even carry lake, who once embraced -- kari lake now says it can't, i don't support it, it can't take effect. >> as i said, the coverage of this is basically trying to drown out the entire pro-life side entirely. but if you look at a how the public feels, the morning consult poll in 2023 found that 67% of americans believe in at least a 15-week limit. finish so, i mean, this idea that americans are so insanely pro-choice, it's just not true. granted, you know, this is taking up all the air time -- howard: are you saying the press is jumping on arizona as a way of winning the broader argument? >> of course. of course, yes. i mean, this is -- [laughter] this gets a lot of drama, you know? this is a lot of drama for the press to capitalize on. but the reality is that 15 weeks is very popular among the gop, and that still allows 95% of abortions. howe ow leslie, i i just have half a minute, but the guy who who this was married five times, had relationships with girls as young as 12 so not exactly a moral beacon. >> yeah. [laughter] you know, the hypocrisy, i mean, come on. it's not just l