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john lewis, you throw on there, it was chuck jones at one point. you had a steelworker guy, gm, i mean, most of them have been democrats, some republicans, lots of members of the media, present company included. at what point is this a problem for him? >> i think everyone needs to get used to this. this is the new abnormal, and trump is going to -- he finds this effective and emotionally gratifying for him with communication and his supporters love it when he lambastes his critics especially when he takes conventions and pieties of our politics when you don't hit back hard like statements of john lewis and i see it through working through stages of grief. all of this russia stuff, at least a lot of it was litigated during the election. hillary clinton lost anyway, and my guess is democrats when they actually get traction against donald trump it is a normal opposition opposing a normal republican who wants to cut taxes for the rich. >> you are downplaying the russian angle a little bit? >> i think everything we learned since the election could from
john lewis, you throw on there, it was chuck jones at one point. you had a steelworker guy, gm, i mean, most of them have been democrats, some republicans, lots of members of the media, present company included. at what point is this a problem for him? >> i think everyone needs to get used to this. this is the new abnormal, and trump is going to -- he finds this effective and emotionally gratifying for him with communication and his supporters love it when he lambastes his critics...
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john lewis is one of them. and it is not correct to say that donald trump was not insulting to him in his tweets. what about the all talk, no action, sad? this was an attack on his life, what he stands for, what he did for this country. and marching across that bridge, that is exactly -- >> he didn't attack -- >> he did. that was exactly what he did. >> insulting to his life and legacy. it's a further demonstration. you talk about, this is the week to do it. we have been saying that for weeks. for months. for a year-and-a-half. that when will the person who seeks to now and will be president act like a grownup and serious person, not always take the bait, show some restraint, show some dignity. there is no bottom to the depth that he will go to argue with anyone, and cause disdain. he -- donald trump was wrong. john lewis is an icon. he can say whatever he wants. and in the context of his comments about legitimacy, i would almost liken to -- you know in track and field there is something called wind assist. joh
john lewis is one of them. and it is not correct to say that donald trump was not insulting to him in his tweets. what about the all talk, no action, sad? this was an attack on his life, what he stands for, what he did for this country. and marching across that bridge, that is exactly -- >> he didn't attack -- >> he did. that was exactly what he did. >> insulting to his life and legacy. it's a further demonstration. you talk about, this is the week to do it. we have been...
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>> john lewis is an icon for this service to his country. what he did in the civil rights movement allowed in people like myself to be able to vote and be able to vote in historic numbers for donald trump. donald trump received a historic amount of african-american support, 13% from african-american men like myself and john lewis. that would not have been possible without the sacrifices john lewis has given to this country. so with much respect we give john lewis for his time and service to this country and continues to aggressive. >> did donald trump cross a line with what he said about john lewis? >> i think that donald trump was talking about crime in atlanta. i'm from atlanta. i understand the challenges there. that's fair game to talk about the state of affairs anywhere in this country. it wasn't personal to john lewis. let's look at the facts, look at atlanta. atlanta is a great city. i think they've done great job of increasing police. but there are still challenges there. there's no one who will tell you there's still not challenges
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this fight against john lewis and donald trump was john lewis inappropriate to question the legitimacy and the response from trump? what is your take? >> look, congressman lewis' opinion. he's basing it on the fact as we all know from the intelligence community that there was russian interference in the american election so we can have a fight over whether that is true or not, but it's the president-elect's response that is what's outrageous here. at what point will president-elect trump actually act presidential? that's the moment for someone who is supposed to be the leader of the free world, incoming leader of the free world, to show some grace, and he didn't, and as you pointed out earlier in an earlier interview, to go after congressman lewis' district and not actually know what his district is, one, and specific, and then more generally, talking to an african-american member of congress about the way african-americans live, in such a generalized way, so many months after the election, so many months after the campaign, when everyone under the sun tried to get through to him that
this fight against john lewis and donald trump was john lewis inappropriate to question the legitimacy and the response from trump? what is your take? >> look, congressman lewis' opinion. he's basing it on the fact as we all know from the intelligence community that there was russian interference in the american election so we can have a fight over whether that is true or not, but it's the president-elect's response that is what's outrageous here. at what point will president-elect trump...
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john lewis is not all talk and no action. >> no, absolutely i would say john lewis has demonstrated that he is action. as i said, things get said on both sides in the heat of of emotion. people are literally probably dying. we need to talk about how do we feed people, how do we clothe people, how do we create the best education system? that's what we need to focus on. >> what do you think your father's message would be to president-elect trump? >> this is the final answer because i'm i'm going the reiterate what i just said. i think my father would be concerned about the fact there are 50 or 60 million people living in poverty and somehow we've got to create climate for all votes to be lifted. in america work a $20 trillion economy, it's insanity that we have poor people in this nation. that's unacceptable and when we work together, we know we can roll up our sleeves, there is nothing that we as americans can't do. thank you very much. >> martin luther king iii speaking out about this latest controversy surrounding representative john lewis, the civil rights leader the civil rights icon
john lewis is not all talk and no action. >> no, absolutely i would say john lewis has demonstrated that he is action. as i said, things get said on both sides in the heat of of emotion. people are literally probably dying. we need to talk about how do we feed people, how do we clothe people, how do we create the best education system? that's what we need to focus on. >> what do you think your father's message would be to president-elect trump? >> this is the final answer...
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it is irresponsible for john lewis to have done this. and the other piece of this, chuck, is that barack obama should step up as well and call it what it is. it's wrong what is happening. it's wrong how some of these democrats are treating president-elect trump. we have a great relationship with the white house. i talk to den mismcdnis mcdonna day. the transfer of power within the white house is going great. but to do this to president-elect trump five days before he puts his hands on the bible is just wrong. by the way, the democrats are fund-raising on this comment from congressman lewis right now. so they're making money on it. >> let me ask you this because one of the things that congressn lewis says that he ll never forget and possibly never forgive is when donald trump said that vladimir putin was a stronger leader than president obama. and there will be people that respond to your comments right now and say donald trump spent five years questioning the legacy of barack obama's constitutional viability to be president of the united
it is irresponsible for john lewis to have done this. and the other piece of this, chuck, is that barack obama should step up as well and call it what it is. it's wrong what is happening. it's wrong how some of these democrats are treating president-elect trump. we have a great relationship with the white house. i talk to den mismcdnis mcdonna day. the transfer of power within the white house is going great. but to do this to president-elect trump five days before he puts his hands on the bible...
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he also lashed out at john lewis tweeting, "congressman john lewis should spend more time on fixing and helping his district, which is in horrible shape and falling apart, not to mention crime-infested, rather than falsely complaining about the election results. all talk, talk, talk, no actions or results. sad." that would be this john lewis who helped lead the 1963 march on washington and had his skull fractured by state troopers after marching into selma, alabama, in 1965 and who described trump as an illegitimate president. >> i don't see the president-elect as a legitimate president. i think the russians participated in having this man get elected and they have destroyed the candidacy of hillary clinton. i don't plan to attend the inauguration. it would be the first one that i miss since i've been in the congress. you cannot be at home with something that you feel is wrong. >> lewis' decision not to attend friday's inauguration and trump's response has spurred many of lewis' colleagues to follow suit. there are as of now at least 31 democratic lawmakers who have announced plans to b
he also lashed out at john lewis tweeting, "congressman john lewis should spend more time on fixing and helping his district, which is in horrible shape and falling apart, not to mention crime-infested, rather than falsely complaining about the election results. all talk, talk, talk, no actions or results. sad." that would be this john lewis who helped lead the 1963 march on washington and had his skull fractured by state troopers after marching into selma, alabama, in 1965 and who...
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this is john lewis. >> well, we're in a tough place because john lewis is someone that, you know, clearly his track record, right, his actions during the civil rights movement are undisputable. he is a hero to many for what he has done. however, it's ironic to me that the lenl i want si of the presidency -- we talked during the debates about this. it was all thought that donald trump would be questioning the legitimacy, and you knew the outrage from the left when he said that. now the left is questioning the outcome of this election, and the american people are the losers in this. it's in our best interest that the president who hasn't even taken office yet is felt as if he is our president. whether you voted for him or not, we want him to succeed. i think that john lewis -- i think he took a misstep here. i really do. i think that it's in everybody's best interest that we get the ball rolling on january 20th and we try to work together at some level. i think he really just had a misstep. >> how could donald trump, the new president as of one week from now responded more to the point that
this is john lewis. >> well, we're in a tough place because john lewis is someone that, you know, clearly his track record, right, his actions during the civil rights movement are undisputable. he is a hero to many for what he has done. however, it's ironic to me that the lenl i want si of the presidency -- we talked during the debates about this. it was all thought that donald trump would be questioning the legitimacy, and you knew the outrage from the left when he said that. now the...
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i stand with john lewis. we're up to at least 30 members of congress who have now pledged overtly by name, not anonymously, that they have said they will not attend the inauguration on friday. this appears to be the first large-scale congressional boycott of an inauguration since 1973. even before the swearing in on friday, we are already seeing the first large-scale protests against the new president. there were protests in washington this weekend, the big civil rights protests that took place in the cold rain. a civil rights protest that took place in washington, d.c., and on sunday in more than three dozen cities around the country, there was some surprisingly large rallies against donald trump. specifically, in defense of the affordable care act. this was the scene yesterday in boston. you see everybody looks a little cold here, including senator elizabeth warren of massachusetts who you see speaking at the podium. they had planned to hold this boston rally inside a hall, the backdrop for these shots. so
i stand with john lewis. we're up to at least 30 members of congress who have now pledged overtly by name, not anonymously, that they have said they will not attend the inauguration on friday. this appears to be the first large-scale congressional boycott of an inauguration since 1973. even before the swearing in on friday, we are already seeing the first large-scale protests against the new president. there were protests in washington this weekend, the big civil rights protests that took place...
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and i disagree with what john lewis said. there is no question donald trump will be sworn in on friday and he will be the chief executive our federal government and the commander-in-chief. the media wouldn't have covered this because john lewis is a civil rights icon. think are thinking is this the black community and john lewis taking on donald trump. howie: when trump comes back on twitter and says all talk, no action, referring to the congressman from atlanta. he was attacked first, he was called not legitimate by a leading democratic congressman. is john lewis immune from criticism because of what he did 50 years ago? >> i don't think anyone should be immune from criticism. >> i think it left views him as a conduit in which to get their message across. also, it's also to note that john lewis is fundraising often do *'s comments and so is the dnc. >> this remind me of when meryl streep hijacked the golden globes. calling trump and his people on the carpet. madonna said she feels like she has been dumped by a lover and stuc
and i disagree with what john lewis said. there is no question donald trump will be sworn in on friday and he will be the chief executive our federal government and the commander-in-chief. the media wouldn't have covered this because john lewis is a civil rights icon. think are thinking is this the black community and john lewis taking on donald trump. howie: when trump comes back on twitter and says all talk, no action, referring to the congressman from atlanta. he was attacked first, he was...
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so again going back to john lewis, right? lewis's comments are a way of grounding us, are a way of anchoring us to say that yes, this is not normal. we are in a very different political time now, we are in a time where we are having an open conversation about not whether or not a foreign nation tampered with our elections but the extent to which they tampered with our elections. so, again, you know, lewis's comments -- 50 years ago people thought john lewis was crazy. 50 years later we saw that john lewis was basically trying to get the constitution enforced. right? he was trying to bring african-americans firmly into the mainstream of american life. this is a very similar dynamic. we are in a situation now where somebody needs to speak truth to power, make the statements and create the space so we can have legitimate actual dialogue and figure out how to move forward. >> you mentioned birther itch. that was a punch in the gut for so many americans. if you look at his zbra he is essentially listening if you didn't accept my p
so again going back to john lewis, right? lewis's comments are a way of grounding us, are a way of anchoring us to say that yes, this is not normal. we are in a very different political time now, we are in a time where we are having an open conversation about not whether or not a foreign nation tampered with our elections but the extent to which they tampered with our elections. so, again, you know, lewis's comments -- 50 years ago people thought john lewis was crazy. 50 years later we saw that...
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john lewis is a hero. a civil rights hero. they're right in saying, donald trump is a legitimate president. he won fair and square. he didn't win the election because of russian interference. they do have a responsibility to stand up for that. it's just the way they do it that is the wrong approach. >> he's someone who with less than a plurality of the vote. it doesn't make sense the way things unfolded. >> he has a plurality. not the majority. >> he has the plurality. >> excuse me. excuse me. take it back. >> with less than a plurality of the vote. he is the president. the electoral college said he's the president. he's the president. as a president, you also have to build. if i'm sitting there and part of his team and i go, look, we're probably not going to win the next election with 46% of the vote. so people like john lewis and the other groups, you have to start building bridges towards. this week was a disaster because he's burning bridges, not building them. >> and he has to think about the poll numbers. 44% approval on
john lewis is a hero. a civil rights hero. they're right in saying, donald trump is a legitimate president. he won fair and square. he didn't win the election because of russian interference. they do have a responsibility to stand up for that. it's just the way they do it that is the wrong approach. >> he's someone who with less than a plurality of the vote. it doesn't make sense the way things unfolded. >> he has a plurality. not the majority. >> he has the plurality....
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because john lewis said it. >> i don't think -- >> it helps john lewis. it does. >> really? >> i know people will be shocked. they are fund-raising off of it, right? it helps donald trump. people saying he is standing up and fighting political correctness. it helps the democrats and it helps the republicans. we are shocked, we are stunned! the press all weekend was shocked and stunned and deeply saddened about it. see, look. this reinforces everything we have ever said about donald trump. >> i think it's bad for us as it pertains to russia. >> i think it's bad for america and i wish donald trump could just let, if you were ever going to let something just go, this would have been a hell of a time to do it, harold ford. a hell of a time to do it. >> questioning the presidency. >> i conserved with john lewis as you did and i share the respect that manchin and others have for him and on a personal level, i think he said it wrong. i do they -- >> said what wrong? >> about the legitimacy of it. he would have to understand he was elected president. no questions about russians tamp
because john lewis said it. >> i don't think -- >> it helps john lewis. it does. >> really? >> i know people will be shocked. they are fund-raising off of it, right? it helps donald trump. people saying he is standing up and fighting political correctness. it helps the democrats and it helps the republicans. we are shocked, we are stunned! the press all weekend was shocked and stunned and deeply saddened about it. see, look. this reinforces everything we have ever said...
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congressman john lewis' district. if it's such a hell hole, if it's so horrible, why was donald trump willing to give his architecture -- >> you clever liberals. you're so clever. thank you, jonathan cape heart, ginger gibson and ken vogel. when we return, trump watch for this tuesday night, you're watching "hardball." en my doctor told me i have age-related macular degeneration, amd, he told me to look at this grid every day. and we came up with a plan to help reduce my risk of progression, including preservision areds 2. my doctor said preservision areds 2 has the exact nutrient formula the national eye institute recommends to help reduce the risk of progression of moderate to advanced amd after 15 years of clinical studies. preservision areds 2. because my eyes are everything. the markets change... at t. rowe price... our disciplined approach remains. global markets may be uncertain... but you can feel confident in our investment experience around the world. call us or your advisor... t. rowe price. invest with con
congressman john lewis' district. if it's such a hell hole, if it's so horrible, why was donald trump willing to give his architecture -- >> you clever liberals. you're so clever. thank you, jonathan cape heart, ginger gibson and ken vogel. when we return, trump watch for this tuesday night, you're watching "hardball." en my doctor told me i have age-related macular degeneration, amd, he told me to look at this grid every day. and we came up with a plan to help reduce my risk of...
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john lewis is a man of action. he had to do it against his own government to get voting rights and civil rights for that was wrong. that was the straw that broke the camel's back. >> bret: could it be he was not talking about his civil rights record and what he did in the past but what he's doing now to lift inner-city situations across america? and particularly in his district? i'm not reading between the lines here in the president-elect's tweets but they are only 140 characters or less. >> i know cnn has is in atlantd you have to go through atlanta to get anywhere in the south. there are a lot of good communities and areas. he took a slight at atlanta. you can't communicate through 140 or 142 characters. that's one of the problems the president has. if he wanted to communicate that, he should've sent a letter to john lewis, not tweeted and expressed his thoughts about inner cities. he expressed his thoughts in ways that were open to interpretation. when he does that concerning foreign policy, we are at risk. >>
john lewis is a man of action. he had to do it against his own government to get voting rights and civil rights for that was wrong. that was the straw that broke the camel's back. >> bret: could it be he was not talking about his civil rights record and what he did in the past but what he's doing now to lift inner-city situations across america? and particularly in his district? i'm not reading between the lines here in the president-elect's tweets but they are only 140 characters or...
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john lewis has more than earned the right to speak his mind, because while john lewis put his body on the line for the civil rights movement, donald trump was inheriting millions of dollars for doing absolutely nothing. and the idea that donald trump would insult a civil rights icon, an american freedom fighter, on the weekend of the martin luther king is just insulting and just wrong. it's not surprising because this is what donald trump does, because now we have a bully in chief who loves to dole out criticism but when anybody criticizes him he can't take it. >> i appreciate the defense of john lewis, but do you agree with him that he is an illegitimate president? >> i think that it is really hard to really accept donald trump. he's had this moment to bring the country together and what he's done is been divisive and pumed us apart. and you have this toxic brew that led to his election. you have the fake news, the russian hacking, and everything else with the comey letter that makes it hard for americans to really trust how this election process really went through. >> rebecca, let
john lewis has more than earned the right to speak his mind, because while john lewis put his body on the line for the civil rights movement, donald trump was inheriting millions of dollars for doing absolutely nothing. and the idea that donald trump would insult a civil rights icon, an american freedom fighter, on the weekend of the martin luther king is just insulting and just wrong. it's not surprising because this is what donald trump does, because now we have a bully in chief who loves to...
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. >> dickerson: congressman john lewis who you served with, democrat, said, told on "meet the press" that he did not conversation donald trump a legitimate president. your reaction to that? >> well, look, donald trump won this election fair and square. 30 out of 50 states, including georgia, more counties than any republican candidate since ronald reagan, and to hear john lewis, a man that i served with, that i respect, to question the legitimacy of the election and to say that donald trump will not be a legitimate president was deeply disappointing to me and also to hear that he was not going to today the inauguration this friday. i hope he reconsiders both statements. look, this is a time when we are facing real challenges at home and abroad, and i believe the inauguration ceremony itself and this moment in history would greatly benefit if we set aside these baseless assertions about the legitimacy of the election and we looked for ways to come together to work together and the president-elect actually in a tweet late last night invited congressman lewis to work with us to bring mo
. >> dickerson: congressman john lewis who you served with, democrat, said, told on "meet the press" that he did not conversation donald trump a legitimate president. your reaction to that? >> well, look, donald trump won this election fair and square. 30 out of 50 states, including georgia, more counties than any republican candidate since ronald reagan, and to hear john lewis, a man that i served with, that i respect, to question the legitimacy of the election and to say...
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john lewis is a genuine american hero. the beating he took at selma bridge was historic, his courage was part of what led to the end of segregation. but now he has a president who in charlotte, in october, donald trump as a candidate said he wanted to create a new deal for african-americans. back in september, he gave a speech in detroit, and john lewis his own area, there is far too much poverty. there is a rising crime rate. which even atlanta journals had to begin to report about. there's a whole problem of theic school system, there was a huge scandal of cheating on tests. many, many poor children are not getting the education they need. so, i am disappointed in john lewis, frank lam diff to pointed and reverend al sharpton. they have a moment here. >> sean: i really don't expect any less reverend al sharpton, i don't that he's going to be reasonable tomorrow. it's not happening. >> the people he's betraying are the very african-americans who need a new deal. the people that john lewis -- >> sean: that's a good point.
john lewis is a genuine american hero. the beating he took at selma bridge was historic, his courage was part of what led to the end of segregation. but now he has a president who in charlotte, in october, donald trump as a candidate said he wanted to create a new deal for african-americans. back in september, he gave a speech in detroit, and john lewis his own area, there is far too much poverty. there is a rising crime rate. which even atlanta journals had to begin to report about. there's a...
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>> he has gone after john lewis. he is a hero on this cause. nobody has more integrity on this issue and a lot of admirers in and outside the democratic party this really chills the atmosphere going forward for relations with president-elect trump and democrats in congress in particular. trump has a negative approval rating. things like this don't help. the president-elect getting into fighti fig fights, even if a comment was directed at him that he believes is unfair, it's highly unusual and probably not the sort of thing that most voters expect of their president. it remains to be seen how it will be going forward this is who he has always been. he gets into fights and squabbles and seems to enjoy it. >> robert, you are now the trump whisperer. what are you whisper'ing into his ear? >> oh, my goodness, what an interesting position to be in. look, here is what we know. when you push donald trump, he is going to push back even harder. he i very thin skinned. i will tell him you speak for all americans regardless of whether or not they voted for
>> he has gone after john lewis. he is a hero on this cause. nobody has more integrity on this issue and a lot of admirers in and outside the democratic party this really chills the atmosphere going forward for relations with president-elect trump and democrats in congress in particular. trump has a negative approval rating. things like this don't help. the president-elect getting into fighti fig fights, even if a comment was directed at him that he believes is unfair, it's highly unusual...
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john lewis is an icon. he is someone, as we all know, who has literally written chapters in our nation's history when it comes to civil rights and when it comes to justice and equal opportunity. so look, the reality is that both sides probably need to cool off here a little bit, and the reality is, is that donald trump won this election, so therefore, he is legitimate. now, we can disagree very strongly about how he got to the presidency in terms of all the things that he said from a policy standpoint, but also from a personality standpoint. and if i can go back for a second to what my friend on the other side of the aisle said about the onus not being on the democrats. the onus is on all americans here to come together. and the onus is on for all americans to stop this partisan rhetoric, on the republican side but also on the democratic side, to come together. the reality is, yes, politically, it is that republicans own washington, d.c., right now, but the last time i looked at the constitution, the congre
john lewis is an icon. he is someone, as we all know, who has literally written chapters in our nation's history when it comes to civil rights and when it comes to justice and equal opportunity. so look, the reality is that both sides probably need to cool off here a little bit, and the reality is, is that donald trump won this election, so therefore, he is legitimate. now, we can disagree very strongly about how he got to the presidency in terms of all the things that he said from a policy...
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john lewis deserves the accolades as a person of bravery. when donald trump tweets "all talk, no action," people who know civil rights history and black americans of a certain ag age, they are turned out, thinking what is he saying? you can't say that about this guy. this guy put himself on the line and took risks. this is not a man who is all talk and no action. no way. >> bret: that is the problem with tweeting. there is no nuance. i think he is tweeting all talk, no action about the problems in inner cities but not john lewis. >> bret: even if we said it's just about what's going on in john lewis' congressional district, he suggests it's a mess. that's not the case. you know atlanta. this is a congressman who has had some success. again and again, you say tweeting is inadequate. it's the fact that even today on king's birthday, people say to me, where is donald trump? is he doing something with a black group that would at least signify some intent toward healing? the answer was well, he had martin luther king iii come visit. didn't take a
john lewis deserves the accolades as a person of bravery. when donald trump tweets "all talk, no action," people who know civil rights history and black americans of a certain ag age, they are turned out, thinking what is he saying? you can't say that about this guy. this guy put himself on the line and took risks. this is not a man who is all talk and no action. no way. >> bret: that is the problem with tweeting. there is no nuance. i think he is tweeting all talk, no action...
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when he said that was john lewis. >> mr. clinton, i don't see how any decent american can support a man like barry goldwater, with a man rallying people around hatred, people like the ku klux klan. >> barry goldwater was the '64 republican nominee for president. he lost to johnson but was strongly supported in that campaign by nixon and reagan, both of whom would go on to win their own presidential campaigns. martin luther king junior would most likely have seen the same faults in donald trump that he saw in barry goldwater and would have likely objected to trump's policy and his giving aid and comfort to the racists, which donald trump had energetically been doing for five years before he became the republican nominee by advancing an endless stream of lies about president obama's birth. >> three weeks ago i thought he was born in this country. right now i have doubts. i have had been studying it and they cannot believe what they are finding. >> you have people in hawaii. >> absolutely. an they cannot believe what they are f
when he said that was john lewis. >> mr. clinton, i don't see how any decent american can support a man like barry goldwater, with a man rallying people around hatred, people like the ku klux klan. >> barry goldwater was the '64 republican nominee for president. he lost to johnson but was strongly supported in that campaign by nixon and reagan, both of whom would go on to win their own presidential campaigns. martin luther king junior would most likely have seen the same faults in...
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john lewis is not all talk and no action. >> no. absolutely i would say john lewis has demonstrated that he's action. as i said, thing get said on both sides in the heat of emotion. and at some point this nation, we've got to move forward. we can't stay on. i mean people are literally probably dying. we need to talk about how do we feed people, clothe people, how do we create the best education system. that's what we need to be focused on. >> that last voice you heard asking the question, that is mr. jim acosta now outside of trump tower. jim we'll talk about what dr. king's son said said in a moment. can you give us a context for the meeting? who called whom? what was discussed. >> that is a good question. we don't have all the details in terms of who called who. >> okay. >> but we do know this follows some plans for donald trump to go down to washington today. he was set to go down to washington today according to his counsellor, incoming coun l counsellor kellyanne conway. then that was scrapped and then we learned that martin lu
john lewis is not all talk and no action. >> no. absolutely i would say john lewis has demonstrated that he's action. as i said, thing get said on both sides in the heat of emotion. and at some point this nation, we've got to move forward. we can't stay on. i mean people are literally probably dying. we need to talk about how do we feed people, clothe people, how do we create the best education system. that's what we need to be focused on. >> that last voice you heard asking the...
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bernie goldberg will cover john lewis as a correspondent. now, some problems with his behavior, that should be interesting. and watters roaming on washington today. >> why is everybody hating on donald trump? >> donald trump hasn't really giving us a reason to i like hi. and until he does, i am not going to support him. >> bill: noticed the red to start guys little lapel. i hope you stay tuned for those reports. i got it. hashtag "mouthbreather." yep. we've got a mouthbreather. well, just put on a breathe right strip and ... pow! it instantly opens your nose up to 38% more than cold medicine alone. so you can breathe ... and sleep. shut your mouth and say goodnight mouthbreathers. breathe right. from my sweet dreams? thanks to tena, not tonight! only tena overnight underwear ...with its secure barrier system gives you.... ...triple protection from leaks, odor and moisture. tena lets you be you bp gives its offshore teams 24/7 support from onshore experts, so we have extra sets of eyes on our wells every day. because safety is never being sat
bernie goldberg will cover john lewis as a correspondent. now, some problems with his behavior, that should be interesting. and watters roaming on washington today. >> why is everybody hating on donald trump? >> donald trump hasn't really giving us a reason to i like hi. and until he does, i am not going to support him. >> bill: noticed the red to start guys little lapel. i hope you stay tuned for those reports. i got it. hashtag "mouthbreather." yep. we've got a...
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he doesn't even need -- he didn't even need to continue this rift with john lewis. he could have just let it go and said exactly what kirsten said, what mike pence said. that's what he could have done but he didn't. he likes all the conflict. so is this going to go, continue into the administration? it seems like this is going to be the new normal, just basing on what we've seen in the weeks since the election ended and, you know, in a couple of days when the presidency actually begins. >> whether it's john lewis or "saturday night live," right, which was another tact target of his criticism this weekend. >>> let's talk about a conflict that really matters. the comments about nato. donald trump saying nato is obsolete. the conflict here is within his own administration. last week we listened to confirmation hearings for the national security picks. mattis, tillerson and others saying, no, no, nato is very important. russia is a big threat. forget what adversaries think for a moment, talk about what u.s. allies think and the confusing signals. what is u.s. policy? >>
he doesn't even need -- he didn't even need to continue this rift with john lewis. he could have just let it go and said exactly what kirsten said, what mike pence said. that's what he could have done but he didn't. he likes all the conflict. so is this going to go, continue into the administration? it seems like this is going to be the new normal, just basing on what we've seen in the weeks since the election ended and, you know, in a couple of days when the presidency actually begins....
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that's not john lewis at all? >> no. he's like a great role model for all of us. even when making a point, as sharp as that point is today with chuck todd, he still does it with grace, with some regret and it's clearly not a question of legitimacy but donald trump's standing as the leader of a moral country and that is yet to be proven. >> david corn, just got word from your bodyguards, they are readfor you to leave the building now. >> thank you, lawrence. what are you doing? getting your quarter back. fountains don't earn interest, david. you know i work at ally. i was being romantic. you know what i find romantic? a robust annual percentage yield that's what i find romantic. this is literally throwing your money away. i think it's over there. that way? yeah, a little further up. what year was that quarter? what year is that one? '98 that's the one. you got it! nothing stops us from doing right by our customers. ally. do it right. let's get out of that water. so we know how to cover almost almoanything.hing, even a rodent ride-along. [dad] alright, buddy, don't
that's not john lewis at all? >> no. he's like a great role model for all of us. even when making a point, as sharp as that point is today with chuck todd, he still does it with grace, with some regret and it's clearly not a question of legitimacy but donald trump's standing as the leader of a moral country and that is yet to be proven. >> david corn, just got word from your bodyguards, they are readfor you to leave the building now. >> thank you, lawrence. what are you doing?...
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can't republicans point to john lewis and say that's what john lewis is doing? >> sure. i think a lot of republicans will see this as a comment that crossed the line although they'll be careful about taking on john lewis personally because of the status he enjoys sort of historically in american politics. i think paul mentioned briefly george w. bush. when you talk to folks who were involved in george w. bush's first term, coming into office with more people having voted for somebody else, they talk about how politically perilous that was and how important it was to do these kind of ostentatious and in many cases substantive displays of bipartisan, working with ted kennedy and no child left behind in that first year, it was important for him to convince americans not that he was a legitimate president because people by and large accepted that but that he was able to represent everybody, right. when you look at the polling for trump, it is why what lewis is saying is dangerous for trump as well, that he comes in on weaker footing than any president he's had in modern time
can't republicans point to john lewis and say that's what john lewis is doing? >> sure. i think a lot of republicans will see this as a comment that crossed the line although they'll be careful about taking on john lewis personally because of the status he enjoys sort of historically in american politics. i think paul mentioned briefly george w. bush. when you talk to folks who were involved in george w. bush's first term, coming into office with more people having voted for somebody...
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bernie goldberg will cover john lewis as a correspondent. now, some problems with his behavior, that should be interesting. and watters roaming around washington today. >> why is everybody hating on donald trump? >> donald trump hasn't really given us a reason to like him. you know, and until he does, i am not going to support him. >> bill: notice the red star on that guy's little lapel there, huh? i hope you stay tuned for those reports. mercedes-benz, you can drive as far as you want for up to three years and be covered. so no matter where you go, your peace of mind and confidence will be as unlimited... as your mileage. visit the certified pre-owned sales event, now through february 28th. and learn more about our unlimited mileage warranty, only at your authorized dealer. mercedes-benz. the best or nothing. tawell, the only place youn, need go...oll? london's got the best of everything. cornwall's got the best of everything. sport sport nightlife nightlife (both) fashion adventure i'm tellin' ya, britain is the only place you really need
bernie goldberg will cover john lewis as a correspondent. now, some problems with his behavior, that should be interesting. and watters roaming around washington today. >> why is everybody hating on donald trump? >> donald trump hasn't really given us a reason to like him. you know, and until he does, i am not going to support him. >> bill: notice the red star on that guy's little lapel there, huh? i hope you stay tuned for those reports. mercedes-benz, you can drive as far as...
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so, i have great, great respect for john lewis. i think it was a tremendous mistake by the president-elect to confront john lewis. on the other side, this is a personal decision by myself. i waited until a wednesday press conference to make my decision. i just don't feel right about being in attendance with the president-elect. i had hoped he would grow into the office, but his constant attack on american decency, irrespective of whether you're republican or democrat, i think, is a real problem for this country and it was a problem for me. >> and, nina, congressman barbara lee was on with my college hallie jackson. she asked her multiple times if she believed donald trump was a legitimate president. she ducked three times. take a listen and we'll react on the other side. >> jerry nadler this morning agreeing with john lewis that donald trump is not a legitimate president. is he? >> let me first say to you that we have to realize and recognize what this means when a foreign power interferes in our elections. >> so, do you agree with
so, i have great, great respect for john lewis. i think it was a tremendous mistake by the president-elect to confront john lewis. on the other side, this is a personal decision by myself. i waited until a wednesday press conference to make my decision. i just don't feel right about being in attendance with the president-elect. i had hoped he would grow into the office, but his constant attack on american decency, irrespective of whether you're republican or democrat, i think, is a real problem...
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lewis because once john lewis says they are flawed or illegitimate, the elections were illegitimate or this is an illegitimate president, people have to pause and think about this because congress lewis is a moral leader, a civil and human rights icon and he did not make that decision lightly. i think the facts need to be laid out. we have a bipartisan commission, legislation led to really set up a commission to investigate this so when you look at what has taken place i have to say john lewis is right on target in terms of how this president-elect was elected and the interference and what took place as a result of these elections. even the fbi in terms of their bias and how they conducted these investigations, what was made public, what was not made public. people can decide for themselves but there are so many problems with what took place until once again congressman john lewis needs to be applauded. >> were you in that briefing today, congresswoman? >> yes, i was. >> did you share the -- it was sort of a fascinating scene afterwards. democrat after democrat coming out saying in
lewis because once john lewis says they are flawed or illegitimate, the elections were illegitimate or this is an illegitimate president, people have to pause and think about this because congress lewis is a moral leader, a civil and human rights icon and he did not make that decision lightly. i think the facts need to be laid out. we have a bipartisan commission, legislation led to really set up a commission to investigate this so when you look at what has taken place i have to say john lewis...
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congressman john lewis and nearly 50 house democrats say they will not attend. lewis had said it would be the first inauguration he's missed in 30 years. his office corrected that today, but mr. trump tweeted that the congressman's statement is: "wrong, or lie! he boycotted bush 43 also, because he thought it would be hypocritical to attend." trump followed up later, on "fox news": >> i think he just grandstanded, john lewis, and then he got caught in a very bad lie. let's see what happens. as far as other people not going, that's okay, because we need seats so badly. i hope they'll give me their
congressman john lewis and nearly 50 house democrats say they will not attend. lewis had said it would be the first inauguration he's missed in 30 years. his office corrected that today, but mr. trump tweeted that the congressman's statement is: "wrong, or lie! he boycotted bush 43 also, because he thought it would be hypocritical to attend." trump followed up later, on "fox news": >> i think he just grandstanded, john lewis, and then he got caught in a very bad lie....
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>> it will have an affect because john lewis is john lewis. he's an eye conic figure. he's a civil rights hero. he is the leader in many ways of the black caucus in washington and congress. so for him to make that comment is quite significant. and it really harkens back to the fact that so many african-americans and democrats frankly across the country were so frustrated with donald trump's attempt to delegitimize barack obama by suggesting that he hasndn't been born in the united states. so that it seems to smack of that anger. clearly there are very big questions about the russian hacking of hillary clinton's campaign e-mails and the dnc. not too many people have gone up to the point of saying that is tee legitimized trump's win. most democrats will say look, he seems to have won fair and square, although there was clearly interference. for john lieu toys take that next step and say that he's not a legitimate president could mean that other african-american members of congress follow in his way. and then we have a very racially polarized environment coming in for thi
>> it will have an affect because john lewis is john lewis. he's an eye conic figure. he's a civil rights hero. he is the leader in many ways of the black caucus in washington and congress. so for him to make that comment is quite significant. and it really harkens back to the fact that so many african-americans and democrats frankly across the country were so frustrated with donald trump's attempt to delegitimize barack obama by suggesting that he hasndn't been born in the united states....
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we start with stunning words from longtime congressman john lewis of georgia. nbc's chuck todd asking the civil rights icon about trump's presidency. listen to what was said here. >> i don't see this president-elect as a legitimate president. i think the russians have participated in helping this man get elected. and they helped destroyed the candidacy of hillary clinton. i don't plan to attend the inauguration. it will be the first one that i miss since i've been in congress. you cannot be at home with something that you feel is wrong. >>> the president-elect fired back against lewis' comments about his legitimacy on twitter today. and the democratic party of georgia also weighing in. kelly o'donnell is outside trump tower for us. get us up to date about the back and forth here. >> reporter: well, this has been a very volatile back and forth because john lewis is revered in the democratic party, he's got a persona that goes beyond politics because of his contributions to civil rights. he's also a sitting member of congress for 30 years. and to say that a presi
we start with stunning words from longtime congressman john lewis of georgia. nbc's chuck todd asking the civil rights icon about trump's presidency. listen to what was said here. >> i don't see this president-elect as a legitimate president. i think the russians have participated in helping this man get elected. and they helped destroyed the candidacy of hillary clinton. i don't plan to attend the inauguration. it will be the first one that i miss since i've been in congress. you cannot...
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john lewis isn't 100% wrong and he isn't 100% right. john lewis isn't either. a great deal of being president-elect obama could say i apologize for delegitimatizing presidency of barack obama for all those years. you apologize for delegitimizing my presidency but come to my inauguration and let's all get along but that's not going to happen. >> coming up, john mccain will join us. also reporting from hallie jackson. "new york times" reporter. friday live in washington to cover the presidential inauguration. our coverage kicks off 6:00 a.m. blocks from capitol hill. among our many guests on set will be minority leader nancy pelosi and senator rand paul. here now the forecast. >> you might wan to pack the little umbrella. not saying the big umbrella but little one. i'll explain in a second. let me first get to what happened over the weekend and holidays big ice storm across the country. kansas hit hard, oklahoma hit hard and areas around iowa. doesn't look bd but thin coating of ice makes a world of difference. no traction whatsoever. that storm through the ohio
john lewis isn't 100% wrong and he isn't 100% right. john lewis isn't either. a great deal of being president-elect obama could say i apologize for delegitimatizing presidency of barack obama for all those years. you apologize for delegitimizing my presidency but come to my inauguration and let's all get along but that's not going to happen. >> coming up, john mccain will join us. also reporting from hallie jackson. "new york times" reporter. friday live in washington to cover...
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>> i actually did but not because of john lewis although i think john lewis -- >> jeff? >> i have to ask you, i'm being humorous but it's a serious matter. i wonder when i listen to you and there are four democrats in pennsylvania, my home state that are doing the same as you, i have to ask, are you all on donald trump's payroll? this is a guy who was elected president in part because he campaigned against washington elites. i can only tell you the political effect of what you're doing is to reinforce that impression and help him. did you think of that? >> i didn't think of that and i hope that's not true. i think part of what you have to do is be authentic. >> that's the problem. they think you are being authentic. >> i am being authentic. really to john's question, it's not so much about policy. he's a republican. he'll have different policies than i do. it's more character and the character that i don't like or want to celebrate. >> how do you represent your constituent who is voted for him? didn't get 100% in your district and so is constituents who voted for him, do
>> i actually did but not because of john lewis although i think john lewis -- >> jeff? >> i have to ask you, i'm being humorous but it's a serious matter. i wonder when i listen to you and there are four democrats in pennsylvania, my home state that are doing the same as you, i have to ask, are you all on donald trump's payroll? this is a guy who was elected president in part because he campaigned against washington elites. i can only tell you the political effect of what...
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now john lewis has the capacity for forgiveness that no human mortal i've ever met has. if he feels that way he's standing up for whatis head took in terms of physical blows and the dog bites -- >> literally. and the dog bites he suffered. i will hope that he does. >> i'll give you the last word. >> it shocks me that donald trump goes out of his way to criticize john lewis, an american civil rights icon, yet he won't criticize vladimir putin. it's baffling. >> he can't help himself. >> a story we are going to follow over the next six months, the entirety of donald trump's presidency. what is his allegiance to russia? >> we'll have to leave it there. a great conversation as always. shall we do it again soon? >> i hope so. >> thank you. take a look at this. this is a word cloud associated with president-elect donald trump. we're going to tell you what it's all about coming up in our next hour. and we are monitoring a rally, thousands are attending in washington, d.c., as we speak. the message participants want the president-elect to hear in just a few minutes. beyond is a
now john lewis has the capacity for forgiveness that no human mortal i've ever met has. if he feels that way he's standing up for whatis head took in terms of physical blows and the dog bites -- >> literally. and the dog bites he suffered. i will hope that he does. >> i'll give you the last word. >> it shocks me that donald trump goes out of his way to criticize john lewis, an american civil rights icon, yet he won't criticize vladimir putin. it's baffling. >> he can't...
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john lewis is live at the trump tower for us. hi, john. >> shep, good afternoon. we've been tipped that when donald trump finished his meeting with martin luther king iii, he was going to come to the microphones and talk about m.l.k. day and what was going on. when the doors to the golden elevator opened and he face add barrage of questions about john lewis, he thought it wasn't the best idea and he shook hands with martin luther king iii and retreated upstairs. the photo op of him shaking hands was meant as a counter point ever since he went off on lewis on twitter saying he was all talk, no action. trump was responding to john lewis friday saying that trump was not the legitimately elected president because russia got him elected. martin luther king iii said, like my father said, can't we all just get along? listen. >> i would say john lewis has demonstrated actions. things get said on both sides in the heat of emotions. at some point, this nation, we have to move forward. >> earlier in the day, avlida king, martin luther king jr.'s niece, said on "fox and frien
john lewis is live at the trump tower for us. hi, john. >> shep, good afternoon. we've been tipped that when donald trump finished his meeting with martin luther king iii, he was going to come to the microphones and talk about m.l.k. day and what was going on. when the doors to the golden elevator opened and he face add barrage of questions about john lewis, he thought it wasn't the best idea and he shook hands with martin luther king iii and retreated upstairs. the photo op of him...
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john lewis, we also hueard from the civil rights icon. i didn't specifically hear him say don't vote to confirm senator sessions and also senator richmond and chairman of the black caucus who did oppose the nomination. dana, it's going to be presumably a relatively close vote although the republicans have the majority. >> the republicans do have the majority and first talking about the committee vote which should come first, there are rules that allow them to circumvent that if need be. it looks like he's probably going to be okay. they have only like the razorist thin majority there, but the fact that he, jeff sessions, has support from the broad spectrum of his own party from susan collins who introduced him yesterday to obviously his conservative brethren in the republican caucus it will probably be okay, i think the question is at this point how many democrats who know jeff sessions and have worked with jeff sessions an maybe more importantly sort of view the role of the president and the idea that the president can choose the person
john lewis, we also hueard from the civil rights icon. i didn't specifically hear him say don't vote to confirm senator sessions and also senator richmond and chairman of the black caucus who did oppose the nomination. dana, it's going to be presumably a relatively close vote although the republicans have the majority. >> the republicans do have the majority and first talking about the committee vote which should come first, there are rules that allow them to circumvent that if need be....
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he said, i don't mind if john lewis if they're not. i would like for them to be there but if you don't want to show up, it's fine. more seats for my family, my friends, my supporters. what he's doing is not hurting me because i really don't care basically is what he is saying. it hurts the country. >> sean: he addressed the whole issue with you about the attempts, i call them snowflakes, the attempts to delegitimize him as president. i will get into this with bob beckel in the next segment. you have a lot of congressmen and women not going to the inauguration now. no proof of russia affecting the election, all of this as an attempt to hurt him. >> he said he just responded to your tweets, you are insinuating that he might be a behind the leaks. brendan responded to that today in fact and he is not the leaker. someone is. i can only take them for his word, if he says he is not, someone is. someone leaked information to the press. >> sean: i guess the most important thing to me as a conservative is i like his agenda about originalists bu
he said, i don't mind if john lewis if they're not. i would like for them to be there but if you don't want to show up, it's fine. more seats for my family, my friends, my supporters. what he's doing is not hurting me because i really don't care basically is what he is saying. it hurts the country. >> sean: he addressed the whole issue with you about the attempts, i call them snowflakes, the attempts to delegitimize him as president. i will get into this with bob beckel in the next...
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>> >> john, i have not the utmost respect for congressman lewis. he is an icon, if you will, and we all have the most respect for him. i just think that was uncalled for. maybe -- i just wish that rhetoric would tone down. from both back and forth. the bottom line is, if we are concerned about the russians and we know russians want to be involved, putin wants to be involved in altering our process, then he will succeed if he sees this bickering going back and forth. that is that we have to stop. we are bigger than this. and we are going to show them they are not going to change and not going to alter how we work and function as congress, as a government, and the united states of america. we are not going to let that happen. so for this type of rhetoric it is nonproductive and i would like, that, i hope that would tone down and we would be better and move on. >> dickerson: senator manchin we will have to leave it there, thank you so much for being us with and we will be back in a moment with former -- newt gingrich. >> this portion of "face the nati
>> >> john, i have not the utmost respect for congressman lewis. he is an icon, if you will, and we all have the most respect for him. i just think that was uncalled for. maybe -- i just wish that rhetoric would tone down. from both back and forth. the bottom line is, if we are concerned about the russians and we know russians want to be involved, putin wants to be involved in altering our process, then he will succeed if he sees this bickering going back and forth. that is that we...