>> this has been all over the news in recent days because of bbc broadcaster rachel burden's comments. now she already has three children at 41 and felt selfish for having another child. >> yeah, and with falling birth rates in britain and of course around the world, shouldn't we be encouraging more people to have babies in their 40s? well, joining lucy baker, joining us now, lucy baker, she's the founder of the geriatric mum blog. good morning to you, lucy. what's your take then? is it selfish to have kids in your 40s? >> well, i think you're probably going to know what i'm going to say on this one. >> being the founder of geriatric mum blogs. so, no, not selfish. i have three children now. i had my first at 34, my second at 37. so technically geriatric some might say, and my third baby at 43. it was the right time for me. i really wanted to add to our family, or me and my husband wanted to add to our family. and it was it was not a selfish move. it was a family move, i don't think it's selfish. you know, i why would it be selfish? >> what's why did the bbc broadcaster say that? >> w