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coverage, right now. have a good day. >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. i'm brianna keilar and i welcome viewers here in the u.s. and around the world. we are beginning with breaking news today. a city on edge. awaiting an imminent announcement whether criminal charges will be filed in the deadly police shooting of rayshard brooks in atlanta. the 27-year-old husband and father of four fatally shot after taking a taser from police and fired it at one officer follow ag scuffle with two officers at a wendy's restaurant last friday night. both of the officers involved in the shooting are white. garrett rolfe on the right there is the man who shot brooks. he has been fired from the police force. devin bronsan on your left, placed on administrative duty. the faulty county district attorney is weighing murder, felony murder and voluntary manslaughter charges. we go to our reporter with
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details. what are you hearing? >> reporter: yeah. brianna, again, expecting to hear from the district attorney at 3:00. i can tell you we are starting to see a crowd gather here at the wendy's. i'll stell aside so you can see. this is where it happened. where rayshard brooks was killed by the police in atlanta and people who have shown up in the past few minutes weren't aware of this announcement. the district attorney said there were three actions on the table. he said he is looking at both officers, not just the former officer now garrett rolfe but also at the other officer who was the original responding officer, devin brosnan. it may not be one of those three charges and truth is, there may be no charges at all. the district attorney has not given an indication as to what he is looking at. he did tell us he was spending time from the point of that
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shooting late friday night until this announcement today looking at things like the ballistics, looking at the videos that we have had a chance to see ourselves. at first was struggling to get some of that video from the police in atlanta. also talking to additional witnesses who were out there. there were a lot of people at the wendy's that night, which is why we have different vantage points of what happened, and at different periods of time including the immediate aftermath and right before the shooting itself happened. so the district attorney has said he's looking and taking all of that into account. he initially said those were the three charges he was considering. the families of rayshard brooks said they want both officers charged and want them charged the same, because they feel as it the other officer could have intervened or said something to maybe prevent officer rolfe from firing those three shots, two of which hit rayshard brooks killing him on friday night.
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i've spoken with the police union as well. if officers are charged they said would represent them. if charges are presented, brianna, they feel it is premature and political in nature. they say that the officers have not received due process or a proper investigation at this point and point to the fact that both paul howard, the district attorney, and mayor keisha lance bottoms, elections coming up to cloud their judgment when it comes to thus according to the urine yoi union. the family wants to see both officers charged in the death of rayshard brooks. >> gallagher, thank you for that report. the president is pushing ahead with a killer rally for his supporters this weekend. really. doctors warn it's extremely likely it could result in coronavirus fatalities.
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the exact recipe for a super spreader event that the president's own health officials are warning against. it's indoors. it brings thousands and thousands of people close together. it does not require masks, and it involves loud talking and screaming, and yet the president defies the science, because by his own admission, he loves his big crowds and is trying to convince the american public in believing that the coronavirus is contained. it is not. here are the facts on the ground. ten states show a 50% rise in cases since last week. arizona, texas and florida all setting the daily record for new cases. in fact, today florida is reporting more than 2,600 new cases. how many stories have we seen where people in close quarters have become infected? bars, food plants, factories, graduation parties, nursing homes. despite all of these facts, the president is misleading
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americans on the severity of the virus. a virus that has already killed at least 117,000 americans just in a matter of months here. they continue to shun masks, and social distancing at events, even though it is scientifically indisputable that they contain and spread the spread and save lives. the vice president telling governors to use a completely misleading argument about testing and wrote an op-ed trying to declare the virus over saying the media is pushing a second wave. well, that's just not true. his own white house coronavirus task force has warned of a second wave. history tells us, there very well may be a second wave, but we are not even out of the first wave according to doctors and scientists. i'm sure tucker carlson and laura ingraham will use this clip to say, wait. what about the protests? media doesn't raise alarms. they may say about protests and spread of the virus. yes, we do. talking about it. talking about it with doctors
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and scientists who have raised the alarm about the spread. we have been asking protesters about it. they say it's worth the risk for social justice. that's what they say. but this is the president putting americans' health at risk for self-grandizement. and joining me, head of the division of ethics and says slowed the spread, cared for the most vulnerable, saved lives and created a solid foundation for whatever challenges we may face in the future. that's a cause for celebration not the media the fearmongering. do you think the vice president is being honest with the american people? >> brianna, no. absolutely not. in fact, he has engaged in morally reprehensible behavior because we're not out of the
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first wave in a notion the virus is tamped down to the point where we're just putting out embers, to use his term. that's just not true. the virus is flaring up in many states, and by the way, it's flaring up in a rate that's higher than any testing that's going on. so we know that it can't be a product of just test results. so when you tell governors, which have outbreaks going on, forget about it. don't worry about it. lying to your constituents, when the president says, let's all get together indoors without masks, but insistence on a liability provision on the ticket to say, don't sue me when you get sick? that's really irresponsible leadership. it's just -- horrible. >> what does that essentially, it's a waiver. right? what does that tell you? >> tells me that they know that the people who come to the rally they don't care about them except as a photo op because they're going to kill some of them and some of their family
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and friends. it tells me, too, that they're pretending like they can escape liability. those waivers aren't worth anything. you go into a dangerous situation and know it and can't say don't sue me even though i expose you to danger. that's worthless. we're seeing pure propaganda that is damaging to the american people. we're trying to get people to wear masks. brianna, just this week a couple of studies have been out, mask-wearing behavior really cuts down on the prevalence of the virus. it really stops exchange between people. so go around and be a lousy role model like trump is doing at this rally, or to go around and say, to your voters in these states, to lie, it's antithesis of response to public health. >> the vice president highlighted rate of 750 americans dieing a day. as a success. but as politico's playbook
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pointed out that's actually still, 270 deaths a year. what do you think about number and touting that number? >> i do know we've had 130,000 deaths. didn't have enough protective gear, didn't do enough testing right away because we didn't have tests. those deaths should be right on the doorstep of the president and white house. i don't see how you can declare a broken economy plus 130,000 deaths and climbing any kind of victory. what sort of victory is that? so if the president wants to just say, look, i don't care. i'm just going back to business as usual, because that's what i freed to get re-elected, then they work at politics. no pandemic was ever defeated by a politician. it's defeated by public health. >> art, thank you.
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art caplan. appreciate it. and awaiting charges of rayshard brooks at a wendy's in georgia, a georgia lawmakers reacts to a sheriff in her state saying the killing by police was justified. and the aunt jemima brand will retire the image acknowledging its racist past. why this won't be the last to go away. this is cnn special live coverage. of 1,2,3 medicines with trelegy. the only fda-approved, once-daily 3 in 1 copd treatment. ♪ with trelegy and the power of 1, 2, 3, i'm breathing better. trelegy works 3 ways to open airways, keep them open, and reduce inflammation for 24 hours of better breathing. trelegy won't replace a rescue inhaler for sudden breathing problems. trelegy is not for asthma. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure before taking it.
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gloria butler. senator, thanks for joining us. >> thank you so much for allowing me to be with you today. >> so you're awaiting this decision on charges as really the country is here, because we're expecting it this afternoon. what do you want to hear from the fulton county d.a.? >> well, i'd like to see charges that are appropriate to the crime, because it was a crime to shoot somebody in the back. >> and what would that look like to you? >> well, probably -- either murder charges or -- according to district attorney paul howard, he would probably charge murder or voluntary manslaughter, and i would be comfortable with those charges. >> i want -- as you know, there are people who have very
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different voinpoints of view wht comes to this. i want to play one, sheriff alphonso williams told me this yesterday here on the show. >> to officers hit with that taser, that he, all of his muscles locked up and he'll have inability to move and to respond, and yet he is still responsible for every weapon on his belt. so if that officer had been hit, he still has a firearm on his side, and the likelihood of him being stomped in the head or having his firearm taken and used against him was a probability, and so he did what he needed to do, and this was a completely justified -- >> which is -- >> -- shooting. >> i wonder, senator, how you respond to that? >> the think about a taser it is not a deadly weapon. it may -- cause you to not be
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able to move for a moment, but it is not a deadly weapon. so -- you know, there are going to be different views on using a taser on someone anyway. so i respect his views, and i hope he respects mine. >> now, this morning senate republicans announced their police reform plan here in washington. south carolina senator tim scott, the lone african-american republican senator was front and center in this announcement and this is what he said about racism in the united states. >> we are not a racist country. we deal with racism because there's racism in the country. both are mutually truth, they're both truth not mutually exclusive. so i don't worry about the deskdesk, definitions people use. good for headlines but not for policy. we're going to focus on that. >> do you see a difference
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between those two descriptions as he suggests? >> did he say, we're not a racist country? >> yeah, that's right. he said it's not a racist country. basically there are just racist things that happen. >> we are racist, a racist country. i do see it different from him. how could there just be certain things that are racist? we are a racist country. it's simple as that. and it's been for a long, long time. >> georgia state senator gloria butler, i thank you for coming on the program. thank you so much for coming on. moments from now house speaker nancy pelosi will join me on the senate republican plan for police reform and where she'd be willing to compromise. plus, i'll ask her about
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and iconic and centuries-old brand breakfast foods acknowledging. origins based on a racial stereotype and it's going away for good. quaker oats is retiring its famed aunt jemima line of food products and a company owned by pepsico marketed pancake mix, grits, syrup with the face of a black woman since it took over the brand in 1926. the original logo from the 1800s used the very racist mammy stereotype of a smiling full-figured black woman who was wearing a headscarf. over the years the look was changed, but the name remained, a name that came from a minstrel show tune sung by slaves. in a statement quaker oats
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said -- we must take a hard look at our port follow yore folio o make sure they meet our consumers expectations. another food product using racial tropes uncle ben's will disappear. owner of the mars company plans to evolve, the word they use, food brands visual identity. a new name and logo not yet decided. and with us, b smith enterprises, i want your reaction. you called on quaker oats several years ago to change the logo you said it was "the epitome of female humiliation." they told you they would never do it. now they have. what do you think? >> first of all, brianna, thank you for having me. it's something that is a blessing. i mean, we're at an iconic shift
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in our country about racial relationships and understanding how -- we're going to all -- has been something that -- let me just say my wife, the late barbara ed a young in a store, we were black girl who happened to, well over a decade ago, a box of pancake with aunt jemima. my wife waked up, do you know the image, who it is? the young lady says basically, somebody very important. that struck her as being unbelievably sad that she didn't know this really represented something negative, and so that was the start of barbara b. smith making sure young girls particularly young african-american girls, would not have the situation where they would have stereotypes that were showing not the best of
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them, but the history of slavery. >> stereotype s are powerful an have long-lasting effects. an example of that in this case with aunt jemima, something that happened to one of your waitresses. tell us. a customer actually calling your waitress aunt jemima? >> you know, it's so -- it still hurts me to this day. we have a restaurant isn't sag harbor and sitting on the deck. i was actually at the bar and a group of guys came in and a waitress, who was very large, was serving them and she was called aunt jemima and two separate tables, how things work out. one table predominantly black and one predominantly white overheard the conversation and literally made those people leave. a historic situation. we started this a decade-plus ago. i said to the people there, i said, no one would want to get
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an aunt jemima award. you can't give a scholarship in the name of aunt jemima. you could give a scholarship in the name of mrs. but per worth a -- butterworth and it wom have more value. not a single black girl in america wants to be called aunt gentleman my ma. imagine saying you remind me of aunt jemima or you em body the very talents of aunt jemima, they would be insulted. it met upon deaf ears over a decade ago and i am now so proud of this young lady named kirby. the future is for the young, and what she did with social media is what's changing the course of our country for the better. you know, there's a real shout-out to kirby more making this thing so millennials and people younger can see how difficult it is to be called the n word, the same as to be called aunt jemima.
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i'm very proud of what she did and i'm proud of what my wife had referenced it long before it was falling on deaf ears, the need to change and make this image go away and to find a suitable image that would be respected and admired and inspiring for others. >> dan, thank you for sharing your thoughts today. we really appreciate it. >> thank you for having me. next, the most powerful woman in congress will join us live. speaker nancy pelosi on the republican plan for policing. her demand for members to wear masks and what she thinks of the president's rally in tulsa. plus, just in. we are learning that tulsa just set its daily record for total positive cases. from rogue finger-painters...
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ending qualified immunity for police officers. the republican proposal instead incent vistivizes police depart to enforce changes. their plan written by the own african-american in the senate. this is tim scott, and majority leader mitch mcconnell this morning. >> the george floyd incident certainly accelerated this conversation, and we find ourselves in a place with a package that i think speaks to the families that i spoke with yesterday who lost loved ones. we hear you. i think this package speaks very clearly to the young person who's concerned when stop by the law enforcement officers. we see you. >> if we don't have the votes on a motion to proceed, that means that politics is more important than restoring confidencen in communities of color in the ian institutions of authority.
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>> if we tauthey want to make a and not just make a point, i encourage them to get on the bill in a way the senate moves forward when actually trying to get an outcome rather than just sparring back and forth. >> and house speaker nancy pelosi is joining me live now from capitol hill. speaker, thank you so much for being with us. >> thank you. my pleasure to be with you, brianna. >> you've seen the republican plan now. what is your reaction to it? >> my reaction is the same as the members of the congressional black caucus, of which there are 55 in the house and senate. congresswoman karen bass is the chair of the caucus. she reacted to this plan along with jerry nadler, the chair of the judiciary committee and other members today by saying it was inadequate. we don't need a study about chokeholds.
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we don't need a study about a warrant -- no-knock warrants and the rest. we know what we need to do. she is determined that we will act in a bipartisan -- congresswoman bass, determined to act as much as possible in a bipartisan way but we don't need a window dressing toothless bill. we need to take action that is real. and as mentioned in our legislation, we have strong provisions that ban chokeholds, that ban racial profiling, that ban a no-knock warrant, that have real data collection that is accessible and transparent from one department to the next. so it isn't about just recognizing. as she said, they have taken their lead from some of our pointers, but they have pulled their punch when it came to getting the job done, but it's
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a -- again, we never have seen hundreds of thousands of people day in and day out on the streets of our country and spread throughout the world to say, we need justice in policing. we want to recognize those who do their jobs well, but we cannot tolerate the brutality of some, and so this legislation is very important, and i would hope rather than name-calling, as senator -- well, he calls himself, so i can reference it, grim reaper, senator mcconnell, who never really wants to get legislation done but just wants to have a bill out there that recognizes the concern, but does not act upon it in a way that will make a difference. >> so suffice to say you really do not like the senate republican bill, but i wonder, and i want to ask you a question about process.
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the reason i'm asking it, it may speak to whether something actually gets done here in terms of a compromise. would you encourage senate democrats to start a debate on this republican bill, even though you do not like it, just so that this process can get started and you can move towards a compromise with provisions that do you like? >> well, that's up to the senate democrats. senator booker and senate harris very much a part of putting together the legislation we all stood behind under leadership of the congressional black caucus, house and senate by caucus. so i take my lead from them in the senate. in the house, we will be passing this bill very soon. it is being marked up today. it may go over until tomorrow. i'm not sure. depends on the committee work. and voter rules, and then we will bring it to the floor.
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really, how much study do you have to do about a chokehold? or racial profiling? or no-knock warrants in the case of drug cases and the rest? one, it's great, i love what the president said about data collection. if you're not sharing it, it's not transparent from one department to the next or to the public, then it's -- what good is it, if it isn't available for accountability? >> but with the aim of taking that, which obviously you do not like and so clearly laid out the reasons you don't like it. and i know you don't want to tell other democrats in the other chamber how to do their job, but the difference is moving forward on the senate bill, or not moving forward on the senate bill, and essentially killing all chances to get a compromise. you know, how do you see that? which way would you want to go? >> what is the compromise?
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you can have chokeholds? no-knock warrants? that you can do racial profiles? you can collect data but can't share it. i don't see that as a compromise. but i'll leave it up to karen bass, chairman of the black caucus. she's put together a package and also chairs the crime committee of the judiciary committee. she knows of what she speaks and how she writes legislation. i'll leave it up to them to go. we always want to have bipartisanship on an issue of this magnitude, but it has to be, it has to be real. this is about injustice, and we have another injustice at the same time, which is disparity and the impact of the coronavirus. on communities of color in our country. we see, also, a resistance to passing legislation that would address that disparity, which would record those differences,
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and which would act upon it. testing, tracing, treating, social distancing, to get the job done, but, again, to address the injustice of it all to communities of color. senat senator mitch mcconnell. has said we don't want any of that. we don't want any of this and we don't want any of that. well, let's see if we can't work together to get the job done for the american people. it's an important -- there's so many injustices, whether it's health care, whether it's the economy, whether it's environmental injustice. the list goes on and on, but in terms of the coronavirus, we have to defeat that virus, and one place to do so is in communities of color. >> you know, anyone who knows your legislative record knows you know how to negotiate. you know how to whip votes. you know how to compromise. we saw it recently with the
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usmca. i want to go back to this, because there are people in your caucus who don't want to see a compromise. it's only a few months here before the election. i knnoknow their thinking on ths why not allow -- they do want, some of them do want an issue, not the compromise. why give the president perhaps a victory when they could hope that a democrat is in the white house and this might be something the democrats can champion? i will ask you, to senator -- okay. so to -- >> i don't know if you have an example of one person or two, but that is not the case. we're talking about life and death. we're talking about, you know, there were people that said, why did you give them the mexico/u.s. trade agreement? give him that victory? i said, well, it's a victory for the american people. collateral benefit to him, but why would we, when it came to jobs, the environment and prescription drugs and other issues we dealt with there, we'd
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rather have legislation that creates jobs and is go for the american people than at issue with republicans. we're talking about life and death, chokeholds, we're talking about 8:46 on a person's neck. we're talking about getting the job done. i completely disagree with the characterization that people would rather have other people die so that we would have a political issue, and it simply is not true. >> i just want to be clear, speaker -- >> it's certainly not true of karen bass, who's been working her whole life for 47 years working on criminal justice issues. we couldn't be better served than by that. so somebody has said that to you, i grant, you may have heard that. i haven't. >> okay. i want to be clear that the characterization of what i was saying was not about you mentioned people dieing. i just want to be clear. that wasn't my characterization, and i flwill say to you, people-
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democrats are not saying that in public. i want to talk to you about something else. sorry, speaker? >> no. i haven't heard anybody say that at all. if they say about u.s./mexico trade agreement but not about this. no. >> i want-didn't ok --. i want to talk about something else. the past weeks renewed debate over confederate statues. i wonder, you were first speaker back in 2006. i wonder now with hindsight, do you wish that you would have removed them from the capitol then? >> well, i removed robert e. lee. i put him down in to the -- the crypt. right now the mood in the country is so completely different, and the desire to rid ourselves of any of these
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symbols of bigotry and had trit trit -- hatred is much stronger. legislation will come forward and hopefully can could pass the house and senate and be signed by the president. i have announcements tomorrow about all of this as well, but, no. robert e. lee was a big one. there are, i think it's 11 statues in the capitol. now, they're sent there by their states. so their states determine who that represents them in the capitol, but i think now with the mood in the country, it is such that these states are going to have to rethink. they can send them, but i don't know that we have to display them. that's the discussion we'll be involved in. i decided we weren't displaying robert e. lee when i was speaker, and at that we put rosa parks and we put many more sojourner truth. we tried to, shall we say,
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diversify the manifestations of the american people that are in the capitol just to name two. >> let's talk about masks now. if republicans do refuse to wear them in committee meetings if they go on the floor, and they're not wearing a mask, refusing to wear one, will they be refused entry to those meetings and on the floor? >> well, the floor and the meetings are two different things. the floor is a place we have regulations put forth by the sergeant-at-arms and the capitol physician's office of just a limited number of people on the floor. at any given time for a short period of time to come off and on to vote. in the committee meetings we're talking about meetings where you come and you stay, and you discuss and the rest. and that is the memo that this -- capitol physician put out yesterday to say, and in those meetings, members must
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wear a plastic. it went pretty well today, because this is about stopping the spread of the virus. it's also not only to protect yourself, to protect others, and people are very -- members are very concerned. i've heard from many members who say how can i go into that room where other people are not wearing a mask and then go home to my home where my children are or my parents are, and have a risk to them, because somebody didn't want to wear a mask? i think it's going well here. what i am concerned about is the attitude of the president and the vice president of the united states. for the president to have this ego trip he wants to take to tulsa, to have a mass rally of people coming together endangering their own health and the people that they go home to. for the vice president of the united states to talk about, to go visiting places without a mask is a bad example to the
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public. today is june 17th. on march 17th, there were 100 known deaths from the coronavirus in the united states. today on june 17th, there are over 117,000 deaths from the coronavirus. a complete failure on the part of this administration for calling it a hoax, it's going to go away magically, there's going to be a miracle. for the vice president to have an op-ed in the paper today saying what the foundation that they laid is cause for celebration, 117,000 deaths to 2 million infections a cause for celebration. i don't think so. we have in our h.e.r.o.e.s. act, testing, tracing, and social distance to defeat the virus.
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we don't have the a cure, hopefully soon, but we do have testing. >> do you worry the president going to tulsa people can die as a result of going to his rally? >> i worry they can become infected. we don't know how it would go from there. but the, all of the science have spoken out, from the leading health? stugzs and academic institutions that people should be tested, that say the should wear masks; that we're way behind testing in our country. and the rate of death in our country -- we're among the worst in the world because we didn't pay serious attention to this. i'm a mom and a grandmother and i just can't even tolerate the thought of -- that the leadership in our country -- we we're putting important money, giving them important money for
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all of these things and they're ignoring the need we have for increased testing, treatment, and separation, wearing masks and the rest. it's it's a danger to the president himself and he's our president. we don't want him to be endangered. >> i want to ask you about the president and his health. you have seen the video of him at west point. he was walking unsteadily. he said he wanted to make sure he didn't slip down that ramp. there was an image of him trying to drink a cup of water, where he needed sort of an extra hand to help. do you have any concerns about his health? >> i have concerns about the health of the american people, i have concerns about the statements the president has made, minimizing the risk the coronavirus has made to their good health. that's what i'm concerned about. of course we always are
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concerned about the health and safety of the president and vice president of the united states and their families. what they should reciprocate in kind and have some concern about the health of the american people and not blame it on the press. they're blaming this concern about the virus on the press, that it's something you all cooked up. in terms of what they have done, it's cause for celebration. i don't think so. but we really have to -- this -- we have to get this under control. 103 months ago, 117,000 now calls for celebration. no, mr. vice president, you make me sad because you're a person of faith. we're prayful oabout praying for a cure and a vaccine and for the good health of the american people, not to minimize the risk they are taking because the president doesn't want to wear a mask and he wants an ego trip in tulsa, oklahoma.
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just as coronavirus cases are spiking in 21 states, an official tells kn that the president has largely tuned out of the efforts to contain the virus and that he and his closest aids are in denial. jim acosta has this reporting. what are you hearing? >> reporter: this is something we've been tracking for some time now, how the president has turned his attention away from the coronavirus. and a official close to the task force who said other officials are in denial and they're not dealing with the reality of the situation when it comes to the pandemic. oth other sources say that's not the
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case but that he's tuned to the economy right now and that he's essentially moved on. we saw some of that play out, i think, in the campaign, setting up the rally for this saturday in tulsa. i tried a few months ago on whether the president will take responsibility if, people who go to the rally on saturday, somehow get sick from the coronavirus. she would not answer the question. tried to draw an equivalency between people going the rally this saturday and protesters in the streets the last couple of weeks after the death of george floyd. they just don't want to deal with these questions. quite often you'll see officials in the white house, including president and vice president, not wearing masks. and so on. and you know, one of the things we've seen in our reporting, my colleagues reporting this, some members of the task force are holding side meetings to have these kinds of discussions about pertinent issues on their own,
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away from the daily coronavirus -- or we should say, regular coronavirus task force meetings. they don't have them on a daily basis anymore. there's one today. and one of the things that shows you, as to how the task force is not relevant to what's happening at the white house anymore. we understand the task force hasn't even been asked about whether it's a good idea for the president to hold this rally in tulsa this weekend. i talked to an official and he said, listen, the white house knows better than to ask health experts on the task force whether it's a good idea, because, quite frankly, it's not a good idea. >> don't ask if you know what the answer will be and you don't like it. thank you so much. >> reporter: you bet. ♪ top of the hour now.