ambivalence, it manifests itself again, that we understand how scary it is, in mel’s mentioned film gibson, this is how clearly it is shown, what exactly happened, how this is ivan ilyevich glazunov, christ before pilate, this episode is depicted, but actually in our tradition, of course, there is no such naturalistic image, but we are somehow more, that is.. we just imagine some kind of physical torment, there is not only physical suffering, after all, this is a terrible tuskaman garden, because christ felt that he was dying for the sins of the whole world, for our sins, for mine there. yes, for all other people, and this is what it is, well, it’s hard for us to imagine, but this is of course suffering, so we talked about the secret of the evening, why christ is sad, well , after all, this is his closest disciple, judas... that is, christ worries about them, well, how can it be, they don’t see what is said in the scripture, all these predictions, now they come true, they crucify him, yes, that’s why these torments, they are by no means only physical, i think that there, of course, b