>> ON SUNDAY 9:00 P.M. EASTERN
ON "AFTER WORDS" NATIONAL REVIEW EXECUTIVE EDITOR -- EXCESSIVE
DISCUSSES HIS BOOK MELTING POT
OR CIVIL WAR.
HE MAKES THE CASE OF OPEN
BORDERS.
HE'S INTERVIEWED BY THE FORMER
COMMISSIONER OF NATURALIZATION
SERVICE.
>> WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE NEXT
SEVERAL DECADES PARTLY BECAUSE
OF FALLING BIRTH RATES AMONG
NATIVEBORN AMERICANS IMMIGRATION
REALLY IS A BIG DRIVER AND A
COMPOSITION THAT IMMIGRATION IS
NOT JUST A DISCREET MATTER OF
IMMIGRATION POLICY BUT BECAUSE
OF HUMAN CAPITAL POLICY AND THE
CHARACTER OF OUR SCHOOLS AND
FUTURE WORKFORCE AND MUCH ELSE.
IT IS A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE TOUCHING ON MANY DIFFERENT
SECTORS.
>> WATCH THIS WEEKEND ON C-SPAN2 BOOK TO BE.
>> EARLIER TODAY BEFORE
DEPARTING FOR THE G20 SUMMIT IN
ARGENTINA PRESENT HIM SPOKE WITH
REPORTERS AT THE WHITE HOUSE TO
TALK ABOUT HIS FORMER ATTORNEY
MICHAEL COHEN RELATIONS WITH CHINA AND PROPOSE MEETING WITH
RUSSIAN PRESIDENT VLADIMIR PUTIN
WHERE [INAUDIBLE]
>> HE PUT OUT A STATEMENT
TALKING ABOUT A PROJECT WHICH
WAS ESSENTIALLY I GUESS MORE
OR LESS AN OPTION THAT WE WERE
LOOKING AT IT IN MOSCOW AND
EVERYONE KNEW ABOUT IT.
IT WAS WRITTEN IN HIS PAPERS AND
ONE ON PROJECT. IT WAS DURING THE EARLY PART OF
DICKSTEIN AND EVEN BEFORE THAT
IT LASTED A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME
AND I DID NOT DO THE PROJECT.
I DECIDED NOT TO DO THE PROJECT.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT DOING A
PROJECT BUT DOING NOT A PROJECT.
MICHAEL COHEN. [INAUDIBLE CONVERSTATIONS]
HE'S DOING CONVICTED I GUESS
YET YOU PUT IT INTO LEGAL TERMS BUT HE WAS CONVICTED WITH A
FAIRLY LONG-TERM SENTENCE ON
THINGS TOTALLY UNRELATED TO THE
TRUMP ORGANIZATION.
IT HAD TO DO WITH MORTGAGES AND
CHEATING THE IRS PERHAPS A LOT
OF DIFFERENT THINGS. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY BUT HE WAS
CONVICTED OF VARIOUS THINGS
UNRELATED TO US. HE WAS EVEN A FAIRLY LONG
SENTENCE AND A WEAK PERSON AND
BY BEING WEAK UNLIKE OTHER
PEOPLE THAT YOU WATCH HE'S A
WEAK PERSON AND WHAT HE IS
TRYING TO DO IS GET A REDUCED
SENTENCE. HE'S LYING ABOUT A PROJECT THAT
EVERYBODY KNEW ABOUT.
WE WERE OPEN WITH IT AND
THINKING ABOUT BUILDING A BUILDING AND I GUESS IT WAS AN
OPTION AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU
WOULD CALL IT BUT WE DECIDED
ULTIMATELY NOT TO DO IT AND
THERE WOULD'VE BEEN NOTHING
WRONG IF I DID DO IT.
IF I DID DO IT THERE WOULD BE
NOTHING WRONG.
>> [INAUDIBLE]
>> HE'S LYING TO GET A REDUCED
SENTENCE.
>> I DON'T KNOW WHEN I DECIDED
BUT DURING A PERIOD OF TIME I
WAS NEVER VERY ENTHUSED BY THE
SUMMER DURING A PERIOD WHEN I
WAS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT.
MY FOCUS WAS RUNNING FOR
PRESIDENT. WHEN I WENT FOR PRESIDENT THAT
IS I MEAN I'M NOT ALLOWED TO DO
BUSINESS. I WAS DOING A LOT OF DIFFERENT
THINGS WHEN I WAS RUNNING.
AFTER I WON OBVIOUSLY I DON'T
DO BUSINESS. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY -- I RAN A
BUSINESS AND IN FACT I WAS THE
ONLY PERSON THAT CAN PAINT SIMULTANEOUSLY RAN A BUSINESS.
THAT WAS A PROJECT I DID NOT DO.
IT WAS A PROJECT AND NUMBER ONE
IS THAT I WAS FOCUSED AND
RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT WANTED
THAT TO BE MY PRIMARY FOCUS NOT
RUNNING OR BUILDING A BUILDING.
>> [INAUDIBLE]
>> THIS WAS A DEAL THAT DID NOT
HAPPEN. NO DEAL.
THIS WAS AN OPTION AND I GUESS I
DON'T KNOW WHAT I WANT TO BE
SPECIFIC SO TO MY WAY OF
THINKING THERE WAS AN OPTION IT
WAS AN OPTION I DECIDED NOT TO
DO.
WE DO NOT HAVE EXCUSE ME --
EXCUSE ME, THIS WAS AN OPTION IN
A FORUM BUT HERE VERY SIMPLE WE
HAD A POSITION TO POSSIBLY DO A
DEAL TO BUILD A BUILDING OF SOME
KIND IN MOSCOW. I DECIDED NOT TO DO IT.
THE PRIMARY REASON THAT COULD
HAVE BEEN OTHER REASONS BUT THE
PRIMARY REASON WAS SIMPLE.
I WAS FOCUSED ON RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT.
THERE WOULD BE NOTHING WRONG IF
I DID DO IT.
I WAS RUNNING MY BUSINESS WHILE
I WAS CAMPAIGNING AND THERE'S A
GOOD CHANCE I WOULD NOT HAVE ONE
IN WHICH I WOULD HAVE GONE BACK
INTO THE BUSINESS AND WHY SHOULD
I LOSE OPPORTUNITY?
SO, HERE IS THE STORY.
AND LOOK AT THE PAPERS THAT
MICHAEL COHEN WROTE BEFORE HE
TESTIFIED IN THE HOUSE AND OR
SENATE. THEY TALK ABOUT HIS POSITION AND
WHAT HE'S TRYING TO DO BECAUSE
HE'S A WEAK PERSON, NOT A VERY
SMART PERSON. [INAUDIBLE CONVERSTATIONS]
HE'S TRYING TO DO IS IT IS VERY
SIMPLE -- HE GOT HIMSELF A BIG
PRISON SENTENCE AND TRYING TO
GET A MUCH LESSER PRISON
SENTENCE BY MAKING UP A STORY.
HERE'S THE THING.
EVEN IF HE WAS RIGHT IT DOES NOT
MATTER BECAUSE I WAS ALLOWED TO
DO WHATEVER I WANTED TO DO.
I WAS RUNNING MY BUSINESS A LOT
OF DIFFERENT THINGS DURING THE
CAMPAIGN SO VERY SIMPLY MICHAEL
COHEN IS TRYING TO GET A REDUCED
SENTENCE FOR THINGS THAT HAVE
NOTHING TO DO WITH ME.
LET ME GO A STEP FURTHER.
I THINK IT WAS JANUARY IT WAS
JUST REPORTED BY CATHERINE
HARRIS TERRIFIC REPORTER ON
FOX.
SHE TALKS ABOUT A LETTER HE
SIGNED AND I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER
IT AND IT SPECIFICALLY TALKS
ABOUT THIS DEAL.
IT WAS A PUBLIC DEAL AND EVERYONE KNOWS ABOUT THIS DEAL.
I WAS NOT TRYING TO HIDE ANYTHING.
OKAY.
I CANNOT UNDERSTAND --
>> [INAUDIBLE]
>> WE WILL TALK ABOUT IT BUT WE
HAVE A LOT OF THINGS.
>> WHAT IS YOUR SENSE ABOUT A
TRADE DEAL WITH CHINA AND WHAT YOU EXPECT WITH PRESIDENT XI?
>> I THINK WERE CLOSE TO DOING
SOME THEY WOULD SIGN UP BUT I DON'T KNOW IF I WANT TO DO IT
BECAUSE WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW
IS BILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF
DOLLARS COMING INTO THE UNITED
STATES IN THE FORM OF TARIFFS
AND TAXES. I DON'T REALLY KNOW BUT I WILL
TELL YOU I THINK CHINA IS OPEN
TO MAKE A DEAL AND I AM BUT FRANKLY, I LIKE VIDEO WE HAVE
RIGHT NOW.
>> I WILL PROBABLY MEET WITH
PRESIDENT PUTIN.
WE'RE NOT DETERMINED THAT MEETING AND I WAS THINKING ABOUT
IT BUT WE'D LIKE TO HAVE IT.
IT'S A GOOD TIME TO HAVE THE
MEETING AND I'M GETTING A FULL
REPORT AS TO WHAT HAPPENED WITH
RESPECT TO THE PLANE THAT WILL
DETERMINE.
>> [INAUDIBLE]
>> I HAVE A COUPLE REPORTS AND
WERE GETTING A FINALIZE REPORT.
WE ARE GETTING A FINALIZE REPORT NOW HAVE IT ON THE PLANE
SOMETIME SOON.
>> [INAUDIBLE] WHY ARE YOU
MEETING WITH THE CROWN PRINCE?
>> I WOULD HAVE MET WITH THEM
BUT WE DID NOT SET THAT ONE UP AND I HAVE A MEETING WITH
PRESIDENT SHEET WHICH IS A
PRESIDENT -- IMPORTANT MEETING
HAVING TO DO A TRADE AND I'M
MAKING ABOUT THREE OR FOUR
MEETINGS WITH JUST ENOUGH TIME.
>> [INAUDIBLE]
>> I WILL BRING IT UP.
YES. >> [INAUDIBLE]
>> I DON'T HEAR YOU.
THERE'S A HELICOPTER.
>> [INAUDIBLE]
>> THE QUESTION WAS ASKED ABOUT
THE APARTMENT WITH RESPECT TO
PAUL MANAFORT WHO IS VERY SAD
WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO PAUL, THE
WAY HE'S BEEN TWEETED. I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYONE TWEETED
SO POORLY.
QUESTION WAS ASKED BY THE NEW YORK POST AND I SAID I HAVE NOT
OFFERED ANY PARDONS AND I THINK
THEY ASKED FOR WHATEVER WITH YOU
AND I SAID I'M NOT TAKING
ANYTHING OFF THE TABLE. THAT WAS DONE IS A QUESTION FROM
THE NEW YORK POST.
>> [INAUDIBLE]
>> IF COHEN IS SUCH A BUM WHY
DID YOU HIRE HIM, HAVE THEM ON
YOUR PAYROLL FOR 12 YEARS AND
HAVE THEM DO SO MUCH OF YOUR
DIRTY WORK --
>> BECAUSE A LONG TIME AGO HE
DID ME A FAVOR. A LONG TIME AGO HE DID ME A
FAVOR.
>> [INAUDIBLE] >> NOT AT ALL.
I'M NOT WORRIED AT ALL ABOUT
HIM. TAKE A LOOK AT HIS WRITTEN
DOCUMENT GO BACK TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT HE WROTE AND I THINK IN
JANUARY HE IS A WRITTEN
STATEMENT AND THAT IS THE FAX.
YEAH.
>> [INAUDIBLE]
>> YOU CAN'T WITH THE
HELICOPTER. >> [INAUDIBLE]
>> WE ARE IN NEGOTIATION AND WE
DON'T GET BORDER SECURITY
POSSIBLE SHUTDOWN. >> [INAUDIBLE]
[BACKGROUND NOISES]
>> PRESIDENT SPEAKING BEFORE HE LEFT FOR ARGENTINA.
SENATE FAMILY BACK IN NOW.
THEY TOOK A SHORT RECESS. MY COVERAGE HERE ON.
>> PRESIDENT SPEAKING BEFORE HE
LEFT FOR ARGENTINA. SENATE FAMILY BACK IN NOW.
THEY TOOK A SHORT RECESS.
MY COVERAGE HERE ON