broder said, fight promoters. and this is just good box office, so it doesn't surprise me that the media wants, it's good box office, but it is the time when most voters actually two i mean, you see the numbers >> people really do 80,000,070, >> 7,080 million. what >> gets those numbers other than the super >> bowl anymore? and this is the one, but this is the one moment where people really are going to be focusing on what these two people are saying. and yes, is trumping wrangle proof clearly not. i mean, look what happened to chris. i mean, it's hard oh but it is important that he actually sit and debate present >> totally agree like we should, we should be pushing for the debates and the idea that like the news media has to weigh in to protect the american public from what donald trump has to say is what i think is called one way, nobody is saying we shouldn't err the debates if they happen. but i guess to take david brokers line and it's a good line. should we be promoter, should we be egging them on and putti