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i want to thank the cdc, dr. walensky the team there who contributed a lot of science to go deep in some of the data to help the report group understand some of the nuances that was going on behind the scene, in a really honest and candid way laid out a appraisal of what they have learned from their internal review on what was going on in the agency. several conversations with senior leaders, which included dr. walensky, we could not of had a balance report if we did not have a broadened perspective. the big picture here, we all see the need or a reset of the agency. some of the reset has to be structural, some of it needs to be activities that only congress can really manage. that has to do with healthy budget structure is decided and the -- that has to do with how the budget structure is decided and modernization. looking at how the cdc can take advantage of the data science and the opportunities to build a better data system. and really completely trimmed directories that they have already started. i do want t
i want to thank the cdc, dr. walensky the team there who contributed a lot of science to go deep in some of the data to help the report group understand some of the nuances that was going on behind the scene, in a really honest and candid way laid out a appraisal of what they have learned from their internal review on what was going on in the agency. several conversations with senior leaders, which included dr. walensky, we could not of had a balance report if we did not have a broadened...
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there cdc censor posts. >>ce we're all speaking to same thing, they are situates under court litigation. >> did the cdc recommend facebook or other company censure posts suggesting that vaccine did not prevent. >> most important to cdc, was to get information about how well the vaccines were working and how safe they are. main of the questions all of the questions you are asking are along the same lines, they are under litigation in the court. >> one e-mail a cdc official told a twitter employee that cdc is working on a project with census to leverage their infrastructure to identify, and monitor social media for vaccine misinformation they would like theot opportunity to work with twitter trust team on regular bases to see what they are seeing. did the cdc work on a regular basis with twitter andeg other companies to monitor or censure vaccine misinformation. >> the answer is the same, that is the same line of questioning, we want too get important information to people to favor vaccines, they were working.
there cdc censor posts. >>ce we're all speaking to same thing, they are situates under court litigation. >> did the cdc recommend facebook or other company censure posts suggesting that vaccine did not prevent. >> most important to cdc, was to get information about how well the vaccines were working and how safe they are. main of the questions all of the questions you are asking are along the same lines, they are under litigation in the court. >> one e-mail a cdc...
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guest: the cdc, dr. walensky referred to this, they did its own review of what went wrong called moving forward. unfortunately, i think they misdiagnosed the problem they had. they said they had problems with communication this was brought on by insufficient funding and that's the common bureaucratic trope. they say we need more money and what we are proposing is instead of blindly increasing the amount of funding, look carefully at what you need. childhood vaccinations are very important and the cdc should be focused on that but there is a whole host of things they should not be focused on which is distracting them from the important initiatives like childhood vaccinations. during the pandemic, that moving forward report boasts that in april, 2020 one, shortly after dr. walensky came into her position as the director, she was bringing on programs dealing with systemic racism and ensuring that health equity would be infused throughout these -- the agency. april, 2021, we were struggling to rollout the va
guest: the cdc, dr. walensky referred to this, they did its own review of what went wrong called moving forward. unfortunately, i think they misdiagnosed the problem they had. they said they had problems with communication this was brought on by insufficient funding and that's the common bureaucratic trope. they say we need more money and what we are proposing is instead of blindly increasing the amount of funding, look carefully at what you need. childhood vaccinations are very important and...
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it is a structural week this that the cdc -- weakness that the cdc is not there. hhs and congress and advocacy groups are in the kind of force needed. there are a few ways to do that. bottom line is, you have to show up and you have to be there. hundreds of trips don't replace having high level staff there, getting to know people. when the director mentioned in the past quarter he has had lunch with every single congressional staff member on one of the committees that authorized or funded it, that is one center but i haven't on that. no one at cdc has done that for the agency as a whole and that is the kind of thing that has made it. >> you can think about this on multiple levels. when i started as cdc director, the washington office was in the hump rebuilding and a decision was made without consultation that perhaps the cdc should be moved someplace else. so it was moved to co-locate with the headquarters, which is a few blocks away. but a few blocks away from the hump rebuilding, you might as well be on a remote island. for some time we were able to maintain a p
it is a structural week this that the cdc -- weakness that the cdc is not there. hhs and congress and advocacy groups are in the kind of force needed. there are a few ways to do that. bottom line is, you have to show up and you have to be there. hundreds of trips don't replace having high level staff there, getting to know people. when the director mentioned in the past quarter he has had lunch with every single congressional staff member on one of the committees that authorized or funded it,...
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the cdc. the agency's guidance has far-reaching implications affecting not just public health but our day-to-day lives and overall well-being of our children. it is imperative that we make a commitment to cooperate. to many of our inquiries the president an adequate answer to hold it nor do i think we all agree being transparent with us the americans that we represent is foundational to restoring trust. i know this is your first time testifying before congress is director of the cdc. appearing is more than a perceived formality. it's a pivotal moment for accountability and reassessment. the insights to share today will only shed light on past decisions that will take a step toward rebuilding trust. this hearing is an opportunity to share how you will use lessons learned and apply them to the respiratory illness season as well as future decisions by the cdc. you have an opportunity to show the american people hiding a plan to lead as director and we look forward to your testimony and hearing ab
the cdc. the agency's guidance has far-reaching implications affecting not just public health but our day-to-day lives and overall well-being of our children. it is imperative that we make a commitment to cooperate. to many of our inquiries the president an adequate answer to hold it nor do i think we all agree being transparent with us the americans that we represent is foundational to restoring trust. i know this is your first time testifying before congress is director of the cdc. appearing...
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the cdc does not have that. we need to be able to give them the tools if we want them to move as quickly as i think we all do. and finally back to your point about budget, the cdc's budget issues in 13 different treasury accounts, 160 different specific lines. they do not have these flexibility to move things around. we have asked in this report for congress to consider a real change in the way that they provide budget flexibility as to the cdc. i think that the director walensky has called for this a number of times in the last year, and that final part of that is making sure that the cdc has the flexibility that it needs at the start of the crisis. there is certainly a fund that was created for that purpose but has not been provided resources for the cdc to do that work so at the beginning of any crisis the cdc finds itself having a real struggle to spend money that the need to to get out of the field. that's a very quick wrap up of the different categories and recommendations that we made in the report and ho
the cdc does not have that. we need to be able to give them the tools if we want them to move as quickly as i think we all do. and finally back to your point about budget, the cdc's budget issues in 13 different treasury accounts, 160 different specific lines. they do not have these flexibility to move things around. we have asked in this report for congress to consider a real change in the way that they provide budget flexibility as to the cdc. i think that the director walensky has called for...
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cdc is opposing this bill. we have seen how cdc guidance can affect millions of americans of day lives. fda uses a similar approach. >> i don't think that there st a one size fits all for guidance that cdc offers, like this from malaria it was at not an emergency but we needed to move quickly to prevent an emergency, right now we have guidance for feedback, i hear intend of what you want making sure we hear feedback it important to me, we want to bake that in i don't think -- there is a one size fits all. but i heart you on the intent and hope we're showing we're fulfilling that. >> i want to work with you on this, i believe good guidance is important and it would go a long way toward building trust. >> mr. tomko for 5 minutes of questions. >> thank you, madame chair. >> seasonal rsvcauses mild symptom but some cases it be serious and hospitalization. infants and young children are at higher risk from serious illness. first year there is an rsvvaccine for youngest children, that is an advancement, dr. koen what
cdc is opposing this bill. we have seen how cdc guidance can affect millions of americans of day lives. fda uses a similar approach. >> i don't think that there st a one size fits all for guidance that cdc offers, like this from malaria it was at not an emergency but we needed to move quickly to prevent an emergency, right now we have guidance for feedback, i hear intend of what you want making sure we hear feedback it important to me, we want to bake that in i don't think -- there is a...
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and then post pandemic cdc faces the app hill battle. the agency planned for overhaul comes as public trust drops. over the course of the pandemic public confidence in public health agency cdc has dropped significantly with the communication and guidance breaking down along party lines. in december 202073 percent of people surveyed from kaiser family foundation said they had a great deal or a fair amount of trust in the cdc to provide reliable information of covid-19 vaccines. by april 2022 that number had dropped to 64 percent declaring confident on —- democrats amy had confidence in 41 percent offi republicans. if you research surveys released show nearly half of people survey say public health agencies including the cdc is only done a fair or a poor job in responding to the pandemic. many respondents said they felt political pressures conway have good policy and decision-making for public health. the agency we know as cdc launched 1946 as the communicable disease center located in atlanta originally charged with the transmission in
and then post pandemic cdc faces the app hill battle. the agency planned for overhaul comes as public trust drops. over the course of the pandemic public confidence in public health agency cdc has dropped significantly with the communication and guidance breaking down along party lines. in december 202073 percent of people surveyed from kaiser family foundation said they had a great deal or a fair amount of trust in the cdc to provide reliable information of covid-19 vaccines. by april 2022...
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cdc. .dr. henry lochte assigned described the level of access as uncommon. ms. weingarten testified and provided the cdc with line by line edits and received an advance copy of the full internal draft guidance and some other edits were even accepted. this level of access is uncommon. the afc suggested getting a closure trigger to automatically shut schools down. even though the specific edit was not accepted the others that were had severe consequences. i believe it's appropriate for the aftc pc guidance not to give you for the cdc medical and scientific advice. drug use, violence, mental health issues among our nation children skyrocketed. test scores have severely fallen. someme will attempt to to undermine the select subcommittee separates by saying hindsight is 2020 or that we are playing monday morning quarterback but we will investigate the covid 19 pandemic. this requires looking back in order to stay ahead and requires to evaluate how decisions were made and how they were implement
cdc. .dr. henry lochte assigned described the level of access as uncommon. ms. weingarten testified and provided the cdc with line by line edits and received an advance copy of the full internal draft guidance and some other edits were even accepted. this level of access is uncommon. the afc suggested getting a closure trigger to automatically shut schools down. even though the specific edit was not accepted the others that were had severe consequences. i believe it's appropriate for the aftc...
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if the cdc. wants its credibility back, you've got to have a mea culpa moment you're in the perfect position to do it because you had nothing to do with their decisions at the time, so there's no reason to defend it. the data is the data. the data is very clear now. you can blame it on hindsight, you can blame it on, you know, we didn't know as much as we know now at the time. you can do all sorts of things, but you can tell the truth, and the public will start trusting the cdc again. okay to say it didn't make sense to shut down the schools. didn't make any sense to do major lockdowns. the data shows that now. doesn't make sense to mask kids. data says that now. it's okay say it. and the public will reward for -- you for it. because it's pretty dangerous thinking about the future when maybe -- even if we do have a disease that has a 50 president kill raid rate of 8-year-olds -- rate of 8-year-olds, but you know what in they're not going to trust you because you refused to even say that you were
if the cdc. wants its credibility back, you've got to have a mea culpa moment you're in the perfect position to do it because you had nothing to do with their decisions at the time, so there's no reason to defend it. the data is the data. the data is very clear now. you can blame it on hindsight, you can blame it on, you know, we didn't know as much as we know now at the time. you can do all sorts of things, but you can tell the truth, and the public will start trusting the cdc again. okay to...
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to the 51st engaged in the cdc or did the cdc reach out to you? >> what essentially happened, sir, was that we were talking to the biden transition team before he was sworn into office. >> did they reach out to you? >> yes, the biden transition team reached out to us. >> did that include the next cdc director? >> >> or anybody who want to work for cdc? >> you know something. i don't want to speculate. there were lots of meetings with lots of people. i don't know. i just don't. now >> when it was the first time you engage with cdc in any way since you perform directly? >> the first time was when they asked us to do the zoom -- i think the first time -- i'm 65 years old. i don't remember everything anymore. i'm sorry. i think the first time was -- the president was -- >> did they reach out to you or did you reach out to them? i know they asked for guidance. >> they reached out -- my recollection is that they set of this january 29th half an hour conference. that's my recollection. >> yes for no. did that include any direct interaction with the cdc d
to the 51st engaged in the cdc or did the cdc reach out to you? >> what essentially happened, sir, was that we were talking to the biden transition team before he was sworn into office. >> did they reach out to you? >> yes, the biden transition team reached out to us. >> did that include the next cdc director? >> >> or anybody who want to work for cdc? >> you know something. i don't want to speculate. there were lots of meetings with lots of people. i...
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and our cdc review and cdc moving forward. part of our organizational structures actually streamlined where local public health departments are from. i can tell you as part of the 3.2 billion dollars that went out for workforce granted and just go to states a. want to state to local jurisdictions for exactly the reason that you listed. >> i think early on local public how that has the trust of the cdc is lacking. >> gentlelady eels back. recognize woman from maryland. >> thank you very much, mister chairman. thanks to all of you. i know this is part of your job coming up here to testify. i still feel guilty when he spent three hours here away from your primary responsibility. thank you for your testimony. dr. walensky, i was gonna talk with you a bit more out of the data picture. i know the answer to china questions already. today about that. i want to understand a bit better where the line is in terms of being able to build a sophisticated and as accurate as it can be model or platform for both tracking and forecasting infect
and our cdc review and cdc moving forward. part of our organizational structures actually streamlined where local public health departments are from. i can tell you as part of the 3.2 billion dollars that went out for workforce granted and just go to states a. want to state to local jurisdictions for exactly the reason that you listed. >> i think early on local public how that has the trust of the cdc is lacking. >> gentlelady eels back. recognize woman from maryland. >> thank...
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audio-visual aids for training are planned and produced by cdc. all types of printed material are also available. training at all levels is carried on in the diagnosis prevention and control of communicable diseases. cdc is one of the task forces of the public health service a reservoir of engineering scientific and medical knowledge ready to help each state in its fight against communicable diseases. today as yesterday the challenge continues and opportunity is great for doctors for nurses for scientists and for many others with the ambition and with the training to accept that challenge. well, for the next several weeks here on american history, we'll be looking back at speeches that defined a
audio-visual aids for training are planned and produced by cdc. all types of printed material are also available. training at all levels is carried on in the diagnosis prevention and control of communicable diseases. cdc is one of the task forces of the public health service a reservoir of engineering scientific and medical knowledge ready to help each state in its fight against communicable diseases. today as yesterday the challenge continues and opportunity is great for doctors for nurses for...
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the cdc. >> thank you for for the opy to talk aboutut the future. i share we really need to make sure again that we we're identifying and responding to health t threats, that we are making sure that we are getting evidence-based butn commonsense solutions for folks to protect themselves. i want to spent a little time and we create a system that brings health delivery and public health closer together. i thinknk silos were not our friends during the pandemic, and i'm working hard to make sure that we m are bringing cdc and public health, state and local, closer to our health delivery system. i want to make sure i don't lose the opportunity to talk about the importance of the public health workforce and needing people to the experts and do this work as a go forward. so making sure we are training the next generation of experts in public health, but that does require us to continue to work with congress to makeor sure we have the right authorities to bring in the talent that we need as we go forw
the cdc. >> thank you for for the opy to talk aboutut the future. i share we really need to make sure again that we we're identifying and responding to health t threats, that we are making sure that we are getting evidence-based butn commonsense solutions for folks to protect themselves. i want to spent a little time and we create a system that brings health delivery and public health closer together. i thinknk silos were not our friends during the pandemic, and i'm working hard to make...
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or the cdc reach out to you? >> what essentially happens there is we were talking to the biden transition team before he was sworn into office. >> did they return to you? >> know the biden transition team reached out to us the progressive that include the cdc h director quest or anybody you want to work for cdc? lots of people in the room. i don't know. >> get that. you engage with in any way they perform directly? >> a foot they asked us to do the zoom i think the first time. i am 65 years old i don't remember everything anymore. i am sorry. i think the first time. remember i know they asked for guidance. >> they reached out -- my recollection is they set up january 20 died half an hour conference call. but as my recollection. >> again esr noted that include any direct interaction with cdc director? >> meaning did i talk to her directly? >> you are your staff? work that day we talk to her directly. closeout that was vsm at that time? a cleaner with her e-mails, phone calls? consumer couple of phonene call. but w
or the cdc reach out to you? >> what essentially happens there is we were talking to the biden transition team before he was sworn into office. >> did they return to you? >> know the biden transition team reached out to us the progressive that include the cdc h director quest or anybody you want to work for cdc? lots of people in the room. i don't know. >> get that. you engage with in any way they perform directly? >> a foot they asked us to do the zoom i think the...
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cdc has a tough job. public trust and confidence and what the organization does is so vitally important and i know you know that. the american rescue plan i asked almost unilaterally by democrat colleagues that included a staggering $47.8 billion of new spending for activities to detect, diagnose, trace and monitor stars covid -- two and covid-19 infections and related strategies to mitigate the spread of covid-19. in addition the law provided cdc 1 billion for vaccine confidence. would you say this was successful building confidence in the vaccine? in. >> thank you for that question, what we don't know is whatin happened in the absence. >> no but you think it helped? >> i know we've been using thein resources -- >> but did it improve the confidence level of the public? >> compared to where it otherwise would have been, yes. >> well, i'm not sure we got our money's worth because in my district people tell me not only are they losing confidence in the covid vaccines but now other more proven vaccines as we
cdc has a tough job. public trust and confidence and what the organization does is so vitally important and i know you know that. the american rescue plan i asked almost unilaterally by democrat colleagues that included a staggering $47.8 billion of new spending for activities to detect, diagnose, trace and monitor stars covid -- two and covid-19 infections and related strategies to mitigate the spread of covid-19. in addition the law provided cdc 1 billion for vaccine confidence. would you say...
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cdc tried as well. we get back to some of the failures in all of these areas, but while we have the best treatments and vaccines, by 2020, by late 2020 largest available good diagnostic test, we did have some real problems in translating that into impact. part of that, i knew the cdc has been playing for a big talk more about that, too. part of it goes beyond that because any infectious disease threat going for required different kind of response that we had an the 20 century. there is no longer good enough to go door-to-door and find a local spreading infection and try to understand it, you know, grow in a lab or whatever. from now on these infections could potentially spread globally super quickly, but we have the technology to manage that. any new infectious disease threat should be something we should be able to sequence economically and a a matter of days and were able to do that with covid. we should be able to produce large-scale, so-called pntr tests. this is basic technology and make those avai
cdc tried as well. we get back to some of the failures in all of these areas, but while we have the best treatments and vaccines, by 2020, by late 2020 largest available good diagnostic test, we did have some real problems in translating that into impact. part of that, i knew the cdc has been playing for a big talk more about that, too. part of it goes beyond that because any infectious disease threat going for required different kind of response that we had an the 20 century. there is no...
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to the 51st engaged in the cdc or did the cdc reach out to you? >> what essentially happened, sir, was that we were talking to the biden transition team before he was sworn into office. >> did they reach out to you? >> yes, the biden transition team reached out to us. >> did that include the next cdc director? >> >> or anybody who want to work for cdc? >> you know something. i don't want to speculate. there were lots of meetings with lots of people. i don't know. i just don't. now >> when it was the first time you engage with cdc in any way since you perform directly? >> the first time was when they asked us to do the zoom -- i think the first time -- i'm 65 years old. i don't remember everything anymore. i'm sorry. i think the first time was -- the president was -- >> did they reach out to you or did you reach out to them? i know they asked for guidance. >> they reached out -- my recollection is that they set of this january 29th half an hour conference. that's my recollection. >> yes for no. did that include any direct interaction with the cdc d
to the 51st engaged in the cdc or did the cdc reach out to you? >> what essentially happened, sir, was that we were talking to the biden transition team before he was sworn into office. >> did they reach out to you? >> yes, the biden transition team reached out to us. >> did that include the next cdc director? >> >> or anybody who want to work for cdc? >> you know something. i don't want to speculate. there were lots of meetings with lots of people. i...
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we have cdc. fauci is not cdc, infectious and disease control, then you have the surgeon general, rachel levine. you have all of these federal health people, none of them seem to be synchronized, and it just continues to grow, right? and yet you have one job and you blew it so now you've got this other -- by the way, any time you see more than two federal acronyms in a story, reach for your wallet. all right? because you know where this is going, right? so what do they do? they come out and say we don't have enough. we've got to make this thing bigger. we need more computers. more people. and then, oh, by the way, let's move it to d.c., because that's a great idea, nothing ever goes wrong inside the beltway. they never come in and say make it more agile. parrot down. less. less. always bigger. >> greg: it can only grow. by the way, didn't know you were from england. >> i don't get it. >> i didn't know -- >> greg: that's the thickest brooklyn accent i have ever heard. queens. >> brooklyn, queens. >
we have cdc. fauci is not cdc, infectious and disease control, then you have the surgeon general, rachel levine. you have all of these federal health people, none of them seem to be synchronized, and it just continues to grow, right? and yet you have one job and you blew it so now you've got this other -- by the way, any time you see more than two federal acronyms in a story, reach for your wallet. all right? because you know where this is going, right? so what do they do? they come out and say...
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is based on cdc's advice. you are telling me you have given them advice and they are quoting you saying they are maintainingg this vaccine for people to come in even though we've now just discussed the fact we know it does not prevent transmission it will prevent the individual from getting really sick but it does not prevent the risk of someone coming into the country and spreading it to other people. >> as well. does prevent severe disease and deathe it does not permit transmission as well to get for prior variance until prevent some. >> i'm out of time. we need to lift this demand it on travelers. has ari big impact on our tourim industry and most other countries are doing it. i will yield back too. >> a gentleman yields back now reckon is a gentle lady from michigan. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i want to thank all of our panelists for all of the work you have been doing under it not the easiest of circumstances. i have a lot of questions so i need to get to them. i need to say we are going backwards on vac
is based on cdc's advice. you are telling me you have given them advice and they are quoting you saying they are maintainingg this vaccine for people to come in even though we've now just discussed the fact we know it does not prevent transmission it will prevent the individual from getting really sick but it does not prevent the risk of someone coming into the country and spreading it to other people. >> as well. does prevent severe disease and deathe it does not permit transmission as...
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were these proposals accepted by the cdc? >> well, the one proposal that was accepted, during -- if i may explain. during the -- the meeting of the 29th, we raised several different issues. we did not -- we had seen all the former -- >> were there -- it's -- no question. when you made the proposals, the two i suggested, were they accepted by the cdc. >> the proposal to have at risk -- the second proposal was not made on january 29th. >> i didn't say that. >> sorry. the first proposal about at risk immunocompromised workers and not that simply that they would work at home, but there will be accommodations for people who were at risk, that proposal was accepted. >> ok. now you've answered my question, thank you. >> sorry, i'm just slow. >> well -- and then if the other -- if a new variant arose guidance may need to be changed and then what else did aft propose? i mean, i mentioned those two i know of. were there other proposals that were not accepted? >> yes, several. >> and the proposal about a new variant arising that the gui
were these proposals accepted by the cdc? >> well, the one proposal that was accepted, during -- if i may explain. during the -- the meeting of the 29th, we raised several different issues. we did not -- we had seen all the former -- >> were there -- it's -- no question. when you made the proposals, the two i suggested, were they accepted by the cdc. >> the proposal to have at risk -- the second proposal was not made on january 29th. >> i didn't say that. >> sorry....
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i think there is about forward in a new cdc director and incoming cdc director talk about this partnerships here and maybe more partnerships with fda has certainly more partnerships the state and local levels withit yu north carolina and some of our effectively responses were getting onto the rural communities and he was there entrusted well, like the egg extension services in good point of contact for the farmers and frontline healthcare providers within need support to do this is something that you know whato the cdc couldel help them can'to it alone in healthcare and social service could be involved as well. >> in the cdc and staffing and culture built around that could help. >> is very broad mission and if you look at the cdc what they have on the website and for the public health is called public health three . zero recognizing that public health is certainly not just about hygiene making sure the water is clean and thes foods are safe and so forth an important collaborations with the fda there and i do but also about all of these opportunities with technology in medical technology and
i think there is about forward in a new cdc director and incoming cdc director talk about this partnerships here and maybe more partnerships with fda has certainly more partnerships the state and local levels withit yu north carolina and some of our effectively responses were getting onto the rural communities and he was there entrusted well, like the egg extension services in good point of contact for the farmers and frontline healthcare providers within need support to do this is something...
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do you listen to the cdc? you know, one cdc official i talked to said it's not just the lack of information. i at times there was also too much information like that. some of their guidance was sold. like if you looked at some of the guidance for schools, it was like a school superintendent was supposed to be able interpret this incredibly complicated information and this. official basically said, you know, i think we a bad job we should be gave way, too much information. we should have you know, we gave it at the level of like what a would need to know instead of what the average person would need to know. that's really interesting to know. and there's also a good amount like the section on federalism in the book is really valuable in playing with. i mean we we've looked a little bit at preemption of local initiatives across a lot areas really, you know, state preempting labor laws, lgbt protections, environmental laws that local communities have have passed as a like. that's a real right now american politic
do you listen to the cdc? you know, one cdc official i talked to said it's not just the lack of information. i at times there was also too much information like that. some of their guidance was sold. like if you looked at some of the guidance for schools, it was like a school superintendent was supposed to be able interpret this incredibly complicated information and this. official basically said, you know, i think we a bad job we should be gave way, too much information. we should have you...