it's not just judgeships, john eastman, is a former clarence thomas law clerk, is that right? >> yes, he's currently being disbarred from california because of his participation in trying to overturn the election. one of the more extreme examples but a good one. the other one is john you who wrote the torture memos under john ingram. not all of these individuals go directly into the judiciary's, either way, they are preaching from the gospel that clarence thomas helped to write, and i'm sure that crystal clanton will be set along the same path when she graduates from this boot camp. >> this is clarence thomas's army. mark joseph stern, it's always great to talk to you. >>> that's our show for this evening, now it's time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell, good evening and welcome back, lawrence. >> mike manley is over there, right over there, and he's got the three presidents, and