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then the second line of questioning for todd blanche from todd merchan was whether donald trump, you know, when he is reposting an article about michael cohen, with his photo on it, questioning his credibility as a potential witness, how does that not directly implicate donald trump as promoting, you know, misinformation or attacks on a potential witness. michael cohen. and todd blanche struggled to directly answer that by saying that, well, reposts or not, technically statements by donald trump. of course, there is a long public record in which donald trump disputed what his lawyer said in that courtroom, but both responses from judge merchan led to -- by todd blanche led to frustrations by judge merchan because he felt like he was not getting a real response to the violations that were contended from the prosecution's office. >> vaughn, thank you for that. i'll go back to the gag hearing, what is going on right now in the courtroom is really interesting. you can see it on the side there, that cohen told pecker, according to the testimony here, that his boss was pleased after he bot
then the second line of questioning for todd blanche from todd merchan was whether donald trump, you know, when he is reposting an article about michael cohen, with his photo on it, questioning his credibility as a potential witness, how does that not directly implicate donald trump as promoting, you know, misinformation or attacks on a potential witness. michael cohen. and todd blanche struggled to directly answer that by saying that, well, reposts or not, technically statements by donald...
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todd blanche goes on to say last night 12 hours ago mr. cohen on a public forum said that he had mental excitement about this trial and his testimony. he has a goal of getting president trump. todd blanche is emphasizing that they should question the credibility of michael cohen who was, yes, a long time friend but somebody who in the years since, we go back to 2018 when these relationships started to fray, has since gone on the attack against donald trump after he was pushed out from donald trump's orbit. it's a lot about the credibility of these witnesses in these opening statements that todd blanche, donald trump's attorney is trying to hit home for this jury. >> and again, another objection to testimony, rather statements made by todd blanche, trump's attorney that was also sustained by judge merchan just a moment ago, and another bench conference that's taking place. we're going to come back to these opening statements in just a moment, but there is another trump legal hearing underway right now dealing with the civil fraud trial, and
todd blanche goes on to say last night 12 hours ago mr. cohen on a public forum said that he had mental excitement about this trial and his testimony. he has a goal of getting president trump. todd blanche is emphasizing that they should question the credibility of michael cohen who was, yes, a long time friend but somebody who in the years since, we go back to 2018 when these relationships started to fray, has since gone on the attack against donald trump after he was pushed out from donald...
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he has to rely on people like todd blanche and others to be his advocates in court. what is it like? you not only witnessed it this morning, you felt the energy, but to see somebody like todd blanche smacked down by the judge in that way. >> i think it's a really interesting question, and i think it's problematic in multiple respects. today, donald trump has -- todd has been selective in the case where is he's gone up before the judge. it's the classified documents where they have a judge in effect pulling in their favor, and todd has won every single time. idea and today for the first two times todd has lost. today, it was really visceral. i mean, for the judge to tell a defense lawyer, you're losing all credibility with the court, you don't have to be a lawyer to know that's bad. when you're the client, and you're the defendant in a criminal trial, and your lawyer is getting admonished like that, i have to imagine that it starts the pecker relationship between trump and todd blanche. one thing that was interesting, after that colloquy ended, and todd sat back down,
he has to rely on people like todd blanche and others to be his advocates in court. what is it like? you not only witnessed it this morning, you felt the energy, but to see somebody like todd blanche smacked down by the judge in that way. >> i think it's a really interesting question, and i think it's problematic in multiple respects. today, donald trump has -- todd has been selective in the case where is he's gone up before the judge. it's the classified documents where they have a judge...
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here is a part of a conversation, i want to read back to you, between judge merchan and todd blanche. judge merchan, quote, have you spoken with mr. avenatti about what he means? blanch responded, no, of course not. to which judge merchan responded, then how can you interpret what he believes? this is coming down to a moment where this gag order and donald trump will be held in contempt for violating the gag order. we have nine more posts to go through. this is just post number one. >> vaughn hillyard, thank you for that update. let's bring back our legal panel. chuck, just a reaction to what we are hearing from the defense now as it is their turn in this gag order hearing. >> it is their turn and you're hearing what you would expect to hear, that it wasn't willful and that mr. trump has first amendment rights to speak, particularly during a political campaign. i don't find it terribly avowing. the fact he was only replying to mr. avenatti doesn't cut it for me. >> do you believe that avenatti is now the subject of the hearing, again? >> wouldn't it be nice if some people, not naming
here is a part of a conversation, i want to read back to you, between judge merchan and todd blanche. judge merchan, quote, have you spoken with mr. avenatti about what he means? blanch responded, no, of course not. to which judge merchan responded, then how can you interpret what he believes? this is coming down to a moment where this gag order and donald trump will be held in contempt for violating the gag order. we have nine more posts to go through. this is just post number one. >>...
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blanche to depict pharaoh as carrying out the orders of the prosecutors, which is also what todd blanche did when it came to the testimony of david pecker, kind of establishing you talk to these guys, these prosecution officials in 2018. what happened? many times, have you met with him? met with them? what is that? that's pretty standard stuff. >> does having inherently wrong with questioning where are your allegiance is fall? you want to have a witness in front of this jury that's going to be objective and we're the information without are the sort of damocles hanging over their head that if i don't say what the prosecution wants me to say, i'm in trouble. but often club where you have an immunity witness, though, who is essentially going to be currying favor with the government for that reason does not truthful, but it's part of the consideration. you also know that we were talking about what they're trying to do. they're trying to establish that you've met with their prosecution enough times. that's that perhaps your narrative is far in line with what they'd like you to say. but nothi
blanche to depict pharaoh as carrying out the orders of the prosecutors, which is also what todd blanche did when it came to the testimony of david pecker, kind of establishing you talk to these guys, these prosecution officials in 2018. what happened? many times, have you met with him? met with them? what is that? that's pretty standard stuff. >> does having inherently wrong with questioning where are your allegiance is fall? you want to have a witness in front of this jury that's going...
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contentious between the judge, juan merchan and todd blanche. let me just read you a little bit of this. blanche, the attorney said this gag order. we are trying to comply with it, and there is no doubt that we are here about ten different purported violations president trump is being very careful to comply with, your honore, as rules and the judge cuts in you mr. blanche you are losing all credibility. >> i have to tell you that right now, you are all credibility with the court goes on a little bit later with blanche saying, to the extent that your honor views the posts about mr. cohen and the system is being too close to the line. >> tell president trump, tell me, and we will make sure it's not violated. helped me help you. in other words, he's saying the judge says, as far as the whole distinction between reposts, you have stated it's ambiguous. you stated you didn't know, but again, i hate to come back to this, but you're not offering anything to support your argument. >> blanche, the attorney says, but you're honore. >> the judge says, i wa
contentious between the judge, juan merchan and todd blanche. let me just read you a little bit of this. blanche, the attorney said this gag order. we are trying to comply with it, and there is no doubt that we are here about ten different purported violations president trump is being very careful to comply with, your honore, as rules and the judge cuts in you mr. blanche you are losing all credibility. >> i have to tell you that right now, you are all credibility with the court goes on a...
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and that is todd blanche. and "the new york times" reporting that he's not been following instructions closely, this is according to trump, and that he's been insufficiently aggressive, that trump wants him to attack witnesses, attack what the former president sees as a hostile jury pool, attack the judge, juan merchan, trump has also wondered aloud why his lawyers cost so much. your reaction to that. could we see the lawyers for donald trump be changed? >> could they withdraw? well, probably not at this stage. can trump fire them? yeah. a client can generally hire and fire any attorneys he wants. although judge merchan, if he perceives that as a ploy to delay the trial, that would be a problem. but generally speaking, the client can hire and fire his lawyers. you're not stuck with them unless they're court appointed and you can usually fire them as well. look, i think at this point, years in, if you decide to sign a retainer agreement with donald trump, you know this is part of the deal. it happens a lot that
and that is todd blanche. and "the new york times" reporting that he's not been following instructions closely, this is according to trump, and that he's been insufficiently aggressive, that trump wants him to attack witnesses, attack what the former president sees as a hostile jury pool, attack the judge, juan merchan, trump has also wondered aloud why his lawyers cost so much. your reaction to that. could we see the lawyers for donald trump be changed? >> could they withdraw?...
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todd blanche made his bet that he's riding on the trump train now and that's his decision. reputationally, that opens up a whole lot of things that are not worth talking about right now. what does it mean in the context of the case? every time he stands up to object, he has less credibility. anytime there's something that comes up with a piece of evidence, he will have less credibility. if this gets to a conviction and we are in are a sentencing phase, he will have less credibility. none of those things are good. all of those things are bad. he has to get into the damage control, quick. >> the judge said he will reserve the decision on the gag order violations and what to do about it. what do you think about that? >> it's going to be tough. if he doesn't make a decision right away it runs the risk of trump continuing to engage in potentially violating behavior. the judge is basically saying, let me digest the arguments and take time and speak to the law clerk and look at the law again, and he is being conscientious. and he has stated to trump's counsel, hey, you are losing
todd blanche made his bet that he's riding on the trump train now and that's his decision. reputationally, that opens up a whole lot of things that are not worth talking about right now. what does it mean in the context of the case? every time he stands up to object, he has less credibility. anytime there's something that comes up with a piece of evidence, he will have less credibility. if this gets to a conviction and we are in are a sentencing phase, he will have less credibility. none of...
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when it was over, todd blanche was moved to second chair. it was on to business, part two of the questioning of david pecker. pecker, who owned american media inc. in the early '90s was a smooth talking silver haired man who seems to have almost idolized donald trump. he described him as someone americans respected as the boss on "the apprentice," which was also the way michael cohen referred to trump. pecker said the trump covers were consistently the "national enquirer's" best seller. the other covers that sold a lot of enquirer magazines on the supermarket news stands, covers featuring stories about bill clinton's womanizing and hillary clinton enabling him. making the deal with michael cohen, something he says happened in august 2015 with cohen and then campaign communications director hope hicks in the room, was a win-win. the enquirer would publish negative stories about trump's opponents which they did repeatedly, particularly when ben carson, ted cruz, and marco rubio started rising in the polls in the spring of 2016. at the same tim
when it was over, todd blanche was moved to second chair. it was on to business, part two of the questioning of david pecker. pecker, who owned american media inc. in the early '90s was a smooth talking silver haired man who seems to have almost idolized donald trump. he described him as someone americans respected as the boss on "the apprentice," which was also the way michael cohen referred to trump. pecker said the trump covers were consistently the "national enquirer's"...
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this was a debacle for todd blanche. i mean, it was embarrassing for him. and to hear the judge openly say you're costing yourself credibility when here's how bad it got. this is the quote that i remember at one point. so remember donald trump reposted this quote from a fox news personality but it turned out that donald trump had manipulated it. the judge asked todd blanche can toggle had to say this in court, quote, i wouldn't use the word manipulation, your honore but the rest of the quote was not part of the quote. that is the definition of manipulation. so this was, let me just tell you one thing. todd blanche has gone through a little bit of cultural shock here because like me, he came up as a prosecutor, a federal prosecutor. you guys know, nobody is as cushioned as a federal prosecutor. and now he's got to deal with something you never had to deal with as a federal prosecutor, which is a client, and probably the world's most difficult client whispering in his ear and passing them notes the whole time. so it's a tough road, but he lost a lot today. >>
this was a debacle for todd blanche. i mean, it was embarrassing for him. and to hear the judge openly say you're costing yourself credibility when here's how bad it got. this is the quote that i remember at one point. so remember donald trump reposted this quote from a fox news personality but it turned out that donald trump had manipulated it. the judge asked todd blanche can toggle had to say this in court, quote, i wouldn't use the word manipulation, your honore but the rest of the quote...
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throughout the day, we've referenced todd blanche. he's his lead attorney, doing most of the talking on behalf of the defense team. what is so key, what he did not respond to, the testimony that came from david pecker, his friend of several decades. he did not explicitly refute there any of the testimony that came from david pecker here today and of course, he would have the opportunity to do that. not only in a public setting but also in the courtroom if he chose to testify himself in his defense. donald trump here heard the words of david pecker testify, number one, that donald trump sat in a meeting in august 2015 with him at trump tower and told him he was pleased about this scheme to catch and kill stories, salacious story, and plant negative stories about rival candidates. we also had david pecker testify in front of donald trump today that trump picked up the phone to call him about the karen mcdougle story. karen mcdougle alleged a ten month affair with him. and what you get from david pecker's testimony in the middle of this
throughout the day, we've referenced todd blanche. he's his lead attorney, doing most of the talking on behalf of the defense team. what is so key, what he did not respond to, the testimony that came from david pecker, his friend of several decades. he did not explicitly refute there any of the testimony that came from david pecker here today and of course, he would have the opportunity to do that. not only in a public setting but also in the courtroom if he chose to testify himself in his...
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would todd blanche and he can't retreat. he's got a difficult client there's no question in my mind that former president trump violated the gag order, at least in part sometimes an attorney will look at you when you're the presiding judge and his eyes kinda convey it, look a judge, i got nothing. i mean, i've i've used all i've used all emo that i have your attorney panelists will identify with gotten that same attorney every now and then yeah. >> well they will. and it's sort of a besieging luck. sometimes i go to sidebar and said, look, i know, judge, you want me to answer that question. i've given you all that i have at this point. so it was like the charge of the light brigade. he had just keep going at that point until finally, merchan got frustrated and made that comment about his credibility. i do have some empathy for him because frankly, a lot of that was indefensible and i don't think he had an explanation that he could render for it in good conscience. >> judge, the secret service and other law enforcement are pr
would todd blanche and he can't retreat. he's got a difficult client there's no question in my mind that former president trump violated the gag order, at least in part sometimes an attorney will look at you when you're the presiding judge and his eyes kinda convey it, look a judge, i got nothing. i mean, i've i've used all i've used all emo that i have your attorney panelists will identify with gotten that same attorney every now and then yeah. >> well they will. and it's sort of a...
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the judge asked todd, blanche and todd blanche had to say this in court, quote i wouldn't use the word manipulation, your honor, but the rest of the quote was not part of the quote. that is the definition of manipulation. so this was, let me just tell you one thing. todd blanche has gone through a little bit of cultural shock here because like me, he came up as a prosecutor, a federal prosecutor. you guys know, nobody is as cushioned as a federal prosecutor and now he's got to deal with something ever had to deal with as a federal prosecutor, which is a client, and probably the world's most difficult client, whispering in his ear and passing them notes the whole time. so it's a tough road, but he lost a lot today. >> but isn't the real message of merchan's upset today? it's really a trump. it's not a lawyer. i mean, it's the person who put the lawyer in this impossible position of defending the indefensible is the client, not the work. and judge, i wanted to just ask it. what would you do? okay. you're the judge. what you've got someone a violating a gag order repeatedly. >> what do yo
the judge asked todd, blanche and todd blanche had to say this in court, quote i wouldn't use the word manipulation, your honor, but the rest of the quote was not part of the quote. that is the definition of manipulation. so this was, let me just tell you one thing. todd blanche has gone through a little bit of cultural shock here because like me, he came up as a prosecutor, a federal prosecutor. you guys know, nobody is as cushioned as a federal prosecutor and now he's got to deal with...
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the judge asked todd, blanche and todd blanche had to say this in court, quote, i wouldn't use the word manipulation, your honor, but the rest of the quote was not part of the quote. that is the definition of manipulation so this was, let me just say one thing. todd blanche has gone through a little bit of cultural shock here because like me, he came up as a prosecutor, a federal prosecutor. you guys know nobody is as cushioned as a federal prosecutor. and now he's got to deal with something you never had to deal with as a federal prosecutor, which is a client, and probably the world's most difficult client, whispering in his ear and passing them notes the whole time. so it's a tough road, but he lost a lot today. >> but isn't the real message of merchan's upset today? it's really a trump, it's not a lawyer. i mean, it's the person who put the lawyer in this impossible position of defending the indefensible is the client, not the work. and judge, i wanted to just ask it. what would you do? okay. you're the judge. what you've got someone a violating a gag order repeatedly. what do you do
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i want to read you one quote from todd blanche. quote, president trump had nothing to do with the invoice, with the check being generated or with the entry on the ledger. todd blanche saying you're going to hear salacious stories from the likes of stormy daniels, but her story does not matter to the heart of the crimes that donald trump has been charged with. the 12 jurors and the six alternates have a big task ahead of them in the weeks ahead. they're going to be hearing from two sides with two very different takes on what they should be listening to from the evidence and the testimony that is provided to them from both of these sides. >> vaughn hillyard, thank you very much. >> let's bring in amy, former colleague of d.a. alvin bragg during his time as new york state's chief dep tip general. catherine christian and charles coleman are still with us. amy, let's talk about alvin bragg. talk to me about what you think he brought this case after first deciding not to. that's become an issue, certainly in the opening statement today.
i want to read you one quote from todd blanche. quote, president trump had nothing to do with the invoice, with the check being generated or with the entry on the ledger. todd blanche saying you're going to hear salacious stories from the likes of stormy daniels, but her story does not matter to the heart of the crimes that donald trump has been charged with. the 12 jurors and the six alternates have a big task ahead of them in the weeks ahead. they're going to be hearing from two sides with...
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in his opening statement, defense attorney todd blanche insisting president trump is innocent. "president trump did not commit any crimes." "i have a sfopoiler alert, ther is nothing wrong with trying to influence an election. it's called democracy. there is nothing wrong with entering a nondisclosure. he said trump was unaware of any effort to camouflage the payment to daniels as any expense and called michael cohen has an obsession of getting trump. he cannot be trusted. but prosecutors insist the alleged criminal conspiracy to protect trump involved others, including their first witness, david pecker, the former "national enquirer" publisher who once called trump a personal friend. as pecker took the stand, trump leaned forward, arms crossed, an angry look on his face. pecker has acknowledged buying negative stories about the candidate only the bury them, a practice known as catch and kill. on the stand, pecker was blunt. we used checkbook journalism. we paid for stories. he is testifying under a subpoena, having cut a deal with prosecutors to avoid charges himself. he was o
in his opening statement, defense attorney todd blanche insisting president trump is innocent. "president trump did not commit any crimes." "i have a sfopoiler alert, ther is nothing wrong with trying to influence an election. it's called democracy. there is nothing wrong with entering a nondisclosure. he said trump was unaware of any effort to camouflage the payment to daniels as any expense and called michael cohen has an obsession of getting trump. he cannot be trusted. but...
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judge merchan, despite the dispute of todd blanche, donald trump's attorney, said he will allow that evidence directly tied to pecker's meeting at the meeting in 2015 and brought before the jury. some of these pretrial conversations are happening in realtime before the jury selection begins inside. >> vaughn hillyard, thank you very much. >>> next, cameras, protests, police. new york city bracing for what could be the trial of a lifetime. >> we'll get insight from former nypd commissioner bill bratton on the intense security after a short break. stay right there. ort break. stay right there if you have chronic kidney disease you can reduce the risk of kidney failure with farxiga. because there are places you'd like to be. farxiga can cause serious side effects, including ketoacidosis that may be fatal, dehydration, urinary tract, or genital yeast infections, and low blood sugar. a rare, life-threatening bacterial infection in the skin of the perineum could occur. stop taking farxiga and call your doctor right away if you have symptoms of this infection, an allergic reaction, or ketoa
judge merchan, despite the dispute of todd blanche, donald trump's attorney, said he will allow that evidence directly tied to pecker's meeting at the meeting in 2015 and brought before the jury. some of these pretrial conversations are happening in realtime before the jury selection begins inside. >> vaughn hillyard, thank you very much. >>> next, cameras, protests, police. new york city bracing for what could be the trial of a lifetime. >> we'll get insight from former...
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. >> trump's lawyer, todd blanche said the order was not clear about reposts and he tried to argue that the former president was actually trying to comply with the order judge juan merchan exasperated with blanche's argument, scolded him and said, you're losing all credibility with the court now, the judge has not ruled yet on whether donald trump violated the gag order in this case, there's no court tomorrow, but court is back in session on thursday. david pecker will be back on the witness stand and he is expected to continue to testify about this pattern of hush money payments, including the $130,000 payment made to stormy daniels but the center of this case, wolf jurors canal outside the courthouse in new york. thank you very much. that 2015 meeting involving donald trump, michael cohen, and david pecker is certainly central to the prosecution's case against trump. and it's a claim of a criminal conspiracy cnn legal analyst joey jackson is taking a closer look, force. joey, let's dive into the so-called agreement among friends that were they called it an agreement among friends that
. >> trump's lawyer, todd blanche said the order was not clear about reposts and he tried to argue that the former president was actually trying to comply with the order judge juan merchan exasperated with blanche's argument, scolded him and said, you're losing all credibility with the court now, the judge has not ruled yet on whether donald trump violated the gag order in this case, there's no court tomorrow, but court is back in session on thursday. david pecker will be back on the...
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this is from todd blanche's mouth to theiary. and then my favorite, there is nothing wrong with trying to influence an election. it's called democracy. that is not how the world works, todd blanche. that is maybe the argument they're going to use because time and time again, telling the american public over and over again, there's nothing to see here, i mean, look, he had impeachments one and two. he didn't get convicted. i think that they believe if you just keep telling people this is just how it works, maybe they can get off, they can get away with it. the difference between then and now is this is a criminal trial, and you're held to a different standard. i was flabbergasted that this is the best they could come up with when faced with a lot of material from the prosecution. >> i also think what's happening here, too, is you're seeing that what's also not normal is somebody like ami and david pecker and dylan howard having to get immunity, because if it's okay to do all of this in journalism, why would you need immunity from
this is from todd blanche's mouth to theiary. and then my favorite, there is nothing wrong with trying to influence an election. it's called democracy. that is not how the world works, todd blanche. that is maybe the argument they're going to use because time and time again, telling the american public over and over again, there's nothing to see here, i mean, look, he had impeachments one and two. he didn't get convicted. i think that they believe if you just keep telling people this is just...
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what he said to todd blanche. joining us now, lisa rubin. so, lisa, i call it an explosive day in court because pecker goes into great detail about the relationship he had with michael cohen and what he believed michael cohen was doing. and also not to mention the relationship he had with donald trump and direct conversations he had with trump about what they were doing in the 2016 campaign. >> i think david pecker is a far more important witness that many people appreciate. not only because he can speak as you just noted to the formation of the conspiracy that the d.a.'s office wants the jury to buy into, but because at multiple points in time, he talked to trump directly including with respect to whether it was worth it to buy karen mcdougle's story at a point in time that enquirer ceo and chief content officer, dylan howard, had already flown to california to interview mcdougle about her story. decided essentially that she was credible after which point trump calls pecker and said what do you think we should do. i also thought that it was
what he said to todd blanche. joining us now, lisa rubin. so, lisa, i call it an explosive day in court because pecker goes into great detail about the relationship he had with michael cohen and what he believed michael cohen was doing. and also not to mention the relationship he had with donald trump and direct conversations he had with trump about what they were doing in the 2016 campaign. >> i think david pecker is a far more important witness that many people appreciate. not only...
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the fact that todd blanche isn't just his attorney here, he's also for two federal criminal cases. in florida and washington, d.c. so this relationship could set the stage for a long slog. not just in this courtroom, but a couple of others, that arguably have some higher consequences for the former president. how do you think their interactions here could play into those cases going forward and would you think blanche would be thinking about that? >> well, as jeremy points out, these differences between client and counsel, usually almost always occur outside of the presence of the jury. in some instances, it's very natural. the client has a lot on the line and if they don't think they're being fought for in the courtroom then they become very upset about that. but remember that donald trump always plays to a different audience than his attorneys in the courtroom. i think what todd blanche knows that being hostile and irritated and angry and sarcastic in the courtroom is not going to play out well with either the judge, who makes a lot of rulings about what evidence comes in and out
the fact that todd blanche isn't just his attorney here, he's also for two federal criminal cases. in florida and washington, d.c. so this relationship could set the stage for a long slog. not just in this courtroom, but a couple of others, that arguably have some higher consequences for the former president. how do you think their interactions here could play into those cases going forward and would you think blanche would be thinking about that? >> well, as jeremy points out, these...
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the headline was judge merchan's frustration with todd blanche, questioning his credibility with the court because of his inability to articulate on behalf of donald trump the post that he says that trump was directly responding to, as to why he felt he could attack the likes of michael cohen as well as stormy daniels. but also when he reposted others' posts about individuals like the jurors or stormy daniels or michael cohen, whether donald trump was in fact standing by those statements or endorsing them or approving of them. and that is where the judge was very specific in his frustrations with todd blanche, and so we could very well learn by day's end whether donald trump has violated and whether there's a fine or whether judge merchan as the prosecution would like, whether he will warn donald trump if he were to violate the gag order in the future he could potentially be put in jail through these proceedings. >> protecting jurors is a top priority. the judge has made that clear. what is your take on mr. trump's comments last night about the jury on that radio show? >> well, if yo
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since then, todd blanche has taken a backseat. i wonder if part of that is because he wants to reduce the visibility that he has in front of the judge and continually losing things in front of the judge in front of trump because trump and todd have this close relationship. if you see them in the southern district of florida, in the documents case, they are always laughing and joking and passing notes between each other. that was reduced as the week went on. >> we have the second contempt hearing for the additional four new violations of the gag order by donald trump coming up on thursday morning now and 9:30 but we've yet to get a ruling for the original contempt motions for the 10 violations. trump continues to violate the gag order. what is your theory as to why judge juan merchan has not issued a ruling yet ? >> i think , katie, we just don't know. there are a couple of possible different reasons. one is that this is a judge who, when faced with a decision about whether to enforce his gag order or not, is going to blink. maybe
since then, todd blanche has taken a backseat. i wonder if part of that is because he wants to reduce the visibility that he has in front of the judge and continually losing things in front of the judge in front of trump because trump and todd have this close relationship. if you see them in the southern district of florida, in the documents case, they are always laughing and joking and passing notes between each other. that was reduced as the week went on. >> we have the second contempt...
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and what's your reaction to his rebuke of todd blanche? >> well, one, not having credibility is another way of saying you're not telling the truth. and as a lawyer you never want to hear that from a judge particularly at the beginning of trial because that will stay in the judge's head, and that will be throughout the trial that the judge thinks you have no credibility. why he didn't issue the ruling i'm perplexed because this has been going on for over a week. this was a long date from last week. the judge put this on so you would expect the ruling was going to happen today. the only thing i can think is the judge has a written decision and that he was adding onto it after what happened at the hearing yesterday. but if it doesn't happen today, meaning the judge's ruling, i don't understand why. it's just giving donald trump more time to keep violating the order. >> all right. nbc news legal analyst catherine christian, i really do appreciate it. thank you so much for joining us this early in the morning. >>> before we go to break, preside
and what's your reaction to his rebuke of todd blanche? >> well, one, not having credibility is another way of saying you're not telling the truth. and as a lawyer you never want to hear that from a judge particularly at the beginning of trial because that will stay in the judge's head, and that will be throughout the trial that the judge thinks you have no credibility. why he didn't issue the ruling i'm perplexed because this has been going on for over a week. this was a long date from...
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and that's what the judge was signaling to todd blanche today. is that number one? this is a hearing. is your opportunity to present evidence. you could have presented donald trump could have said what he thought or what he meant or what he was trying to do. but for you to just make an argument without presenting that evidence that donald trump was, quote, trying very hard to comply with the court order or saying or saying that. the other thing that he said that i think really made the judge say you have no credibility with mirror, you are losing credibility. was when when when the defense attorney said look, the prosecution only asked for a couple of the tweets to be are the couple of the postings to be a violation. so therefore, they let other ones go. they must have waived the gag order, doesn't stand. that is not going to fly judge merchan's courtroom only he can say whether or not the gag order is imposed or whether it stands or whether it doesn't. and so the fact that he would make an argument like that trump's trying to it without without more jokes. sean sai
and that's what the judge was signaling to todd blanche today. is that number one? this is a hearing. is your opportunity to present evidence. you could have presented donald trump could have said what he thought or what he meant or what he was trying to do. but for you to just make an argument without presenting that evidence that donald trump was, quote, trying very hard to comply with the court order or saying or saying that. the other thing that he said that i think really made the judge...
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because the defense attorney todd blanche did have a strategy for this. it's important the take a look at what they're doing. he told the jury that, okay, if there are these papers in evidence, they still don't automatically implicate trump, because he had, quote, nothing to do with any of those 34 pieces of paper, except that he signed on to the checks in the white house while he was running the country. that's not a crime, he argued. so that is a denial that anything criminal happened. now, these type of denials that i'm telling you are not the only options. the next defense they have, you've certainly heard about, and i want to be clear. you can also think of this as a factual defense, because they argue if anything bad did happen, then michael cohen did it. not defendant trump. if anything happened, cohen did it. now here is how that defense works as a counterattack, because they said, quote, unbeknownst to trump, in all the years that cohen worked for him, cohen was also a criminal. now notice that is a little different than just saying nothing happe
because the defense attorney todd blanche did have a strategy for this. it's important the take a look at what they're doing. he told the jury that, okay, if there are these papers in evidence, they still don't automatically implicate trump, because he had, quote, nothing to do with any of those 34 pieces of paper, except that he signed on to the checks in the white house while he was running the country. that's not a crime, he argued. so that is a denial that anything criminal happened. now,...
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no evidence of that merchan one after todd blanche, the attorney, because trump's post was it not even a direct quote of what waters had said& rashawn ask your client manipulated what was said and put it in quotes. am i right? todd blanche replied, i wouldn't use the word manipulation, your honore, but the rest of the quote was not part of the quote or shawn's point is at trump, isn't merely re-posting the views of other people. he's writing out original thoughts, how damaging was this all do you think? >> yeah. i mean, first was it a defense attorney and the prosecutor. sometimes you have to think on your feet, so that's obviously what blanche was trying to do in part but it is really really right here as a lawyer, you do not want to hear the judge say you lack credibility. that's devastating.& really when you look at this so i'm looking down, he added words about liberal activists in order to get on the trump jury. and that's something not accurate and it's really devastating, not to the trump wall. it is devastating for trump inside the courtroom, but it's differentiate the two. you
no evidence of that merchan one after todd blanche, the attorney, because trump's post was it not even a direct quote of what waters had said& rashawn ask your client manipulated what was said and put it in quotes. am i right? todd blanche replied, i wouldn't use the word manipulation, your honore, but the rest of the quote was not part of the quote or shawn's point is at trump, isn't merely re-posting the views of other people. he's writing out original thoughts, how damaging was this all...
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and todd blanche, donald trump's lawyer was mocking several elements of their case saying there is nothing illegal about influencing an election, it is called democracy, he said. he also said the catch and skill -- catch and kill scheme, nothing wrong with that either. he put distance between trump and falsifying records. saying he was so far up in the organization that he did not have his hand in the details. another key piece we will see is in trying to say that the prosecution's case is built on unreliable witnesses. for michael cohen, they painted him as someone that has a vendetta against donald trump wanting to see him in an orange jumpsuit. they say stormy daniels is biased and has made a career of going after donald trump here host: reporting from new york. it will be a busy next few months for mr. trump as he heads towards an election rematch with president biden in november. on top of new york he is facing three other criminal trials. in georgia, donald trump and 18 others were charged with trying to overturn his loss in that state and there are also two federal criminal trials.
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and so is todd blanche trying to it take fire away from his client? i don't know. but it is definitely a situation that i wouldn't want to be in. >> i mean, i look at this and i think the only real legitimate defense, as i see it too, this is to something that won't work with this judges to attack the breadth of the order itself. and i think that there is an argument to be made there, but it's not going to work until you get up on an appeal. >> yeah. real quick. four, let you go. david pecker was on stand for two-and-a-half hours yesterday. we'll be back on the sanne. he's expected to be on thursday after everything you saw from david pecker in from the line of questioning from prosecutors, what do you think what do you think he
and so is todd blanche trying to it take fire away from his client? i don't know. but it is definitely a situation that i wouldn't want to be in. >> i mean, i look at this and i think the only real legitimate defense, as i see it too, this is to something that won't work with this judges to attack the breadth of the order itself. and i think that there is an argument to be made there, but it's not going to work until you get up on an appeal. >> yeah. real quick. four, let you go....
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. >> trump defense lawyer todd blanche told the jury that the former president, though, did not violate the law. >> jon: mm! that's right! it's the classic case of "the state of new york vs. nuh-uh." oh, no, you didn't. i think it's pretty clear, he did it. this trial will obviously be a test of the fairness of the american legal system. but it's also a test of the media's ability to cover donald trump in a responsible way, a task they have acknowledged they have performed poorly in the past. >> i think to the degree that the media had lessons to learn in '16, they seemed to have been learned. >> it was irresponsible for cable news networks to give donald trump hours and hours of free air time. >> way too much speculation and liberal wishful thinking in attempts to connect dots that did not connect. >> it's the media's responsibility to not get distracted. >> i think we were much too busy chasing after shiny objects. >> all of us have learned some very valuable lessons from the last couple of years in delineating what's significant, what's important. >> jon: so brave. well done. and i t
. >> trump defense lawyer todd blanche told the jury that the former president, though, did not violate the law. >> jon: mm! that's right! it's the classic case of "the state of new york vs. nuh-uh." oh, no, you didn't. i think it's pretty clear, he did it. this trial will obviously be a test of the fairness of the american legal system. but it's also a test of the media's ability to cover donald trump in a responsible way, a task they have acknowledged they have performed...
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his former colleague, todd blanche, is donald trump's top trial lawyer. meanwhile, the witnesses stormy daniels — the adult film star — who aledges she receieved hush money payment from michael cohen, a lawyer from the trump 0rgnaisation just before the 2016 election, to keep her silent about her claimed affair with trump. and michael cohen pleaded guilty to making that hush money payment to stormy daniels. and we may see karen mcdougal — a playboy model who also claims to have had an illicit affair with donald trump — also says she was paid hush money by american media incorporated. and this is david pecker, the then—chairman and ceo of american media incorporated. he was part of a catch—and—kill scheme in 2016, where he'd buy the rights to stories that made trump look bad and then would refuse to publish them. 0ur correspondent nada tawfik has been following today's events and told us what we heard. a court has finished for the day, it stopped early for passover because a juror had a dental emergency. but we've been updating on it all and
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i highly doubt he'll do it, but you heardgh a lot of speech fro todd blanche in the opening statement. i don't know how they're going to prove thelic of knowledge on mr. gtrump's behalf, but one w you could do it is to not testify. >> in the list of potential witnesses there are some high level trump organization officials who areh prepared toy testify who presumably would further corroborate the idea that donald trump knew what he wasob doing.ea iha mean they have -- is there witness that you've seen from the list of people brought to the stand that could be helpful to ldtrump's case at this point? >> helpful, not necessarily. if you have a witness saying donald trumpwi was meticulous looking over his checks and signing his checks and he wasn't a passive player here, that's not helpful to you. josh steinglass, and chris, it's not their first rodeo. they know what they're doing. i'm over confident donald trump is in trouble. it's not their verdict, it's the prosecution's verdict. it's not an easy thing. that is why how important david pecker is to give credibility in validating what t
i highly doubt he'll do it, but you heardgh a lot of speech fro todd blanche in the opening statement. i don't know how they're going to prove thelic of knowledge on mr. gtrump's behalf, but one w you could do it is to not testify. >> in the list of potential witnesses there are some high level trump organization officials who areh prepared toy testify who presumably would further corroborate the idea that donald trump knew what he wasob doing.ea iha mean they have -- is there witness...
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blanche's mischaracterizations of pee. afterme.second witness karen mal former playboy playmate who alleged she had a 10 month affair with donald trump and she was paid $150,000 according to prosecutors by the national inquirer to keep that story out of the public eye. expected to detail not only her alleged affair but how prosecutors say she was muzzled not to damage the former president's campaign back in 2016. so, court starts in a couple hours we'll have the very latest. back to you. >> brian: you can have an nda. that's common and allowed. the whole thing is the second half of your sentence did. they do it to help his election fortunes, perhaps. and then what bank account did he write the check from, his personal account or from the -- or from the campaign account, right? >> ainsley: eric, couldn't he also add on that, couldn't he take the stand and say. >> brian: karen macdougall? >> ainsley: talk about the women. what man if he has made this mistake wants the world to know about this? it had nothing to do with the e
blanche's mischaracterizations of pee. afterme.second witness karen mal former playboy playmate who alleged she had a 10 month affair with donald trump and she was paid $150,000 according to prosecutors by the national inquirer to keep that story out of the public eye. expected to detail not only her alleged affair but how prosecutors say she was muzzled not to damage the former president's campaign back in 2016. so, court starts in a couple hours we'll have the very latest. back to you....
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in his defense of the ex-president trump's attorney todd blanche had a testy exchange from the judge. said you are losing all credible with the court which goes without saying not a good thing to be losing this early in a criminal trial. we're still waiting for the judge's decision on the gag cord order. it could come out at any time today. that's where we start with our favorite reporter as friends. former top official, legal analyst andrew weissmann is back and legal analyst charles coleman is here and back again after being inside of the courthouse today, "new york times" reporter susan craig. and my friend and colleague, nbc news correspondent vaughn hillyard who has been at the courthouse all day. i could see the stars from here. this is really important stuff. so just start telling me what happened. >> well, i mean, it was a day. i just sort of feel like this is a play we've been waiting for and the curtain went up and it was in the detail that david pecker just calmly laid out. he was such a credible witness. just to go through the story with the doorman and how they went back
in his defense of the ex-president trump's attorney todd blanche had a testy exchange from the judge. said you are losing all credible with the court which goes without saying not a good thing to be losing this early in a criminal trial. we're still waiting for the judge's decision on the gag cord order. it could come out at any time today. that's where we start with our favorite reporter as friends. former top official, legal analyst andrew weissmann is back and legal analyst charles coleman...
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and that was constant whispering quick consultations, decision, i think at one point whether todd blanche was going to do a cross-examined termination on a witness who had kept the transcripts of depositions, decided with trump, decided not to so very involved throughout today, but not but there was no testing is at least that i could see from my vantage point between trump and his attorneys, whole notes, the contrast between the former president in this trial and pass trials. i think there's a contrast with the attorneys as well, both in terms of where they came from, the resume, the todd blanche brings to the table here. it's widely regarded. i know elie talks about his time, the sovereign or southern district of new york in the teams that are often put together, there were todd blanche comes from but also it is just a very different moment. but the stakes are certainly significantly higher given the fact that is a criminal trial. and i think what you see from the president is or foreign president is, at least in some part in potent. that's better need reflective of what is legal team i
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one thing that stands out to me is todd blanche had a really rough day yesterday arguing against violations of the gag order and, in particular, there was a moment where he was forced to concede that one of trump's posts was, in fact, a lie. it was when trump said, look what was just found, and he was referring to stormy daniels' statement in january of 2018. the court said to mr. blanche, is it true that this was just found? no, your honor, everybody knows that this wasn't just found. that's of course not true. if you're in a position six into the trial where you have to undermine the voracity of your client's statements in order to rescue them from criminal contempt, that's not a good place to be. the other thing that really stood out to me is david pecker because he has the sort of demeanor that he is believable, he's credible, he's affable, he even compliments donald trump are frequently, and yet you have to remove yourself from the proceedings a little bit to see, oh, my gosh, a lot of what he confessed to is totally bonkers. you got a crash course in tabloid or checkbook journalism ye
one thing that stands out to me is todd blanche had a really rough day yesterday arguing against violations of the gag order and, in particular, there was a moment where he was forced to concede that one of trump's posts was, in fact, a lie. it was when trump said, look what was just found, and he was referring to stormy daniels' statement in january of 2018. the court said to mr. blanche, is it true that this was just found? no, your honor, everybody knows that this wasn't just found. that's...
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i wanted to go in reverse, and ask you about todd blanches opening statement. he made some pretty bold statements in the hearing, he basically denied trumps alleged affair with daniels. that's not part of the necessary legal argument, but does that matter? could it come back to bite him? >> when you are on trial, prosecution or defense, you need to be extremely careful about what you promise a jury. what happens is both sides listen very carefully to that, and it will come back, if you have promised something that did not come to play, you are going to hear that. the statement that denying the tryst with stormy daniels, i'm not exactly sure how that will come into evidence. stormy daniels is clearly going to say it happens, donald trump, who everyone thinks is not going to testify, i'm sure the prosecution would love it if he did, for the same reason he never met with us in the mueller investigation, i think there's no way in god's green earth he's going to testify, i don't know how that's going to come into play. that's the kind of thing where it may be that t
i wanted to go in reverse, and ask you about todd blanches opening statement. he made some pretty bold statements in the hearing, he basically denied trumps alleged affair with daniels. that's not part of the necessary legal argument, but does that matter? could it come back to bite him? >> when you are on trial, prosecution or defense, you need to be extremely careful about what you promise a jury. what happens is both sides listen very carefully to that, and it will come back, if you...
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trump's lawyer todd blanche said his client has been careful with his words. to that, the judge said, that's just not credible. maurice? >> maurice: robert costa once agai again at the criminal courthouse in lower manhattan tonight, thank you. now to those escalating clashes and threats of violence on college campuses. protests are growing as more students across the country are staging demonstrations against israel's war in gaza. cbs's nancy chen tonight on what protesters are demanding. >> we are not afraid of you! >> reporter: pro-palestinian demonstrators clashed with police at cal poly humboldt in northern california after a group of students used chairs and other furniture to barricade themselves inside one of the school's main buildings. at nyu, nypd officers in riot gear cleared out a pro-palestinian encampment last night after students defied the university's order to leave. >> we want to see an acknowledgment from our university that there is a genocide happening. >> leave the plaza now or you will be arrested for trespassing. >> reporter: 120 people
trump's lawyer todd blanche said his client has been careful with his words. to that, the judge said, that's just not credible. maurice? >> maurice: robert costa once agai again at the criminal courthouse in lower manhattan tonight, thank you. now to those escalating clashes and threats of violence on college campuses. protests are growing as more students across the country are staging demonstrations against israel's war in gaza. cbs's nancy chen tonight on what protesters are demanding....
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trump's lawyer, todd blanche, said his client's being careful with his words. to that, the judge said, "that's just not credible." maurice. >> robert costa, thank you. >>> now to those escalating clashes and threats of violence on college campuses. protests are growing as more students across the country are staging demonstrations against israel's war in gaza. cbs's nancy chen tonight on what protesters are demanding. >> we are not afraid of you! >> reporter: pro-palestinian demonstrators clashed with police at cal poly humboldt in northern california after a group of students used chairs and other furniture to barricade themselves inside one of the school's main buildings. at nyu, nypd officers in riot gear cleared out a pro-palestinian encampment last night after students defied the university's order to leave. >> we want to see an acknowledgement from our university that there is a genocide happening. >> leave the plaza now, or you'll be arrested for trespass. >> reporter: 120 people were arrested. >> free palestine! free palestine! >> if you're going to hos
trump's lawyer, todd blanche, said his client's being careful with his words. to that, the judge said, "that's just not credible." maurice. >> robert costa, thank you. >>> now to those escalating clashes and threats of violence on college campuses. protests are growing as more students across the country are staging demonstrations against israel's war in gaza. cbs's nancy chen tonight on what protesters are demanding. >> we are not afraid of you! >>...
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todd blanche and donald trump passed notes and whispered while it was happening. they introduced it today for the reasons that charlie's just describing. i was talking about in the last hour, i remember talking to a source who was in the room when trump found out about "access hollywood." and in the room they thought it was over. they thought that pence could maybe take -- i mean that pence would assume the spot at the top of the ticket. and now we are all numb to the idea that anything could damage trump because we've seen his base's sort of velcro relationship with him. but that wasn't known at the time. and there was a real belief, he had had his -- he'd talked about megyn kelly having blood coming out of her eyes and everywhere, "access hollywood" tape came out after that, he'd been incredibly misogynistic toward hillary clinton in all the debates, and then "access hollywood" tape breaks. the hush money scheme, the crimes happen after that. talk about the timeline as an important -- important enough to mention in opening statements. >> well, i've said many tim
todd blanche and donald trump passed notes and whispered while it was happening. they introduced it today for the reasons that charlie's just describing. i was talking about in the last hour, i remember talking to a source who was in the room when trump found out about "access hollywood." and in the room they thought it was over. they thought that pence could maybe take -- i mean that pence would assume the spot at the top of the ticket. and now we are all numb to the idea that...
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the judge didn't rule today, but seemed exasperated, telling lead defense attorney todd blanche, "you are losing all credibility with the court." minutes later during a break, mr. trump back on truth social, falsely writing the judge had taken away his right to free speech. "this is a kangaroo court." >> and laura, you were in the courtroom today. what were some of your impressions? >> reporter: well, lester, this jury is engaged. they're paying attention, they're looking at the exhibits on the screen in front of them. they're listening carefully to the witness, david pecker. some of them i even saw taking notes. and they will hear more from pecker when he testifies again on thursday. lester? >> laura jarrett tonight, thank you. >>> tonight's other top story, the growing number of pro-palestinian demonstrations and people being arrested on america's college campuses from coast-to-coast, and there is concerns over anti-semitic rhetoric. erin mclaughlin now with late developments for us. >> shame on you, shame on you! >> reporter: clashes and arrests from the streets of new york to the
the judge didn't rule today, but seemed exasperated, telling lead defense attorney todd blanche, "you are losing all credibility with the court." minutes later during a break, mr. trump back on truth social, falsely writing the judge had taken away his right to free speech. "this is a kangaroo court." >> and laura, you were in the courtroom today. what were some of your impressions? >> reporter: well, lester, this jury is engaged. they're paying attention,...
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in his opening statement, defense attorney todd blanche insisting, "president trump is innocent. president trump did not commit any crimes." "i have a spoiler alert," he told the jury. "there is nothing wrong with trying to influence an election. it's called democracy." "there is nothing illegal about entering into a non-disclosure agreement," he continued. "period." he said trump was unaware of any effort to camouflage the payment to daniels as a business expense. and he told the jury, michael cohen, a key prosecution witness, has "an obsession with getting trump, he cannot be trusted." but prosecutors insist the alleged criminal conspiracy to protect trump involved others including their first witness, david pecker, the former "national enquirer" publisher who once called trump a personal friend. as pecker took the stand, trump leaned forward, arms crossed, an angry look on his face. pecker has acknowledged buying negative stories about the candidate only to bury them, a practice known as catch-and-kill. on the stand, pecker was blunt, "we used checkbook journalism. we paid for
in his opening statement, defense attorney todd blanche insisting, "president trump is innocent. president trump did not commit any crimes." "i have a spoiler alert," he told the jury. "there is nothing wrong with trying to influence an election. it's called democracy." "there is nothing illegal about entering into a non-disclosure agreement," he continued. "period." he said trump was unaware of any effort to camouflage the payment to daniels as...
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blanch stumbled and couldn't provide that supporting evidence at which point the judge was completely frustrated saying you have lost all credibility with the court. you can guess how the judge the leaning. christian: remains to be seen what he made of today's statement outside court. let's turn to the evidence being presented by david pecker. he did acknowledge he was involved in this catch and kill policy. prosecutors say he was the eyes and ears for donald trump to try and prevent these negative stories coming tout. what did we learn and was it a strong case that the prosecutors put forward? >> i think david pecker is key to the kind of idea of intent here. donald trump's team has said in their opening statements that donald trump didn't pay the hush money payment to stormy daniels because of the election. it was all about protecting his family, his reputation and his brand. what we heard from david pecker was very different. although he incident get to the stormy daniels payment yet, he outlined several parts of this scheme and he said it all began when donald trump and his former
blanch stumbled and couldn't provide that supporting evidence at which point the judge was completely frustrated saying you have lost all credibility with the court. you can guess how the judge the leaning. christian: remains to be seen what he made of today's statement outside court. let's turn to the evidence being presented by david pecker. he did acknowledge he was involved in this catch and kill policy. prosecutors say he was the eyes and ears for donald trump to try and prevent these...
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. >> let me ask you, too, about the relationship as you viewed it, between todd blanche, his key lawyer, and donald trump, himself, because there was a large story in "the new york times" today about how trump is getting frustrated, we have seen this before, right. in the past with donald trump, he wants his lawyers to do what he's going to do there, this push and pull. how do you appease your client, but also do what you think is going to get your client acquitted? did you see anything telling between the two of them? >> well, they were conversing almost like normal today, as i would describe it. this is, as you know, a defendant who -- >> did we lose his mic internally or do we have a problem here? >> i can hear you, can you hear me? all right, i'm going to keep going. i heard chris ask about the microphone, i'm being told i can be heard. we can see defendant trump who is much more active than most defendants in the legal setting, speaking, having side bars. at one point i could see his lawyer blanche kind of covering his mouth, so that the internal cameras that are used inside the co
. >> let me ask you, too, about the relationship as you viewed it, between todd blanche, his key lawyer, and donald trump, himself, because there was a large story in "the new york times" today about how trump is getting frustrated, we have seen this before, right. in the past with donald trump, he wants his lawyers to do what he's going to do there, this push and pull. how do you appease your client, but also do what you think is going to get your client acquitted? did you see...