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then the second line of questioning for todd blanche from todd merchan was whether donald trump, you know, when he is reposting an article about michael cohen, with his photo on it, questioning his credibility as a potential witness, how does that not directly implicate donald trump as promoting, you know, misinformation or attacks on a potential witness. michael cohen. and todd blanche struggled to directly answer that by saying that, well, reposts or not, technically statements by donald trump. of course, there is a long public record in which donald trump disputed what his lawyer said in that courtroom, but both responses from judge merchan led to -- by todd blanche led to frustrations by judge merchan because he felt like he was not getting a real response to the violations that were contended from the prosecution's office. >> vaughn, thank you for that. i'll go back to the gag hearing, what is going on right now in the courtroom is really interesting. you can see it on the side there, that cohen told pecker, according to the testimony here, that his boss was pleased after he bot
then the second line of questioning for todd blanche from todd merchan was whether donald trump, you know, when he is reposting an article about michael cohen, with his photo on it, questioning his credibility as a potential witness, how does that not directly implicate donald trump as promoting, you know, misinformation or attacks on a potential witness. michael cohen. and todd blanche struggled to directly answer that by saying that, well, reposts or not, technically statements by donald...
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todd blanche goes on to say last night 12 hours ago mr. cohen on a public forum said that he had mental excitement about this trial and his testimony. he has a goal of getting president trump. todd blanche is emphasizing that they should question the credibility of michael cohen who was, yes, a long time friend but somebody who in the years since, we go back to 2018 when these relationships started to fray, has since gone on the attack against donald trump after he was pushed out from donald trump's orbit. it's a lot about the credibility of these witnesses in these opening statements that todd blanche, donald trump's attorney is trying to hit home for this jury. >> and again, another objection to testimony, rather statements made by todd blanche, trump's attorney that was also sustained by judge merchan just a moment ago, and another bench conference that's taking place. we're going to come back to these opening statements in just a moment, but there is another trump legal hearing underway right now dealing with the civil fraud trial, and
todd blanche goes on to say last night 12 hours ago mr. cohen on a public forum said that he had mental excitement about this trial and his testimony. he has a goal of getting president trump. todd blanche is emphasizing that they should question the credibility of michael cohen who was, yes, a long time friend but somebody who in the years since, we go back to 2018 when these relationships started to fray, has since gone on the attack against donald trump after he was pushed out from donald...
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he has to rely on people like todd blanche and others to be his advocates in court. what is it like? you not only witnessed it this morning, you felt the energy, but to see somebody like todd blanche smacked down by the judge in that way. >> i think it's a really interesting question, and i think it's problematic in multiple respects. today, donald trump has -- todd has been selective in the case where is he's gone up before the judge. it's the classified documents where they have a judge in effect pulling in their favor, and todd has won every single time. idea and today for the first two times todd has lost. today, it was really visceral. i mean, for the judge to tell a defense lawyer, you're losing all credibility with the court, you don't have to be a lawyer to know that's bad. when you're the client, and you're the defendant in a criminal trial, and your lawyer is getting admonished like that, i have to imagine that it starts the pecker relationship between trump and todd blanche. one thing that was interesting, after that colloquy ended, and todd sat back down,
he has to rely on people like todd blanche and others to be his advocates in court. what is it like? you not only witnessed it this morning, you felt the energy, but to see somebody like todd blanche smacked down by the judge in that way. >> i think it's a really interesting question, and i think it's problematic in multiple respects. today, donald trump has -- todd has been selective in the case where is he's gone up before the judge. it's the classified documents where they have a judge...
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here is a part of a conversation, i want to read back to you, between judge merchan and todd blanche. judge merchan, quote, have you spoken with mr. avenatti about what he means? blanch responded, no, of course not. to which judge merchan responded, then how can you interpret what he believes? this is coming down to a moment where this gag order and donald trump will be held in contempt for violating the gag order. we have nine more posts to go through. this is just post number one. >> vaughn hillyard, thank you for that update. let's bring back our legal panel. chuck, just a reaction to what we are hearing from the defense now as it is their turn in this gag order hearing. >> it is their turn and you're hearing what you would expect to hear, that it wasn't willful and that mr. trump has first amendment rights to speak, particularly during a political campaign. i don't find it terribly avowing. the fact he was only replying to mr. avenatti doesn't cut it for me. >> do you believe that avenatti is now the subject of the hearing, again? >> wouldn't it be nice if some people, not naming
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>> there was this one moment where i could see one juror nodding along when todd blanche had made the point that, it was in this moment where he was saying that influencing an t election is not a crime, it is democracy. there was a moment he was talking, going further into that statement with just kind me of turning to the page here where he was sort of going through that a little bit further. and, one of the jurors nodded along. where he found it persuasive or he just caught his eye, who knows. but, it did show that it caught the attention of at least one member of the panel. >> professor melissa murray, a former president of the united states has now spent one day of his life as a criminal defendant during testimony in ad criminal trial in front of the jury. >> constitutional law professors all over the country, the mind boggles at this point. we are just about to write exams so this is perfect. s this was an extra in every moment. the idea of a former president of the united states being held to account by a jury of 12 ordinary new yorkers is truly ry an extra ordinary act. andrew
>> there was this one moment where i could see one juror nodding along when todd blanche had made the point that, it was in this moment where he was saying that influencing an t election is not a crime, it is democracy. there was a moment he was talking, going further into that statement with just kind me of turning to the page here where he was sort of going through that a little bit further. and, one of the jurors nodded along. where he found it persuasive or he just caught his eye, who...
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todd blanche made his bet that he's riding on the trump train now and that's his decision. reputationally, that opens up a whole lot of things that are not worth talking about right now. what does it mean in the context of the case? every time he stands up to object, he has less credibility. anytime there's something that comes up with a piece of evidence, he will have less credibility. if this gets to a conviction and we are in are a sentencing phase, he will have less credibility. none of those things are good. all of those things are bad. he has to get into the damage control, quick. >> the judge said he will reserve the decision on the gag order violations and what to do about it. what do you think about that? >> it's going to be tough. if he doesn't make a decision right away it runs the risk of trump continuing to engage in potentially violating behavior. the judge is basically saying, let me digest the arguments and take time and speak to the law clerk and look at the law again, and he is being conscientious. and he has stated to trump's counsel, hey, you are losing
todd blanche made his bet that he's riding on the trump train now and that's his decision. reputationally, that opens up a whole lot of things that are not worth talking about right now. what does it mean in the context of the case? every time he stands up to object, he has less credibility. anytime there's something that comes up with a piece of evidence, he will have less credibility. if this gets to a conviction and we are in are a sentencing phase, he will have less credibility. none of...
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when it was over, todd blanche was moved to second chair. it was on to business, part two of the questioning of david pecker. pecker, who owned american media inc. in the early '90s was a smooth talking silver haired man who seems to have almost idolized donald trump. he described him as someone americans respected as the boss on "the apprentice," which was also the way michael cohen referred to trump. pecker said the trump covers were consistently the "national enquirer's" best seller. the other covers that sold a lot of enquirer magazines on the supermarket news stands, covers featuring stories about bill clinton's womanizing and hillary clinton enabling him. making the deal with michael cohen, something he says happened in august 2015 with cohen and then campaign communications director hope hicks in the room, was a win-win. the enquirer would publish negative stories about trump's opponents which they did repeatedly, particularly when ben carson, ted cruz, and marco rubio started rising in the polls in the spring of 2016. at the same tim
when it was over, todd blanche was moved to second chair. it was on to business, part two of the questioning of david pecker. pecker, who owned american media inc. in the early '90s was a smooth talking silver haired man who seems to have almost idolized donald trump. he described him as someone americans respected as the boss on "the apprentice," which was also the way michael cohen referred to trump. pecker said the trump covers were consistently the "national enquirer's"...
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and that is todd blanche. and "the new york times" reporting that he's not been following instructions closely, this is according to trump, and that he's been insufficiently aggressive, that trump wants him to attack witnesses, attack what the former president sees as a hostile jury pool, attack the judge, juan merchan, trump has also wondered aloud why his lawyers cost so much. your reaction to that. could we see the lawyers for donald trump be changed? >> could they withdraw? well, probably not at this stage. can trump fire them? yeah. a client can generally hire and fire any attorneys he wants. although judge merchan, if he perceives that as a ploy to delay the trial, that would be a problem. but generally speaking, the client can hire and fire his lawyers. you're not stuck with them unless they're court appointed and you can usually fire them as well. look, i think at this point, years in, if you decide to sign a retainer agreement with donald trump, you know this is part of the deal. it happens a lot that
and that is todd blanche. and "the new york times" reporting that he's not been following instructions closely, this is according to trump, and that he's been insufficiently aggressive, that trump wants him to attack witnesses, attack what the former president sees as a hostile jury pool, attack the judge, juan merchan, trump has also wondered aloud why his lawyers cost so much. your reaction to that. could we see the lawyers for donald trump be changed? >> could they withdraw?...
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and the defense attorney todd blanche. i want to start tonight with the scene that unfolded today in lower manhattan. it was both extraordinary and kind of ordinary all at the same time. on the one hand, a former president of the united states faced the start of his criminal trial which was historic. who knew we would get here? we were skeptical at times but it was almost surreal. helicopters tracked his every movement as it left trump tower and arrived at the courthouse downtown. of course, cameras rolled on , predictably, and uses entrance and exit and speaking to his supporters and nothing is when he did it. that was all kind of different. kind of extraordinary so are the charges for a former president accused of falsifying this is records to a lovely influence the outcome of an election. but on the other hand, in many ways, what we saw today was very ordinary. a guy who was facing 34 felony counts had his day in court as any defendant in this country is entitled to have. he walked into the same dark cause of that year
and the defense attorney todd blanche. i want to start tonight with the scene that unfolded today in lower manhattan. it was both extraordinary and kind of ordinary all at the same time. on the one hand, a former president of the united states faced the start of his criminal trial which was historic. who knew we would get here? we were skeptical at times but it was almost surreal. helicopters tracked his every movement as it left trump tower and arrived at the courthouse downtown. of course,...
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that is from this potential juror who now todd blanch has a problem with. one other note, chris, that i got from laura jarrett who's in the overflow room along with lisa rubin as well, is that trump has been more animated during this process and when they went to kind of their corners and then subsequently lunch breaked to figure out who would be struck, it seemed as if the former president was very involved in that process as he was in the judge kaplin case. to just things to keep in mind and part of the process. really, this is the process working. >> all right, we may come back to you. thank you very much for that. joining me now, christie greenberg, former federal prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst. i find this fascinating and here's why. we know they have a limited number of strikes that they can use, right, so you're very early in this process. that some accounts may take not just the rest of this week, but potentially next week. so you have a juror in new york city where frankly 90% of people almost are democrats or consider themselves to be leaning
that is from this potential juror who now todd blanch has a problem with. one other note, chris, that i got from laura jarrett who's in the overflow room along with lisa rubin as well, is that trump has been more animated during this process and when they went to kind of their corners and then subsequently lunch breaked to figure out who would be struck, it seemed as if the former president was very involved in that process as he was in the judge kaplin case. to just things to keep in mind and...
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both joshua steinglass and todd blanche got half an hour with the 18 jurors. i think once we see what happens after the lunch break, how many people they strike, and what their -- what the threshold is among the trump folks and in particular for striking jurors, we'll have a better sense of how many days this is going to take. we have 18 people in the jury box. they could get a jury out of that. somehow i doubt that's where we're going to be left. my hope there will be between three and five people left over after this initial round of strikes. >> i don't know, three to five may be optimistic. i'm not there. give us a thumb nail of the pool today, some of the things you heard that were interesting and where you think we are right now. >> sure. and remember we came in yesterday and there was, you know, 96 and half of them just declared they didn't feel for whatever reason they could serve. maybe they couldn't be impartial. we were left with about 50 and more came in today, not a lot, but significant number, i would say three or four, and said they decided overn
both joshua steinglass and todd blanche got half an hour with the 18 jurors. i think once we see what happens after the lunch break, how many people they strike, and what their -- what the threshold is among the trump folks and in particular for striking jurors, we'll have a better sense of how many days this is going to take. we have 18 people in the jury box. they could get a jury out of that. somehow i doubt that's where we're going to be left. my hope there will be between three and five...
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attorney and a former colleague of alvin brad and todd blanche, donald trump's attorney and that would be quite a dinner party i would like to attend with you. one thing that struck me about today is a perception that this trial, there has been, is somehow politically helpful to donald trump, is advantageous to him. i was impressed by the storytelling and all of the details that were discussed, some i had forgotten about. in a recent poll, 64% of voters say the charges in the hush money trial are some somewhat serious and we will see, we do not know how it will impact voters but if you were talking to a voter, you are an elected official politician and a from -- a former prosecutor, what would you say about why this matters to them? >> it's about democracy and whether or not our elections will be free and fair and decided, ultimately, by the people based on the rule of law and election law. what donald trump is alleged to have done it payoff not one, but two potential different women to silence them from coming out with damaging information in the weeks before the election. you will re
attorney and a former colleague of alvin brad and todd blanche, donald trump's attorney and that would be quite a dinner party i would like to attend with you. one thing that struck me about today is a perception that this trial, there has been, is somehow politically helpful to donald trump, is advantageous to him. i was impressed by the storytelling and all of the details that were discussed, some i had forgotten about. in a recent poll, 64% of voters say the charges in the hush money trial...
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i want to read you one quote from todd blanche. quote, president trump had nothing to do with the invoice, with the check being generated or with the entry on the ledger. todd blanche saying you're going to hear salacious stories from the likes of stormy daniels, but her story does not matter to the heart of the crimes that donald trump has been charged with. the 12 jurors and the six alternates have a big task ahead of them in the weeks ahead. they're going to be hearing from two sides with two very different takes on what they should be listening to from the evidence and the testimony that is provided to them from both of these sides. >> vaughn hillyard, thank you very much. >> let's bring in amy, former colleague of d.a. alvin bragg during his time as new york state's chief dep tip general. catherine christian and charles coleman are still with us. amy, let's talk about alvin bragg. talk to me about what you think he brought this case after first deciding not to. that's become an issue, certainly in the opening statement today.
i want to read you one quote from todd blanche. quote, president trump had nothing to do with the invoice, with the check being generated or with the entry on the ledger. todd blanche saying you're going to hear salacious stories from the likes of stormy daniels, but her story does not matter to the heart of the crimes that donald trump has been charged with. the 12 jurors and the six alternates have a big task ahead of them in the weeks ahead. they're going to be hearing from two sides with...
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throughout the day, we've referenced todd blanche. he's his lead attorney, doing most of the talking on behalf of the defense team. what is so key, what he did not respond to, the testimony that came from david pecker, his friend of several decades. he did not explicitly refute there any of the testimony that came from david pecker here today and of course, he would have the opportunity to do that. not only in a public setting but also in the courtroom if he chose to testify himself in his defense. donald trump here heard the words of david pecker testify, number one, that donald trump sat in a meeting in august 2015 with him at trump tower and told him he was pleased about this scheme to catch and kill stories, salacious story, and plant negative stories about rival candidates. we also had david pecker testify in front of donald trump today that trump picked up the phone to call him about the karen mcdougle story. karen mcdougle alleged a ten month affair with him. and what you get from david pecker's testimony in the middle of this
throughout the day, we've referenced todd blanche. he's his lead attorney, doing most of the talking on behalf of the defense team. what is so key, what he did not respond to, the testimony that came from david pecker, his friend of several decades. he did not explicitly refute there any of the testimony that came from david pecker here today and of course, he would have the opportunity to do that. not only in a public setting but also in the courtroom if he chose to testify himself in his...
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this is from todd blanche's mouth to theiary. and then my favorite, there is nothing wrong with trying to influence an election. it's called democracy. that is not how the world works, todd blanche. that is maybe the argument they're going to use because time and time again, telling the american public over and over again, there's nothing to see here, i mean, look, he had impeachments one and two. he didn't get convicted. i think that they believe if you just keep telling people this is just how it works, maybe they can get off, they can get away with it. the difference between then and now is this is a criminal trial, and you're held to a different standard. i was flabbergasted that this is the best they could come up with when faced with a lot of material from the prosecution. >> i also think what's happening here, too, is you're seeing that what's also not normal is somebody like ami and david pecker and dylan howard having to get immunity, because if it's okay to do all of this in journalism, why would you need immunity from
this is from todd blanche's mouth to theiary. and then my favorite, there is nothing wrong with trying to influence an election. it's called democracy. that is not how the world works, todd blanche. that is maybe the argument they're going to use because time and time again, telling the american public over and over again, there's nothing to see here, i mean, look, he had impeachments one and two. he didn't get convicted. i think that they believe if you just keep telling people this is just...
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judge merchan, despite the dispute of todd blanche, donald trump's attorney, said he will allow that evidence directly tied to pecker's meeting at the meeting in 2015 and brought before the jury. some of these pretrial conversations are happening in realtime before the jury selection begins inside. >> vaughn hillyard, thank you very much. >>> next, cameras, protests, police. new york city bracing for what could be the trial of a lifetime. >> we'll get insight from former nypd commissioner bill bratton on the intense security after a short break. stay right there. ort break. stay right there if you have chronic kidney disease you can reduce the risk of kidney failure with farxiga. because there are places you'd like to be. farxiga can cause serious side effects, including ketoacidosis that may be fatal, dehydration, urinary tract, or genital yeast infections, and low blood sugar. a rare, life-threatening bacterial infection in the skin of the perineum could occur. stop taking farxiga and call your doctor right away if you have symptoms of this infection, an allergic reaction, or ketoa
judge merchan, despite the dispute of todd blanche, donald trump's attorney, said he will allow that evidence directly tied to pecker's meeting at the meeting in 2015 and brought before the jury. some of these pretrial conversations are happening in realtime before the jury selection begins inside. >> vaughn hillyard, thank you very much. >>> next, cameras, protests, police. new york city bracing for what could be the trial of a lifetime. >> we'll get insight from former...
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this goes to the tenor of the arguments with todd blanche where he was the judge. he was very much dissecting the timeline of every tweet. when did michael cohen post something? when did trump post something? and so it shows that if trump is angling for something the judge is going to steer it on its own time. >> well, tomorrow would be good for us, since there is no trial scheduled for tomorrow. turn 24, andrew weissman, neal katyal, thank you. really appreciate it. >>> joe biden is putting pressure on donald trump in florida where republican a portion abortion ban goes into effect. elizabeth warren says voters should be concerned about abortion bans. senator warren joins us next. a once-daily pill for moderate to severe plaque psoriasis, and the chance at clear or almost clear skin. it's like the feeling of finding you're so ready for your close-up. or finding you don't have to hide your skin just your background. once-daily sotyktu was proven better, getting more people clearer skin than the leading pill. don't take if you're allergic to sotyktu; serious reactio
this goes to the tenor of the arguments with todd blanche where he was the judge. he was very much dissecting the timeline of every tweet. when did michael cohen post something? when did trump post something? and so it shows that if trump is angling for something the judge is going to steer it on its own time. >> well, tomorrow would be good for us, since there is no trial scheduled for tomorrow. turn 24, andrew weissman, neal katyal, thank you. really appreciate it. >>> joe...
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todd blanche has been challenging a few of the perspective jurors. there's one where he showed a post from hers from 2018 where she says, she said about that post that she stopped after that. she stopped going online and posting on social media because it had become too vitriolic. he asked her whether seeing the post, and i don't have details about the post, causes her to revisit her answers today about being able to be impartial toward donald trump and she says no, politically, there are big differences between her and donald trump but that in coming here, they shouldn't count. she was asked if she has any doubt about her ability to be fair and impartial. merchan asked her if she remembers any of the posts. she remembers one. it's satire from the borowitz report. everybody's got a history here. people have long social media histories. it reminds you whatever you put online has a long life span. >> it's forever. >> it doesn't get deleted. there are ways to dredge it up. if you are posting something in 2018 that's satirical and not favorable to donald
todd blanche has been challenging a few of the perspective jurors. there's one where he showed a post from hers from 2018 where she says, she said about that post that she stopped after that. she stopped going online and posting on social media because it had become too vitriolic. he asked her whether seeing the post, and i don't have details about the post, causes her to revisit her answers today about being able to be impartial toward donald trump and she says no, politically, there are big...
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the fact that todd blanche isn't just his attorney here, he's also for two federal criminal cases. in florida and washington, d.c. so this relationship could set the stage for a long slog. not just in this courtroom, but a couple of others, that arguably have some higher consequences for the former president. how do you think their interactions here could play into those cases going forward and would you think blanche would be thinking about that? >> well, as jeremy points out, these differences between client and counsel, usually almost always occur outside of the presence of the jury. in some instances, it's very natural. the client has a lot on the line and if they don't think they're being fought for in the courtroom then they become very upset about that. but remember that donald trump always plays to a different audience than his attorneys in the courtroom. i think what todd blanche knows that being hostile and irritated and angry and sarcastic in the courtroom is not going to play out well with either the judge, who makes a lot of rulings about what evidence comes in and out
the fact that todd blanche isn't just his attorney here, he's also for two federal criminal cases. in florida and washington, d.c. so this relationship could set the stage for a long slog. not just in this courtroom, but a couple of others, that arguably have some higher consequences for the former president. how do you think their interactions here could play into those cases going forward and would you think blanche would be thinking about that? >> well, as jeremy points out, these...
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here, first of all, the argument is going to be todd blanche is doing his clients' bidding. he doesn't have a judge problem. he has a client problem. and what he is not doing is what appears is you know, when you are a lawyer in a case, you may have clients on both sides. whether it is the prosecutor or the defense. you are an officer of the court first. and so, what the judge is saying you are an officer of the court. when i ask you a question, you have to be candid. it is both the right thing to do and it is strategically the right thing to do. so i mean what we are seeing play out is a client problem. >> neil, i want to read you a point the judge merchan made where he referred to the possibility of being overturned on appeal on this issue of contempt of court by donald trump. he says the fact that the people did not come running in here immediately when your client started reposting things or that the court did not decide to find your client in contempt, a decision that probably would have been overturned on appeal. is not probative of anything you said. you know. maybe w
here, first of all, the argument is going to be todd blanche is doing his clients' bidding. he doesn't have a judge problem. he has a client problem. and what he is not doing is what appears is you know, when you are a lawyer in a case, you may have clients on both sides. whether it is the prosecutor or the defense. you are an officer of the court first. and so, what the judge is saying you are an officer of the court. when i ask you a question, you have to be candid. it is both the right thing...
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since then, todd blanche has taken a backseat. i wonder if part of that is because he wants to reduce the visibility that he has in front of the judge and continually losing things in front of the judge in front of trump because trump and todd have this close relationship. if you see them in the southern district of florida, in the documents case, they are always laughing and joking and passing notes between each other. that was reduced as the week went on. >> we have the second contempt hearing for the additional four new violations of the gag order by donald trump coming up on thursday morning now and 9:30 but we've yet to get a ruling for the original contempt motions for the 10 violations. trump continues to violate the gag order. what is your theory as to why judge juan merchan has not issued a ruling yet ? >> i think , katie, we just don't know. there are a couple of possible different reasons. one is that this is a judge who, when faced with a decision about whether to enforce his gag order or not, is going to blink. maybe
since then, todd blanche has taken a backseat. i wonder if part of that is because he wants to reduce the visibility that he has in front of the judge and continually losing things in front of the judge in front of trump because trump and todd have this close relationship. if you see them in the southern district of florida, in the documents case, they are always laughing and joking and passing notes between each other. that was reduced as the week went on. >> we have the second contempt...
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s attorneys, todd blanche and bully refilled his drink and gave each other and awkward look at the defense table. awkward indeed. unfortunately, the trial is not televised, so we don't have a video confirmation of the 77-year-old criminal defendant falling asleep in court. the trial will not be televised, and the revolutionized will not be televised, because they didn't show up. not only are trump voters no longer willing to violently revolt for donald trump, they will not even show up at his committal trials. there are actually 85,000 trump voters living, just on the island of manhattan, and none of them bothered to go down to the courthouse today. none of the trump supporters i spoke to, there, are from new york. other press accounts include pennsylvania's review include pennsylvania and driving distances of 90 minutes from the courthouse, there are several million trump voters who live on long island, connecticut and new york state in new jersey and pennsylvania who could easily have been at that courthouse today. millions of them. but they don't care that much about donald trump. will
s attorneys, todd blanche and bully refilled his drink and gave each other and awkward look at the defense table. awkward indeed. unfortunately, the trial is not televised, so we don't have a video confirmation of the 77-year-old criminal defendant falling asleep in court. the trial will not be televised, and the revolutionized will not be televised, because they didn't show up. not only are trump voters no longer willing to violently revolt for donald trump, they will not even show up at his...
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what he said to todd blanche. joining us now, lisa rubin. so, lisa, i call it an explosive day in court because pecker goes into great detail about the relationship he had with michael cohen and what he believed michael cohen was doing. and also not to mention the relationship he had with donald trump and direct conversations he had with trump about what they were doing in the 2016 campaign. >> i think david pecker is a far more important witness that many people appreciate. not only because he can speak as you just noted to the formation of the conspiracy that the d.a.'s office wants the jury to buy into, but because at multiple points in time, he talked to trump directly including with respect to whether it was worth it to buy karen mcdougle's story at a point in time that enquirer ceo and chief content officer, dylan howard, had already flown to california to interview mcdougle about her story. decided essentially that she was credible after which point trump calls pecker and said what do you think we should do. i also thought that it was
what he said to todd blanche. joining us now, lisa rubin. so, lisa, i call it an explosive day in court because pecker goes into great detail about the relationship he had with michael cohen and what he believed michael cohen was doing. and also not to mention the relationship he had with donald trump and direct conversations he had with trump about what they were doing in the 2016 campaign. >> i think david pecker is a far more important witness that many people appreciate. not only...
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the headline was judge merchan's frustration with todd blanche, questioning his credibility with the court because of his inability to articulate on behalf of donald trump the post that he says that trump was directly responding to, as to why he felt he could attack the likes of michael cohen as well as stormy daniels. but also when he reposted others' posts about individuals like the jurors or stormy daniels or michael cohen, whether donald trump was in fact standing by those statements or endorsing them or approving of them. and that is where the judge was very specific in his frustrations with todd blanche, and so we could very well learn by day's end whether donald trump has violated and whether there's a fine or whether judge merchan as the prosecution would like, whether he will warn donald trump if he were to violate the gag order in the future he could potentially be put in jail through these proceedings. >> protecting jurors is a top priority. the judge has made that clear. what is your take on mr. trump's comments last night about the jury on that radio show? >> well, if yo
the headline was judge merchan's frustration with todd blanche, questioning his credibility with the court because of his inability to articulate on behalf of donald trump the post that he says that trump was directly responding to, as to why he felt he could attack the likes of michael cohen as well as stormy daniels. but also when he reposted others' posts about individuals like the jurors or stormy daniels or michael cohen, whether donald trump was in fact standing by those statements or...
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and what's your reaction to his rebuke of todd blanche? >> well, one, not having credibility is another way of saying you're not telling the truth. and as a lawyer you never want to hear that from a judge particularly at the beginning of trial because that will stay in the judge's head, and that will be throughout the trial that the judge thinks you have no credibility. why he didn't issue the ruling i'm perplexed because this has been going on for over a week. this was a long date from last week. the judge put this on so you would expect the ruling was going to happen today. the only thing i can think is the judge has a written decision and that he was adding onto it after what happened at the hearing yesterday. but if it doesn't happen today, meaning the judge's ruling, i don't understand why. it's just giving donald trump more time to keep violating the order. >> all right. nbc news legal analyst catherine christian, i really do appreciate it. thank you so much for joining us this early in the morning. >>> before we go to break, preside
and what's your reaction to his rebuke of todd blanche? >> well, one, not having credibility is another way of saying you're not telling the truth. and as a lawyer you never want to hear that from a judge particularly at the beginning of trial because that will stay in the judge's head, and that will be throughout the trial that the judge thinks you have no credibility. why he didn't issue the ruling i'm perplexed because this has been going on for over a week. this was a long date from...
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this was the response from trump's lawyer, todd blanche. there was absolutely no willful violation of the gag order. does comments were in direct response to comments by these witnesses, not about the criminal proceedings, your honor. when judge merchan pressed mr. blanche on what attacks mr. trump was responding to blanche struggled to answer. which led the judge to say i have asked you eight or nine times to show me the exact posts that trump was responding to, and you have been able to do that even once. blanche's response, president trump is being very careful to comply with your honor's rules. >> you, mr. blanche, you are losing all credibility. i have to tell you that right now. joining me now, former u.s. attorney with the manhattan das office, duncan, and northern district of alabama district attorney, thank you both for being here, and joyce, one of the invocations of losing the confidence of the judge in like, 48 hours? >> so, yeah, i mean it's never a good thing, right alex? i think we are all trying to find ways to express the f
this was the response from trump's lawyer, todd blanche. there was absolutely no willful violation of the gag order. does comments were in direct response to comments by these witnesses, not about the criminal proceedings, your honor. when judge merchan pressed mr. blanche on what attacks mr. trump was responding to blanche struggled to answer. which led the judge to say i have asked you eight or nine times to show me the exact posts that trump was responding to, and you have been able to do...
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let's watch. >> one of the things that hampers todd blanche is trump's unwillingness to acknowledge he had the two affairs and if he would acknowledge it would make it much easier for him to try the case and challenge the witnesses and it's a very heavy lift if karen mcdougal and stormy daniels testify to suggest that these events never happens. i don't think that you -- a jury will believe it. >> i believe what his intervening which is it won't happen and it's pretty interesting but i do not think trump will testify which means there's hardly anything to his defense so everything they will have to do will be on cross- examination of the different witnesses and you take mcdougal and daniels, to go after them and accuse them of lying. jurors recoil from that kind of treatment and think about other witnesses, hope hicks comes to mind, no reason to lie, very credible and has some killer things to say and it will be very hard to cross-examine and the things he would like to say he would need to say through his own testimony but i don't think we will see that so i think it will actually be
let's watch. >> one of the things that hampers todd blanche is trump's unwillingness to acknowledge he had the two affairs and if he would acknowledge it would make it much easier for him to try the case and challenge the witnesses and it's a very heavy lift if karen mcdougal and stormy daniels testify to suggest that these events never happens. i don't think that you -- a jury will believe it. >> i believe what his intervening which is it won't happen and it's pretty interesting...
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one argument that todd blanche didn't make which i've heard that new york team discussed in previous days was the idea about how voters weren't apprised of any information before the 2016 election because they would have been privy to the trump organization's work. it was all and opening statement for an audience of one, which was trump. >> you've been following every step of this, what was your take away? >> very similar to hugo, i think the trump opening statement fell really flat, there were three arguments that the opening statement made, it wasn't trump's ideas, it was michael cohen's idea to do all of this, and i'm sorry, michael cohen took out a home equity loan of thousands upon thousands of dollars on his own in order to pay off stormy daniels? no lawyer does that, zero, the idea that he would have done it on his own out of the goodness of his own heart or something, thoroughly implausible. second, you put on the screen before, todd blanche, trump's lawyers statement saying there's nothing wrong with influencing an election, it's called democracy, that is illegally bogus dep
one argument that todd blanche didn't make which i've heard that new york team discussed in previous days was the idea about how voters weren't apprised of any information before the 2016 election because they would have been privy to the trump organization's work. it was all and opening statement for an audience of one, which was trump. >> you've been following every step of this, what was your take away? >> very similar to hugo, i think the trump opening statement fell really...
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it does seem that todd blanche was kind of hamstrung by trying to please donald trump. all of the sort of weirdness of calling him president trump when he's not the president, and just insisting on using that terminology and saying he did nothing wrong. all of it just seems to be for trump's benefit. how well do you think that's working out for them in the trial? >> so far, not very. i think it's only going to get worse. look, we talked about roy kaine. trump we often compare to a mob boss. even when a mob boss is under indictment and goes to see roy cohn, he says shut up and listen to me. i know what needs to happen. we're going to go there and say maybe you haven't lived an exemplary life, but this charge and that charge, they can't do that with trump. and what it means is they're going to have to say he never had an affair with mcdougal. he never slept with stormy. and all in all, for the jury, i mean, it's one thing for him to deflect and deny, but there are 12 people there who are judging his credibility. and can everyone be lying here? imagine the cross-examinatio
it does seem that todd blanche was kind of hamstrung by trying to please donald trump. all of the sort of weirdness of calling him president trump when he's not the president, and just insisting on using that terminology and saying he did nothing wrong. all of it just seems to be for trump's benefit. how well do you think that's working out for them in the trial? >> so far, not very. i think it's only going to get worse. look, we talked about roy kaine. trump we often compare to a mob...
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because the defense attorney todd blanche did have a strategy for this. it's important the take a look at what they're doing. he told the jury that, okay, if there are these papers in evidence, they still don't automatically implicate trump, because he had, quote, nothing to do with any of those 34 pieces of paper, except that he signed on to the checks in the white house while he was running the country. that's not a crime, he argued. so that is a denial that anything criminal happened. now, these type of denials that i'm telling you are not the only options. the next defense they have, you've certainly heard about, and i want to be clear. you can also think of this as a factual defense, because they argue if anything bad did happen, then michael cohen did it. not defendant trump. if anything happened, cohen did it. now here is how that defense works as a counterattack, because they said, quote, unbeknownst to trump, in all the years that cohen worked for him, cohen was also a criminal. now notice that is a little different than just saying nothing happe
because the defense attorney todd blanche did have a strategy for this. it's important the take a look at what they're doing. he told the jury that, okay, if there are these papers in evidence, they still don't automatically implicate trump, because he had, quote, nothing to do with any of those 34 pieces of paper, except that he signed on to the checks in the white house while he was running the country. that's not a crime, he argued. so that is a denial that anything criminal happened. now,...
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andrew rice, he just profiled todd blanche in a cover story. good to have you both here. topline impressions from today? >> my topline impression is that he had a whole lot to say. he was asked how often he communicated with trump and said after trump became a candidate, conversations increased. he would expect a candidate would get so busy that they would not have time and yet they still found time to meet once a month and talked on the phone once a week and sometimes more. we heard about those conversations today, bookending the testimony. that august, 2015 meeting that you talked about and the phone call during 2016 about karen mcdougal having been vetted and what trump wanted to know about the conversation. i to assume there are a lot more conversations and the prosecution is going to elicit testimony about them in the ensuing days. >> i thought the most relevant thing to watch was the ongoing dichotomy going on inside the courtroom and outside the courtroom. i think it came into relief really at the beginning of the day when there was a hearing about whether donald t
andrew rice, he just profiled todd blanche in a cover story. good to have you both here. topline impressions from today? >> my topline impression is that he had a whole lot to say. he was asked how often he communicated with trump and said after trump became a candidate, conversations increased. he would expect a candidate would get so busy that they would not have time and yet they still found time to meet once a month and talked on the phone once a week and sometimes more. we heard...
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i know todd blanche very well. he's a very fine lawyer. that's the kind of advice i'm sure he's giving the former president. >> he's somebody for a lot of folks seemed unlikely, a registered democrat, somebody who had a job at a prestigious manhattan law firm. he's a partner at a law firm. >> right. people don't realize at what price that comes. he had to leave that firm to go out on his own. and on the one hand you can say this is sort of the representation of a lifetime. on the other end, the legal community and given the dynamics in the constituentity of new york and the realities of things, people don't understand the price you pay. >> what is the price you pay? >> the price you pay is everybody is entitled to a legal defense, including the former president of the united states. when the legal community tries to suggest a representation like this is out of bounds, it has consequences to your reputation. >> how big of a gamble is it that donald trump will let him do his job? because different from when you were involved, different than
i know todd blanche very well. he's a very fine lawyer. that's the kind of advice i'm sure he's giving the former president. >> he's somebody for a lot of folks seemed unlikely, a registered democrat, somebody who had a job at a prestigious manhattan law firm. he's a partner at a law firm. >> right. people don't realize at what price that comes. he had to leave that firm to go out on his own. and on the one hand you can say this is sort of the representation of a lifetime. on the...
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long time national enquirer publisher david and one of trump's attorneys todd blanche. there was a fiery hearing over trump's partial gag order. judge merchan told blanche to his face he was losing all correct. and here is my colleague with all the details. >> reporter: tonight, mr. trump's long time friend david the former publisher of the national enquirer offering the jury a rare glimpse into the underworld of tabloid tactics as they seek to show he covered his business records to pay off stormy daniels with hush money. says he agreed to serve as the eyes and ears for rumors that could hurt mr. trump adding what i would do is pub accomplish positive stories about trump and negative stories about his opponents. there was a series of glowing headlines about then president trump a. admitting today the enquirer made up a story linking cruz's father to the man who assassinated jfk and a completely untrue story about mr. trump fathering a child with his housekeeper so the doorman couldn't take the story elsewhere. the day began with the judge taking the defense team to tas
long time national enquirer publisher david and one of trump's attorneys todd blanche. there was a fiery hearing over trump's partial gag order. judge merchan told blanche to his face he was losing all correct. and here is my colleague with all the details. >> reporter: tonight, mr. trump's long time friend david the former publisher of the national enquirer offering the jury a rare glimpse into the underworld of tabloid tactics as they seek to show he covered his business records to pay...
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he said yesterday at the gag hearing, you'll recall he wanted todd blanche to recase law to him that said republication was not a violation of gag order, he did not. i suspect we'll see something from judge merchan tomorrow or friday in writing that he'll read from the bench and then make available for the public to see. in the meantime the d.a.'s office has told us they're going to file a third to show cause with respect to additional statements. and just yesterday while we were at the trial donald trump i guess before the trial must have done an interview with a news outlet in which he said the same things to michael cohen that have gotten him in this pickle in the first place. the escalation is happening even before the verdict or ruling comes out on these existing violations. >> yus, poking the bear quite literally. well, hopefully the guardrails will narrow tomorrow when the trial begins again with dave pecker on the stand. lisa rubin, brian stelter, no two better people to talk about this with. >>> still ahead tonight i'll talk with congresswoman ilhan omar about the massive pr
he said yesterday at the gag hearing, you'll recall he wanted todd blanche to recase law to him that said republication was not a violation of gag order, he did not. i suspect we'll see something from judge merchan tomorrow or friday in writing that he'll read from the bench and then make available for the public to see. in the meantime the d.a.'s office has told us they're going to file a third to show cause with respect to additional statements. and just yesterday while we were at the trial...
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i highly doubt he'll do it, but you heardgh a lot of speech fro todd blanche in the opening statement. i don't know how they're going to prove thelic of knowledge on mr. gtrump's behalf, but one w you could do it is to not testify. >> in the list of potential witnesses there are some high level trump organization officials who areh prepared toy testify who presumably would further corroborate the idea that donald trump knew what he wasob doing.ea iha mean they have -- is there witness that you've seen from the list of people brought to the stand that could be helpful to ldtrump's case at this point? >> helpful, not necessarily. if you have a witness saying donald trumpwi was meticulous looking over his checks and signing his checks and he wasn't a passive player here, that's not helpful to you. josh steinglass, and chris, it's not their first rodeo. they know what they're doing. i'm over confident donald trump is in trouble. it's not their verdict, it's the prosecution's verdict. it's not an easy thing. that is why how important david pecker is to give credibility in validating what t
i highly doubt he'll do it, but you heardgh a lot of speech fro todd blanche in the opening statement. i don't know how they're going to prove thelic of knowledge on mr. gtrump's behalf, but one w you could do it is to not testify. >> in the list of potential witnesses there are some high level trump organization officials who areh prepared toy testify who presumably would further corroborate the idea that donald trump knew what he wasob doing.ea iha mean they have -- is there witness...
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i highly doubt he will do it but i do think you heard a lot of speak from todd blanch in the opening statement which is called lawyer talk. i don't know how we are going to prove the lack of knowledge on mr. trump's behalf. one way he could do it would be to testify. >> you have the list of potential witnesses. there are high level trump organization officials who are prepared to testify who presumably would further corroborate the idea that donald trump knew what he was doing. is there a witness that you have seen from the list of people called to the stand that could be helpful to trump's case at this point? >> helpful? not necessarily. if you have witnesses putting michael cohen in the oval office with you, that is not helpful. if you have a witness saying that donald trump was meticulous looks over his checks signing his checks and not a passive player here, that is not helpful to you. so there is nobody that the prosecution is lining up that will be helpful. i think josh steinglass and chris conway, it's not their first rodeo. they know what they are doing. i'm confident donald
i highly doubt he will do it but i do think you heard a lot of speak from todd blanch in the opening statement which is called lawyer talk. i don't know how we are going to prove the lack of knowledge on mr. trump's behalf. one way he could do it would be to testify. >> you have the list of potential witnesses. there are high level trump organization officials who are prepared to testify who presumably would further corroborate the idea that donald trump knew what he was doing. is there a...
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in his defense of the ex-president trump's attorney todd blanche had a testy exchange from the judge. said you are losing all credible with the court which goes without saying not a good thing to be losing this early in a criminal trial. we're still waiting for the judge's decision on the gag cord order. it could come out at any time today. that's where we start with our favorite reporter as friends. former top official, legal analyst andrew weissmann is back and legal analyst charles coleman is here and back again after being inside of the courthouse today, "new york times" reporter susan craig. and my friend and colleague, nbc news correspondent vaughn hillyard who has been at the courthouse all day. i could see the stars from here. this is really important stuff. so just start telling me what happened. >> well, i mean, it was a day. i just sort of feel like this is a play we've been waiting for and the curtain went up and it was in the detail that david pecker just calmly laid out. he was such a credible witness. just to go through the story with the doorman and how they went back
in his defense of the ex-president trump's attorney todd blanche had a testy exchange from the judge. said you are losing all credible with the court which goes without saying not a good thing to be losing this early in a criminal trial. we're still waiting for the judge's decision on the gag cord order. it could come out at any time today. that's where we start with our favorite reporter as friends. former top official, legal analyst andrew weissmann is back and legal analyst charles coleman...
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in this case and todd blanche, the guy that profiled in the story got up and said that our client has a right to talk about the two systems of justice that are being shown here in this courtroom. and i think there's something that we will see a lot, which is basically donald trump is not, if he can win on acquittal or win on a mistrial that is great for him but he is running against the system. >> okay, i follow up on that because blanche also insisted, we are going to talk about this in a second in greater detail but he says he is doing his best or something or like trying our best and that is when rochon says you are losing credibility point come on, buddy. what is blanches angle here? not primarily legal, it is primarily about the sort of making this broader case in the court of public opinion. is blanche on board with that strategy? >> well, i think that blanche is ultimately trying to, made it very clear, they're hoping to find a juror, one juror, really, who will hold out and will vote to convict donald trump and they're hoping for a mistrial and if there is a mistrial, course d
in this case and todd blanche, the guy that profiled in the story got up and said that our client has a right to talk about the two systems of justice that are being shown here in this courtroom. and i think there's something that we will see a lot, which is basically donald trump is not, if he can win on acquittal or win on a mistrial that is great for him but he is running against the system. >> okay, i follow up on that because blanche also insisted, we are going to talk about this in...
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one thing that stands out to me is todd blanche had a really rough day yesterday arguing against violations of the gag order and, in particular, there was a moment where he was forced to concede that one of trump's posts was, in fact, a lie. it was when trump said, look what was just found, and he was referring to stormy daniels' statement in january of 2018. the court said to mr. blanche, is it true that this was just found? no, your honor, everybody knows that this wasn't just found. that's of course not true. if you're in a position six into the trial where you have to undermine the voracity of your client's statements in order to rescue them from criminal contempt, that's not a good place to be. the other thing that really stood out to me is david pecker because he has the sort of demeanor that he is believable, he's credible, he's affable, he even compliments donald trump are frequently, and yet you have to remove yourself from the proceedings a little bit to see, oh, my gosh, a lot of what he confessed to is totally bonkers. you got a crash course in tabloid or checkbook journalism ye
one thing that stands out to me is todd blanche had a really rough day yesterday arguing against violations of the gag order and, in particular, there was a moment where he was forced to concede that one of trump's posts was, in fact, a lie. it was when trump said, look what was just found, and he was referring to stormy daniels' statement in january of 2018. the court said to mr. blanche, is it true that this was just found? no, your honor, everybody knows that this wasn't just found. that's...
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i wanted to go in reverse, and ask you about todd blanches opening statement. he made some pretty bold statements in the hearing, he basically denied trumps alleged affair with daniels. that's not part of the necessary legal argument, but does that matter? could it come back to bite him? >> when you are on trial, prosecution or defense, you need to be extremely careful about what you promise a jury. what happens is both sides listen very carefully to that, and it will come back, if you have promised something that did not come to play, you are going to hear that. the statement that denying the tryst with stormy daniels, i'm not exactly sure how that will come into evidence. stormy daniels is clearly going to say it happens, donald trump, who everyone thinks is not going to testify, i'm sure the prosecution would love it if he did, for the same reason he never met with us in the mueller investigation, i think there's no way in god's green earth he's going to testify, i don't know how that's going to come into play. that's the kind of thing where it may be that t
i wanted to go in reverse, and ask you about todd blanches opening statement. he made some pretty bold statements in the hearing, he basically denied trumps alleged affair with daniels. that's not part of the necessary legal argument, but does that matter? could it come back to bite him? >> when you are on trial, prosecution or defense, you need to be extremely careful about what you promise a jury. what happens is both sides listen very carefully to that, and it will come back, if you...
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in a minute or so it's going to change over, todd blanche, the former president's attorneys in which they're going to get their shot at these potential jurors and it moves on to the period where they decide who will get struck from this jury. if they have causal reason to strike them or they want to strike them. they only have four chances either side to do that left. >> so yasmin, stay with us. also keep an eye on that google doc with the latest reporting so we can be on top of it all. charles, today we are moving backwards. we started the day with seven people who had been seated in this jury. now we're down to five. what does that tell you? >> it tells me this is going to be as arduous and difficult a process as many of us expected to. many of us thought the sheer nature of what it is to be fair and impartial would make it an easy thing to do. it has its numbers of hurdles and challenges. when you're talking about a case of this nature, there are some extra complications and you're starting to see that. the pressure in this case is not going to go down. it's only going to go up. f
in a minute or so it's going to change over, todd blanche, the former president's attorneys in which they're going to get their shot at these potential jurors and it moves on to the period where they decide who will get struck from this jury. if they have causal reason to strike them or they want to strike them. they only have four chances either side to do that left. >> so yasmin, stay with us. also keep an eye on that google doc with the latest reporting so we can be on top of it all....
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todd blanche tried to push that in the pretrial hearings. that failed. judge said their opinions are immaterial. during this process, his lawyers have the chance to try to elicit that information. elicit they did. this one actually made the cut. >> so each side at this point has used more than half of their preemptory challenges. challenges they can offer without saying why. that juror coming in and saying i'm fascinated with donald trump . there is more than one way to read that but it had to make the prosecution a little nervous listening to that. >> i am struck by the fact that both sides have used six out of their 10 challenges so they only have orders left. there are two ways juries can be chosen typically. this is the one that is, gives the least amount of information to both sides. it's euphemistically called the flop method. the others call it the strike max said -- method. the >>> method is better because you see all 38 potential jurors at once. you will see everybody who could be on the jury and then you exercise your 10 peremptory's on the oth
todd blanche tried to push that in the pretrial hearings. that failed. judge said their opinions are immaterial. during this process, his lawyers have the chance to try to elicit that information. elicit they did. this one actually made the cut. >> so each side at this point has used more than half of their preemptory challenges. challenges they can offer without saying why. that juror coming in and saying i'm fascinated with donald trump . there is more than one way to read that but it...
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there's reporting he's unhappy with todd blanche, his attorney. he seems very fidgety and not confident. he's a good prosecutor at the time, but he wants more aggression out of todd blanche. he's not happy with the lack of aggression. >> well, you can't win as a lawyer for trump. particularly when you're losing. particularly when trump recognizes that this isn't going his way. whether it was this lawyer or any other lawyer, this is a really tough case to litigate. to really difficult argument to make. you have a client who is almost impossible to keep in his seat. so i think, you know, assessing his performance is kind of irrelevant. i think the issue is that trump is going to beat up on anybody who is falling short of making him look innocent in a situation in which he is guilty as hell. >> let me play a little bit, there was something interesting that happened today. they played some c-span archives. let me play a bit of what they showed in court today. >> it's a phony deal. i have no idea who these women are. i have no idea. i have no idea. and
there's reporting he's unhappy with todd blanche, his attorney. he seems very fidgety and not confident. he's a good prosecutor at the time, but he wants more aggression out of todd blanche. he's not happy with the lack of aggression. >> well, you can't win as a lawyer for trump. particularly when you're losing. particularly when trump recognizes that this isn't going his way. whether it was this lawyer or any other lawyer, this is a really tough case to litigate. to really difficult...
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. >> let me ask you, too, about the relationship as you viewed it, between todd blanche, his key lawyer, and donald trump, himself, because there was a large story in "the new york times" today about how trump is getting frustrated, we have seen this before, right. in the past with donald trump, he wants his lawyers to do what he's going to do there, this push and pull. how do you appease your client, but also do what you think is going to get your client acquitted? did you see anything telling between the two of them? >> well, they were conversing almost like normal today, as i would describe it. this is, as you know, a defendant who -- >> did we lose his mic internally or do we have a problem here? >> i can hear you, can you hear me? all right, i'm going to keep going. i heard chris ask about the microphone, i'm being told i can be heard. we can see defendant trump who is much more active than most defendants in the legal setting, speaking, having side bars. at one point i could see his lawyer blanche kind of covering his mouth, so that the internal cameras that are used inside the co
. >> let me ask you, too, about the relationship as you viewed it, between todd blanche, his key lawyer, and donald trump, himself, because there was a large story in "the new york times" today about how trump is getting frustrated, we have seen this before, right. in the past with donald trump, he wants his lawyers to do what he's going to do there, this push and pull. how do you appease your client, but also do what you think is going to get your client acquitted? did you see...
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todd blanche and donald trump passed notes and whispered while it was happening. they introduced it today for the reasons that charlie's just describing. i was talking about in the last hour, i remember talking to a source who was in the room when trump found out about "access hollywood." and in the room they thought it was over. they thought that pence could maybe take -- i mean that pence would assume the spot at the top of the ticket. and now we are all numb to the idea that anything could damage trump because we've seen his base's sort of velcro relationship with him. but that wasn't known at the time. and there was a real belief, he had had his -- he'd talked about megyn kelly having blood coming out of her eyes and everywhere, "access hollywood" tape came out after that, he'd been incredibly misogynistic toward hillary clinton in all the debates, and then "access hollywood" tape breaks. the hush money scheme, the crimes happen after that. talk about the timeline as an important -- important enough to mention in opening statements. >> well, i've said many tim
todd blanche and donald trump passed notes and whispered while it was happening. they introduced it today for the reasons that charlie's just describing. i was talking about in the last hour, i remember talking to a source who was in the room when trump found out about "access hollywood." and in the room they thought it was over. they thought that pence could maybe take -- i mean that pence would assume the spot at the top of the ticket. and now we are all numb to the idea that...
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this is from todd blanch's mouth to the jury. there is nothing wrong trying to influence an election. it's called democracy. that is not how the world works, todd blanch, that's maybe the argument they're going to use because time and time again, telling the american public over and over again, there is nothing to see here. he had impeachments one and two. this is just how it works. maybe they could get away with it. and you are held to a different standard. i was flabbergasted that this is the best they could come up with when faced with a lot of material from the prosecution. >> i also think what's happening here too is you're seeing that what is also not normal is somebody like ami and david becker, having to get immunity. because it's okay to do all of this in journalism. why would you need immunity from prosecution. >> yeah. >> why would he go to prison, right? if donald trump shouldn't be prosecuted. and so that just kind of shows how donald trump has turned normal or abnormal into normal and how he's normalized. >> on the
this is from todd blanch's mouth to the jury. there is nothing wrong trying to influence an election. it's called democracy. that is not how the world works, todd blanch, that's maybe the argument they're going to use because time and time again, telling the american public over and over again, there is nothing to see here. he had impeachments one and two. this is just how it works. maybe they could get away with it. and you are held to a different standard. i was flabbergasted that this is the...
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the judge was just very frustrated, at points growing angry over what todd blanche's presentation. at one point the judge is asking for precedent, bring me a legal argument for what you're saying, and todd blanche is saying there is no precedent. it's just common sense. and i think what donald trump was learning for his whole life words have had very little value to him, but in court, there's consequences for this. and i think we can see anything from a fine potentially to, you know, i'm not sure it's going to go to go to incarceration, that's an option. but i think there's some other things open to the judge. for example, there could be somebody put in place to vet his tweets, somebody maybe on his legal team or somebody else. i think there could be other things the judge is going to consider. one thing i felt certain about sitting in the courtroom is something is going to happen to clamp down on this. >> catherine, you have been around for for a while in courts. ever seen anything like this? ever heard of anything like this? >> no, i've seen defendants misbehave because, you know
the judge was just very frustrated, at points growing angry over what todd blanche's presentation. at one point the judge is asking for precedent, bring me a legal argument for what you're saying, and todd blanche is saying there is no precedent. it's just common sense. and i think what donald trump was learning for his whole life words have had very little value to him, but in court, there's consequences for this. and i think we can see anything from a fine potentially to, you know, i'm not...
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in particular what todd blanche ran into his he could not say what does client wanted him to say. the defense did not charge the case so he was last having to say things like, it's president trump. he has earned his title. we should refer to him as president trump. >> who cares? it's a criminal trial and the argument he's making is how to refer to trump? what we call him by name? that was his big moment? >> he let up with it. everyone in the courthouse looked around and thought, is a really going with this argument? eventually segued into saying trump was ignorant of this and could not be held accountable because it was michael cohen's doing and he never signed off the chest dashed checks. the one argument he did not make was this idea of how voters were not deprived of any information before the 2016 election because they would not have been privy to the trump organization's records in the first place. that never came up. >> you have been following every step of this since day one. what was your take away? >> similar to hugo. i think the trump opening statement fell really flat.
in particular what todd blanche ran into his he could not say what does client wanted him to say. the defense did not charge the case so he was last having to say things like, it's president trump. he has earned his title. we should refer to him as president trump. >> who cares? it's a criminal trial and the argument he's making is how to refer to trump? what we call him by name? that was his big moment? >> he let up with it. everyone in the courthouse looked around and thought, is...
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there was a point, reportedly, at which he seemed to kind of lose it at his attorney, todd blanche, over -- maybe blanche wasn't fighting hard enough on some point of procedure or producing some documents, and trump seemed to really get cross with him right after lunch. you've got to wonder how long he's going to be contained in that defendant's chair. >> yeah. >> and whether he actually blows at some point and gets himself into deeper trouble with judge merchan. >> it's an exhausting process. we have chuck rosenberg and lisa rubin standing by to talk about where this is all headed, but there's a lot of other news to cover this morning. >>> including a potentially significant development on capitol hill. house speaker mike johnson unveiled a republican-led foreign aid package yesterday according to three sources familiar with the process. the legislation would include three aid measures with tens of billions of dollars for ukraine, israel, taiwan, and allies in the indo-pacific. a fourth measure would include national security priorities, such as seizing russian assets in the u.s., a loa
there was a point, reportedly, at which he seemed to kind of lose it at his attorney, todd blanche, over -- maybe blanche wasn't fighting hard enough on some point of procedure or producing some documents, and trump seemed to really get cross with him right after lunch. you've got to wonder how long he's going to be contained in that defendant's chair. >> yeah. >> and whether he actually blows at some point and gets himself into deeper trouble with judge merchan. >> it's an...
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blanch, trump's lawyer, suggested toru the judge showed those jurors should be struck for cause. that's very important to trump's team. they don't want to have to waste those special preemptory strikes trump has. that's why it's so important the judge drew that line today saying i'm not t going to let y go through social media endlessly. it has to be actual bias against your client. >> at the same time, you have social media stars on the right with their callsta for people w support donald trump to actively get themselves on the jury. how much is it a concern for the court? >> it's a concern for a lot of cases on both sides. a jury might take into its own hands whether somebody should be convicted of a chyme not based on whether the crime is convicted but whether it should be legal in the first place. there's been a lot of history over the last 100 years of juries that have nullified. i think the real risk is trump is going to wind up with a jury pool he doesn't like you're going to wind up with democrats, educated people. >> if you're his team how are you trying to correct for t
blanch, trump's lawyer, suggested toru the judge showed those jurors should be struck for cause. that's very important to trump's team. they don't want to have to waste those special preemptory strikes trump has. that's why it's so important the judge drew that line today saying i'm not t going to let y go through social media endlessly. it has to be actual bias against your client. >> at the same time, you have social media stars on the right with their callsta for people w support...