 00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,800 'of the individual wires that connect the brain.' 755 00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:51,720 'The wires are packed incredibly densely.' 756 00:53:51,720 --> 00:53:55,800 'This shows the wiring in just one five-millionth 757 00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,600 'of a cubic millimetre of brain.' 758 00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:03,280 So that's the circuitry, that's your three-dimensional wiring diagram? 759 00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:07,240 It's quite beautiful to look at the brain this way and to realise 760 00:54:07,240 --> 00:54:11,400 this is an infinitesimally small piece of a very large brain. 761 00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,520 I think for humans trying to contemplate this, 762 00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:24,400 the difficulty is that it's very hard for a human brain 763 00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:28,800 to understand the extraordinary complexity of a human brain. 764 00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:32,320 We think we're really smart and that we can understand everything, 765 00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,680 but, in fact, the machine we're using to allow us 766 00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,360 to understand things is way more complicated 767 00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:42,400 than the rather simple thoughts that come out of our minds. 768 00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:49,000 'Our brains are not only large, they have many more connections 769 00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:50,960 'than the brains of any other animal.' 770 00:54:52,240 --> 00:54:55,680 'Ultimately, by reaching down to these individual neurons, 771 00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,400 'by mapping the trillions of connections, 772 00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:03,680 'we may be able to pinpoint exactly how these hyper-connections 773 00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:08,480 'translate into the psychology and behaviour of human beings.' 774 00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:15,200 For most animals, their brains are largely encoded by their genes. 775 00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:18,920 A fruit fly does not have to go to school to fly 776 00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,480 and doesn't even have to learn how to fly. 777 00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:23,960 It knows how to fly from the get-go. 778 00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:25,960 In humans, it's very hard to know 779 00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,120 what kinds of behaviours we have intrinsically. 780 00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:32,160 Probably coughing, pooping, peeing and a few other things 781 00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:33,960 we definitely can do, breathing, 782 00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:38,400 but learning how to button your shirt or read or use the language 783 00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,640 you think with, all of that requires learning. 784 00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:43,440 You're an obligate learner. 785 00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:48,880 It's not an extra, it's an essential ingredient of being a human being. 786 00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:52,400 So humans have essentially got more behaviour which is learned 787 00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:56,000 and less behaviour which is programmed right from the beginning? 788 00:55:56,000 --> 00:56:01,600 Yes, we end up with brains that are capable of all these amazing things, 789 00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:06,080 but we come into the world seemingly knowing much less about the world 790 00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:08,200 than almost any other animal. 791 00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:12,280 It takes us a year to walk, 18 years to leave the nest, 792 00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:15,920 and during all that time, humans are building up information 793 00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:20,080 about how to behave, and the neural circuits for behaviour 794 00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:24,480 based on experience, rather than based on genetic information. 795 00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:30,760 A human today, as an adult, is doing an entirely different set of things 796 00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,200 than humans were doing thousands of years ago, 797 00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:36,240 and any young person will tell you that their parents seem 798 00:56:36,240 --> 00:56:40,520 old-fashioned and their grandparents seem positively ancient, 799 00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:42,560 but imagine, you know, what people were doing 800 00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:45,400 thousands or tens of thousands of years ago. 801 00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:48,840 It's because humans constantly evolve in a cultural way, 802 00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:52,480 even though our genetic heritage has not changed very rapidly. 803 00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,680 That's the genius of being a human being. 804 00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:18,720 I really love the beauty in Jeff's work, 805 00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:23,840 those fantastic rainbow-coloured neurons all connected together 806 00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:28,040 in incredibly complex and dense networks. 807 00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:31,480 And, of course, all those connections are being made 808 00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:36,520 at the moment inside the brain of my baby inside my womb... 809 00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:43,640 ..and that's an extraordinary thought in itself, but I think the 810 00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:48,960 point at which he will really start to become human is the point where 811 00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:52,600 we get that interplay between nature and nurture, 812 00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:57,040 the process that really carves out a human mind, 813 00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,440 and that starts at birth. 814 00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:10,080 'And here he is, my beautiful baby boy.' 815 00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:14,520 'He's very, very new, and he's certainly very helpless.' 816 00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:17,520 'He's also got a big head.' 817 00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:25,520 'He is full of potential, having emerged into the world, 818 00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:29,120 'and he's ready to learn to become a human being.' 819 00:58:59,960 --> 00:59:02,880 Subtitles by Red Bee Media