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the winner i would say is going to be da fani willis. but let's not pretend or fool ourselves to think there isn't going to be some consequence to this prosecution. not only have you spoke about the delay baked in because of the side show but the removal of nathan wade, whether you like it or not, materially impacts this case and the prosecution because he's been through it from ground zero. he helped build this prosecution, led the investigation. put this investigation through a special purpose grand jury. took it to a grand jury and got the indictment returned on 19 co-defendants. so i've said before, there is institutional and historical knowledge that goes away with nathan wade. all of that being said, though, there are skilled, incredibly competent, special prosecutors that remain on this case and they can continue to help fani willis with this case. >> just some of the details that we're going through on page 15, the judge finds that, quote, the record made at the evidentiary hearing establishes the district attorney's prosecution
the winner i would say is going to be da fani willis. but let's not pretend or fool ourselves to think there isn't going to be some consequence to this prosecution. not only have you spoke about the delay baked in because of the side show but the removal of nathan wade, whether you like it or not, materially impacts this case and the prosecution because he's been through it from ground zero. he helped build this prosecution, led the investigation. put this investigation through a special...
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this is a win for fani willis. i'm bewildered as to how the judge got to this conclusion to split the hairs like this, but in the end i think it's a good resolution. it allows this case to continue, even though, like i said, it's not going to go to trial before the election. >> just quickly, i wanted to get your two thoughts here, danny and lisa with me, how quickly this case could get back on track and whether it will happen before the election that we'll see at trial. >> it depends on what else is happening and what i call trump trial tetris, a number of different players trying to get their cases tried before november, alvin bragg now has to figure out when his case will be tried. he said yesterday he would agree to a 30-day adjournment. the only problem is that judge -- has another trial scheduled on may 27th, it's the steve bannon we build a wall case the new york district attorney has. there's a lot of moving pieces, i think if fani willis wanted to go to trial before the election it would certainly be diffic
this is a win for fani willis. i'm bewildered as to how the judge got to this conclusion to split the hairs like this, but in the end i think it's a good resolution. it allows this case to continue, even though, like i said, it's not going to go to trial before the election. >> just quickly, i wanted to get your two thoughts here, danny and lisa with me, how quickly this case could get back on track and whether it will happen before the election that we'll see at trial. >> it...
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he gives fani willis the choice. you can either remove yourself and your office, or you can say boy bye, you're gone, nathan wade. notwithstanding the fact that fani willis gets to remain on this case, the trump team and codefendants succeeded in one other key respect. the mow m.o. of the trump world delay, delay, delay. mike roman was the director of operations for the trump campaign. she made that motion on january 8th, 2024. we are now at march 15th. it took us more than two months to complete all of the briefing and evidentiary hearings and closing arguments and now the decision on this. in the meantime, nothing on this case moved forward. >> blayne alexander is outside the courthouse. how long does fani willis have to make this decision? >> reporter: one would expect she would make it very quickly. keep in mind i want to give you the larger context. for the past 2 1/2 months this has been all we've been talking about. we haven't been talking about the facts of the case against donald trump. this has eclipsed tha
he gives fani willis the choice. you can either remove yourself and your office, or you can say boy bye, you're gone, nathan wade. notwithstanding the fact that fani willis gets to remain on this case, the trump team and codefendants succeeded in one other key respect. the mow m.o. of the trump world delay, delay, delay. mike roman was the director of operations for the trump campaign. she made that motion on january 8th, 2024. we are now at march 15th. it took us more than two months to...
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so we don't really know when and how fani willis will decide. we did even radio out to her office for comment, have not heard back. but to your second question about what has been the response, well, there has been two comments that we've received, one from the lawyer for trump that was particularly strong about the disappointment that they had in this ruling and they will chase down any and all available remedies on appeal for his client donald trump. but ashley merchant responded to us, and she is the lawyer representing michael roman, a known gop off difference, ashley merchant filed the original motion to disqualify and dismiss. and she said while we believe the court should have disqualified willis' office entirely, this opinion is a vindication that everything put forth by the defense was true, accurate and relevant to the issues surrounding the trial. and the judge clearly agreed it was a result of her poor judgment and there is a risk to the future of this case. while we do not agree that the courts suggested cure is inadequate, we look
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fani willis is up for election in a november. against a handful of people, they have different opinions on how this would affect their decision to vote. what with that environment due to this case? the stuff the government is doing, the fact that fani willis is an elected, not appointed d.a.? >> you have seen how does politics play out in the court. we have seen fani willis testified in an unprofessional way, as described by the judge because she was appealing to voters. that is going to be happening. donald trump is going to keep saying stuff, fulton county is going to want to respond and this election environment makes it hard to raise questions in the minds of voters that this is a fixed process. >> what you think about the gag orders? scott mcafee, the judge, suggested that the team might find a gag order suitable against fani willis. fani willis has tried to get a gag order trump for the things he says about her. tell me about that? >> i think any prosecutor should take a lesson from jack smith and that is you stick to what
fani willis is up for election in a november. against a handful of people, they have different opinions on how this would affect their decision to vote. what with that environment due to this case? the stuff the government is doing, the fact that fani willis is an elected, not appointed d.a.? >> you have seen how does politics play out in the court. we have seen fani willis testified in an unprofessional way, as described by the judge because she was appealing to voters. that is going to...
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fani willis is up for election in november. we interviewed just a handful of people with different opinions. what does that environment do to this case? the stuff the governor is doing, that fani willis is elected and not appointed? >> you have seen how the politics play out. she was appealing to voters. and that will be key. makes it harder to have a trial that doesn't raise doubts. >> what do we think about the gag orders? the judge suggested that the trump team might find a gag order. to get a gag order for trump. tell me about that environment. >> i think that any prosecutor should take a lesson from jack smith. and that is you stick to what is in that indictment. i think frankly, a gag order on all parties assuming it can be limited in a way that doesn't impact your ability to defend yourself and pursue your case is really something that is valuable because there are so many distractions. we don't node to hear. the public doesn't need to hear. none of us need to listen to. and it is something that is very unfortunate, the
fani willis is up for election in november. we interviewed just a handful of people with different opinions. what does that environment do to this case? the stuff the governor is doing, that fani willis is elected and not appointed? >> you have seen how the politics play out. she was appealing to voters. and that will be key. makes it harder to have a trial that doesn't raise doubts. >> what do we think about the gag orders? the judge suggested that the trump team might find a gag...
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or fani willis resigned. joining us to discuss it all is our friend, katie phang, attorney and host of the katie phang show right here on msnbc and our other friend, justice and legal affairs analyst, anthony coley. coley is a former senior advisor to attorney general merrick garland. >> anthony coley wrote a piece for msnbc.com talking and has tweets. that without sufficient evidence that the district attorney -- and the prosecution, you talk about willis making a strong argument for why she said stay on the case against trump but she needs to remove her team, the attorney from whom she had a personal relationship. you talked about the second one we put up months ago. you said month ago that nathan wade has to go. fani willis should stay. you had some tweets yesterday. talk to us about how you see this. you yourself are not an attorney but you said the chief attorney of the country, how do you see this situation playing out in georgia? >> you saw nathan wade, from all accounts, he is a good dude but his cont
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fani willis. and today, the judge found no actual conflict of interest, but did manage to gratuitously impugn her integrity. >> also tonight, we need to have a serious reality check about the right-wing propaganda that trump is somehow gaining historic levels of support among black voters. he wishes. >>> but we begin tonight with the most american of realities. if you're a rich white guy and especially if you're a celebrity and a former president, not only are you above the law, you are so above the law that if you get indicted for trying to overturn an election and thus overthrow the government, that case isn't even about you. today, fulton county superior court judge scott mcafee ruled that fulton county d.a. fani willis will not be disqualified from prosecuting the racketeering case against donald trump. trump tried it. it didn't work. his case will be prosecuted in georgia. maga inc. failed to prove a conflict of interest, perhaps because there was no conflict of interest. but in making that r
fani willis. and today, the judge found no actual conflict of interest, but did manage to gratuitously impugn her integrity. >> also tonight, we need to have a serious reality check about the right-wing propaganda that trump is somehow gaining historic levels of support among black voters. he wishes. >>> but we begin tonight with the most american of realities. if you're a rich white guy and especially if you're a celebrity and a former president, not only are you above the law,...
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. >> this is such a huge body blow, almost a fatal blow to fani willis. i think the way forward is she has to voluntarily recuse herself. i don't know that she has it in her, but i think she has to say i'm going to appoint a chief assistant who's going to oversee this case. >> joining me now is melissa murray and a former fellow prosecutor in the northern district of illinois. thank you for getting us started. renata, to you. to the fdny cases that have been happening in tranches. alvin bragg's office created egregious violations that the case should be dismissed. what are your thoughts? >> don't see a basis for dismissal. what alvin and his bragg did was warranted saying there has to be some delay to go through the documents. the real question is why did the southern district of new york wait so long to dump the documents when they could have released them many months ago? i think there's a lot of questions about their judgment. these are documents the manhattan da's office has been seeking for many months. originally the u.s. attorney's office said they
. >> this is such a huge body blow, almost a fatal blow to fani willis. i think the way forward is she has to voluntarily recuse herself. i don't know that she has it in her, but i think she has to say i'm going to appoint a chief assistant who's going to oversee this case. >> joining me now is melissa murray and a former fellow prosecutor in the northern district of illinois. thank you for getting us started. renata, to you. to the fdny cases that have been happening in tranches....
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fani willis will likely be subpoenaed to testify before that. the shadow of what we have seen over the past two and a half months will linger for some time to come. >> andrew, let's talk about this case and get past the appearance of impropriety the judge is referring to. he is raising questions about the truthfulness of sworn testimony. does this give a wide opening to the defense? >> it does in a way that was just outlined. there are a number of ways that if the current structure of the leadership remains, there's going to be a lot -- i mean a lot for the defense to work with. i think you will see the defense trying to appeal this. i don't think they will get very far, but that will be a distraction. also, if you look at the decision on page 9, judge mcafee gives a road map of all the other people who may be interested in testimony that he is obviously questioning. he does not -- to be clear, he does not come out and say, i found that credible. that would have been a big win if he said, i found the d.a. and mr. wade were credible. instead he s
fani willis will likely be subpoenaed to testify before that. the shadow of what we have seen over the past two and a half months will linger for some time to come. >> andrew, let's talk about this case and get past the appearance of impropriety the judge is referring to. he is raising questions about the truthfulness of sworn testimony. does this give a wide opening to the defense? >> it does in a way that was just outlined. there are a number of ways that if the current structure...
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fani willis. in fact, at the original setting of the evidentiary hearing, he was actually doing the oral arguments on some of these motions. and i think that's really telling that we're getting this order today. it shows that judge mcafee is doing the work that needs to be done, and, number two, i think it also shows -- in my opinion -- why would you be doing this if you're going to disqualify fani willis anyway. don't hold me to this, it is not gospel, but i think that is an interesting thing that you're getting this order now, but this was going to happen no matter what, jose. this is not some big tell that this indictment is fatally going to be going away one day. in fact, to catherine's point, it is very clear this indictment is still in play, just portions of it are now gone. >> and so as we have been talking about, this comes at a time when we're still awaiting the decision from judge mcafee on whether to disqualify d.a. fani willis from this case. the judge has intimated he essentially has
fani willis. in fact, at the original setting of the evidentiary hearing, he was actually doing the oral arguments on some of these motions. and i think that's really telling that we're getting this order today. it shows that judge mcafee is doing the work that needs to be done, and, number two, i think it also shows -- in my opinion -- why would you be doing this if you're going to disqualify fani willis anyway. don't hold me to this, it is not gospel, but i think that is an interesting thing...
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now this case has gone towards was perjury committed by nathan wade and fani willis, and so unfortunately at this point, i think the judge is going to have to address whether or not that has been committed and whether that is enough to be able to take off fani willis from this prosecution. >> all right, so we, again, are watching the lawyers who are there for each of the defense -- for each of the defense teams are there, they're introducing themselves. there's seven defendants there in total, multiple lawyers for many of those defendants. this could be quite a few hours of arguments. lisa rubin is also with us, andrew weissmann is also with us there at the table with me. let's talk quickly about georgia law here and what needs to be proven. an article written by our friend joyce vance and a couple of others talks about how georgia law, georgia law on conflict of interest does not apply here. >> i agree with that, and there's sort of a legal component to this, and there's a factual component, and the unfortunate part is whether i agree, you agree and joyce
now this case has gone towards was perjury committed by nathan wade and fani willis, and so unfortunately at this point, i think the judge is going to have to address whether or not that has been committed and whether that is enough to be able to take off fani willis from this prosecution. >> all right, so we, again, are watching the lawyers who are there for each of the defense -- for each of the defense teams are there, they're introducing themselves. there's seven defendants there in...
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fani willis accepted nathan wade's resignation meeting the case will move forward as planned. consider that even in losing, trump world got most of what it wanted. as we speak, there are emails flooding inboxes, disingenuously shouting "look here, fani willis is corrupt ." there's no legitimacy to that but it goes beyond those attacks, considering the motion to remove tran 16 and wade from the case, filed january 8th. trumps team ran out the clock for two months, and exasperated the development, given what we discussed yesterday. that is how successful trump has been in deploying a topic -- a tactic of delay. it's a potential offramp for the disgraced ex-president and his legal troubles and eight months separate the american people from the prospect of that bid although, we should never forget what this case was about, a sitting president actively working to undermine the result of a free and fair election and here's what happened when it did. >> calling for backup. >> they were peaceful people, these are great people. the crowd was unbelievable and i mentioned the love, the l
fani willis accepted nathan wade's resignation meeting the case will move forward as planned. consider that even in losing, trump world got most of what it wanted. as we speak, there are emails flooding inboxes, disingenuously shouting "look here, fani willis is corrupt ." there's no legitimacy to that but it goes beyond those attacks, considering the motion to remove tran 16 and wade from the case, filed january 8th. trumps team ran out the clock for two months, and exasperated the...
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there are emails flooding inboxes shouting look here, and fani willis is corrupt. no legitimacy to that but it goes even beyond those attacks. consider the motion to remove fani willis and wade from the fulton county case filed on january 8th, 67 days ago. trumps team run out the clock for two months, and exceptionally exasperating development for the role of locke crowd given what we discussed on this program yesterday. that is how do successful trump has been an employee in the tactic of delay at all costs. election day a potential offramp for the disgraced ex- president and his legal troubles and only eight months now separate the american people from the prospect of that although we should never forget what this case was about. it is about a sitting president actively working to undermine the results of a free and fair election and this is what happened when he did. so, despite hours of droning punditry about what did and did not happen there, that is what this is about and the upshot is this, team trump came for the king and the queen in this instance and they
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and gave fani willis and ultimatum to either she and her office leave the case, or wade. in a letter wade writes, he is resigning to move this case forward as quickly as possible. for willis, friday's ruling is a legal victory, but a professional below. following this stunning two hour testimony. >> it is a lie. >> judge scott mcafee holding what he called her, a professional manner, on the stand. not dismissing the case out right as a defense that asked, mcafee takes willis to task over, " this tremendous lapse in judgment. " trump attorney says he will , " use all legal options available as we continue to fight to end this case. " alex, we have heard from a couple of the defense attorneys who are part of the motion to remove fani willis. a couple have said they are essentially considering all options in response to the decision. one has a ready indicated that an appeal is not off the table in this situation alex. >> stay with me. i have a few more questions on the georgia case. as we have been discussing, there is a lot to discuss regarding former president trump legall
and gave fani willis and ultimatum to either she and her office leave the case, or wade. in a letter wade writes, he is resigning to move this case forward as quickly as possible. for willis, friday's ruling is a legal victory, but a professional below. following this stunning two hour testimony. >> it is a lie. >> judge scott mcafee holding what he called her, a professional manner, on the stand. not dismissing the case out right as a defense that asked, mcafee takes willis to task...
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fani willis stays or goes. the judge dismissing six counts in the sweeping racketeering indictment including three against the former president. what led to the decision? and what it means for trump and his co-defendants. >>> plus the last time america pitted the same pair of presidential nominees against each other two elections in a row, gas was a quarter, a burger was less, and donald trump and joe biden were just kids. now americans have the rematch most say they never wanted but voted for anyway. and it ramps up the veepstakes for trump. what the price of admission could be. >>> and one storm washes away more than half a million dollars' worth of investment. what an oceanfront community is now asking for after watching its brand new protective sand dune disintegrate. >>> a lot to get to, but we start with that breaking news out of georgia. judge scott mcafee throwing out three of the 13 criminal counts against donald trump, adding a new dose of uncertainty to a case that already has a ton of it. in all, mc
fani willis stays or goes. the judge dismissing six counts in the sweeping racketeering indictment including three against the former president. what led to the decision? and what it means for trump and his co-defendants. >>> plus the last time america pitted the same pair of presidential nominees against each other two elections in a row, gas was a quarter, a burger was less, and donald trump and joe biden were just kids. now americans have the rematch most say they never wanted but...
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i'm not going to condone what fani willis and mr. wait, did i, mean it was very unwise to do that, but the fact of the matter is, in order to get a disqualification fear under georgia law, as i understand it, comment since tells you you have to actually allege something in prove something if you are defense. we there is a conflict and actual conflict that harms the defense. they didn't do that. there is nothing for -- nothing make saints about it. the notion that if -- even if she was getting kickbacks, you know, effectively from wade, i don't see how that actually affects the prosecution. even though the prosecution is based upon a grand jury indictment, two grand juries in fact passed on this. it is either going to succeed or fail on its own merits. if i hire a simone -- if i have a relationship, i'm a general counsel, i hire you to bring a case and you over bill me and you get money back to me, i don't know how the defendant has anything to say about that. the same would apply. >> well it would be wrong, on a number of fronts, but
i'm not going to condone what fani willis and mr. wait, did i, mean it was very unwise to do that, but the fact of the matter is, in order to get a disqualification fear under georgia law, as i understand it, comment since tells you you have to actually allege something in prove something if you are defense. we there is a conflict and actual conflict that harms the defense. they didn't do that. there is nothing for -- nothing make saints about it. the notion that if -- even if she was getting...
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here is the d.a., fani willis' acceptance of this resignation. i accept it, she says, effective immediately. i complement you for the professionalism and dignity you have shown over the last 865 days, as you have endured threats against you and your family, as well as unjustified attacks in the media, and in court, on your reputation as a lawyer. she goes on to say, others who were considered were understandably concerned for the safety of themselves and their families that would arise from their acceptance of your role. you were the one who had the courage to accept the role even though you did not seek it. blayne alexander joins us now from atlanta. this was expected, what do you make of the point that both fan willis and nathan wade say, about their safety? >> reporter: you know, it is something that they've been saying all along. i think that, one, fani willis has certainly been talking about safety for quite some time and the fact that she has referred a number of threats and something that came up in the evidentiary hearing, she had to move
here is the d.a., fani willis' acceptance of this resignation. i accept it, she says, effective immediately. i complement you for the professionalism and dignity you have shown over the last 865 days, as you have endured threats against you and your family, as well as unjustified attacks in the media, and in court, on your reputation as a lawyer. she goes on to say, others who were considered were understandably concerned for the safety of themselves and their families that would arise from...
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it doesn't look good for fani willis. it looks like he's trying to say, this is what this case will look lick before i tell the world who gets to prosecute it. >> maybe or maybe not. >> right. >> we would all be reading it wrong. >> that's correct. >> and i do want to just mention as a little extra note on the better jones case you mentioned, my understanding is that one's been left in limbo for more than 18 months at this point, where it was taken away, and has not been reassigned. >> to be clear, it's not a case, right, it's still an investigation. it was in the investigatory stages at the point in time that another judge if in fulton county disqualified fani willis from further investigating better bert jones. >> separate case. >> correct. >> but gives us a little bit of a road map if it were to happen in this case, were fani willis to be taken off because of the misconduct allegations. >> i do want to answer a question you asked me earlier, which defendants are impacted by the dismissal of these charges? when i look a
it doesn't look good for fani willis. it looks like he's trying to say, this is what this case will look lick before i tell the world who gets to prosecute it. >> maybe or maybe not. >> right. >> we would all be reading it wrong. >> that's correct. >> and i do want to just mention as a little extra note on the better jones case you mentioned, my understanding is that one's been left in limbo for more than 18 months at this point, where it was taken away, and has...
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fani willis, she has a couple of options. the one most people would look at, that she should be be disqualifying wade and remove him from the case and she is able to proceed. but she has the option to appeal this, if she so chooses. so certainly, it is going to be a question of what she decides to do, and when she decides to do it. >> we're still waiting, as we said, on the d.a. fani willis' decision, it is seeming unlikely that she would say that nathan wade would stay off, but her office would be dismissing this. any indication, when she does make the decision, or officially announce, it what's going to happen next with this sweeping case? >> reporter: well, i think that the next thing that we look at is the time line, right? officially, a couple of trial dates have been thrown out. the only one of those, the most recent, was mid august, and that was, many people believed, an unrealistic time line, even before we got into this kind of side motion to dismiss her. so given the fact that over the last two and a half months we
fani willis, she has a couple of options. the one most people would look at, that she should be be disqualifying wade and remove him from the case and she is able to proceed. but she has the option to appeal this, if she so chooses. so certainly, it is going to be a question of what she decides to do, and when she decides to do it. >> we're still waiting, as we said, on the d.a. fani willis' decision, it is seeming unlikely that she would say that nathan wade would stay off, but her...
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it had nothing to do with fani willis. it was quite significant, there are audio recordings that we have in the book. >> michael -- i want to pause for a moment. the fight the fact that you expertly explained the information, the way and when it was presented by the attorney, harry mcdougal, i want to play it for folks to remind them of how this all went down, the quoting of your book, then we'll come back. >> sure. >> the second conflict is her political ambition, for which she was -- judgment bernie. that is also present in this book. the inside flap of this book says, they were given, quote, exclusive access to thousands of secret documents, emails, text messages, and audio recordings. the court has twice tonight the motions to unseal special purpose grand jury materials. she helped herself to get the glory of this book. >> so, you are watching this moment at home, i assume? or you heard about it? >> no, i was watching it in realtime. you know, again, great to see him waving around the book, but totally misrepresenting
it had nothing to do with fani willis. it was quite significant, there are audio recordings that we have in the book. >> michael -- i want to pause for a moment. the fight the fact that you expertly explained the information, the way and when it was presented by the attorney, harry mcdougal, i want to play it for folks to remind them of how this all went down, the quoting of your book, then we'll come back. >> sure. >> the second conflict is her political ambition, for which...
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but, the judge gave fani willis an ultimatum. either you or wade goes. which he did hours later, when he resigned as a special prosecutor. as trump's many legal cases continue to >> all of the oxygen from the room, with justice ever be served before this year's battle at the ballot box? joining me now is msn legal analyst, former u.s. attorney and professor at alabama school of law in one of the cohosts of # this is my podcast, joyce vance. let's start with what judge mcafee did yesterday in terms of mixing legal standards to reach a decision, what are your thoughts? >> katie, you know my view from the get go on this one was that the only relevant determination under georgia law was whether fani willis had a financial conflict of interest in this case. it was clear she did not. the defendants were obligated to prove it up if they wanted to see her disqualified. they never got there. ultimately, the judge reaches the correct view. there has been some discussed -- discussion of what he went too far in the opinion. he did seem to stray into areas he did not
but, the judge gave fani willis an ultimatum. either you or wade goes. which he did hours later, when he resigned as a special prosecutor. as trump's many legal cases continue to >> all of the oxygen from the room, with justice ever be served before this year's battle at the ballot box? joining me now is msn legal analyst, former u.s. attorney and professor at alabama school of law in one of the cohosts of # this is my podcast, joyce vance. let's start with what judge mcafee did yesterday...
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is he angry the fulton county case will carry on despite the hit to the reputation of fani willis. >>> also tiktok and free speech. sarah jacobs on why she voted against banning the popular app. >>> and putin will certainly get another term but what does it mean for the world? let's do it. >>> we start this hour with that breaking news out of new jersey we have been following throughout the day on msnbc. police confirming a murder suspect is in custody in the city of trenton, new jersey after killing three people in pennsylvania and then fleeing to jersey in a vehicle he car jacked. george is in new jersey for us. bring us up to speed on what we have learned in the last couple of hours. i know this is a fast moving story. we understand that after hours of police surrounding a home a suspect had managed to slip away but then was found elsewhere. >> reporter: yeah, seemingly walking among the people after this hourlong barricade. this 26-year-old suspect who allegedly holed up in this home behind me here and then giving police a run for their money in a sense. s.w.a.t was here, the atf,
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willis's team wants to present from a guy who works at napa who says he saw fani willis pay a bill with $400 cash, presumably he remembers because almost nobody uses cash these days. so they're trying to present that evidence in this case. remind me, even if they did all of the things that they're accused of doing, why would that affect the original prosecution of these originally 19 co-defendants for trying to overturn an election. >> that's a good question. even if you accept the premise she has financially benefitted from her appointment of her boyfriend nathan wade as a special prosecutor, you have to go one step further for georgia law to see a disqualifying conflict of interest. you have to show that the defendants themselves were disadvantaged somehow by the appointment of nathan wade while he was also fani willis's boyfriend and paying for trips. and i'm not sure, katy, even if all of the allegations here are true that you can cross that threshold and find that she should be disqualified. >> all right, so the judge is now talking about cell phone records, which the defense team
willis's team wants to present from a guy who works at napa who says he saw fani willis pay a bill with $400 cash, presumably he remembers because almost nobody uses cash these days. so they're trying to present that evidence in this case. remind me, even if they did all of the things that they're accused of doing, why would that affect the original prosecution of these originally 19 co-defendants for trying to overturn an election. >> that's a good question. even if you accept the...
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the case should have been folk ousing on whether or not there was a financial benefit to fani willis because her boyfriend nathan wade was appointed prosecutor. terrence bradley ceding more than 400 text messages to a defense attorney on the other side, ashley merchant, she represents michael roman. as a result of the text messages, roman is the one who filed the motion to disqualify fani willis, and now we're going into the area of what is perjury committed by wade and willis when they swore under oath that their relationship began after wade was appointed special prosecutor. there should be about 15 minutes apportioned for these oral arguments. remember, there is several defendants on the side of the defense. so judge mcafee will afford them the opportunity to be heard. but there is also the issue of nathan wade's cell phone records, they were pulled by steve sadow, the lawyer for donald trump. their admissibility will be addressed today. the cell phone records according to the defense indicating that wade and willis spent time that suggests there was more going on other than just
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he also talked about the fact that fani willis' former friend, an employee of the district attorney's office who claimed the relationship began sometime in 2019, or 2020, that that lacked context and detail that allowed him to put very much stake in what she had to say. but he did consider, he says, the cell phone testimony. that is essentially the affidavit from an expert that was trying to interpret the cell phone data that trump tried to put in at the last minute and he also says he considered what he characterizes as an unorthodox decision by fani willis to talk extensively to the author and co-author of the book "find the votes." that is something the judge made a lot out of the evidentiary hearings but said that it was the defendant's burden to establish a conflict of interest here at the end of the day. and even though an actual conflict of interest need not be one, according to judge mcafee, that prejudice is the defendant's. but that they just fell short of establishing conclusively, in his mind, that there was an actual conflict of interest that justified the disqualificatio
he also talked about the fact that fani willis' former friend, an employee of the district attorney's office who claimed the relationship began sometime in 2019, or 2020, that that lacked context and detail that allowed him to put very much stake in what she had to say. but he did consider, he says, the cell phone testimony. that is essentially the affidavit from an expert that was trying to interpret the cell phone data that trump tried to put in at the last minute and he also says he...
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he was quite critical of fani willis. he said there was no conflict of interest that there might've been a perception of impropriety that will affect the outcome. in your opinion, was the judge putting his thumb on the scale? i was asking melissa murray. i have to be very specific. >> occupational hazard. we talked about this last night. i do think that judge mcafee went beyond his remit. some language was a harsh and even a little startling. he noted an odor of mendacity still attends this entire prosecution. that could be viewed as this judge perhaps priming prospective jurors. melissa redman noted we are far from jury selection but it is unusual for the judge to have such sharp language, especially in an order conceding that there is actual conflict of interest here. it seems to be beyond the pale and a bit like a public scolding for fani willis and nathan wade. >> you were a deputy d.a.. this case in manhattan is interesting because the d.a. had asked for documents on the southern district of new york which is part of
he was quite critical of fani willis. he said there was no conflict of interest that there might've been a perception of impropriety that will affect the outcome. in your opinion, was the judge putting his thumb on the scale? i was asking melissa murray. i have to be very specific. >> occupational hazard. we talked about this last night. i do think that judge mcafee went beyond his remit. some language was a harsh and even a little startling. he noted an odor of mendacity still attends...
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time for closing arguments that could determine whether fulton county d.a fani willis stays on the case. >>> a final farewell to alexei navalny in russia. loved ones and supporters risk arrest to honor the opposition leader as vladimir putin further tightens his grip. ♪♪ >>> hello and thank you for joining us. i'm anna cabrera in for andrea mitchell. this hour, new developments in two of the four cases facing donald trump whose legal team has taken a strategy of delay. trump in the courtroom today. the trial schedule is a key part of this hearing. the case has been bogged down by pre-trial motions from donald trump's attorneys demanding access to sensitive material which jack smith wants to keep sealed for security reasons. trump is facing 40 criminal charges in the document case, including being part of a scheme to delete security video at mar-a-lago. closing arguments are set to begin in fulton county, georgia, in a battle over whether d.a. willis will be disqualified from the case there over her relationship with a member of her group. and hanging over this, the decision of wheth
time for closing arguments that could determine whether fulton county d.a fani willis stays on the case. >>> a final farewell to alexei navalny in russia. loved ones and supporters risk arrest to honor the opposition leader as vladimir putin further tightens his grip. ♪♪ >>> hello and thank you for joining us. i'm anna cabrera in for andrea mitchell. this hour, new developments in two of the four cases facing donald trump whose legal team has taken a strategy of delay....
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fani willis or whether special prosecutor nathan wade might have perjured themselves on the stand. the dea and her team have vehemently denied this. they say they have been taking telling the truth the entire time. the defense council is trying to catch them in a lie, arguing that that in and of itself is enough to remove them. >> does judge mcafee, i mean he didn't allow new evidence in today, right? this was sort of like closing arguments, if you will. did he seem interested and open to the idea that the thing that should disqualify fani willis is lying about the timeline of her relationship? >> i think that is something he was stressed testing with the lawyers on the stand today, trying to figure, out okay, what's the law on this issue? what's out there that could lead me to rule one way or the other? and he really has not given a great sense over where his head is at, which is a bit unusual for him. he tends to at least give us a hint about what he is thinking. but he mentioned wanting to take the time to really get this right over the next two or so weeks before making a deter
fani willis or whether special prosecutor nathan wade might have perjured themselves on the stand. the dea and her team have vehemently denied this. they say they have been taking telling the truth the entire time. the defense council is trying to catch them in a lie, arguing that that in and of itself is enough to remove them. >> does judge mcafee, i mean he didn't allow new evidence in today, right? this was sort of like closing arguments, if you will. did he seem interested and open to...
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both in new york, with alvin bragg or with fani willis in fulton county. so what i suggest is that maybe he or his attorneys believe he's going to be convicted. why would you stall it, mr. president, unless you know you're going to be convicted and evidence is so overwhelming. because you really are stalling what is inevitable. you're going on trial. whether it is before or after the election. so what you're stalling is trying to go to jail. the other thing i think that are big losers here are some of the co-defendants. because if they had ruled fani willis could not try this and it had gone to another county and it may have never gone to court, giuliani and everybody else charged would have had another day. they had a bad night last night. because when they ruled today that fani willis could stay there, that means rudy giuliani and all of the cohorts that have a day in court and a day probably of conviction. and i think that we're missing a lot of that. so, yes, i would like to see it before the election. but i know subliminally, donald trump must really
both in new york, with alvin bragg or with fani willis in fulton county. so what i suggest is that maybe he or his attorneys believe he's going to be convicted. why would you stall it, mr. president, unless you know you're going to be convicted and evidence is so overwhelming. because you really are stalling what is inevitable. you're going on trial. whether it is before or after the election. so what you're stalling is trying to go to jail. the other thing i think that are big losers here are...
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if you are fani willis, what should you be doing here? >> i think this may be one of the few places where andrew and i have a slight disagreement. i think it was always going to be the case that fani willis would be targeted here. the effort to disqualify her was precipitated by a broader effort by gop people in georgia to limit her discretion as prosecutor so she's been a target for a long time and she will continue to be a target. whether or not she stays on this case, they're coming after her and as a black woman in that elected position where she is supposed to represent the people of fulton county she has to see this case through and she has the expertise to do so so again, i think there is chum in the water certainly and she's going to be a target going forward but because there is no actual conflict of interest here i think she should stay on. >> disagreement is healthy, by the way. let's talk about your book. let me start with you, and are, because we are clearly seen of course, in all of these cases, judge aileen cannon and the s
if you are fani willis, what should you be doing here? >> i think this may be one of the few places where andrew and i have a slight disagreement. i think it was always going to be the case that fani willis would be targeted here. the effort to disqualify her was precipitated by a broader effort by gop people in georgia to limit her discretion as prosecutor so she's been a target for a long time and she will continue to be a target. whether or not she stays on this case, they're coming...
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fani willis can stay on this case, is there still a chance she could be removed? >> reporter: there is because we know that it's going to be appealed. when we kind of look at just the time line of this. judge scott mcafee has already given the green light for trump and his co-defendants to appeal. steve sadow has told me in conversation he has every intention of doing just that, and he's got until monday to file that paperwork. so we know that there's going to be an appeal, but what's interesting about this, chris, is that we now have two parallel tracks playing out, while this makes its way through the appeals court, we wait to see whether it's going to be taken up, what happens there. it's also going to be moving full steam ahead here in the fulton county court. so we know that what we had before was all of this was kind of lumped together basically, nothing was moving forward in the case until we decided, until the issue of whether fani willis would stay on the case was actually decided. now those two things are separate. the appeals process is going to be movi
fani willis can stay on this case, is there still a chance she could be removed? >> reporter: there is because we know that it's going to be appealed. when we kind of look at just the time line of this. judge scott mcafee has already given the green light for trump and his co-defendants to appeal. steve sadow has told me in conversation he has every intention of doing just that, and he's got until monday to file that paperwork. so we know that there's going to be an appeal, but what's...
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fani willis, fani willis is attempting to do a rico investigation of donald trump. somehow, her personal relationship, not with the judge, not with somebody on the other side where it would be a conflict of interest, but literally her interpersonal relationships have now gotten trump to be able to delay even that case. and that was the one that was untouchable because it's a state case. he can't pardon himself from it. yet even that case is thwarted, while his c-list defense gets to try to humiliate this woman about how much cash she has in her house. so she gets humiliated publicly, and he, again, walks away. >> yeah, so andrew weissmann, as we all know, has such an elegant way of explaining things, but i would kind of make it a little bit more blunt because it's not just a two-tier system or a double standard system. it's actually a different total standard. it's the trump effect. it's the bending over backwards by not only the judiciary but by prosecutors for fear of the political prosecution angle that is being touted by trump. it's this idea that one man and on
fani willis, fani willis is attempting to do a rico investigation of donald trump. somehow, her personal relationship, not with the judge, not with somebody on the other side where it would be a conflict of interest, but literally her interpersonal relationships have now gotten trump to be able to delay even that case. and that was the one that was untouchable because it's a state case. he can't pardon himself from it. yet even that case is thwarted, while his c-list defense gets to try to...
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again, always going to be the case that fani willis would be targeted . the effort to disqualify her was precipitated by a broader effort by gop people in georgia to limit her discretion as prosecutor. she has been a target for a long time and continues to be a target. they are coming after her. as a black woman in that position, an elected position where she is supposed to represent the people of fulton county, she has the expertise to see this case through. i think there is chum in the water and she will be a target going forward. because there is no actual conflict of interest, she should stay on it. >> disagreement is healthy, especially among really smart lawyers. >> let's talk about your book. andrew, we are seeing -- judge aileen cannon in florida and the supreme court are slow walking things with note trial date in georgia and the manhattan case delayed. none of these cases are working the way they should in your book , you write about other countries that are able to bring the former leaders to justice, in france, italy, argentina, when we think
again, always going to be the case that fani willis would be targeted . the effort to disqualify her was precipitated by a broader effort by gop people in georgia to limit her discretion as prosecutor. she has been a target for a long time and continues to be a target. they are coming after her. as a black woman in that position, an elected position where she is supposed to represent the people of fulton county, she has the expertise to see this case through. i think there is chum in the water...
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where the bratt case and fani willis case come in. seeing what they're trying to do in the fani willis case. we don't know. as america, if you are on the side of democracy and want to protect democracy, you get one vote and got a voice to get your neighbors out to vote with you. we can't rely on the court system but i suggest that the wheels are still grinding. just very, very slowly. >> and let me be clear. i don't know there's anyone that does what i have the privilege of doing every day. more interested in, or who admires more the people who do the hard work of trying to apply some sort of legal accountability to someone like donald trump. but i think since the first day of his presidency, in coving those clashes with the fbi director to comey to 23 months covering the mueller probe and efforts to undermine credibility of the investigators and the actual substance of that investigation and volumes one and two, what is clear is that it is an asymmetrical contest. it is not proven possible for the rule of law to catch donald trump co
where the bratt case and fani willis case come in. seeing what they're trying to do in the fani willis case. we don't know. as america, if you are on the side of democracy and want to protect democracy, you get one vote and got a voice to get your neighbors out to vote with you. we can't rely on the court system but i suggest that the wheels are still grinding. just very, very slowly. >> and let me be clear. i don't know there's anyone that does what i have the privilege of doing every...
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did the relationship begin before fani willis hired nathan wade? he said absolutely, and then he gave a date as to when, he gave specific information. >> he said it was even before willis became the d.a. of fulton county dating back to the 2020, the year 2020. >> and he was in a position to know. he was nathan wade's lawyer and law partner, so it's not clear he was hearing this speculating from other people. he was right there in the office, and there were also very specific exchanges between ashleigh merchant and terrence bradley on the stand where information that he had been communicing to her, very detailed, very specific, now all of a sudden he can't remember anything. i think the judge is likely to say he was not credible on the stand. the phone records are damning, there have been references in trump's filings to them. there are text messages and there are calls that show that fani willis and nathan wade were communicating prior to her hiring him in 2021 at all hours of the night, midnight, 4:00 a.m. text messages, you know, just based on th
did the relationship begin before fani willis hired nathan wade? he said absolutely, and then he gave a date as to when, he gave specific information. >> he said it was even before willis became the d.a. of fulton county dating back to the 2020, the year 2020. >> and he was in a position to know. he was nathan wade's lawyer and law partner, so it's not clear he was hearing this speculating from other people. he was right there in the office, and there were also very specific...
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not surprisingly, nathan wade promptly tended his letter of resignation and fani willis accepted it. you know, i think judge mcagree mcagree went a little too far. and i don't know that he had to go that far. but i think it was the right call, that because there's absolutely no conflict and absolutely no prejudice to any defendant of course fani willis and the district attorney's office should not be recused from the case. >> so, melissa, let's talk about some of that inflammatory language. judge mcafee criticized d.a. willis saying an odor of men dasity remains around her actions. how can language like that have an impact on willis as a prosecutor? >> well, we know that there are many challenges that d.a. willis will face outside of this particular motion to disqualify. in fact, judge mcafee mentioned some of those in his order, that there are other means by which any perceived impropriety or dishonesty or misconduct on behalf of the d.a. can be handled. through the state bar of georgia. there's a state senate committee currently investigating the district attorney and the prosecuto
not surprisingly, nathan wade promptly tended his letter of resignation and fani willis accepted it. you know, i think judge mcagree mcagree went a little too far. and i don't know that he had to go that far. but i think it was the right call, that because there's absolutely no conflict and absolutely no prejudice to any defendant of course fani willis and the district attorney's office should not be recused from the case. >> so, melissa, let's talk about some of that inflammatory...
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the testimony that's been provided by a number of witnesses, including fani willis herself and nathan wade. but it is worth mentioning, quickly, ali, that the star witness for the defense, in fact he was called the star witness because there was a huge promise that we're over delivered by the defense in terms of terrence bradley, the former divorce attorney, he's the only witness that took the stand twice over the course of this evidentiary hearing, and he was a big wamp wamp for the defense, he refused to corroborate, or affirm what the defense said which is that he had provided all of this very salacious information behind the scenes about his former client nathan wade. the defense is saying that fani willis still got a personal financial benefit, but when the judge asked can you to defend that? the defense said it's like obscenity, you know it when you see it. ali, that is not an evidentiary standard, that is what is going to be an important thing for the judge. what is the evidence? can you tune out the white noise? tune out the pressure, all the potential optics of a decision, ca
the testimony that's been provided by a number of witnesses, including fani willis herself and nathan wade. but it is worth mentioning, quickly, ali, that the star witness for the defense, in fact he was called the star witness because there was a huge promise that we're over delivered by the defense in terms of terrence bradley, the former divorce attorney, he's the only witness that took the stand twice over the course of this evidentiary hearing, and he was a big wamp wamp for the defense,...
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fulton coupty da fani willis will remain on the trump case. the judge ruled she could stay if nathan wade, the prosecutor, stepped down. wade in fact did just that. here is my colleague blayne alexander with more. >> reporter: he was front and center when fani willis announced her criminal indictment of donald trump. but tonight, nathan wade, the man leading the prosecution against the former president for allegedly trying to overturn georgia's 2020 election results, has resigned. the culmination of a month's long spectacle after one of trump's codefendants michael roman exposed a romantic relationship between wade and fulton county da fani willis who hired him. she was accused of financially benefiting from her relationship with wade. in a ruling, judge scott mcafee said while he did not find an actual conflict of interest in the case, he found a significant appearance of impropriety that affects the current structure of the prosecution team. and gave willis an ultimatum. either she and her office leave the case or wade. in a letter, wade wri
fulton coupty da fani willis will remain on the trump case. the judge ruled she could stay if nathan wade, the prosecutor, stepped down. wade in fact did just that. here is my colleague blayne alexander with more. >> reporter: he was front and center when fani willis announced her criminal indictment of donald trump. but tonight, nathan wade, the man leading the prosecution against the former president for allegedly trying to overturn georgia's 2020 election results, has resigned. the...
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the second of course the rolling on -- disqualifying fani willis over what the defense contends is a contract -- conflict of interest. some of what the judge today could shed some light on how he may rule on that. joining me now to decode the ruling is katie saying, former prosecutor, you've been following this case almost closer than anyone else. first, just take us through what arguments the defense made about the charges here and why the judge felt compelled to discard them? >> so there is a vehicle and criminal procedure in georgia call is national demurrer and basically it's the defense saying we need more specificity if we want to be able to adequately prepare our defense against the charges that have been set forth in the indictment and judge mcafee found that in certain respects, some of the counts of the indictment that was returned by a grand jury, i want to emphasize that, some of these counts actually did meet that standard to be meriting eating dismissed pursuant to a special demurrer, the idea is it's all the same charges, solicitation of a state official to violate and
the second of course the rolling on -- disqualifying fani willis over what the defense contends is a contract -- conflict of interest. some of what the judge today could shed some light on how he may rule on that. joining me now to decode the ruling is katie saying, former prosecutor, you've been following this case almost closer than anyone else. first, just take us through what arguments the defense made about the charges here and why the judge felt compelled to discard them? >> so...
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judge mcafee just granted trump and his team their request to appeal his decision to keep fani willis on the case. what happens next here? >> well, a georgia court can now pick up this case and review it. trump's attorneys are optimistic this means a higher court in georgia will agree with judge mcafee about fani willis being able to stay on this case and they might find her removed at some point, which would then require another d.a.'s office in georgia to pick up this case. and would lead to this case going away at least in terms of something that could conceivably happen before the election in november. remember, judge mcafee's decision which led to nathan wade stepping down, but fani willis staying on this case, was blistering in terms of describing willis' conduct, more so in the kind of cover-up post relationship phase of this process as opposed to the actual actions on which the court got started down this path. all of that now fair game for an appellate court in georgia to review. >> how would you explain this? what is your reaction to it? >> you know, honestly, garrett covere
judge mcafee just granted trump and his team their request to appeal his decision to keep fani willis on the case. what happens next here? >> well, a georgia court can now pick up this case and review it. trump's attorneys are optimistic this means a higher court in georgia will agree with judge mcafee about fani willis being able to stay on this case and they might find her removed at some point, which would then require another d.a.'s office in georgia to pick up this case. and would...
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because the district attorney, fani willis, has been demanding a trial date for months now. but three hours of closing arguments was heard, and the defense got every bite of the apple to be able to get up to convince judge mcafee that they had met the burden of proof on the preponderance of evidence to show that fani willis should be disqualified as a district attorney. however, chris, i think questioning from the judge indicated that he is some skepticism that the defense has met its burden. number one he said the suggestion of wrongdoing does not meet a preponderance of the evidence standard. and number two, he had questions about the star witness, terrence radley, the former defense lawyer for nathan wade who took the stand twice during this evidentiary hearing the last four weeks. and terrence bradley, as we know, when he took the stand, said he was speculating as to whether fani willis and nathan wade had begun their relationship before he had been appointed a special prosecutor, when wade was appointed special prosecutor. why is that important? when the judge, and i kn
because the district attorney, fani willis, has been demanding a trial date for months now. but three hours of closing arguments was heard, and the defense got every bite of the apple to be able to get up to convince judge mcafee that they had met the burden of proof on the preponderance of evidence to show that fani willis should be disqualified as a district attorney. however, chris, i think questioning from the judge indicated that he is some skepticism that the defense has met its burden....
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it's up to judge scott mcafee to decide whether to disqualify the district attorney fani willis from prosecuting donald trump's georgia election interference case. during closing arguments today, defense lawyers for donald trump and other codefendants alleged that she financially benefited from a romantic relationship with the lead prosecutor nathan wade creating a conflict of interest that should disqualify her. but the state pushed back arguing that the defense had not met their burden of proof to disqualify fani willis, and discrediting the defense star witness who this week has admitted that he was speculating about the details of their relationship. the judge said he will make a decision within two weeks, as the new york times knows the states are high. if miss willis is disqualified from the case, her entire office would be to, and the case would probably be turned over to a district attorney from another jurisdiction. the new prosecutor could choose to continue the case as planned, modify the charges, or drop them. meanwhile, in fort pierce florida today's special counsel jack
it's up to judge scott mcafee to decide whether to disqualify the district attorney fani willis from prosecuting donald trump's georgia election interference case. during closing arguments today, defense lawyers for donald trump and other codefendants alleged that she financially benefited from a romantic relationship with the lead prosecutor nathan wade creating a conflict of interest that should disqualify her. but the state pushed back arguing that the defense had not met their burden of...
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fani willis should be disqualified from the case. lisa, let's talk about what this is and what it is not. it is a splashy headline. counts dropped against donald trump in georgia. seems what the judge is saying is, you didn't explain these well enough. what are you accusing them of? what did the oath of a constitution violation, what do you think they did? >> they can re-file and reindict or appeal the ruling. what judge mcafee pointed out himself, he said in the federal system, you file a motion for a bill of particulars. you ask for greater specificity and detail. if the court says you deserve it, you get it. we move on. we move to trial. georgia law doesn't allow for that. he's saying, i'm constrained here. i wish i had the same powers the federal court does, but this isn't the case in georgia, therefore, i'll give you an extra six months from this order to reindict on these six counts, should you choose to. that having been said, this is not the big deal and the huge victory lap that the trump campaign and steve sato are making i
fani willis should be disqualified from the case. lisa, let's talk about what this is and what it is not. it is a splashy headline. counts dropped against donald trump in georgia. seems what the judge is saying is, you didn't explain these well enough. what are you accusing them of? what did the oath of a constitution violation, what do you think they did? >> they can re-file and reindict or appeal the ruling. what judge mcafee pointed out himself, he said in the federal system, you file...
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fani willis came to qualify for reelection. that's when she spoke to reporters, and of course she was asked about this very committee meeting. she said that the whole thing was a political quest. i want to read you what she said. i think people are angry because i'm going to do the right thing, and stand up for justice, no matter who is the person who did wrong in fulton county. if she is called before the committee, would she appear. that is something she would talk with her lawyer about. that's an important point, chris, earlier today, the chairman of the committee told me they do at some point believe they want to hear from fani willis, and if she doesn't come voluntarily, they would certainly support an subpoena. at the fulton county courthouse, whether or not judge scott mcafee will remove her from the trump interference case. she didn't want to comment on that. she's hopeful the judge will make a decision that is in line with the law. this is certainly notable because these are her first comments since the hearing took pl
fani willis came to qualify for reelection. that's when she spoke to reporters, and of course she was asked about this very committee meeting. she said that the whole thing was a political quest. i want to read you what she said. i think people are angry because i'm going to do the right thing, and stand up for justice, no matter who is the person who did wrong in fulton county. if she is called before the committee, would she appear. that is something she would talk with her lawyer about....
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>> fani willis has moved on. she is going to try this case no matter what it is that the opposition might say to it. good for her. this was really not about her or her illegality. it is about donald trump and his allies tried to steal an election. >> andrew, do want any piece of this? >> what i will say about this is yes, it has been used to undermine the case against trump. using republicans on capitol hill use it to their advantage to defend trump. what i will say is there is a subset of republicans on capitol hill who are worried about the impact these legal cases will have on donald trump and the presidential race. even those that have endorsed him. and, the effects on the down ballot races for senate and the house and other important races. that is a concern in the back of the heads of many republicans . when they are able to use something like this to push back and attack her, it helps them. >> andrew, matt k lewis and former congressman donna edwards, thank you very much, as always, for coming to the sunda
>> fani willis has moved on. she is going to try this case no matter what it is that the opposition might say to it. good for her. this was really not about her or her illegality. it is about donald trump and his allies tried to steal an election. >> andrew, do want any piece of this? >> what i will say about this is yes, it has been used to undermine the case against trump. using republicans on capitol hill use it to their advantage to defend trump. what i will say is there...