thank you very much for me to miller in the township there in john is book. thank you. well, i'll be sikes joins us from cape town. he is a former judge at south for a constitutional court, and it was an anti, a pontiac to this. so it is wonderful to have you with us. mr. sykes. the t is off to winning the fight against a party. how do you feel on such an important day to feel very, very intense emotions, ottoman but i was there when nelson monday and it was for me and it is a magnificent day at, at, and you know, speaking to you and um, to see or receive the funds writing down, i'm garza, m y, i feel so proud about achievement. seems to be impossible thing. so i've actually got the issue seen so many tractable the racial domination. people driven off the land. the hospital was disenfranchisement, adidas tortured intakes in prison. and so, and it seemed we couldn't never get a country and we caught a country and i say those choose out, does it or do is that that is fine, is no issue. looks intractable, but we had to find a way and we did find a way, and it wasn't ultima