♪ >> in the "after the show show" we'll talk to kyle carpenter about his new book you're worth it. >> we'll see you tomorrow. >> don't forget to run to the radio. >> bill: breaking news now from overnight. turkey says it is set to attack the largest kurdish-held city in syria. if that happens, it will be another escalation in this short-lived war. reports of a deal struck with russia and assad as well. complicated thick stuff here. one step at a time. hope you had a great weekend. >> sandra: it is looking beautiful out there. good morning, everyone. i'm sandra smith. the pentagon defending president trump's decision to pull troops from northern syria saying the u.s. did not want to go to war with a long-standing nato ally in turkey. here is lindsey graham on that just a moment ago.

>> it's quickly deter orriteing inside of syria. i blame turkey. kipling sanctions imposed by the to supplement what the trump administration has done. we'll send a signal to turkey that's unmistakable in the eyes of erdogan and the world and we are going to break his economy until he stops the blood shed. >> bill: watch that story from the hill. steve harrigan is on the ground in northeastern syria. steve. >> in the past 24 hours the entire battleground here has changed. put it simply things have simply gotten just a lot bigger. this started out according to turkey as an anti-terror operation. what we might be seeing now is the start of a war. a war between two nations. one a member of nato, the other backed by russia. overnight kurdish forces who say they have been abandoned by the u.s. made a deal with the assad government in damascus, a russian-backed syrian government for help.

syrian government forces are already on the way entering the battlefield here in northeastern syria. so the battle just got much bigger with the syrian government involved. signs on the ground to the fighting. this is not a conventional war. there is real brutality on this battlefield. regular forces without discipline sometimes changing uniform dragging people out of cars, executing prisoners on the battlefield. a lot of disturbing video coming out of this fight showing the brutal hatred and a convoy hit yesterday that had gunmen on it and a lot of international journalists, nine people killed in the explosion. as far as the u.s. presence here the small military presence has been pulled out of northern syria. people are trying to get away from the fighting any way they can. the number of civilians on the move continuing the rise. 130,000 people are fleeing this battle which got all the bigger, bill, back to you. >> bill: steve harrigan on the

grounld ground. thank you from northeastern sir ya. >> sandra: capitol hill the top russian advisor fiona hill arrived for questioning before the house panels leading the impeachment investigation. there she is arriving. mike emanuel is live on the hill with more what to expect this morning. good morning. >> we saw fiona hill go behind closed doors moments ago preparing for that session. interview with lawmakers in about an hour or so. fiona hill was a leading advisor to the white house on russia including europe, russia and also ukraine. she is expected to speak about her work there at the white house. she left her position this summer but is expected to answer questions in a private deposition with lawmakers and staff today. then on thursday the congressional committee involved in the impeachment probe will hear from gordon

sondland. he made president trump's case. the chairman leading the probe says it may not be necessary to hear from the actual whistleblower, the person at the center of this controversy. >> well, our primary interest now is making sure that person is protected. indeed now there is more than one whistleblower that they are protected. and given that we already have the call record, we don't need the whistleblower who wasn't on the call. >> expect republican lawmakers to push back hard on that and also making the case and expressing concern about all these interviews happening behind closed doors. >> if adam schiff wants to have it behind closed doors my job is to pick the lock and open it up and say look at what has been happening. the look at the lies told and the hearings had and nothing has came from it. >> the concern is quotes can be cherry picked from day-long interviews. republican members continue to push for the full transcripts

to be released. we'll see what fiona hill has to say to lawmakers today. >> bill: guy lewis out of florida. what do you expect from the interview behind closed doors today? >> i think the democrats are going to start building the foundation of what they claim to be their house of impeachment. finally putting on witnesses who have some firsthand information who are on the ground. now, ms. hill resigned well before the july phone call where the president actually released was ahead of the game here and released the transcript of that phone call. >> bill: fiona hill was the top russia advisor in the white house until this past summer. there is a whole series of interviews set to take place this week on capitol hill. what is happening on that, guy, and where do you believe democrats -- where do you think they would like to be by the end of this week?

>> i think they will establish -- they may get some traction on this. they'll establish that there was this kind of shadow movement, this kind of behind back doors movement maybe, maybe led by mayor giuliani. of course, that might create some problems for the president because look, he is going around -- this is who president trump is. he is going around the conventional established procedures in the state department. he is sending over his private lawyer to have diplomatic discussions with the government of the ukraine, and of course the state department people who are entrenched don't like this one bit by passing them and sending in the mayor. so it will be fascinating to see how this turns out. >> bill: if there are developments on the whistleblower as well. you heard adam schiff. did you hear rand paul earlier today?

he is suggesting that even leaking this information to the c.i.a. employee, the whistleblower, that in itself is illegal. is there a case to be made there? >> i don't buy that, bill. frankly, i have some trouble with kind of running away from the whistleblower as a witness. look, as a prosecutor, i could never, never in a million years come out and create this case, all this hoopla and then say well look, you know, i've decided not to call the main witness and we are just going to rely on the transcript, which is president himself has already released. so, you know, i think that kind of hurts the democrats from a building a case perspective. >> bill: back to schiff now. he was on cbs. a longer clip now from sunday. watch here, guy. >> our primary interest right now is making sure that person is protected.

indeed now there is more than one whistleblower that they are protected. we want to make sure we uncover the full details about the condition alt of either the military aid or the meeting with the ukraine president. it may not be necessary to take steps to have the identity of the whistleblower. >> bill: i have an inclination on what you just said. the president said adam schiff doesn't seem to want the whistleblower to testify. no? must testify how he got my ukraine conversation so wrong. we must determine the whistleblower's identity to determine why it was done to the usa. can they stay confidential? can you accept written answers in an impeachment process? >> short answer is probably not. and indeed don't you think that the president and his lawyers should have an opportunity to confront their accuser?

shouldn't the president have some rights here? shouldn't they be able to bear down and ask did you go in to see schiff and schiff's people? did they tell you what to say and how to say it and how to write it? i'm still convinced that somebody helped this whistleblower write this complaint having studied the complaint. i think that's fair game, i really do. >> bill: some have suggested it went to a law firm. we'll see in the end if that happens. hunter biden is stepping down from the chinese board. it happened over the weekend on sunday in iowa joe biden responded to that headline. >> no one -- no one has asserted my son did a single thing wrong. no one has asserted that i have done any wrong except the lying president. no one in my family or associated with me will be involved in any foreign operation whatsoever, period. end of story. >> bill: want to get your

comment. 36 hours from now you'll see these candidates back on stage in a debate setting in columbus, ohio. guy, go. >> the vice president may be 100% right but that still doesn't make you immune from explaining, answering questions. how -- hunter biden, how did you get the job on the board of this major gas company in the ukraine? why were you being paid $50,000 a month? what did you do for that? why did the vice president come in and say look, the prosecutor that is investigating this very company, he has got to go. and if he doesn't go, you are not going to get money from the united states. those are legitimate questions, whether the vice president likes it or not. >> bill: hunter biden will give his first interview tomorrow morning from los angeles. when the president asked last week where is hunter?

apparently he is in california and see what he says about explaining this. guy lewis. thank you for your time. a lot to run through there. more on the interview with fiona hill and what might come next. the headliner is ken starr, former independent counsel and our guest next hour at 10:00 a.m. eastern time. >> sandra: a lot to keep track of with the ongoing conflict in syria. a scary scene in new orleans. >> oh my god. >> sandra: that is a hotel construction site collapsing killing at least two people and now a frantic search is on for one person still missing. we'll have a live report on this. >> bill: remarkable stuff. a family demanding answers after a police officer shoots and kills a woman in her own home. >> sandra: hundreds of isis

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>> what we're facing is u.s. forces trapped between a syrian/russian army moving north to take on the turkish army moving south. it puts us in a terrible position and the protection and safety and our service members comes first to me. we didn't sign up to fight turkey on behalf of the sdf. >> bill: mark esper defending

the u.s. troop withdrawal from syria and kurdish forceers cut a deal with the assad regime to fight off the turkish onslaught. jack keane, good morning to you. there is a lot of ways to look at this. how do you view it now in the developments in northeastern syria. >> clearly president erdogan told our president that he was not going to do harm. he was going to go in and establish a safe zone that we were trying to negotiate, by the way. those negotiations broke down. now he is killing civilians, destroying homes, and going beyond even what was being negotiated in terms of the breath and depth of that safe zone. i do think that sanctions that the president and the congress are proposing are very good and something we should do. the sooner we do it the better. i also believe the most important thing to do is to tell erdogan to stop this invasion, stop the killing.

we'll put our no fly zone in place and take controlling of the airspace again and shut the killing down right away. >> bill: would erdogan not continue his own strategic interests until he has accomplished his goals and then pull up? >> we would retaliate if he continued to do that is what i'm suggesting. erdogan doesn't want any part of dealing with the united states militarily. i think this is what we should have done at the outset to be frank about it. we are where we are right now. i do agree with the sanctions but i also think we have to enforce our airspace control and shut the killing down now. >> bill: you just said this is what we should have done from the beginning. what was that thing, general, how would you you have handled it? >> well, i would have told erdogan unequivocally listen, we're negotiating a safe zone here and let's continue to solve this problem diplomatically. you will try to establish this safe zone by force president

erdogan? we won't tolerate you doing that. we won't permit turkish airplanes to fly into syrian airspace we're controlling. i believe that would have been the end of it and gone back to diplomatic negotiation. >> there is a report thousands of women and children related to isis prisoners had a bit of a jail break over the weekend coming out of the refugee camp. how concerned are you that the isis prisoners there could follow suit? >> we're in syria for two reasons, bill. we destroyed the caliphate that was there that isis had. but we want to prevent their return. 18,000 of them not in detention centers operating between iraq and syria. there are 10,000 fighters in 20 different detention centers in syria. the syrian kurds are currently guarding and protecting those detention centers. as this conflict continues to escalate as you described earlier, what will happen is the kurds will uncover the detention centers and therefore

10,000 fighters back on the battlefield again which would absolutely be a very difficult and challenging situation. secondly, we're trying to contain iran from taking over eastern syria and grabbing all the oil fields and the two reasons why we're there. those reasons still matter. >> bill: general, who would not have thought that turkey would have acted in the way they have once u.s. forces were taken out of that area? it almost strikes me as a no-brainer. >> turkey has been threatening this for months. and we've had negotiations going on for months. some progress was being made. we were doing joint patrols with the united states and turkey. some of the syrian kurds were taking down fortifications. erdogan didn't think the negotiations were moving fast enough. and i really think we should have pushed back on him and i think we would still be in those negotiations. we'll get back to the negotiations eventually here that's for sure. >> bill: one last tweet here

this from today on syria from the president. very smart not to be involved in the intense fighting along the turkish border for a change, he writes. those that -- they have no idea what a bad decision they've made. why are they not asking for a declaration of war? last comment on that, general. >> well, i think we have all the reason to be in syria as i discussed. what we do not want is those 10,000 fighters getting out of those detention centers joining the other 18,000 and eventually isis hoisting the flag over territory that they retook in syria. that would be a threat to the united states, a threat to europe, and a threat to our allies in the region. we have good reason to keep less than 1,000 u.s. troops there assisting 60,000 syrian kurds and arabs to keep our foot on the throat of isis and also to make sure that iran does not run the table and take

all the oil fields in eastern syria. >> bill: it is complicated, runs deep and bloody at the moment. jack keane in washington thank you, sir. >> sandra: glaoems of joy turn to terror and grief. a young girl dies after being thrown from a carnival ride. what went wrong there? a community demanding justice after a black woman is shot and killed in her own home by a white police officer. we're live from texas with the latest on that next. >> not competent to investigate themselves criminally. the officer should be fired, arrested and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

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into a tragedy. a 10-year-old girl fell off a ride and airlifted to a hospital where she later died. that ride takes an individual and spins them to the ground. the area was closed to the amusement rides and games and canceled a planned parade for sunday. the incident in southern new jersey still under investigation. >> sandra: questions an outrage this morning after an african-american woman is shot and killed by a white officer inside of her own home in texas. fort woerlt police were called for a welfare check after a woman's neighbor noticed her front door is open. we're live in fort worth texas with more on what we're learning. >> all they're telling us is he has been a member of the department since april of last year and he is being

interviewed today internally. police have, however, released heavily edited body cam video. in that video it shows the fort worth police officers searching the perimeter, the outside perimeter of a home. a shadow appears in the window. you hear the officer say show me your hands. but seconds later he fires a shot through the window. on the other side of the glass was 28-year-old woman and her 8-year-old nephew who were up playing video games at the time. jefferson died in the bedroom and now the neighbor who summoned police because he saw that front door ajar says he is feeling tremendous guilt. >> when i made that call i didn't say there was a burglary or people were fighting. i didn't say anything that would make them think they

needed to have a gun. all they needed to do was knock on the door and ring the doorbell. >> the shooting sparked protests at what started out as a peaceful candlelight vigil. members of the community angry. the officer never identified himself and asking why he would have fired his gun when there was no immediate threat on a welfare check call? not to mention blindly firing that weapon into someone's home at a shadow. of course, this all comes just a few weeks after a former police officer over in dallas was convicted of murder and sentenced to 10 years behind bars after shooting an unarmed black man in his home when she says she mistook it for her own. back to you. >> sandra: thank you. >> bill: a few moments ago the dow set to open for a brand-new week. first opening since the president announced a partial

trade deal with china on friday late afternoon. how will investors respond? >> sandra: crews searching disprattly for a missing worker believed to be buried under the rubble of a collapsed hotel in new orleans. a live report on that next. what??? no, no no no no. battery power runs out. lifetime retirement income from tiaa doesn't. guaranteed monthly income for life. nooooo!

>> bill: :31, monday morning. at least two people dead. 20 injured in new orleans after a hotel construction site collapsed and here is video of that. watch here. >> oh my god. >> bill: not supposed to happen this way. sixth floors of the hard rock hotel under construction falling on the street on saturday. a search underway for a missing worker who might still be trapped in that debris. we have more on this now. jonathan, how did this happen? >> that's what they're trying to get to the bottom of. because they are still looking for this missing person first

responders consider this an active search and rescue mission. easier said than done. they have to go about the process slowly and cautiously. construction crews set up a crane over the weekend to shore up the hard rock hotel construction site which remains unstable following the collapse on saturday. >> our goal here is to continue to make the scene safe so we can continue getting into this building deeper and deeper for rescue purposes. >> amateur video taken from a trolley captured the moment saturday morning when a large section of outer wall on the hard rock hotel crashed down. multiple floors involved. more than 100 workers were inside. city officials say at least two people were killed. >> we do know that 30 people have been injured and evaluated in hospitals for this event. some were transported by multiple emergency medical services staffed by our

priority by our new orleans emergency medical services and some people went to the hospital on their own. >> most of those patients have been discharged. with the beginning of the work week city officials are concerned about traffic because of the hotel's downtown location and proximity to the french quarter tourist district. many of the major thoroughfares around the hotel have been closed for safety reasons so they are asking people who don't have to go downtown to work from home if at all possible. >> bill: jonathan serry working that story. more from new orleans as we get it here. >> sandra: mondays with maria. the dow opening lower after the u.s. and china reached a partial trade deal happening late friday afternoon as we learn china's trade with the u.s. has now dipped by double digits last month. that's year-over-year. maria bartiromo fox news channel, good morning to you.

so this is phase one of a deal the president is calling it. it happened late friday afternoon. it's a holiday and the bond markets are closed, the stock markets are open for trading. markets don't seem to be celebrating this. >> i don't think there is much here honestly, sandra. now we're hearing new reports that the chinese want to talk more before they actually sign on the dotted line. here is what we know. right now we know the chinese will be buying more agricultural products. that's a positive. but a deal cannot be just about the chinese buying more stuff from america as the president has talked about, the big ticket items include the intellectual property theft and forced transfer of technology. there is not anything in there about this but the administration seems to be overselling it. the people are talking about it being significant. when you look at it, it's not that significant. the chinese buy more agricultural products. they have to do that anyway. they have a massive swine flu fever going on causing 250

million pigs to die. 250 million dead pigs in china right now. they need agriculture. we know that. the other positive i would point to they've taken the limits off financial services companies. if you are a bank and want to open a bank in china you can eventually the chinese will take off the limits that only allowed you to own 49%. you can own it wholly owned. one sector financials. i don't see intellectual property theft. forced transfer of technology. the two sides wanted to sign this deal on paper november 15th at the apec conference happening in chile. the president and president xi will be there. from a bloomberg report the chinese want more time before they sign on the phase one of a deal. it shows you they are not so close and that's why you aren't seeing any reaction in the markets. >> sandra: we look at the effects this has on our

economy. what is happening in china. this is what they're buying from the united states and what they're selling to the united states. down double digits on both factors. this is exports to the u.s. down 18% year-over-year. imports from the u.s. and this is in september, right? year-over-year down nearly 21%. this trade war is taking a serious toll on china's economy. >> i would say china really wants to do a deal but they won't give in on some of the more important issues. the chinese economy is a lot slower than anyone thought and we're questioning what numbers are. we don't know if we can get truth on what the numbers are. it will have an impact on the rest of the world and impact trade everywhere. so we're looking at a slowdown in the economy. that will affect the u.s.

as the chinese economy worsens don't be surprised to see it show up in our manufacturing numbers as well. >> sandra: meanwhile to the news of the week as we await the i.g. report on fisa, you had mark meadows on your sunday morning show yesterday. fascinating interview. here is some of it. >> we believe it will be a scathing rebuke on the f.b.i.'s fisa process. not just the fourth and third fisa but the whole fisa process. what they knew, when they knew it. there is a real question in terms of did they turn a blind eye to flashing yellows and flashing red lights and go on through it in the interest of trying to dig up dirt on this president? >> sandra: meadows suggesting to you it will be a scathing rebuke of the f.b.i. >> i'm hearing the i.g. report will be out on friday and thick as a telephone book. it will include more than fisa

abuse. who was the -- somebody decided to insert donald trump into russia meddling into the united states. that's what we're waiting to find out. the fisa abuse i understand will include a piece of evidence which is a transcript between george papadopoulos, then a trump aide and informant. the informant says this is great news that russia has hillary clinton's emails and he answers i'm not happy about that. i would never do something like that. that's treason. because this talking to him was an informant the informant was wired and the conversation was transcribed. that transcription was left out of the fisa court. that is called exculpatory evidence and part of the report coming out on friday. >> sandra: you are hearing big as a phone book. >> that's what i'm hearing. >> bill: we have something to do on the weekend, then, a

phone book, right on. october baseball action, astros stunning the yankees in extra innings. here is how it went down. >> talking to the home plate umpire cory blaser. a fly ball into right. back at the wall, this game is over! >> shortstop, the walk-off home run in houston eveens up the series at one game each. yankees using nine different pitchers. wear down the bullpen. astros verlander pitched a gem. the series heads to new york to game three, four and five. in addition i have more for you, kid. what else have you got? i tell you what i've got. i've got cardinals and nats 2-0 washington as of today. >> sandra: i thought it was a fancy football update. >> bill: bengals lost. >> sandra: breaking news.

>> like i said last week the first two interviews totaling 20 hours, not one single thing was said in there that is classified. not one single thing was said in those respective interviews that the american people should not be able to see and hear. i was thinking about this last night. i think in those total of 20 hours of interviews with both ambassador volker and ambassador yovanovitch, i tli there was a total of 12 members of congress in those interviews. which means 423 members of congress weren't present to hear the testimony from the witnesses that mr. schiff has called. 423 members of congress who represent 3/4 of a million people who don't know what is going on. at some point looks like they'll be asked to vote on this. that seems to me exactly the wrong way to do this thing. we found out about an hour ago

that chairman schiff subpoenaed, dr. hill. she was going to come voluntarily. he will subpoena him to ask certain questions and keep those secret except the certain things he wants to leak to the american people. and the problem with this whole process is we don't get to hear some of the substantive things stated in these interviews particularly things stated by ambassador volker where he said there was no quid pro quo whatsoever. the process is the typical diplomatic process when the tax dollars of the american people are going to foreign governments for military and security assistance. so again we'll be in there for all eight or 10 hours, whatever it takes. the tragedy and crime here is that the american people don't get to see what's going on in these sessions. >> so with regards to process

and substance, on the process precedent whether it was the richard nixon impeachment or the bill clinton impeachment had rights for the minority, rights for the president and what should happen here is that there should be a vote. if the house democrats want to pursue impeachment, they should put their money where their mouth is and have a vote and there should be a process that allows the minority party to have subpoena party, that allows the president to have his counsel president at the depositions to be able to ask questions and present evidence. the democrats should be providing the minority and the president the same rights they would demand if the roles were reversed. now, instead what you are seeing the a strategy by adam schiff and the democrats to have closed-door depositions in

his bunker here in the basement of the united states capitol and then to cherry pick out facts that they think can be spun to best help make their case by also withholding other key facts and then also outright lying. the formula is there for the entire american public to see. it is playing out before our eyes. now on the substance. jim jordan spoke about ambassador volker. that transcript should have been released by now, a long time ago. to recap, because there are some people who are in the media who still haven't even covered this and there are others asking questions about what happened with regards to military aid, and they are ignoring this so i'll state it again. president zelensky had no idea that there was a hold on aid during the july 25th call. the read-outs of the july 25th call on both ukraine and u.s.

side mention nothing about a hold on aid or a quid pro quo. july 26th the day after that phone call ambassador volker met with president zelensky. during that meeting there was no reference to a hold on aid or a quid pro quo. in the weeks that follow ambassador volker is in constant contact with ukraine leadership and at no point do they make any reference to a hold on aid or a quid pro quo. it wasn't until after ukraine read a "politico" story that they asked ambassador volker. he testified that the aid was absolutely getting released. the entire time he had zero doubt whatsoever that the aid was going to get released. and then the aid got released. and to get the aid released, ukraine did not have to open up any new investigation. all of those facts are being ignored. i am seeing some reporting over the course of the last 24 hours that the new best evidence to

try to take down the president for quid pro quo is that people believe that ambassador sondland is going to testify that president trump told him that there was no quid pro quo. i'm scratching my head as i'm watching the news. this is your best evidence, your freshest evidence, your new angle, that president trump had a quid pro quo because he told ambassador sondland there would be no quid pro quo. on the process and the substance there is so much that is so wrong about this entire clown show but it is really important when talking about the hold on aid and the quid pro quo that please, just start covering everything else that you do know even if it doesn't help take down a sitting president. >> what is your collective understanding of what the work product of all this is going to be? do you anticipate they will

release transcript, write a report. have you been told anything about what the ultimate product of this will be? >> they're making it up as they go along. i hope they release transcripts. the volker transcript should have been out a long time ago. we hope they would open up the process so the other 423 members of congress who have no idea what's happening in these closed-door sessions could see and more importantly you and the press and american people could see. >> by the way, we're talking about releasing everything. not only the other members of congress, we want the transcripts released for all the american people to see so they can see for their own eyes the whole context of what is going on. think about what is happening here. the rest of the country, certainly the federal government, is on vacation, it's a holiday. nobody else in the cap -- capitol here and we're in the secret area. not hearing anything that's secret but it is being

suppressed by this partisan star chamber and then they leak out selectively the things that they want for their narrative. where else in america does that happen? where else in america? >> understand we are not calling for just reporting on some of the facts. our position is that the american public should know about all of the facts to form their own independent judgment. chairman schiff said yesterday during an interview that the reason why he doesn't want depositions to be released is because the republicans want the witnesses to be able to compare notes for their testimony. these are adam schiff's witnesses. >> we can't call any witnesses. >> these aren't our witnesses. we want the american public to have all the information. they should have it in realtime but the fact that they would only get whatever could be spun favorably to their argument is

outrageous. [inaudible question] >> i would just highlight one thing. the ukrainian government asked the state department to put them in contact with rudy giuliani. the ukrainian government. [inaudible question]. >> where this all started. he is a private citizen. when they contacted him he could say yes or no. >> mr. jordan can you elaborate? >> we're not allowed. we would love the opportunity to actually do that but we aren't allowed. again, that is part of this strike while the iron is hot and run this process the way speaker pelosi and adam schiff are trying t >> have they rejected possible witnesses? >> there is no mechanisms or rule that allows us to bring our witnesses.

that's why this appears to be what it is, which is a stampede towards impeachment. stack the deck, get all the testimony on your side to set the narrative that you want to be told and the truth and the other be damned and stampede everybody towards an impeachment. i would love to see so much more in front of us right now. there are so many anonymous people that as we're going through these depositions that list -- could be extensive but unfortunately it is anonymous contacts that in many cases you guys are reporting. it's anonymous contacts that people inside this room are reporting and the whistleblower complaint. we want facts, that's all we want. >> the whistleblower should absolutely be here to testify in front of us. >> bill: a lot of headlines from the republican side as the hearing is underway.

fiona hill will be interviewed today for a period of 8, 9, 10 hours perhaps based on some of the previous interviews. they can stretch well into the evening. scott perry the republican from pennsylvania there talking about a stampede toward impeachment and lee zeldin and jim jordan saying the hearings should be open up. the stampede is on. we'll examest in a matter of minutes and headliner today. a quick break on a monday and we'll have more of this when we continue. 300 miles an hour, that's where i feel normal. having an annuity tells me my retirement is protected. learn more at retire your risk dot org. - [woman] with my shark, i deep clean messes like this, this, and even this. but i don't have to clean this, because the self-cleaning brush roll removes hair while i clean. - [announcer] shark, the vacuum that deep cleans

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town near the guatemala border waiting for transfer visas. >> they're in limbo. for months they've been stuck camped in a southern mexico parking lot waiting for a visa to allow them to migrant to the u.s. illegally or claim asylum. mexico fused the visas. saturday they left and the mexican government stopped them and returned them to a shopping center park being lot. >> i'm waiting quietly. authorities to open the hearts and doors to give us documents to people who need them to circulate freely to find work to support our families. >> there were pregnant women, elderly people, several children. mothers carrying babies.

they are tired out. >> so mexico promised in a statement to process the visas allowing them to stay with restrictions or send them back to their home country. advocates call this policy cruel and shameful that mexico would not provide free transit to the u.s. as they did to a large group of central americans last year. it changed when president trump threatened to retaliate against mexico financially. they are deporting record numbers of migrants and the u.s. is seeing a dramatic reduction in apprehension attention at the border. migration out of africa hasn't stopped but u.s. and mexico have become the alternative after europe has shut down. >> bill: hundreds of isis sympathizers free now. the latest developments, many from the middle east, is straight ahead. plus any moment now a former white house advisor will be interviewed behind closed doors.

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interview happening on capitol hill this hour. welcome to a new hour, it's monday morning. >> bill: how was the weekend? excellent. went by too quickly. would you not agree? fiona hill was the top white house advisor on russia until leaving her post before the president's phone call with the president of ukraine as we just heard from republicans a moment ago, they want the interviews to be made public. first here is the house intel chair adam chiffon sunday. -- schiff on sunday. >> we're keeping our focus on the president's coercion of an ally, ukraine, to create these sham investigations into his political opponent. we have discovered in very short order not only the contents of that call but also the preparatory work that went into that call. >> we spent $30 million and had a special prosecutor and they

found no evidence. they'll find the same thing here. the problem. impeachment is a much lower bar. political process. >> bill: griff on a monday. good morning. let's start a new hour there with you. hello. >> it will be a busy one. fiona hill has been behind closed doors for about an hour where she is expected to be a key witness for house democrats making the case for impeachment because she might have firsthand knowledge of events and remember she was the leading white house advisor on russia including work on ukrainian policy. she is expected to address allegations the president's personal attorney rudy giuliani ignored protocol and led a shadow policy on ukraine. we'll see what if anything democrats release fromier testimony. thursday another key witness, gordon sondland blocked by the administration from appearing last week will appear this week where he made the president's case there was no quid pro quo on ukraine. now all this as we learn from the chairman of the intel

committee adam schiff, you saw there. he also says the person who set this entire inquiry in motion may not testify, the whistleblower. >> our primary interest right now is making sure that person is protected. indeed now there is more than one whistleblower that they are protected. and given that we already have the call record we don't need the whistleblower who wasn't on the call. >> that's not sitting well with republicans who are blasting the inquiry and the chairman. >> there should be a process. what adam schiff wants is to get the united states america drunk on his favorite cocktail. three ingredients, cherry picking leaks, withholding facts and three is outright lying. >> you mentioned briefly after the hearing started republicans came out to the micks in the hallway and continued to criticize saying it denies people access to the truth. the republicans aren't in charge.

the democrats are running the show. we'll hear more later today. >> bill: griff jenkins with all that from the hill. >> sandra: let's bring in our headliner ken starr, a fox news contributor joins us. you were able to hear the republicans there as fiona hill is behind closed doors. your thoughts on everything this morning as we kick off a new week and watch democrats continue down the path. >> secrecy is bad unless there is a compelling need for secrecy. think of trials, of the judiciary. we believe fervently in public trials. why is that? because we want to be able to see. the juries need to be able to see and hear the witnesses. we need as the american people and we'll come back to the house of representatives, to be able not just to hear, read a transcript eventually, we need to hear and see because it has to do with credibility. is that witness credible? maybe she is, maybe she isn't.

>> bill: can they keep all of this behind closed doors forever or at some point do we see the interview? >> the answer is yes as a matter of raw power. that's what is being exercised. raw power, inconsistent with the traditions of the house of representatives and the very spirit of the house of representatives which has been every member of the house should be given the opportunity to make his or her views known and to vote on whether there should be an impeachment. >> bill: what is their strategy? we interview and interview and at some point we say here is what we have? >> i assume so. i think there is something profoundly wrong -- let's leave the fairness issue is wrong. it gives rise to an inference

you're afraid if it's not classified national security information, apparently this isn't. you're afraid of the truth. leave the whistleblower aside you would have the witnesses testify in public. let the public assess. the house of representatives. they are given the sole power to impeach. not the committee or a speaker. every american should be concerned about this. the speaker is not calling for a vote but not just a vote, but a debate whether there should be impeachment. >> sandra: what does it tell you? >> it tells me this is a very unorthodox procedure and they should stop it. >> sandra: the "wall street journal" has been writing about the secrecy and wrote this morning. adam schiff's grand jury. the house democrat justifies his impeachment secrecy as if he is running a criminal trial. what you just heard from republicans jim jordan saying

fiona hill was willing to come and answer questions voluntarily. then she was served a subpoena by adam schiff. why do that? it changes the way they can question her or what they can ask? >> i think it gives them additional powers to use the subpoena when you don't need to use a subpoena. the witness says i'll show up whenever you tell me to show up, then using a subpoena is a power play. to put you in fear of oh my word, if i don't do this, contempt powers and the like. so i think it's again the unnecessary use and the unwise use of power. it seems to me that people should be crying out to say you say you have the power and you might have a vote. why not simply have the vote consistent with our constitutional tradition? >> bill: answer your own question. >> i think there is fear of it. political. there is fear of transparency. i'm not going to get into motivations. all i know is that the

constitution has been followed -- i know they have the raw power to do what they're doing but they don't have the moral right to do what they're doing. what they're doing is constitution nallly wrong. it is a raw power play that is unprecedented in american history. when we're talking about the ultimate act of political capital punishment, the indictment through impeachment of a president of the united states. >> sandra: a member of congress says he doesn't care about the actual vote. here he is in his own words. >> i don't much care about the vote on the floor. if there is a vote on floor i'll vote for it. there is no right being denied to the republicans when we interviewed the ambassador and interview anybody else. the republicans get exactly equal time to ask their questions. >> sandra: ken? >> the fact that they have the

raw power doesn't make it right. and that's the key. he didn't say a word about traditions, did he? he didn't say anything about we are depriving all 435 members of the house of representatives who represent the entire american electorate, that's the people's house. they should be heard from as opposed to simply committee chairs going on television. >> bill: you talk and answer these questions it seems as if their case is weak. do you believe their case is weak? >> i don't know. but from what we do know i don't think there is anything close to an impeachable offense here by traditional standards including during the clinton years when the president of the united states clearly, bill clinton, clearly committed crimes, federal crimes. there -- i have think what's going on here, this is functionally just to use that word an oversight hearing but it is being used in a very inappropriate way because of

the politics of an upcoming presidential election year. first of all it's doomed to fail. >> bill: in the senate it's doomed to fail. >> yes. >> bill: but ultimately if you are trying to build your case it would seem to suggest your case is not as strong as you think it is. if you went to a vote you would not have the votes to pass it in your own caucus, true or not? >> i don't know the politics of that, i really don't. but it draws the inference that is reasonably drawn is you are afraid of a vote. otherwise you would have it. because people vote in the house of representatives all the time. house rules are very clear. you can't vote by proxy. you have to show up in person. you don't have to participate in the debate but you have to show up and cast your vote for the world to see. that's what is being avoided. a very negative inference can be drawn as to why we're not following the democratic small d approach to running the house of represent if,. >> sandra: let me read you how the "wall street journal"

describes. as mr. schiff knows a grand jury is a criminal proceeding. impeachment is a political process the house defines the meaning of high crimes and misdemeanors. mr. schiff wants it both ways. run his secret hearings like a criminal grand jury but impeach mr. trump even if the president committed no crime. >> that's a pretty apt analysis. secrecy does not belong in impeachment proceedings save for the most compelling circumstances. i don't think from what we know that the testimony that's been forthcoming is classified or subject to classification at all. we're going to essentially the integrity of the president of the united states isn't that a subject that the american people should learn all the facts about? >> adam schiff said they may not need the testimony of the whistleblower. does that fly with you in case like this? >> i think it is odd but understandable that you want to protect the whistleblower's identity. that's a very important value

to be achieved. however, since it appears -- it appears that the whistleblower actually went to adam schiff's staff before the complaint and so forth or before this became public, i think there is some issues with respect to the whistleblower that i think there may be a waiver. that's not a legal answer. >> bill: what he referred to we already have the transcript of the call which the way he made that comment to him at least it would seem sufficient enough for the evidence that they have before them. but late last week they said the whistleblower could submit his or her questions and answers in writing. does that fly? >> it will fly if the american people allow it to fly. at this early stage adam schiff has an enormous amount of power. the speaker is giving him enormous running room to do what he wants to do. we're hearing cries including mainstream media asking tough questions, why don't we have a

vote? why don't we have a vote? it becomes a mantra that the republicans can i think appropriately say to fair minded people to independents to say if the democrats were really going about this in a morally upright way and if they really cared about the country, if they really cared about their constitutional power, they would say transparency. let's let the sun shine in. >> sandra: if you were to take your best guest of the days and weeks to come and look like. >> dribble out of testimony which we're seeing each week. we have several witnesses this week in depositions, not in hearings. we'll have members of congress coming out, very small minority of the 430 members giving spin on what happened behind closed doors. they should call a halt to the behind closed doors approach. >> bill: nine-hour interview can cover a lot of ground. you start in 1917 in that case,

right? maybe even before. ken starr, great to see you. thank you for coming by today. >> sandra: thank you. >> i spoke to my counterpart a few days ago and warned them if they do this incursion which we oppose we'll see everything from the release of isis prisoners to humane tehran catastrophe and damage u.s. relations with turkey. all this is playing out exactly as we predicted. we know and believe that the turks now intend to go further south than originally expected and to go both west and east. >> that defense secretary mark esper putting turkey on notice as we learn hundreds of isis sympathizers, women and children escaped. the kurds reaching a deal brokered by russia to partner with syria against troops from turkey. got that? lucas tomlinson live from the pentagon.

>> defense secretary esper says the situation gets worse than the hour. he said president trump ordered all u.s. forces in northern syria to pull back from the border and away from the russian and iranian-backed forceers moving north and the turkish forces moving south. the turkish invasion could not have been stopped. >> they were fully committed to doing this regardless of what we do. it was my recommendation and i know the chairman of the joints chiefs of staff we should not put u.s. forces in between turkish advance. we're talking less than 50, no way they could stop turks from proceeding south. >> not sure what -- the pentagon is accelerating plans to get americans out in coming days and weeks. critics say they've betrayed the kurds. esper defended the decision to retreat and warned turkey their membership in nato was at risk. >> do they seem like much of an

ally, turkey? >> no, the arc of their behavior over the past several years has been terrible. they are spinning out of the western orbit. we see them purchasing russian arms, culling up to president putin and doing all these things that frankly concern us. >> further evidence the relationship with turkey is deteriorating. the pentagon canceled an reconnaissance flight with turkish forces over russia, a longstanding agreement. >> sandra: former vice president joe biden defending hunter amid the ukraine matter. hunter has decided to speak out. >> tt allowing phase one of the deal with chain ya. is that enough for those who are watching and investing? we'll check it out with your money coming up next. >> phase one is a big phase. in fact, the biggest problem.

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president announced u.s. and china have reached phase one of a trade deal. the dow on a holiday trading day. bond market closed. equity market is open for trading. dow is sharply unchanged. what is wall street digging into this morning? >> could be a lot worse. i think they're looking forward to having numbers to pour through. earning season starting, big banks reporting starting tomorrow. a tech giant in netflix that reports on wednesday. speculation last week about is it a china trade deal or just progress towards a deal? it's progress towards a small deal, i think. we're trying to all read between lines right now. it is quite possible that the president on friday maybe oversold this phase one deal a bit. it doesn't take away the fact that progress was made. you have two countries in the united states and china both under a certain amount of political pressure for

different reasons. we saw it even in the chinese economy overnight. their economy is struggling. exports from china to the united states went down big time drop. you know china is under pressure. we talked about the fact the president is facing his own political pressures at home. both sides said we need to get back to talking about this at the very least and they made some progress. the idea of china buying more u.s. agriculture. the u.s. holding off on tariffs for this week. from what we can understand the chinese said this on friday, they want a little bit more before they are comfortable signing off on this deal. tariffs supposed to go into effect on the 15th of december. the chinese would love to see those done away with. the u.s. is saying we aren't sure. >> bill: the president punts on the tariffs for now and the chinese say they're buying more soybeans. any in writing or just a handshake? >> remember the president's term on friday we have to get this thing papered. the terminology when you don't

quite have a deal in place yet. the idea it's a phase one deal. maybe it's a little oversold. from the point of view of investors. it's about expectations. they got a little ahead of themselves friday afternoon and where we saw it go from plus 500 to plus 300. but there was still progress made. more than we could say a few weeks ago. we'll see what the next month brings. the apec summit in chile seems the next deadline to watch. >> sandra: gas prices in california typically are high. they are almost always higher than the national average but extremely high now that california is paying $4.18 a gallon while the national average is $2.64. is this higher than normal? >> yes. this seems to be -- it is tough to tell now but seems to be according to most of the experts something temporary. to your point gas prices in california are maybe a dollar higher than the national average. this extra increase that we've

seen most analysts think in the next month or two we'll see it come back. there were some refinery outages and supply problem with gasoline getting into california. it has been corrected. the old saying goes the gas prices go up much quicker than they come back down. sometimes when you see something like that get corrected it takes instead of a week or two four to six weeks and most analysts seem to think we'll be back to normal with california prices just being higher but not extremely higher than the national average maybe in the next six weeks. >> highest price, $4.17. >> sandra: i thought you were talking about in the state. baton rouge has the lowest prices now. that is a good opportunity to say go tigers, right? new jersey you get your gas pumped for you, too, right? >> why won't they pump their own gas? very lazy people.

>> sandra: thank you very much. we'll see you this afternoon on fbn. >> bill: thank you so much. in a moment the president with a new warning for house democrats when it comes to impeachment. we'll tell you what he is talking about there in a moment. >> sandra: joe biden defending his son's work with foreign-owned companies. what is hunter biden doing now? where is he amidst this controversy? >> my son didn't do a single thing wrong. no one has asserted i did anything wrong except a lying president.

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this is the president flat lying. >> sandra: former vice president joe biden defending his son against the president's attacks over the weekend. this as hunter biden says he is stepping down from the board of a chinese company. peter doocy has more on this from washington >> sandra, even though joe biden says his son never had a conflict of interest with his foreign business dealings, his son has announced he is giving up a spot on a board of an equity company that is tied to the communist chinese government. >> the statement my son put out today, which i saw when he put it out, i was told it was going to be put out. i did not consult about what was being put out. in fact represents the kind of man of integrity he is and what in fact he has done and why he stepped down. and i can tell you now if i am your president, next president,

i'll build on the squeaky clean transparent environment we had in the obama/biden white house and no one in my family or associated with me will be involved in any foreign operation whatsoever. >> the bidens maintain they are not working together here. joe biden is working on his campaign on his own. hunter biden is untangling his financial interests on his own. now insisting he will steer clear of foreign business deals if his dad becomes president. tomorrow night's debate will be the first chance primary rivals will have to challenge the former v.p. about any of these latest developments but it doesn't sound like everybody in the top tier is interested. >> look, we may be competing for the presidency but what is going on in this white house and the way that they have put america's interests second in order to involve a foreign

power in trying to tar the family of an american public servant like the former vice president i think is a reminder of what's reallylate last night the biden team did something else to demonstrate they're above any concerns of unethical behavior. they rolled out a plan to insure ethical behavior by government officials. sandra. >> sandra: that's a peter doocy in columbus ohio for us. thank you. >> bill: maybe the folks in columbus might be insulted by that. bring in our a-team, ed rollins, jason nichols, tom bevan, gentlemen, good day to all of you. got a lot to get to. let's start with hunter biden on the news side of that. how does this development change do you think for this week? >> it is going continue to be a story. hunter biden sat for an interview that will air tomorrow morning. the day of the big democratic

debate. it is not something that's going away and it will get raised at the debate by the moderators. democrats aren't really interested in this story. rivals aren't interested in attacking joe biden on the story. the biggest lament from democrats about this story is joe biden didn't push back harder against it. they thought it was a missed opportunity how he would take on trump in a general election setting. it took him 14 days to push back hard. >> bill: it seems like the biden side has a strategy. >> now, the reality is this story isn't going away reality he will not be the president or vice president and the offers on board for $50,000 a month. joe biden has always had a problem with the truth starting with his college career being tossed out for plagiarism.

always an exaggeration. i don't think the story goes away saying my son won't be on any boards in the future. >> interesting when we talk about someone who exaggerates and not telling the truth. ivanka has -- people brought it up when they said no new deals with foreign powers and they went and made new deals with foreign powers and she has an office in the white house. this is all a distraction. the fact that this doesn't go away and i think is a problem and i think as my colleague just pointed out, the matter of fact joe biden should have pushed back harder and he should have asked more about ivanka trump and jared kushner and what they are doing in the white house. >> bill: here is doug collins with maria from over the weekend from sunday. roll this now. >> it's pretty amazing now that hunter biden after the light

has been shined onto what is some interesting deals in ukraine and china and other places now come up and stay i'll step away from all this it might seem to be a conflict with my father if he ever becomes president. that's a big leap of faith here. >> bill: back to ed's point. >> i don't think it cuts it for the bidens to say well, i won't do it if my dad is elected president. it was okay for me to do it while he was vice president? that doesn't -- i don't think that will get it done for putting this story to bed. >> sandra: we want to bring everybody to a story that we have been following since it happened graphic video was shown in florida at a conference attended by many of the president's supporters. it was a graphic video and it had images of a caricature of

the president shooting members of the media and opponents. we have a statement from the white house. the video played over the weekend that the president has not seen that video. he will see it shortly but based upon everything he has heard, he strongly condemns this video. needed to bring it up? >> as he should condemn it. reality is we need to get back to real truth and political campaigns. part of the problem. i run a super pac. zoom of them are pacs gone out there away from the campaigns and doing outrageous things. this is outrageous and hurts the president. i think it is ridiculous. >> the event was at the doral, the group is american priority, a conference there. there was a long statement what carl writes.

he says the whca is horrified by a video shown at a political conference organized by the president's supporters national doral in miami. we previous told the president his rhetoric could insight violence. we call on him and everybody associated with the conference and affirm violence has no place in our society. it was a take-off of the movie called the king's men and we'll wait for further word from the white house. tom, your take on it now. >> it's just dumb. who thought it was a good idea if you're a supporter of the president to do something like this is just stupid. it backfired as it should. it should be condemned and shouldn't have been aired or produced. >> and the parody took place inside a church. >> a scene from the kingsman. i can't comment on that because i didn't see the original movie. a stupid thing somebody did and

it backfired. >> i'm glad that ed condemned it and the president has come out and condemned it. awful. the fact that it happened in a church, you know, with what happened, >> bill: the parody >> the parody happened inside a church. i haven't seen the film. he is also beating up a black women, maxine waters. it is despicable. we shouldn't have this in our political debate. >> bill: poor taste and unnecessary is the conclusion at this table. now to a prediction, shall we? this is your business, ed. here is mark penn throwing one out there for democrats. are you ready for this? roll it >> i'm not sure exactly who will enter. if you were michael bloomberg, hillary clinton, john kerry, or michelle obama, you are probably sitting there thinking you know, i could take this

field. maybe i should get in. maybe not. i think all four of them are possibilities. >> bill: bloomberg, kerry, hillary, michelle obama. who will it be? >> not any of them. i don't think michelle obama wants to be president. i don't think bloomberg has a shot. even if he did he would be at the bottom of the pack. i think we have a good field here. we have good candidates. a bunch of different ideas. we're good where we are. >> sandra: tom. >> i think there were -- the only way this could happen. it's too late for anybody to get in right now. just a contested convention. the odds of that are decreasing as bernie falls in the polls and post heart attack and biden struggling. warren looks to be the frontrunner. i don't think -- that's the only chance i think that -- >> sandra: why do you think it keeps happening? last week it was hillary clinton. >> mark penn has been wrong

before and wrong when he advised hillary. the only one who would be a credible candidate and doesn't want the job is mrs. obama. if you want to put the obama coalition back together again she can do it. she came out of eight years in the white house, very popular and smart and doesn't want to do it. shows how smart she is. >> the reason this keeps popping up there are democrats concerned that warren is too left wing to win against trump in a general election. >> she beats him in all the polls. she out performs trump. >> she is beating him in a general election setting in national polls. i'm not sure she is beating him in the states that will matter in 2020. >> jason said he is satisfied with the field. >> a lot of democrats are and many aren't. >> everybody says when are the wise men going to come forth and pick the right person? there are no wise men? there are people work very hard

to nominate people who end up being delegates for warren won't step aside for john kerry or anybody else. it's ridiculous. >> bill: you are always our wise man. thank you all gentlemen. >> sandra: turkey threatening to ramp up the fighting in syria and one of the big questions right now is what will happen with hundreds of isis sympathizers and supporters that are now free? a closer look at that next. >> it's a very terrible situation over there. a situation caused by the turks, by president erdogan despite our opposition they decided to make this incursion into syria. about to capture prof of the ivory billed woodpecker. what??? no, no no no no. battery power runs out.

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>> pompeo, the intelligence services, the foreign countries that are working with us have it about right. that isis is not defeated. you can pull your troops out as president obama learned the hard way out of iraq. but the enemy gets a vote.

we say in the military. in this case, if we don't keep the pressure on, then isis will resurge. it is absolutely a given that they will come back. >> sandra: james mattis warning that president trump's abrupt withdrawal of u.s. troops from northern syria could lead to an isis resurgence. let's bring in walid phares. what does it mean for an isis comeback? >> well, to release tens of thousands, maybe hundred at this point in time from detention centers is already a major development but let's go back to the genesis of it. how that happened. our allies, kurd and iraqis have detained over the past four to five years thousands of isis fighters and families. problem is, nobody addressed what to do with them. one of the ideas i have developed at the time was let's have an international coalition kind of court and detention centers not leave it under

militias as is the case with the kurds. turkey comes in and says i can detain them and take care of them. but to do so the turks would have to invade kurdish territory. it is really complicated and irrational what has happened. the risk is those who are fleeing are going to other battlefields or are joining other cells that they can connect with. >> bill: could this have been predicted before you made the decision to pull u.s. troops out? >> i think it was the abc, the most simple thing to do. when you have prisoners of war that are international -- you have to put them in safe locations and also procession them and ask countries to take them or create an international tribunal. it was not done and the reasons are multiple. reason number one is iraq wanted to detain their owns. iranians didn't want to create

an international tribunal because it will look at the other militias would do. of course the muslim brotherhood close to turkey also opposed the idea. we should have taken the initiative with western allies and arab allies before it exploded. >> the european countries didn't want to take them back. >> not as individuals. if you would have publicly pressured them. you had nuremburg and all these courts, why won't you do this for an organization that perpetrated a genocide? >> sandra: over the weekend the treasury secretary said that the president stands ready to act with sanctions on turkey. here is steve mnuchin. >> at a moment's notice the president calls me up and tells me we'll do this. we could shut down all u.s. dollar transactions with the entire government of turkey. our role in syria was not to

defend land for the kurds in historical issues. our focus was to defeat isis. the president has authorized me to effectively shut down the entire turkey economy and we can do that. >> sandra: wanted to get your reaction to that, walid. >> it is one or the other option. either we have an agreement with turkey as we understood in the beginning since last sunday that there is an agreement. they'll go in and we'll withdraw. or the turks are doing something without our agreement and we will put sanctions. i would be happy to know which is the option that is really happening at this point in time. i'm not sure i know. >> bill: one more thing here walid with the movement that you see in syria, you've got a counter move in saudi arabia up to 2,000 troops headed there. can you understand why you move to saudi arabia now or what is happening behind the scenes to deter a possible iranian move?

>> it is very difficult now to do those connections because on the wonder hand we're committed in syria not for a century but to finish the job. the job was about to be finished and you do the management of that job about to be finished. all the battlefields we were engaged in was a remnant of our forces to make sure it continued to be safe for us. now with regard saudi arabia it's because of iran, very simple and logical. the iranians are threatening and we're doing deterrents. the real question to me is syria. syria now is falling under two forces and we're out. either the iranian militia and assad or it is the muslim brotherhood. >> bill: would you leave the forces there? the president described you put forces in and leave them there for decades. what would you do? >> once you leave one part of syria it will be a domino effect. let's not be kidding here. the next pressure is on our forces in the south of syria.

we're not dealing with people who are static. they are achieving one goal and they'll put the second goal and guess where they'll go? pressure on us in iraq. one, two and they move to iraq. >> bill: thank you, sir, come back. okay? walid phares, thanks. big news on the guidelines for prescribing opioids and what they mean for millions of american patients. a look at that with a doctor coming up next. payments right ay by calling newday now. you can refinance at newday usa with no income verification, no appraisal, and no points and save over 1,000 dollars a year. lower rates means lower payments. get the most of your va mortgage benefits. refi now at newday usa. refinance now and save. the best of pressure cooking and air frying now in one pot, and with tendercrisp technology,

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>> bill: new guidelines from the government rolling back prescription guidelines. warning doctors against suddenly cutting off the pain medication. dr. marc siegel professor of medicine, fox news contributor. too restrictive? what was the concern. >> they got a letter that said a lot of patients are suffering because there are so many opioid addicts in the united states. as recently at 2017, 191 million prescriptions were written. in other words, if doctors caused this problem by overprescribing opioids, it is not necessarily the patient's fault. the patient may say i'm in pain. treat my pain. and doctors may not know the cause of the pain and may throw opioids at the problem. now we're in the big epidemic mess. why should patients be the ones

who suffer? the point here is, the reason the guidelines have come out is hhs is now saying treat every patient as an individual. how fast can you get them off opioids without causing them pain or agony? what are your alternatives? are you using behavior modification, risk of depression or suicide. what are the side effects withdrawing too quickly? i want to introduce a drug called bu -- it is an opioid itself to help you get off other opioids without causing the addiction withdrawal problems. that drug needs to be emphasized. >> sandra: those withdrawal problems including anxiety, depression. it has to be treated and a personal approach. >> absolutely. one of the great things, sandra, about hhs putting a spotlight on this, somebody has to pay for this, too. one of the concerns is

insurance companies aren't always covering this. and if i have to put a tour deforce in place to help my patient insurance should be covering that psychologist, that nurse practitioner, that team approach. and that long-term approach. hhs is saying decrease the opioid dosing by somewhere between 10% a week to 10% a month. i don't think that's enough. i think we have to still be aggressive to get people off opioids. >> bill: >> bill: tender issue. >> sandra: the kurds partnering with assad for help fighting off turkish forces. now congress working on new sanctions. will they stop the bloodshed?

>> sandra: fox news alert now. the trump administration inching closer to new sanctions on turkey. welcome the to a brand-new hour of "america's newsroom," it is monday morning here in new york city. i'm sandra smith. >> bill: i'm bill hemmer. good morning. the news comes as kurdish forces strike a deal with the assad regime to help fight off the turkish attacks. all this coming on the heels of president trump's decision to take the u.s. troops out of syria. here is reaction on that beginning. >> the turks should have been warned if they came in they would face consequences particularly from the air. and they've got to get out. >> erdogan misjudged president trump and sure as hell misjudged me. what he is going to see is

united front that i haven't seen in a long time where republicans and like a ton of bricks. iranian-type sanctions and he deserves it. >> sandra: john roberts is live at the white house but we begin with steve harrigan on the ground in northeastern syria. steve, hello. >> sandra, hello. events are moving fast here and changed dramatically just overnight. the kurdish fighters who feel they have been let down, stabbed in the back by the united states have now turned to bashar al-assad, the leader of the syrian government backed by russia for help. so now what started out less than a week ago as a military operation by turkey, they called it against terrorists, now it is getting much wider, much bigger, possibly a war between two nations, syria and turkey. one a member of nato, the other backed by russia. we are seeing some brutal

fighting on the ground by irregular forces, militia backed by turkey accused of executing kurdish soldiers and a kurdish political leader and shooting her in the head and bombed a convoy that contained journalists killing nine. as far as the position of u.s. forces go, the small contingent has been pulled out of northern syria. secretary of defense saying he didn't want u.s. forces to get caught between two warring armies. people are on the move. numbers going up every day. 130,000 people trying to flee the growing violence. back to you. >> sandra: steve harrigan in northeastern syria for us. >> bill: from the white house president trump signaling that big sanctions are coming after the turkish military invaded northern syria targeting the kurds. the president not giving details but suggesting there is consensus in washington about

doing so. start a brand-new week with john roberts to figure out where we are today. >> good morning. we may find out more about that later on today. the president continues to defend his decision to pull u.s. forces away from the border between syria and turkey. again going to the well about how the united states cannot continue to fight and be involved in endless wars. the president tweeting this morning the same people who got us into the middle east mess are the people who most want to stay there. one of the biggest concerns about turkey fighting the kurds is whether thousands of isis fighters being guarded by the kurds will be released. the president seemed sanguine about that and suggesting that any reports of isis fighters being released may simply be a ploy by the kurds to try to draw the united states back into the fight. the president tweeting kurds may be releasing some to get us involved easily recaptured by turkey, or european nations where many came. big sanctions on turkey coming.

do we think we should go to war the nato member turkey? never ending wars will end. the president authorized the treasury secretary to impose sanctions. steve mnuchin appeared to suggest they may be getting ready to pull that trigger. >> the national security met yesterday in the situation room and meeting again this morning. i think you no it's an evolving situation where monitoring the situation carefully. the sanctions are ready to go and we'll be updating the president this morning. when he makes the decision we'll act. >> carolina senator lindsey graham is meeting with the president this afternoon to talk about coordination with congressional sanctions against turkey. graham said he met with erdogan in september about creating safe zones. they came to an agreement and then erdogan basically lied to him. listen here.

>> it is deteriorating inside of syria. i blame turkey. there will be crippling sanctions imposed by the congress to supplement what president trump's administration has done. we'll send a signal to turkey that's unmistakable in the eyes of erdogan and the world and we will break his economy until he stops the bloodshed. >> we appear to be at a critical point in the conflict. turkey escalating operations and now the kurds inviting syrian forces in to help defend against turkey. this thing could get out of control pretty quickly. >> bill: john roberts from the white house. >> sandra: all right. for more on this let's -- we have -- we'll have reaction from florida congressman michael waltz a former green beret. now to capitol hill. former trump russia advisor fiona hill has been talking to lawmakers behind closed doors on the investigation over the ukraine matter. that interview is happening

right now. it's in hour two at this point and we're getting some word out of that room. let's bring in "washington examiner" editor in chief hugo gurdon. good morning to you. when i talk about a dispute i first saw this reported by byron york and then our own capitol hill producer is telling us there was a dispute ongoing behind closed doors in the transcribed interview. three committees running the investigation, matt gates walked into the room showed up uninvited and said he wanted to sit down in the interview. he sits on the judiciary committee. matt gates stepped out of that room and said he was kicked out of the room. that's the last we heard. what are you hearing? >> matt gaetz isn't afraid to speak his mind.

this is a strange impeachment inquiry not because it's just behind closed doors and no one can reveal anything about it. normally impeachment is conducted by the judiciary committee. a lot of your viewers will remember it was the judiciary committee that conducted the impeachment of bill clinton. this is being done by the intel committee in principle giving an excuse for keeping things more tightly under wraps. a lot of this information is not classified. i'm not aware of classified information that is being spoken about in there. so i think that matt gaetz is saying something on a lot of people's minds. wait a minute. you are conducting an impeachment inquiry to remove the president of the united states, elected in 2016, but the public and the people's representatives are not allowed to see it? that doesn't fly. >> sandra: you have had a lot of the "wall street journal" editorial page writing about the secrecy of this ongoing

investigation. just a bit more of the reporting of matt gaetz walking into that meeting. this is house intel leading the inquiry there. and house judiciary he made the case he was kicked out because he is not a member of house intel but, he said, prior precedent -- he spoke to reporters for two minutes when he walked out of the room. prior precedent should have the ability to listen in. what's the direction all this is going and democrats leading of it? >> i think what it tells you is that there is increasing frustration on the part of the republicans and increasing confidence that their message is getting across that this impeachment inquiry is being conducted if not necessarily in a nefarious way but one that raises eyebrows. as i was saying before, you know, you cannot remove the elected president who was put in by voters in secrecy.

and one of the things that the democrats are doing is trying to make it increasingly secret. there is talk about the whistleblower not testifying in person but in writing. talk about members of the white house if they don't cooperate despite the fact there hasn't been a house vote for an impeachment inquiry they get hauled off. the two sides are ramping up and flashing ever more hostilely. >> sandra: jim jordan and other republicans, they stepped up to the microphone, lee zeldin among others stepped up to a microphone for that meeting began this morning fired up. jim jordan said this. >> chairman schiff subpoenaed dr. hill. she had agreed to come voluntarily. he is going to subpoena here i believe so he can ask certain questions and keep those secret except for the certain things that he wants to leak. the cherry picked information

he wants to leak to the american people. >> sandra: their take this morning. meanwhile the president is warning democrats they will lose house seats over impeachment. hugo, fine at thoughts on that. >> look, it wasn't the loud resistance, the impeach or bust people who gave pelosi the majority in the 2018 congressional mid-terms. it was centrists in places that trump won in 2016, kansas, wisconsin, rural parts of illinois and pennsylvania. she has always known there is a danger in impeachment that it will turn voters off and that those voters will then return a republican majority. so there has always been this tension before those who want to impeach and who want to tarnish him. president trump is right there will be voters turned off by this. >> sandra: thank you, appreciate your time this morning. >> bill: elizabeth warren escalating her feud with facebook and mark zuckerberg. how it's taking aim at that

company's new ad policy in a moment. >> sandra: senator bernie sanders taking jabs at his most progressive 2020 rival ahead of the big debate tomorrow. what he says is a key difference between himself and senator elizabeth warren. >> bill: fox news alert. we're about to get an update in new orleans on the deadly partial collapse of a hotel under construction. happened over the weekend on saturday afternoon. one person listed as missing. we'll bring you those updates as soon as they answer those questions at the microphone screen left. back in a moment. >> our goal is to continue to make the scene safe so we can continue getting into this building deeper and deeper for rescue purposes. to near record lows. the newday team is working overtime so every veteran can save $2000 a year.

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candidate who will say to the corporate elite. enough with your greed, and corruption. >> sandra: senator bernie sanders trying to differentiate himself from elizabeth warren as prepares to join the candidate rising in the polls as -- along with the rest of the field for the critical debate happening tomorrow night. former governor john sununu is joining us now and former chief of staff to george h.w. bush. great to have you here this morning. what did you make of bernie sanders' strategy to differentiate himself as they head into the debate? >> well, he is throwing back at elizabeth warren her own quotes that she is a capitalist to the bone. of course, her statement of being a capitalist to the bone is about as true as her statements about her genealogy and family background or as true as her latest little fib about having been fired for being pregnant.

i think what bernie and she are doing at this point is defining the direction they'll take for the next four months as they get into the voting. she will go after the biden voters and he is going to go after the extreme left wing socialist wing of the democratic party. >> sandra: do you think he will effectively differentiate himself? she has been gaining some momentum in the polls and bernie sanders needs to set himself apart. how otherwise does he do that? >> i think he is on his most likely track. i'm not sure he has enough left in the tank to take it all the way. and i think once again he is going to be disappointed. i think right now it's a battle between elizabeth warren and joe biden. and she i think has made the same decision. >> sandra: very interesting. it will be something to watch. she stands by she is a capitalist and differentiates herself from those that are self-proclaimed socialists like

bernie sanders and sands by the story about losing her job. she seems to be taking on facebook in the disinformation campaign. they just endorse had donald trump for reelection. the false ad post. elizabeth warren's false ad post. how could it be true? it's not, sorry. what zuckerberg has done is given trump free rein to lie on his facebook and push out their lies to the american taxpayers. >> sandra: put it in the overall context. even though she claims she is a capitalist she is a tacking boards and legislative agenda that is pro-socialist and anti-capitalist. this is just another slice in that. she has decided she needs a definable target. i am a bit surprised she picked

facebook but she has picked facebook. the interesting thing to me is that in the story that "the new york times" put online about her effort is that "the new york times" claims in there that joe biden did not hold back a billion dollars urging the firing of that prosecutor. so all of a sudden she and the times and others on the left are trying to undo the videotape of joe biden claiming success in getting the prosecutor fired. the whole thing is an interesting web that they're trying to weave. >> sandra: she essentially dared facebook with the post. looks like broadcast stations across the country have aired the ad. fcc doesn't want broadcast companies sensoring candidates's speech. better to let voters decide.

fcc, she did fire back at that facebook tweet. i don't know where this goes or if it's a good strategy for her. she is getting attention with it ahead of the big debate. what are your expectations overall as the candidates try to make a move here final thoughts, governor? >> there is certainly no question that what we see on television from them is the definition of their positions. this campaign will be fought extremely aggressively on social media and she is just trying to lay a foundation for a longer strategy. i don't know what it will be but i'm sure it's the initial step in the longer social media strategy. >> sandra: a big moment this week and potentially change that. we appreciate your time this morning. thank you. >> bill: this scene too close for comfort. out of control car heading for a sheriff's deputy. more on how this went down. >> sandra: new orleans saint with a big win against

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>> sandra: nerve racking moments when a car nearly hits several people including a sheriff's deputy. the driver of a passing car hit some black ice and spins out of control last friday. you can see the deputy and several others involved in a traffic stop jump out of the way. remarkably no one was hurt. >> bill: from new orleans.

a building collapse happened over the weekend. crews the searching for a worker missing. two people are dead. there are a dozen said to be injured when portions of the upper floors of the building crashed onto the street. jonathan serrie picks up the story from there. >> that news conference unfolding as we speak. the latest out of that conference is that officials are treating this as a rescue mission as they look for at least one worker still presumed trapped inside all of the rubble. family members have identified him as 49-year-old tony mcgretta. a portion of the building collapsed. family members are hoping he is alive inside. first responders have to move cautiously because the building is still unstable. >> our goal here is to continue to make the scene safe so we can continue getting into this

building deeper and deeper for rescue purposes. >> amateur video taken from a new orleans trolley captured the portions when portions of the multiple floors crashed down. more than 100 workers were inside. city officials say 30 were injured. most treated and released. there were fatalities. >> we have confirmed that two have passed on. there is still a priority, their bodies matters. as we make sure we focus on safety and rescue that will always be at the top of our minds. they're people. >> osha is on-site investigating and unclear what led the building to collapse. hard work international says a separate owner and contractor were overseeing the building contract. the company explains hard rock has had no involvement in the construction of the project.

extend our deepest sympathies to people affected by this accident. officials are urging people who work downtown or visiting downtown to avoid the roads there. major thoroughfares surrounding this construction site have been closed for safety reasons. they want to avoid traffic. bottlenecks as we go into this work week. >> bill: a lot of questions to be answered. >> we are going to send a signal to turkey that's unmistakable in the eyes of erdogan and the world and we will break his economy until he stops the bloodshed. >> sandra: washington stands ready to take action against turkey as turkish forces ramp up attacks across its border with syria. michael waltz will weigh in on that. >> bill: also a powerful typhoon leaving death and destruction. a massive search for the missing is on and we'll have a live report on what happened here coming up. ♪

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>> the most our no fly zone in place and take control of the airspace again and shut this killing down right away. erdogan doesn't want any part of dealing with the united states militarily. this is what we should have done at the outset to be frank about it. but we are where we are right now. >> bill: general jack keane at 9:00 a.m. today. the u.s. keeping an eye on turkey, possible sanctions on the way as kurdish forceers strike a deal with the syrian government to help them defend against the kurds. michael waltz part of the armed services committee. your take on this as of today. start. where do you think we are, sir? >> i've been in conversations with a number of green beret on

the ground. we specialize embedding the these forces. they're demoralized. if assad and the syrian army, if the russians and if the kurds are all now fighting this turkish invasion, who is fighting isis? i can tell you our special forces over there that are now retreating are not going after the remaining isis leaders nor are the kurds, their jailers. all baghdadi is calling on his sleeper cells to rise up and attack the isis prison camps. a number of their key leaders have already escaped and bill, we've set the conditions for isis 2.0 except and we're repeating the mistakes of the obama administration which pulled out of iraq too soon and led to all this in the first place, except we won't have any local allies to fight them again. i'm a incredibly concerned and disheartened and i agree with general keane and calling on the president to put his foot down with the turks.

i am joining my colleague liz cheney and lindsey graham in putting a sanctions package forward. that's the main tool we have in the congress. for all the endless war kind of crowd and voices whispering in the president's ear, this is how you create war. those few hundred american special operators, a few hundred, had effectively kept a lid on this tinderbox and now erdogan has put a grenade in pandora's box and it has blown wide open. >> bill: do we know the isis leadership had escaped? the women and children were able to leave a refugee holding areas. do we know leaders are on the run? >> a number of reports. mine is kind of anecdotal talking to people in the field. this is all unfolded so quickly that a number of not only isis

leaders have escaped. iran is amassing on the syrian and lebanese border. i was there in august and it's a tinderbox >> bill: it is a wicked brew in this part of the world. liz cheney, her warning from earlier today. >> we cannot have a situation where isis is resurgent. that's the bottom line. the kurds obviously have have been a tremendous ally for them. if we abandon them in this way it will be difficult to establish alliances in the future. we need those to avoid deploying massive u.s. forces on the ground. >> bill: the same thing you were saying. what is the better way to do it? >> we had a security -- what is called a security mechanism in place.

we were conducting joint patrols with the turks. we had convinced the kurds to abandon and dismantle some of their defensive positions all based on trust that the united states would continue to lead. i agree with the president in that the europeans are not doing nearly enough to help. but the united states has to lead. when we create a vacuum, bad act tors and bad things happen and fill the void. again to these isolationists that are pounding the table. these are a few hundred troops aimed to prevent war. if our goal is to bring a few hundred troops home while we have 50,000 in japan and thousands in europe and north korea and the sinai. there is a lot more dangerous -- lot less dangerous places to bring troops home than keeping our foot on isis in the middle east. >> bill: one last thing here. if you do sanctions on turkey does erdogan listen or is the

damage already done? >> damage is already done but in the longer run hopefully we can contain the damage. this sanctions package will go after his senior leadership. will prevent people from doing business with the military. will actually go after his energy sector. it is going to bite but it is going to take some time to have effect. i'm afraid enough damage will be done before this can fully bite. >> bill: michael waltz, military veteran back in washington >> sandra: meanwhile massive rescue efforts after typhoon tore through tokyo on saturday. widespread flooding and landslides. dozens confirmed dead with 17 still missing. benjamin hall has the latest from london for us this morning. >> in fact, all of those numbers are rising. we're hearing at least 60 dead. as many as two dozen still

missing. that number set to rise. 150 seriously injured. people are calling it the worst storm to hit japan in decades. everyone shifting to rescue footing trying to clear up and analyze and assess the damage. the extent of destruction across the country is immense affected 90,000 square miles. the storm, which made landfall in the tokyo area dumped a record amount of rain, one meter in 48 hours. that caused many rivers to overflow their banks and now a serious threat of mudslides which could engulf whole communities. japan deployed more than 110,000 rescue workers, police officer, firefighters, soldiers and coast guard personnel across the country as well as 100 helicopters in the skies overhead. all mobilized for the rescue effort. at the peak of the typhoon 7 million people were urged to

leave their home. at one point 262,000 households were without power with 120,000 experiencing water outages. the capital city tokyo itself that took a direct hit survived pretty much unscathed. they have a flood control underground system. it cost billions of dollars to build. japan has one of the best flood defenses in all of asia if not the world. built to withstand a flood and storm of 100 years. outside of tokyo rural areas aren't protected and real damage hit there. as i said severe risk that communities will be engulfed weeks if not months to get some back on their feet. >> sandra: thank you. >> bill: here we go. jacksonville jaguars falling to the new orleans street.

seemed to start with a tweet from the pope. he tweeted this. today we give thanks to the lord for our new #saints. they walk by faith and now we invoke their intercession. that was for five new saints can onized in the church. the saints said couldn't lose after this. saints would beat jacksonville 13-6 the final. they're 5-1 on the season. >> sandra: i mean, do you think so? >> bill: i think a good chance. what i thought for a long time the pontiff was a bengal fan and that was the only thing giving me hope during this otherwise lost season of 0-5. >> sandra: congratulations to the new orleans saints. >> bill: he must not be a fan of cincinnati.

>> sandra: hunter biden making a big decision involving his spot on the board of a chinese company. meanwhile, his father is firing back at his critics. >> bill: former trump russia advisor fiona hill behind closed doors. how many hours will it go today and what will she say? former assistant attorney tom dupree will way in. here is ken starr from last hour. >> i know they have the raw power to do what they're doing but they don't have the moral right to do what they're doing. what they are doing is constitutionally wrong. a raw power play that appears to be unprecedented in american history. teen ninety nine. get all the shrimp you want, any way you want 'em. like new sriracha-honey shrimp... ...savory grilled teriyaki shrimp,... ...classic shrimp scampi and more! red lobster's endless shrimp is fifteen ninety nine. hurry in. so you don't have to stash antacids here...

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stating begin in 2022, three years now, public middle schools must start no earlyer than 8:00 a.m. and high schools new earlier than 8:30 a. m. >> sandra: sounds good at first. you go to bet later do you keep the same bedtime. they want kids to get more sleep. i don't know. >> bill: how it applies to us, right? if they wanted -- start our show later? then you and i sleep in later. >> sandra: how did you get to that? >> bill: i'm not sure. i don't think it will fly. >> sandra: best to those kids. hopefully it works out. >> bill: congratulations in california. >> our primary interest now is making sure that person is protected. indeed now there is more than one whistleblower that they are protected. given that we already have the call record, we don't need the whistleblower who wasn't on the call to tell us what took place

during the call. >> sandra: that was democratic chair of the house intel committee adam schiff as he and several other house lawmakers are questioning president trump's former top russia advisor behind closed doors, fiona hill in their impeachment inquiry. tom dupree is with us now. thank you for being here. she agreed to voluntarily appear and answer questions behind closed doors from lawmakers, then adam schiff subpoenaed her. if she said she was willing to come without a subpoena, why subpoena her? >> great question, sandra. a lot of times congress will do this what lawyers like to protect themselves if she changes hir mind. they are insured of getting her testimony. it will be pretty interesting. from what we understand she expressed unhappiness with her role and from her perspective

rudy giuliani and others were circumventing her role in our dealings with russia and ukraine. i think she is going to say, i would anticipate she would say there is a process for exercising the president's foreign policy and there were people connected with the administration who weren't acting through the normal channels. this white house often likes to operate in a somewhat unorthodox style and i suspect it didn't set well with her. >> sandra: ken starr had strong thoughts about what is happening on capitol hill. here is ken starr. >> the house is given the sole power to impeach. not a committee and not the speaker. i think this is something that every american should be concerned about. that the speaker is not calling for a vote but it's not just a vote but a debate whether there should be impeachment. >> sandra: what about that? all of this continues and again this questioning happening behind closed doors on capitol

hill in secret this morning. what about that? there is still no vote. >> there is no vote. it is perplexing. i think judge starr is right in that if you look at the constitution, the text of it doesn't require a vote but you look at the way past impeachments have been conducted and the way it works. you need to have a majority in the house and super majority in the center in order to impeach and remove a president. the reason they did that, the framers didn't want impeachment to be run by a faction. they wanted something approaching consensus before congress moves ahead with what is a momentous decision. >> sandra: matt gaetz, the congressman, entered the room. he is a member of the judiciary committee but judiciary isn't in the room asking questions. he was demanding he be allowed in the room.

adam schiff says it is intel only and he was asked to leave. he stepped outside. talked to reporters for a couple of minutes and here the matt gaetz. >> in the absence of any rules that house democrats have adopted i found it only reasonable to look at prior precedent on impeachment. in the impeachment matters i've reviewed there is a lot of involvement from the house judiciary committee. they began the impeachment inquiry according to chairman nadler and now his own members aren't allowed to participate. that came as a shock to me. >> sandra: he walked out of the room. answered questions there. should matt gaetz and members of house judiciary be allowed in that room as well? >> i think all members of the house should be ultimately allowed to the information that's being developed in the course of this impeachment inquiry. the whole point of getting this information is to enable and empower members of the house of representatives to cast informed decisions as to whether to impeach the president of the united states. and the risk you run when you have hearings that are

segregated or limited to particular congressmen allowed in and who aren't allowed in, the information isn't shared throughout the collective house as a whole and you will have members who don't have access to the same information that many of their colleagues do. >> sandra: that was as the meeting had begun, before the meeting started republicans had taken to the microphone including lee zeldin from new york and said -- continued to question the process that we're observing here and went on to call the entire thing a clown show. we'll see what comes from the closed door meeting. appreciate your time. thank you. >> bill: nice to see you. an american diplomat's wife apologizing after being involved in a car accident that killed a teenager in england. the victim's family saying it is not good enough. what they are demanding in a moment next. it was that voice asking me, "is your daughter ok?" that's where i felt relief.

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>> but we shouldn't have gone through this. we shouldn't be suffering like this. it should have been an open and shut case. the evidence is extremely clear what happened. >> that's the family of a british teenager who died in a car accident involving a american diplomat's wife the family sounding off. the driver has since apologized. but the victim's mother says, quote, sorry does not cut it. senior foreign affairs correspondent greg palkot live in london on this. >> very strong words from the parents of that killed teenager. now they are bringing their case to the states to try to apply pressure. the mother and father of 19-year-old harry dunn hoping to get the woman thought responsible for the death of their son sent back to the u.k.

to face justice. a bit more of what she had to say today. >> she needs to do the right thing and come back and face what she has done. face us as a broken family. face our u.k. system and just do the right thing. >> very strong stuff, bill. dunn was killed riding his motorcycle in late august in central england. hit by a car driving on the wrong side of the road. police say that american diplomat's wife was at the wheel of the car. her husband is a u.s. intelligence officer at a british air base. she left the u.k. under diplomatic immunity. she said she is sorry and wants to meet the parents. they are refusing until she returns. over the weekend the u.k.'s foreign secretary says that he feels and thinks the u.s. feels

that diplomatic immunity no longer applies to the american now that she is back in the states but that sets up a possible royal legal battle involving extradition and who knows what. it could go on for a while but it is developing. >> bill: greg palkot reporting live in london on that. >> sandra: that big meeting continues behind closed doors on capitol hill. the former top russia aide is in the hot seat. what are house democrats asking as they ramp up their impeachment inquiry? where we all want more energy. but with less carbon footprint. can we have both? at bp, we're working every day to make energy that's cleaner and better. and we see possibilities everywhere. - [woman] with my shark, i deep clean messes like this, this, and even this. but i don't have to clean this, because the self-cleaning brush roll removes hair while i clean. - [announcer] shark, the vacuum that deep cleans

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outlining the planned exit from the e.u. in this speech to open a new session of parliament. boris johnson is expect it to put a bill for parliament next week. however, opposition leader jeremy corbyn says it's a farce and it will not pass. in her speech, the queen also called for a "fair, modern, and global immigration system." >> bill: how about that can make follow that. "newsroom news vault" on a monday, columbus day october 14th 1964, the reverend martin luther king received the nobel prize for peace for his peaceful protests against racial prejudice in america. he was the youngest person to receive the board at the age of 35. that was this day in 1964. good stuff. >> sandra: all right. that was a monday morning for us. >> bill: onward to tuesday. the >> sandra: fantasy football. >> bill: do you have any on your mind like we've for 20 seconds x might go, go, go!

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