emc, hp, oar kel, cisco, -- oracle, cisco, dell, ibm. they're in many different types of businesses but for you to be doing everything from storage to connection activity, my goodness you're competing with cisco. they're one of your customers. you look at the great partnerships you have and it actually makes sense but what will spur the i-t spending? is it, jim, so many of these companies put it off during a tough economic time and now, we can't anymore, we've got to be competitive, we've got to spend on this because then i get it? >> i think you're right. there are two factors here. one there has been pause in purchasing, all kinds overhangs with fiscal cliffs and all kinds of other things we've had it deal with. but the emerging markets continue to grow pretty substantially and most of the companies including emulex are in there. and, you know, the, this, i think there is going to be refresh year but think about the growth in data. it is exponential. and you know --. liz: huge. >> the cell phones, the ipads they don't have a lot of dat