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blanche, you're losing all credibility with this court. the stakes are high, like we find to start, but could ultimately include jail time. prosecutors argue that trump's disobedience of the order is willful. it is intentional, he knows what he's not allowed to do, and he does it anyway. that's what chris conroy said. blanche says president trump does in fact know what the gag order allows him to do and not allow him to do and there was absolutely no willful violation of the gag order. back with us, vaughn hillyard, catherine christian and chuck rosenberg. so, catherine, how often, if at all, and, again, we're just reading it, we weren't in the courtroom, have you seen this kind of exchange, the judge, practically jumped off the page, he was frustrated. >> i've seen it. it doesn't happen a lot, but there are lawyers, usually on the defense side, who, you know, zealous advocates, they have to push the envelope. now, what you don't want as a lawyer, no matter which side you're on, is to have a judge say you're not credible. because then from
blanche, you're losing all credibility with this court. the stakes are high, like we find to start, but could ultimately include jail time. prosecutors argue that trump's disobedience of the order is willful. it is intentional, he knows what he's not allowed to do, and he does it anyway. that's what chris conroy said. blanche says president trump does in fact know what the gag order allows him to do and not allow him to do and there was absolutely no willful violation of the gag order. back...
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keep in mind blanche is someone trump is known to like but now faces a familiar problem. how do you handle a client like donald trump? kimberly, carol, and jeremy are back with me. jeremy, we saw some examples in opening statement, actually, of blanche appearing to nod to trump's desires. he mentioned trump had built this large, successful company, but that will only get you so far when it comes to donald trump. so as a lawyer, how do you find a balance and we talked about this earlier but i didn't get to ask the question. how do you find a balance between doing what your client wants, you work for him, and doing what you know is best for him. >> it's funny this is coming up. about a month ago, i had a trial. i was picking a jury. my client wanted a juror that i disagreed with. we went back and forth, not in the presence of the jury. i made a decision, said this is the right person. ultimately my client acquiesced. donald trump is not going to do that. i think unfortunately for mr. blanche, he's playing to the nar of donald trump and he has to put his client in the right
keep in mind blanche is someone trump is known to like but now faces a familiar problem. how do you handle a client like donald trump? kimberly, carol, and jeremy are back with me. jeremy, we saw some examples in opening statement, actually, of blanche appearing to nod to trump's desires. he mentioned trump had built this large, successful company, but that will only get you so far when it comes to donald trump. so as a lawyer, how do you find a balance and we talked about this earlier but i...
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it is the change between blanch and this potential juror. this potential juror says this is a different case than those other cases. i didn't follow them specifically. they are about different things. we have to take this case on its own merits. it's relatively simple. they go on. how do you feel about him, donald trump's attorney says. that's not important, this potential juror. what if you were sitting in a bar? then i would tell you. that's what this juror says. i'll say i'm a democrat. so there you go, picked up for the jury would be to judge the defendant on the basis of the facts. it didn't matter what my view is, but i honestly believe i can conpartmentalize. there's more. this was a pretty long conversation. my opinion of the president whether as a president, former president, candidate, has absolutely no bearing on this case. what i think about president trump outside of this room has nothing to do with what goes on. my view does not matter. if we were sitting in a bar, i'd be happy to tell you. personal opinion is personal opinion.
it is the change between blanch and this potential juror. this potential juror says this is a different case than those other cases. i didn't follow them specifically. they are about different things. we have to take this case on its own merits. it's relatively simple. they go on. how do you feel about him, donald trump's attorney says. that's not important, this potential juror. what if you were sitting in a bar? then i would tell you. that's what this juror says. i'll say i'm a democrat. so...
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throughout the day, we've referenced todd blanche. he's his lead attorney, doing most of the talking on behalf of the defense team. what is so key, what he did not respond to, the testimony that came from david pecker, his friend of several decades. he did not explicitly refute there any of the testimony that came from david pecker here today and of course, he would have the opportunity to do that. not only in a public setting but also in the courtroom if he chose to testify himself in his defense. donald trump here heard the words of david pecker testify, number one, that donald trump sat in a meeting in august 2015 with him at trump tower and told him he was pleased about this scheme to catch and kill stories, salacious story, and plant negative stories about rival candidates. we also had david pecker testify in front of donald trump today that trump picked up the phone to call him about the karen mcdougle story. karen mcdougle alleged a ten month affair with him. and what you get from david pecker's testimony in the middle of this
throughout the day, we've referenced todd blanche. he's his lead attorney, doing most of the talking on behalf of the defense team. what is so key, what he did not respond to, the testimony that came from david pecker, his friend of several decades. he did not explicitly refute there any of the testimony that came from david pecker here today and of course, he would have the opportunity to do that. not only in a public setting but also in the courtroom if he chose to testify himself in his...
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both joshua steinglass and todd blanche got half an hour with the 18 jurors. i think once we see what happens after the lunch break, how many people they strike, and what their -- what the threshold is among the trump folks and in particular for striking jurors, we'll have a better sense of how many days this is going to take. we have 18 people in the jury box. they could get a jury out of that. somehow i doubt that's where we're going to be left. my hope there will be between three and five people left over after this initial round of strikes. >> i don't know, three to five may be optimistic. i'm not there. give us a thumb nail of the pool today, some of the things you heard that were interesting and where you think we are right now. >> sure. and remember we came in yesterday and there was, you know, 96 and half of them just declared they didn't feel for whatever reason they could serve. maybe they couldn't be impartial. we were left with about 50 and more came in today, not a lot, but significant number, i would say three or four, and said they decided overn
both joshua steinglass and todd blanche got half an hour with the 18 jurors. i think once we see what happens after the lunch break, how many people they strike, and what their -- what the threshold is among the trump folks and in particular for striking jurors, we'll have a better sense of how many days this is going to take. we have 18 people in the jury box. they could get a jury out of that. somehow i doubt that's where we're going to be left. my hope there will be between three and five...
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we would see those interactions with his lawyers and blanche was doing the normal stuff today. they had stuff in front of the jury, they also had stuff without the jury talking about planning and scheduling. to the extent that we're kind of looking for tea leaves about the relationship, it didn't seem to me like an abnormal day for their interactions. >> let me go back to the jury, if i can, for a second, we're going to talk more about this going forward, which is sort of this story that you have to build as a prosecutor, right? and the fact that they brought in a couple of people that maybe they didn't need to, they could have just said the defense could have said, you know what, we're going to say it is okay, you don't need to bring the guy in from cspan, we're going to allow, accept this to come in. but is there any point at which you saw the jury lost attention, sometimes you start talking about things like documents and people who are on, who are not as exciting maybe as the other folks have been, do the jurors seem engaged and are they still taking notes? >> reporter: the
we would see those interactions with his lawyers and blanche was doing the normal stuff today. they had stuff in front of the jury, they also had stuff without the jury talking about planning and scheduling. to the extent that we're kind of looking for tea leaves about the relationship, it didn't seem to me like an abnormal day for their interactions. >> let me go back to the jury, if i can, for a second, we're going to talk more about this going forward, which is sort of this story that...
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, meaning, you know, todd blanche. his impatience increased as discussions continued but he definitely prefers bove to blanche. that's an observation. does that happen? you try to avoid it, maybe, but the fact is that the way they act, they way they present themselves, and their knowledge, what their arguments are can influence you? >> that's true. and i like the way you started this piece with judges are human. that's true. and it's also true that you get more bees with honey than vinegar and lawyers should take that to note. >> so restrategize, if you see that something you're doing is pushing the judge in the wrong direction, don't keep doing it over and over again. >> yes and no. there are some lawyers who don't follow that rule. they will bait you. they want to be the person who gets in your face and makes you crazy. they think they win that way. >> with the jury? >> i think sometimes they think that. i speak to jurors. i've had, you know, a myriad of cases, hundreds of jurors i have spoken to over the years, and
, meaning, you know, todd blanche. his impatience increased as discussions continued but he definitely prefers bove to blanche. that's an observation. does that happen? you try to avoid it, maybe, but the fact is that the way they act, they way they present themselves, and their knowledge, what their arguments are can influence you? >> that's true. and i like the way you started this piece with judges are human. that's true. and it's also true that you get more bees with honey than...
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blanche. well, the court, i don't think you can make that representation. how do you navigate a client like donald trump, paul? >> it's virtually impossible. you tell him that if he continues to talk on social media about witnesses like michael cohen and stormy daniels that not only is he liable for a thousand dollars an insult, he could actually go to jail. in new york the judge is allowed to sentence up to 30 days for each contempt of court finding. so maybe that will make a difference for trump. i doubt that it will, if we think about a thousand dollars, that might be chump change for trump. it might actually be worth it for him if he's able for just a thousand dollars to insult people like michael cohen and stormy daniels. so jail will be the real disincentive, and i wouldn't, if i were trump, i wouldn't play with judge merchan on that scoreboard. >> so before we go, paul, i want to play something for you because it gives us some insight from what is called the prosecution's star witness, michael cohen, who went live last night on the social media app,
blanche. well, the court, i don't think you can make that representation. how do you navigate a client like donald trump, paul? >> it's virtually impossible. you tell him that if he continues to talk on social media about witnesses like michael cohen and stormy daniels that not only is he liable for a thousand dollars an insult, he could actually go to jail. in new york the judge is allowed to sentence up to 30 days for each contempt of court finding. so maybe that will make a difference...
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blanche asked for a public disclosure who the next witness is, susan hoffinger said i discussed that with ms. necklace this morning. it remains to be seen who that witness is. chris, you know we'll bring it to you as soon as we can. >> just to punctuate your point because anybody who has watched a legal procedural, knows you want to end before you go to a break at lunch or at the end of the day with something, here's how we memorialized it in our blog. mr. steinglass, at the time you entered into the agreement, you had zero intention of publication, even if it would have helped the bottom line, you killed it because it would have hurt president trump. a one-word answer from david pecker. correct. lisa rubin, sue craig, kristy greenberg, we could not do this without you. paul butler, now you are sticking around for more analysis. >>> coming up, as most eyes are on the witnesses during their testimony, there are a select few people in the courtroom who zero in on the jurors, and for good reason. we're going to dive into the world of jury consultants and the role they're playing in trum
blanche asked for a public disclosure who the next witness is, susan hoffinger said i discussed that with ms. necklace this morning. it remains to be seen who that witness is. chris, you know we'll bring it to you as soon as we can. >> just to punctuate your point because anybody who has watched a legal procedural, knows you want to end before you go to a break at lunch or at the end of the day with something, here's how we memorialized it in our blog. mr. steinglass, at the time you...