was it chuck todd? is it jake tapper? i wasn't happy with his response to. but if it was a jaw dropping moment, i mean, i think he laughed, actually is an interesting reaction to it because. it was such a. yeah, because it was such new concept. the it alternative facts. i mean, people who create something for people to believe you know themselves as that. well, she was pushed was under some some pressure. you know, it's new for politics. it' not in the academy where it came from. i mean, that idea that there's no truth there's that comes from the academy that came from literary, from postmodernism and relativism. so i was already familiar with that. i just never seen it used in american politics. so the thing that i started to wonder, you know, at that moment when she's talking about alternative facts is, you know son of a gun. now the right wing has up postmodernism because there wasn't that long ago when -- cheney's wife was writing a book excoriating the relativists. you know, these were the worst people ever but now on the right. they figured out that th