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king was the conscience of the american people, john lewis is the conscience today. >> john lewis has earned the right to say whatever he wants to say, right? he's earned the right to be the crazy grandfather, the grandfather that provides some sort of knowledge, and teaching for younger folks. he has his right to say his opinion. i think it's insensitive of mr. trump not to be cognizant of everything that was going on at this moment. this was a great opportunity to build a bridge with mr. lewis and the civil rights generation, to have better conversations about race in america, and mr. trump failed to take advantage of that. >> and now there's paris, paris, what's your take? >> you set me up like that? >> i know you have a different take. >> i will first say i have worked with congressman lewis. when i was at the white house we honored him. he is a national treasure. senator mansion was correct when he said his statements were uncalled nor. >> donald trump is the legitimate president of the united states based upon the way we do our elections systems in this country. >> what makes me
king was the conscience of the american people, john lewis is the conscience today. >> john lewis has earned the right to say whatever he wants to say, right? he's earned the right to be the crazy grandfather, the grandfather that provides some sort of knowledge, and teaching for younger folks. he has his right to say his opinion. i think it's insensitive of mr. trump not to be cognizant of everything that was going on at this moment. this was a great opportunity to build a bridge with...
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he had a pretty succinct respond to the third tweet that the president-elect made on john lewis, simply, dude, just stop. let me ask you this, does the president-elect contemplate reaching out to congressman lewis privately before tweeting? >> here's the thing, i think that, chuck, it's shocking that congressman lewis who is a civil rights icon and is a person who has championed voting rights would actually question the legitimacy of an election in this country in starting this firestorm. i mean, the truth is donald trump won 30 of 50 counties. he won 128 out of the 159 counties in georgia. he flipped 200 counties that obama won and had the biggest electoral landslide on our side of the aisle since ronald reagan. i mean, i get you want to go back and forth on tweets, but the truth is it's irresponsible for john lewis, historic as he is, to have done this. and the other piece of this, chuck, is that barack obama should step up as well and call it what it is. it's wrong what is happening. it's wrong how some of these democrats are treating president-elect trump. we have a great relationsh
he had a pretty succinct respond to the third tweet that the president-elect made on john lewis, simply, dude, just stop. let me ask you this, does the president-elect contemplate reaching out to congressman lewis privately before tweeting? >> here's the thing, i think that, chuck, it's shocking that congressman lewis who is a civil rights icon and is a person who has championed voting rights would actually question the legitimacy of an election in this country in starting this firestorm....
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. >> dickerson: congressman john lewis who you served with, democrat, said, told on "meet the press" that he did not conversation donald trump a legitimate president. your reaction to that? >> well, look, donald trump won this election fair and square. 30 out of 50 states, including georgia, more counties than any republican candidate since ronald reagan, and to hear john lewis, a man that i served with, that i respect, to question the legitimacy of the election and to say that donald trump will not be a legitimate president was deeply disappointing to me and also to hear that he was not going to today the inauguration this friday. i hope he reconsiders both statements. look, this is a time when we are facing real challenges at home and abroad, and i believe the inauguration ceremony itself and this moment in history would greatly benefit if we set aside these baseless assertions about the legitimacy of the election and we looked for ways to come together to work together and the president-elect actually in a tweet late last night invited congressman lewis to work with us to bring mo
. >> dickerson: congressman john lewis who you served with, democrat, said, told on "meet the press" that he did not conversation donald trump a legitimate president. your reaction to that? >> well, look, donald trump won this election fair and square. 30 out of 50 states, including georgia, more counties than any republican candidate since ronald reagan, and to hear john lewis, a man that i served with, that i respect, to question the legitimacy of the election and to say...
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chris: john lewis, icons of the civil rights movement says he's not going to attend the inauguration and he has explained why. here he is. >> i don't see this president elect as a legitimate president. chris: what's your reaction to congressman lewis? >> donald trump won this election fair and square. 30 of 50 states, more counties than any republican candidate since ronald reagan and the american people know that and while i have great respect for john lewis and contributions particularly to the civil rights movement, i was deeply disappointed to see him -- someone of his stature question the legitimacy of donald trump's election as president and say he's not attending the inauguration and i hope he reconsiders both positions. we had recounts in this election where the numbers for the president elect have actually gone up. there's no question about the legitimacy of this election and for john lewis to make those statements is deeply disappointing, but this is also -- it's disappointing too because i truly do believe this is a time when the american people should be celebrating the p
chris: john lewis, icons of the civil rights movement says he's not going to attend the inauguration and he has explained why. here he is. >> i don't see this president elect as a legitimate president. chris: what's your reaction to congressman lewis? >> donald trump won this election fair and square. 30 of 50 states, more counties than any republican candidate since ronald reagan and the american people know that and while i have great respect for john lewis and contributions...
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i and we look up to john lewis and his historic contribution to civil rights. and voting rights. >> the president-elect said all talk and no action. >> well, let me answer. well, here's the problem. we need folks like john lewis and others who, i think, have been champions of voter rights, actually to recognize the fact that donald trump was duly elected. he's going to put his hand on the bible in five days. and i think it's incredibly disappointing. i think it's irresponsible for people like himself to question the legitimacy of the next united states president. i think putting the united states down across the world is not something that a responsible person does. so look, i think, in fact, i think president obama could step up. we have had a great relationship with the white house, george. we just had every cabinet person designee of ours meet with the cabinet members of the obama administration friday. i've met numerous times with dennis mcdonough. they've been nothing but helpful. i think the administration can do a lot of good by telling folks that are on
i and we look up to john lewis and his historic contribution to civil rights. and voting rights. >> the president-elect said all talk and no action. >> well, let me answer. well, here's the problem. we need folks like john lewis and others who, i think, have been champions of voter rights, actually to recognize the fact that donald trump was duly elected. he's going to put his hand on the bible in five days. and i think it's incredibly disappointing. i think it's irresponsible for...
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lewis. let's take a listen. >> john lewis is pouting. he lost, it's like a spoiled child and we've seen it with the others, they can't get over the fact they lost and what do spoiled little kids do, run around and throw a tantrum. >> now this is a member of the transition team, let's go to more morreale, former mayor of new orleans. always good to see you. good morning. >> good morning, good afternoon. >> this has gotten pretty nasty very fast. let me get your general reaction to this grog battle over congressman lewis saying he doesn't view donald trump as a legitimate president. >> all of this discussion we're missing the essence of the issue, the russians' involvement in the last campaign cycle. so the issue at hand, and what else certainly spurred congressman lewis' statements and he's a great american, is concerns that are legitimate, raised by the intelligence agencies, that somehow the russians and vladimir putin himself were involved in the last election. it matters not whether it affected the outcome. what matters is, was there
lewis. let's take a listen. >> john lewis is pouting. he lost, it's like a spoiled child and we've seen it with the others, they can't get over the fact they lost and what do spoiled little kids do, run around and throw a tantrum. >> now this is a member of the transition team, let's go to more morreale, former mayor of new orleans. always good to see you. good morning. >> good morning, good afternoon. >> this has gotten pretty nasty very fast. let me get your general...
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it is irresponsible for john lewis to have done this. and the other piece of this, chuck, is that barack obama should step up as well and call it what it is. it's wrong what is happening. it's wrong how some of these democrats are treating president-elect trump. we have a great relationship with the white house. i talk to den mismcdnis mcdonna day. the transfer of power within the white house is going great. but to do this to president-elect trump five days before he puts his hands on the bible is just wrong. by the way, the democrats are fund-raising on this comment from congressman lewis right now. so they're making money on it. >> let me ask you this because one of the things that congressn lewis says that he ll never forget and possibly never forgive is when donald trump said that vladimir putin was a stronger leader than president obama. and there will be people that respond to your comments right now and say donald trump spent five years questioning the legacy of barack obama's constitutional viability to be president of the united
it is irresponsible for john lewis to have done this. and the other piece of this, chuck, is that barack obama should step up as well and call it what it is. it's wrong what is happening. it's wrong how some of these democrats are treating president-elect trump. we have a great relationship with the white house. i talk to den mismcdnis mcdonna day. the transfer of power within the white house is going great. but to do this to president-elect trump five days before he puts his hands on the bible...
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sure, that is not mean everything john lewis says is correct. host: right. caller: the point he is making is he has reason to believe that the president elect will not represent the values that he holds as somebody that created and helped enforce these values in american history, that is still tangible today. in this sortght of, you can attack john lewis -- if he came out and said pump compiler was made of spiders, -- pumpkin pie is made of spiders, that would be what it was and people would discredit what he was talking about. but the fact is he is making a claim that is backed by intel from government intel, to an extent. i don't know, i think he knew what he was doing in making this protest and the word illegitimate is enough to get people talking about what we should do in the future. host: the numbers on that are over 50. maybe four dozen or five dozen in terms of members, house members, but i have not heard of any senators. thate hill, reporting elijah cummings, the top democrat on the oversight committee saying he will attend the inauguration because
sure, that is not mean everything john lewis says is correct. host: right. caller: the point he is making is he has reason to believe that the president elect will not represent the values that he holds as somebody that created and helped enforce these values in american history, that is still tangible today. in this sortght of, you can attack john lewis -- if he came out and said pump compiler was made of spiders, -- pumpkin pie is made of spiders, that would be what it was and people would...
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john lewis represents a majority black district. a district where 80% of the people are high school graduates and 41% also have college degrees, so trump has this troubling notion that somehow black people are only associated with pathology and that needs to be challenged as much as possible. he's trying to elevate black people like steve harvey and kanye west, but to deescalate people like john lewis and barack obama and he doesn't get to pick who our leaders are. >> i also want you to respond to this, what the president-elect just tweeted this afternoon, for years our country has been divided, angry and untrusting, many say it will never change, the hatred is too deep, it will change. he's saying we won't be as divisive a nation under his presidency. his response to the congressman john lewis was divisive, is there a hypocrisy here? >> you know, what all due respect to congressman john lewis who is a civil rights icon, someone who is highly respected on both sides of the aisle, i think he was wrong in calling donald trump's presid
john lewis represents a majority black district. a district where 80% of the people are high school graduates and 41% also have college degrees, so trump has this troubling notion that somehow black people are only associated with pathology and that needs to be challenged as much as possible. he's trying to elevate black people like steve harvey and kanye west, but to deescalate people like john lewis and barack obama and he doesn't get to pick who our leaders are. >> i also want you to...
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john lewis did not call him a legitimate president. but in doing so, he trashed john lewis's community, his congressional district, saying that it was crime-ridden and a mess, when it is not. the point i'm making is that he's not doing a lot for outreach to bridge the gap between him and those who did not vote for him. those who might be wary of him. the communities that will have to work with him when he takes office. intelligence community being one of those aspects of it. and the question is, if donald trump, when he becomes the president, how is he going to go forward? how is he going to be able to work with the people that he has been so critical of? and what exactly is the relationship with russia going to be? because that's still very unclear at this point. >> ken dilanian, you've written a piece getting a lot of circulation. we'll sum up, your title is nine things trump has said since the election that might make putin smile. three of them i highlighted. on nato, it's obsolete. on his relationship with putin, if putin likes don
john lewis did not call him a legitimate president. but in doing so, he trashed john lewis's community, his congressional district, saying that it was crime-ridden and a mess, when it is not. the point i'm making is that he's not doing a lot for outreach to bridge the gap between him and those who did not vote for him. those who might be wary of him. the communities that will have to work with him when he takes office. intelligence community being one of those aspects of it. and the question...
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john lewis is a partisan. i have a great deal of respect for him but he's a partisan and i disagree with him on issues. i should be able to honestly disagree with him and not have it come to be i have no appreciation for civil rights icon because of this, and i think that's the part that i think is sometimes unfair in this. >> let's turn to health care. i want you to hear from a kentucky resident who voted for donald trump and is now concerned about possibly losing obamacare. take a listen. >> you supported donald trump in this election. >> i did, i did. >> but if obamacare goes away? >> if obamacare goes away. >> going to be in a real depression. >> you want the jobs? >> yes. >> you want the health care that obama has provide? >> i do, and i know it sounds weird. >> i know i'm not telling you anything that you don't know, more than 400,000 great people in your commonwealth of kentucky have been able to get health insurance because of obamacare, whether through the medicaid expansion or subsidized private insu
john lewis is a partisan. i have a great deal of respect for him but he's a partisan and i disagree with him on issues. i should be able to honestly disagree with him and not have it come to be i have no appreciation for civil rights icon because of this, and i think that's the part that i think is sometimes unfair in this. >> let's turn to health care. i want you to hear from a kentucky resident who voted for donald trump and is now concerned about possibly losing obamacare. take a...
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and i disagree with what john lewis said. there is no question donald trump will be sworn in on friday and he will be the chief executive our federal government and the commander-in-chief. the media wouldn't have covered this because john lewis is a civil rights icon. think are thinking is this the black community and john lewis taking on donald trump. howie: when trump comes back on twitter and says all talk, no action, referring to the congressman from atlanta. he was attacked first, he was called not legitimate by a leading democratic congressman. is john lewis immune from criticism because of what he did 50 years ago? >> i don't think anyone should be immune from criticism. >> i think it left views him as a conduit in which to get their message across. also, it's also to note that john lewis is fundraising often do *'s comments and so is the dnc. >> this remind me of when meryl streep hijacked the golden globes. calling trump and his people on the carpet. madonna said she feels like she has been dumped by a lover and stuc
and i disagree with what john lewis said. there is no question donald trump will be sworn in on friday and he will be the chief executive our federal government and the commander-in-chief. the media wouldn't have covered this because john lewis is a civil rights icon. think are thinking is this the black community and john lewis taking on donald trump. howie: when trump comes back on twitter and says all talk, no action, referring to the congressman from atlanta. he was attacked first, he was...
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the war of words with congressman john lewis. what the president-elect tweeted that is sparking outrage. >>> reunited. the baby kidnapped 18 years ago now face to face with her biological family. the woman accused of taking her now behind bars. >>> the world's most famous hijacking mystery. stumping the fbi for nearly half a century, but did amateur scientists just discover a major clue? >>> and liftoff. the critical space launch. why this rocket has so much riding on it. >>> good evening, and thank you for joining us on this busy saturday. i'm cecilia vega. we begin tonight with what is proving to be a deadly winter blast. weather alerts at this hour across a dozen states, and now states of emergency. the roads downright dangerous here in northern missouri. an overturned semi. wave after wave of ice sending drivers skidding. this 20-car pileup in downtown wichita. 20 million across the country under threat. that flag right there frozen stiff north of tulsa, oklahoma. and no easy going for this woman in arnold, missouri, and for
the war of words with congressman john lewis. what the president-elect tweeted that is sparking outrage. >>> reunited. the baby kidnapped 18 years ago now face to face with her biological family. the woman accused of taking her now behind bars. >>> the world's most famous hijacking mystery. stumping the fbi for nearly half a century, but did amateur scientists just discover a major clue? >>> and liftoff. the critical space launch. why this rocket has so much riding on...
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he also lashed out at john lewis tweeting, "congressman john lewis should spend more time on fixing and helping his district, which is in horrible shape and falling apart, not to mention crime-infested, rather than falsely complaining about the election results. all talk, talk, talk, no actions or results. sad." that would be this john lewis who helped lead the 1963 march on washington and had his skull fractured by state troopers after marching into selma, alabama, in 1965 and who described trump as an illegitimate president. >> i don't see the president-elect as a legitimate president. i think the russians participated in having this man get elected and they have destroyed the candidacy of hillary clinton. i don't plan to attend the inauguration. it would be the first one that i miss since i've been in the congress. you cannot be at home with something that you feel is wrong. >> lewis' decision not to attend friday's inauguration and trump's response has spurred many of lewis' colleagues to follow suit. there are as of now at least 31 democratic lawmakers who have announced plans to b
he also lashed out at john lewis tweeting, "congressman john lewis should spend more time on fixing and helping his district, which is in horrible shape and falling apart, not to mention crime-infested, rather than falsely complaining about the election results. all talk, talk, talk, no actions or results. sad." that would be this john lewis who helped lead the 1963 march on washington and had his skull fractured by state troopers after marching into selma, alabama, in 1965 and who...
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john lewis, you throw on there, it was chuck jones at one point. you had a steelworker guy, gm, i mean, most of them have been democrats, some republicans, lots of members of the media, present company included. at what point is this a problem for him? >> i think everyone needs to get used to this. this is the new abnormal, and trump is going to -- he finds this effective and emotionally gratifying for him with communication and his supporters love it when he lambastes his critics especially when he takes conventions and pieties of our politics when you don't hit back hard like statements of john lewis and i see it through working through stages of grief. all of this russia stuff, at least a lot of it was litigated during the election. hillary clinton lost anyway, and my guess is democrats when they actually get traction against donald trump it is a normal opposition opposing a normal republican who wants to cut taxes for the rich. >> you are downplaying the russian angle a little bit? >> i think everything we learned since the election could from
john lewis, you throw on there, it was chuck jones at one point. you had a steelworker guy, gm, i mean, most of them have been democrats, some republicans, lots of members of the media, present company included. at what point is this a problem for him? >> i think everyone needs to get used to this. this is the new abnormal, and trump is going to -- he finds this effective and emotionally gratifying for him with communication and his supporters love it when he lambastes his critics...
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this is john lewis. >> well, we're in a tough place because john lewis is someone that, you know, clearly his track record, right, his actions during the civil rights movement are undisputable. he is a hero to many for what he has done. however, it's ironic to me that the lenl i want si of the presidency -- we talked during the debates about this. it was all thought that donald trump would be questioning the legitimacy, and you knew the outrage from the left when he said that. now the left is questioning the outcome of this election, and the american people are the losers in this. it's in our best interest that the president who hasn't even taken office yet is felt as if he is our president. whether you voted for him or not, we want him to succeed. i think that john lewis -- i think he took a misstep here. i really do. i think that it's in everybody's best interest that we get the ball rolling on january 20th and we try to work together at some level. i think he really just had a misstep. >> how could donald trump, the new president as of one week from now responded more to the point that
this is john lewis. >> well, we're in a tough place because john lewis is someone that, you know, clearly his track record, right, his actions during the civil rights movement are undisputable. he is a hero to many for what he has done. however, it's ironic to me that the lenl i want si of the presidency -- we talked during the debates about this. it was all thought that donald trump would be questioning the legitimacy, and you knew the outrage from the left when he said that. now the...
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john lewis is an icon. for president-elect trump to get into a twitter battle with him and insult the man is almost -- it's just something that just is stunning to me. you know, i kind of follow michelle obama's creed. when someone goes low, you go up. i think we're better off trying to show the country that we are not going to fall to the depths of, you know, that donald trump is clearly falling. i mean, at some point and maybe this is going to happen in the inaugural address, but it's going to be more significant in terms of his actions and words. the man is going to be president of everyone. he has a responsibility to lead that way. and this divisive rhetoric and this almost child-like tendency to use twitter on a day-to-day basis has got to stop. what is going to happen, i have no idea. >> i don't think donald trump is going to stop using twitter any time soon. but i appreciate your perspectives. we have a lot more to discuss. specifically what we were just talking about with chris. dozens of members of
john lewis is an icon. for president-elect trump to get into a twitter battle with him and insult the man is almost -- it's just something that just is stunning to me. you know, i kind of follow michelle obama's creed. when someone goes low, you go up. i think we're better off trying to show the country that we are not going to fall to the depths of, you know, that donald trump is clearly falling. i mean, at some point and maybe this is going to happen in the inaugural address, but it's going...
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do i stand with donald trump or do i stand with john lewis? i amtanding with john lewis. so representative, do you believe, then tharks t, that th president-elect will not be a legitimate president? >> i believe that donald trump won the electoral college, but i am not going to normalize his behavior. he's attacked gold star parents, veterans, latinos and now john lewis. so i am making the personal decision to not attend the inauguration. what makes america great is, unlike russia, we don't make people attend parades and ceremony. we hold people accountable. and that's what i am doing. i'm standing up to donald trump. >> you have heard the criticisms here coming from the right. and some might say and phillip, if you heard our conversation in the last block is intimating basically, as we look at martin luther king, an individual who so clearly and passionately said i embrace those that i do not agree with, and in that spirit might you also attend, then, the inauguration? >> can a person like trump, who has made a series of racist,big have a good idea? the answer is yes. bu
do i stand with donald trump or do i stand with john lewis? i amtanding with john lewis. so representative, do you believe, then tharks t, that th president-elect will not be a legitimate president? >> i believe that donald trump won the electoral college, but i am not going to normalize his behavior. he's attacked gold star parents, veterans, latinos and now john lewis. so i am making the personal decision to not attend the inauguration. what makes america great is, unlike russia, we...
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>> look, john lewis is a member of congress. being a member of congress, no matter who you are, is a tough job. i've worked on capitol hill, these people really put their heart and soul into it. so you're going to, you're going to, i mean after all, john lewis started this. he's the one who threw the first elbow, if you will. so he got an elbow thrown back. that's the way it works on capitol hill. >> wajaha, what do you have to say to them? >> there's so much spin here, i can see the smoke all the way from up here. first of all, birtherism is racist. the way it was used by donald trump and republicans to delegitimize president obama was racist. the fact this they deliberately used the religious identity of 1.7 billion people, muslim, to take president obama for eight years was racist. all this elbow for an elbow. president-elect donald trump, you are the commander-in-chief. you are the president. act presidential. do not take to twitter to air out your grievances, if someone complains against you. for example, john lewis, a civi
>> look, john lewis is a member of congress. being a member of congress, no matter who you are, is a tough job. i've worked on capitol hill, these people really put their heart and soul into it. so you're going to, you're going to, i mean after all, john lewis started this. he's the one who threw the first elbow, if you will. so he got an elbow thrown back. that's the way it works on capitol hill. >> wajaha, what do you have to say to them? >> there's so much spin here, i can...
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john lewis is a hero. a civil rights hero. they're right in saying, donald trump is a legitimate president. he won fair and square. he didn't win the election because of russian interference. they do have a responsibility to stand up for that. it's just the way they do it that is the wrong approach. >> he's someone who with less than a pluflty of the vote. it doesn't make sense the way things unfolded. >> he has a plurality. not the majority. >> he has the plurality. the elect trorl college said he's the president. if i'm sitting there and part of his team and i go, look, we're probably not going win the next election with 46% of the vote. the other groups, you have to start building brajs towards. this week was a disaster because he's burning bridges, not building them. >> and he has to think about the poll numbers. 44% approval on gallup. >> i would say until saturday. it was a good week for the trump administration. aside from some tweets. a lot of people won't agree with all the cabinet picks. if you saw general kelly, gen
john lewis is a hero. a civil rights hero. they're right in saying, donald trump is a legitimate president. he won fair and square. he didn't win the election because of russian interference. they do have a responsibility to stand up for that. it's just the way they do it that is the wrong approach. >> he's someone who with less than a pluflty of the vote. it doesn't make sense the way things unfolded. >> he has a plurality. not the majority. >> he has the plurality. the elect...
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but first let's discuss this feud with congressman john lewis. cnn jessica schneider is live outside trump tower. jessica, what is the president-elect saying and why? >> reporter: well it was just before 8:00 this morning that the president-elect took to twitter as he often does firing back at those comments by congressman john lewis that happened yesterday -- that came out yesterday saying that congressman lewis does not view donald trump's presidency as legitimate. in part, because of those russian hacks during the election season. donald trump did fire back this morning in two different tweets. i'll read them for you. donald trump saying, congressman john lewis should spend more time on fixing and helping his district which is in horrible shape and falling apart not to mention crime infested rather than falsely complaining about the election results, all talk talk talk, no action or results. sad. of course, many would argue with that depiction of congressman john lewis, a renowned and respected civil rights leader who marched alongside martin
but first let's discuss this feud with congressman john lewis. cnn jessica schneider is live outside trump tower. jessica, what is the president-elect saying and why? >> reporter: well it was just before 8:00 this morning that the president-elect took to twitter as he often does firing back at those comments by congressman john lewis that happened yesterday -- that came out yesterday saying that congressman lewis does not view donald trump's presidency as legitimate. in part, because of...
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i think john lewis, i think he was feeling this, he was coming from a place of passion, john lewis, i don't think anyone asked if donald trump was a legitimate president, it's something that lewis felt he needed to say. what wasn't warranted is the president elect's attack on john lewis in such a personal and stereo typical way, to automatically revert to, your community sucks, because clearly you represent a black community that sucks is incorrect. >> it did go from russia meddling in the election, to you have a terrible community you should do more for your community. you haven't done anything. and quite honestly, the man almost lost his life, what more does one have to do in one lifetime? >> i want to say happy mlk day down here in atlanta. i want to get back to where all this came from. john lewis got on "meet the press" and said there was a russian conspiracy that relates to the election process. the fbi said there is no wrongdoing or meddling in the election process, that right there for him to come out and say that the russians were -- >> i don't think that's true. >> let me fi
i think john lewis, i think he was feeling this, he was coming from a place of passion, john lewis, i don't think anyone asked if donald trump was a legitimate president, it's something that lewis felt he needed to say. what wasn't warranted is the president elect's attack on john lewis in such a personal and stereo typical way, to automatically revert to, your community sucks, because clearly you represent a black community that sucks is incorrect. >> it did go from russia meddling in...
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>> john lewis is an icon for this service to his country. what he did in the civil rights movement allowed in people like myself to be able to vote and be able to vote in historic numbers for donald trump. donald trump received a historic amount of african-american support, 13% from african-american men like myself and john lewis. that would not have been possible without the sacrifices john lewis has given to this country. so with much respect we give john lewis for his time and service to this country and continues to aggressive. >> did donald trump cross a line with what he said about john lewis? >> i think that donald trump was talking about crime in atlanta. i'm from atlanta. i understand the challenges there. that's fair game to talk about the state of affairs anywhere in this country. it wasn't personal to john lewis. let's look at the facts, look at atlanta. atlanta is a great city. i think they've done great job of increasing police. but there are still challenges there. there's no one who will tell you there's still not challenges
>> john lewis is an icon for this service to his country. what he did in the civil rights movement allowed in people like myself to be able to vote and be able to vote in historic numbers for donald trump. donald trump received a historic amount of african-american support, 13% from african-american men like myself and john lewis. that would not have been possible without the sacrifices john lewis has given to this country. so with much respect we give john lewis for his time and service...
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brennan and congressman john lewis. the question is why is he sparring so close to the inauguration? let's discuss it all and more with former north carolina governor pat mccorey. the governor has been in regular contact with the president elect and his transition team. thank you for joining us. >> thanks for having me. >> i have to begin with this, your reaction to the president elect's tweet last john brennan was critical of him on fox news sunday, quoting a fox news article that was titled outgoing cia chief john brennan blasts president-elect trump op russia threat does not fully understand. trump says, oh, really? couldn't do much worse. just look at sierra, red line, crimea, ukraine and the build up of russian nukes not good. was this the leaker of fake news? it's that last line. he's questioning whether the head of the cia leaked this 35-page unsubstantiated dossier with no evidence behind asking whether this man is the leaker. your reaction? >> well, first thing we've realized during the campaign and also at the
brennan and congressman john lewis. the question is why is he sparring so close to the inauguration? let's discuss it all and more with former north carolina governor pat mccorey. the governor has been in regular contact with the president elect and his transition team. thank you for joining us. >> thanks for having me. >> i have to begin with this, your reaction to the president elect's tweet last john brennan was critical of him on fox news sunday, quoting a fox news article that...
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i believe in john lewis. i wouldn't be here on cnn if it wasn't for people like john lewis. john lewis has led it this far and i'm going to ride john lewis until we actually get to say ben ferguson that we are free. >> bakari sellers, ben ferguson, thank you. thank you both. this is incredibly important to talk about. i appreciate both of your opinions tonight. >>> coming up, the flect says he's make the best deals for this country. what does he do when china responds with the words nonnegotiable. what happens to the art of the deal then? the comment putting the president-elect at odds with beijing tonight. 100% of our food is 100% clean. no artificial preservatives, sweeteners, flavors, or colors. panera. food as it should be. i am totally blind. i lost my sight in afghanistan. if you're totally blind, you may also be struggling with non-24. calling 844-844-2424. or visit my24info.com. tiki barber running hambone!a barber shop?t hut! yes!!! surprising. yes!!! what's not surprising? how much money david saved by switching to geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen perc
i believe in john lewis. i wouldn't be here on cnn if it wasn't for people like john lewis. john lewis has led it this far and i'm going to ride john lewis until we actually get to say ben ferguson that we are free. >> bakari sellers, ben ferguson, thank you. thank you both. this is incredibly important to talk about. i appreciate both of your opinions tonight. >>> coming up, the flect says he's make the best deals for this country. what does he do when china responds with the...
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but on john lewis. first of all, i disagree with john lewis. i believe that donald trump is a legitimate president. i didn't vote for him, i don't like the outcome, but, he won the electoral college. he's the president of the united states. at the same time, john lewis has a right to say that and for donald trump to say punch down, to resort to a outly personal attack on john lewis i think is beneath the presidency. one other point. i also find it ironic that donald trump would be so upset about somebody questioning his legitimacy when he spent years questioning the legitimacy of barack obama, up until about a year ago. and so come on, donald. >> this was a guy who popularized the birther movement. i want to ask you about this question, and it was in that statement from jerry nadler. you cannot normalize the trump presidency. what does that actually mean? he's not a legitimate president, but whatever you think of him, he is going to be the president next week. you don't vote on anything that donald trump is going to sign into law? even if he ag
but on john lewis. first of all, i disagree with john lewis. i believe that donald trump is a legitimate president. i didn't vote for him, i don't like the outcome, but, he won the electoral college. he's the president of the united states. at the same time, john lewis has a right to say that and for donald trump to say punch down, to resort to a outly personal attack on john lewis i think is beneath the presidency. one other point. i also find it ironic that donald trump would be so upset...
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i stand with john lewis and not attend the inauguration. he joins luis gutierrez, representative of barbara lee and katherine clark, a growing number with the testy back and forth with congressman john lewis who did a tweet in an interview said he does not believe president-elect donald trump will be a legitimate president but then donald trump tweeting this that congressman john lewis should spend more time on fixing and helping his district which is in horrible shape, falling apart, i'm trying to read the screen here. rather than falsely complaining about the election results, all talk, all talk, talk, talk, no action or results. sad. that coming from donald trump, so let's talk more about this with cnn political analyst and editor at the new york times, patrick healy. this is ugly and it's getting worse. especially when you have now a number of people among them, congress people who have tweeted their admiration for the work that john lewis has done and now you've got ten saying publicly they will hot be in attendance. >> that's right. t
i stand with john lewis and not attend the inauguration. he joins luis gutierrez, representative of barbara lee and katherine clark, a growing number with the testy back and forth with congressman john lewis who did a tweet in an interview said he does not believe president-elect donald trump will be a legitimate president but then donald trump tweeting this that congressman john lewis should spend more time on fixing and helping his district which is in horrible shape, falling apart, i'm...
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john lewis is my hero. and the problem with donald trump -- and he's got to get over this -- he's so damn thin skinned. he attacks meryl streep, right? he attacks arnold schwarzeneg r schwarzenegger, now john lewis. there is nobody who said anything in any way critical of him that he doesn't attack. and as you say, reverend al, it's not just disagreeing on the policies. you can disagree, but it's a personal belittling attack which is beneath the dignity of the presidency. >> and i think joe is right. what we have to do is call him out on every one of these things and then maybe somebody will take the sweet machine away from him. >> do you think that anyone around him can really get to him and convince him that at some point you've got to try to do what is good for the country and stop dealing with just such thin-skinned reactions to people that are beyond you taking these kind of gratuitous shots like at john lewis? >> in one word, no. here's the problem, and here's what he's going to learn. i do not work f
john lewis is my hero. and the problem with donald trump -- and he's got to get over this -- he's so damn thin skinned. he attacks meryl streep, right? he attacks arnold schwarzeneg r schwarzenegger, now john lewis. there is nobody who said anything in any way critical of him that he doesn't attack. and as you say, reverend al, it's not just disagreeing on the policies. you can disagree, but it's a personal belittling attack which is beneath the dignity of the presidency. >> and i think...
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congressman john lewis' district. if it's such a hell hole, if it's so horrible, why was donald trump willing to give his architecture -- >> you clever liberals. you're so clever. thank you, jonathan cape heart, ginger gibson and ken vogel. when we return, trump watch for this tuesday night, you're watching "hardball." en my doctor told me i have age-related macular degeneration, amd, he told me to look at this grid every day. and we came up with a plan to help reduce my risk of progression, including preservision areds 2. my doctor said preservision areds 2 has the exact nutrient formula the national eye institute recommends to help reduce the risk of progression of moderate to advanced amd after 15 years of clinical studies. preservision areds 2. because my eyes are everything. the markets change... at t. rowe price... our disciplined approach remains. global markets may be uncertain... but you can feel confident in our investment experience around the world. call us or your advisor... t. rowe price. invest with con
congressman john lewis' district. if it's such a hell hole, if it's so horrible, why was donald trump willing to give his architecture -- >> you clever liberals. you're so clever. thank you, jonathan cape heart, ginger gibson and ken vogel. when we return, trump watch for this tuesday night, you're watching "hardball." en my doctor told me i have age-related macular degeneration, amd, he told me to look at this grid every day. and we came up with a plan to help reduce my risk of...
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john lewis is not all talk and no action. >> no, absolutely i would say john lewis has demonstrated that he is action. as i said, things get said on both sides in the heat of of emotion. people are literally probably dying. we need to talk about how do we feed people, how do we clothe people, how do we create the best education system? that's what we need to focus on. >> what do you think your father's message would be to president-elect trump? >> this is the final answer because i'm i'm going the reiterate what i just said. i think my father would be concerned about the fact there are 50 or 60 million people living in poverty and somehow we've got to create climate for all votes to be lifted. in america work a $20 trillion economy, it's insanity that we have poor people in this nation. that's unacceptable and when we work together, we know we can roll up our sleeves, there is nothing that we as americans can't do. thank you very much. >> martin luther king iii speaking out about this latest controversy surrounding representative john lewis, the civil rights leader the civil rights icon
john lewis is not all talk and no action. >> no, absolutely i would say john lewis has demonstrated that he is action. as i said, things get said on both sides in the heat of of emotion. people are literally probably dying. we need to talk about how do we feed people, how do we clothe people, how do we create the best education system? that's what we need to focus on. >> what do you think your father's message would be to president-elect trump? >> this is the final answer...
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john lewis has the right to say this. there's no question about it. but do we really know and could we ever prove that russia truly made a material difference? it's impossible to prove. the fbi said it -- charles: but is that still, is that the debate here? because it feels like at this point we've got a president-elect, we're going to have a new president this week, and isn't it time for all of us whether we like it or not to accept the outcome? because i think the american public was pretty loud, pretty clear. donald trump won so many states, so many counties that were barack obama's states and counties. >> well, if you look at what lewis said, it's the issue. there's no question. you're right, he did win. but from lewis' perspective, he's not legitimate because the russians were somehow meddling. [laughter] and he's not that smart. no one is, to know what the real net effect was, charles, it's impossible to know. and, therefore, let's follow the process. let's follow the system as we've said. and that's really what should happen. charles: you know,
john lewis has the right to say this. there's no question about it. but do we really know and could we ever prove that russia truly made a material difference? it's impossible to prove. the fbi said it -- charles: but is that still, is that the debate here? because it feels like at this point we've got a president-elect, we're going to have a new president this week, and isn't it time for all of us whether we like it or not to accept the outcome? because i think the american public was pretty...
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so there's a partner with john lewis. it's unfortunate, and i think it's embarrassing to the democrats, and i would like to see some democrats come out and call him out on this and say, folks, this is about the presidency, the office. not the individual. and we should pay respect to our constitutional form of government and the fact that we do change power with ballots not bullets. and that ought to be something that we observe, celebrate regardless of the outcome of the election. liz: it's an important point you make. by the way, it was george w. bush that he didn't attend; is that right. >> yes. george w. bush. liz: listen, john lewis, it's marbling day, but your point's well taken. i mean, correct me if i'm wrong, i think he's called jeff sessions george wallis, called john mccain a george wallis, said he's using hyperbolic rhetoric, john lewis in the past. is that right? >> well, look, i don't want to take anything away from the civil rights record that he had in the '60s. but we're now talking about the year 2017. an
so there's a partner with john lewis. it's unfortunate, and i think it's embarrassing to the democrats, and i would like to see some democrats come out and call him out on this and say, folks, this is about the presidency, the office. not the individual. and we should pay respect to our constitutional form of government and the fact that we do change power with ballots not bullets. and that ought to be something that we observe, celebrate regardless of the outcome of the election. liz: it's an...
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john lewis raised that once again. members of the both the republican and democratic intelligence committee have raised that. there needs to be a complete investigation. i would like to see a biparti n bipartisan, something that can be done in public. it is damaging if a foreign power was involved in our elections process. >> we will talk more about russia in the next block. let me ask you. i understand you would take issue with the question of whether or not president-elect trump is legitimate. >> i don't think they need to take issue with this. >> okay. >> the idea that we are questioning that is absurd. >> as a political matter if donald trump said how should i handle this what would you say? >> donald trump is president and i'm not. i'm not giving any advice on how to handle these things. what he has done is break every single rule and it's working out pretty well for him. i think the last thing he said in his tweet is right. it's sad. lewis lewis was a great civil rights leader when he made his mark and continued
john lewis raised that once again. members of the both the republican and democratic intelligence committee have raised that. there needs to be a complete investigation. i would like to see a biparti n bipartisan, something that can be done in public. it is damaging if a foreign power was involved in our elections process. >> we will talk more about russia in the next block. let me ask you. i understand you would take issue with the question of whether or not president-elect trump is...
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john lewis deserves the accolades as a person of bravery. when donald trump tweets "all talk, no action," people who know civil rights history and black americans of a certain ag age, they are turned out, thinking what is he saying? you can't say that about this guy. this guy put himself on the line and took risks. this is not a man who is all talk and no action. no way. >> bret: that is the problem with tweeting. there is no nuance. i think he is tweeting all talk, no action about the problems in inner cities but not john lewis. >> bret: even if we said it's just about what's going on in john lewis' congressional district, he suggests it's a mess. that's not the case. you know atlanta. this is a congressman who has had some success. again and again, you say tweeting is inadequate. it's the fact that even today on king's birthday, people say to me, where is donald trump? is he doing something with a black group that would at least signify some intent toward healing? the answer was well, he had martin luther king iii come visit. didn't take a
john lewis deserves the accolades as a person of bravery. when donald trump tweets "all talk, no action," people who know civil rights history and black americans of a certain ag age, they are turned out, thinking what is he saying? you can't say that about this guy. this guy put himself on the line and took risks. this is not a man who is all talk and no action. no way. >> bret: that is the problem with tweeting. there is no nuance. i think he is tweeting all talk, no action...
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now he is blasting john lewis for his anti-trump boycott. mason weaver was part of the black panthers. later today. your credit score must be amazing. my credit score? credit karma. it's free. that's great! um hm. just whip bam boom, it's done. that apartment is mine! credit karma. give yourself some credit. "how to win at business." step one: point decisively with the arm of your glasses. abracadabra. the stage is yours. step two: choose la quinta. the only hotel where you can redeem loyalty points for a free night-instantly and win at business. [ slurpnew girl, huh? yeah, i'm -- i couldn't help but notice you checking out my name your price tool. yeah, this bad boy gives you coverage options based on your budget. -oh -- -oh, not so fast, tadpole. you have to learn to swim first. claire, here's your name your price tool. -oh, thanks, flo. -mm-hmm. jamie, don't forget to clean the fridge when you're done. she seems nice. she seems nice. [ door closes ] she's actually pretty nice. oh. yeah. >> tucker: congressman john lewis of georgia is bein
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king said are you john lewis? are you the boy from troy? i said, dr. king, i'm dr. robert lewis. and he called me "the boy from troy." he told me, he said, john as you attempt to condition your efforts to enter troy state, your parents could lose their land, your home could be bombed or burned, something to happen to you. but if you want to go, we will support you. go back home and have a discussion with your mother and with your father. my mother was so afraid, my father was so afraid that they could lose the land, home could be burned or bombed so i continued to study in nashville. and it was in nashville, tennessee that dr. king would come and speak, rosa parks would come and speak, thurgood marshall would come and speak at fish university and others. and i got to know these individuals. and one day on fish university campus, congressman wilson walking across the campus and dr. deboys was on the calmmpus. being there inspired me to stand up, to speak up and to speak out with a group of students from fish university, tennessee state, from vanderbilt and peabody and skerritt and
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john lewis said first time not attending inauguration. this is beyond politics for him. different about it than conservative and liberal for john lewis isn't there? >> i think there is. and i think he's a national hero. on this question, we don't have the facts or evidence, nothing verifiable that the russians threw this election to donald trump. i think it's given where we are premature to argue that. just disagree with him on the phrasing. but do agree with douglas brinkley. in the past new presidents have reached out to heal divisions in the country and as a result they have -- their approvals have gone up. this is the first president in recorded history whose approval ratings since the election have actually gone down. new gallup poll has him at historic polls. only 44% of the country approve of him in the transition. compared to george w. bush, 61% approval during the transition. bill clinton 68%, and barack obama, 83% approval during his first transition. so i do think donald trump has been a divisive figure and he needs to be more presidential and reach out to the
john lewis said first time not attending inauguration. this is beyond politics for him. different about it than conservative and liberal for john lewis isn't there? >> i think there is. and i think he's a national hero. on this question, we don't have the facts or evidence, nothing verifiable that the russians threw this election to donald trump. i think it's given where we are premature to argue that. just disagree with him on the phrasing. but do agree with douglas brinkley. in the past...
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john lewis is a man of action. he had to do it against his own government to get voting rights and civil rights for that was wrong. that was the straw that broke the camel's back. >> bret: could it be he was not talking about his civil rights record and what he did in the past but what he's doing now to lift inner-city situations across america? and particularly in his district? i'm not reading between the lines here in the president-elect's tweets but they are only 140 characters or less. >> i know cnn has is in atlantd you have to go through atlanta to get anywhere in the south. there are a lot of good communities and areas. he took a slight at atlanta. you can't communicate through 140 or 142 characters. that's one of the problems the president has. if he wanted to communicate that, he should've sent a letter to john lewis, not tweeted and expressed his thoughts about inner cities. he expressed his thoughts in ways that were open to interpretation. when he does that concerning foreign policy, we are at risk. >>
john lewis is a man of action. he had to do it against his own government to get voting rights and civil rights for that was wrong. that was the straw that broke the camel's back. >> bret: could it be he was not talking about his civil rights record and what he did in the past but what he's doing now to lift inner-city situations across america? and particularly in his district? i'm not reading between the lines here in the president-elect's tweets but they are only 140 characters or...
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john lewis has more than earned the right to speak his mind, because while john lewis put his body on the line for the civil rights movement, donald trump was inheriting millions of dollars for doing absolutely nothing. and the idea that donald trump would insult a civil rights icon, an american freedom fighter, on the weekend of the martin luther king is just insulting and just wrong. it's not surprising because this is what donald trump does, because now we have a bully in chief who loves to dole out criticism but when anybody criticizes him he can't take it. >> i appreciate the defense of john lewis, but do you agree with him that he is an illegitimate president? >> i think that it is really hard to really accept donald trump. he's had this moment to bring the country together and what he's done is been divisive and pumed us apart. and you have this toxic brew that led to his election. you have the fake news, the russian hacking, and everything else with the comey letter that makes it hard for americans to really trust how this election process really went through. >> rebecca, let
john lewis has more than earned the right to speak his mind, because while john lewis put his body on the line for the civil rights movement, donald trump was inheriting millions of dollars for doing absolutely nothing. and the idea that donald trump would insult a civil rights icon, an american freedom fighter, on the weekend of the martin luther king is just insulting and just wrong. it's not surprising because this is what donald trump does, because now we have a bully in chief who loves to...