and is it is not unusual, obviously, in the city as big as new york to have jury members and afford person who's from someplace else originally that's new york. >> it's a melting pot of people from all walks of life. and a lot depends on what the personality is. now you might have jurors inclined to go one way or the other, but now it's really about the influence that each side things are going to have in the deliberation. and what really struck me is not to minimize the contributions of other jurors, new yorkers are usually fully engaged. you have two lawyers that are already seen it, and that's a risky proposition. for both parties involved, could cut one way or the other. >> but some might think that this is a jury of two right now. >> now, i'm not saying these lawyers are going to just dominate, but jurors, the other jurors will look to these lawyers for guidance and if something comes in a fellow juror makes an argument about something extra legal, it's on as an evidence a lawyer might shut that down and get them to focus or lawyers like to argue. so if there's a 11 to one or ten to t