so our third panelist this morning is stephen vladeck who is the charles allen wright chair in federal courts at the university of texas law school, a nationally that i know. that's okay. okay. texas longhorn. well, this is going to take long time. so he's nationally recognized expert on federal courts, constitutional law national security law and military justice and is currently hosting a podcast on national security law. but hidden from his public. and i talked to him this morning about, this is one of my favorite podcasts that he and his wife co-hosted in loco parentis, which only ran for two seasons during the pandemic about parenting and the law and parenting comes first and you can go and look at past or listen to past sessions of this podcast. i also i asked if steve would you know reprise this podcast because their repartee in the podcast is fabulous interviewing with different people about parenting and and being lawyers and whatnot. it's just fantastic. anyway, he lives in austin with his wife karen, and two daughters and their ten year old pug, who also has not bidden any s