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that's rudy giuliani, that's john eastman. they conceived of the overall strategy and some of those others like mike romans another example, they executed the strategy that was devised by somebody else. >> andrew weissmann, i have to thank you my friend. we kept you much longer than you original agreed to. you're gracious to be my anchor buddy with us. having a really great former prosecutor sitting right here is so great to have. thank you very much, my friend. i appreciate you. >>> we are keeping tim and vaughn. they aren't going anywhere. we have so much more on this. i'm going to give bernie back his phone while we take this very quick commercial break. we'll be right back. break. we'll be right back. clogged gutters can cause big problems fast. until now. call 833-leaffilter today for your free gutter inspection. i've had terrible flooding problems on my porch. now i understand why. right now leaffilter is offering a free inspection, on your schedule. leaffilter is a permanent gutter solution, so you never have to worry a
that's rudy giuliani, that's john eastman. they conceived of the overall strategy and some of those others like mike romans another example, they executed the strategy that was devised by somebody else. >> andrew weissmann, i have to thank you my friend. we kept you much longer than you original agreed to. you're gracious to be my anchor buddy with us. having a really great former prosecutor sitting right here is so great to have. thank you very much, my friend. i appreciate you....
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now, erica asked for john eastman. of course, we just got that ruling in from the california judge recommending disbarment. what happens next is the california supreme court will have to decide whether to endorse or reject that recommendation and officially disbar eastman. but of course, this step from the judge is very significant after that lengthy fact fighting, finding trial that lasted 34 days and in the meantime, erica eastman has been ordered to pay a $10,000 fine, and while the supreme court of the state of california considers this in three days, his law license will in fact, b. suspended, or the supreme court decides exactly what to do. >> wow really appreciate jessica. thank you. >> outfront. now, david cay johnston, pulitzer prize winning investigative journalist, who's covered donald trump for more than 30 years, david this judge recommending john eastman should be disbarred on the same day, jeffrey clark faces trial to determine whether he will be punished >> when you think about it, these >> are just two
now, erica asked for john eastman. of course, we just got that ruling in from the california judge recommending disbarment. what happens next is the california supreme court will have to decide whether to endorse or reject that recommendation and officially disbar eastman. but of course, this step from the judge is very significant after that lengthy fact fighting, finding trial that lasted 34 days and in the meantime, erica eastman has been ordered to pay a $10,000 fine, and while the supreme...
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bowers would later get a call from another trump attorney, john eastman-- john eastman: we know there was fraud-- jake tapper: --whom the january 6 committee sees as a key player in this grand plan to undo the legitimate results of the 2020 presidential election. rusty bowers: the ask was that we would throw out the electors. and i said, has it ever been done? he said, no. i said, you want me to take my state, 3.2 million voters and just throw them out the window because i want to and that's responsible on my part? i said, ok, thank you. we're not doing that. jake tapper: bowers kept his caucus on the sidelines, but in the arizona senate, republicans there yielded to pressure from team trump and voted to conduct an audit of the results in arizona's largest county. rusty bowers: when they got the cyber ninjas, i thought, i'll watch. this will be interesting. i don't want to be close to that. jake tapper: you might remember the ninjas. the company was run by a trump supporter. they employed ultraviolet lights which could supposedly identify ballots from china. rusty bowers: they came ou
bowers would later get a call from another trump attorney, john eastman-- john eastman: we know there was fraud-- jake tapper: --whom the january 6 committee sees as a key player in this grand plan to undo the legitimate results of the 2020 presidential election. rusty bowers: the ask was that we would throw out the electors. and i said, has it ever been done? he said, no. i said, you want me to take my state, 3.2 million voters and just throw them out the window because i want to and that's...
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that's not a great comparison for john eastman. on one level, there is something maddening about this. the eastman did everything he could to overthrow the constitutional order and three years later, the only real punishment he receives is at the ripe old age of 63, he may no longer be able to practice law. there is also something revealing about the disbarment hearing, which is that in every single case, i think without exception, when you take what happened during the attempted to and you put it through some process with evidence and testimony, witnesses, that the adjudicative process inevitably determines that something gravely wrong occurred. when it comes to eastman in particular, that's been true for a long time. in fact, two years ago today, a federal judge ruled that eastman could not hide documents from the january 6th committee by setting claims of attorney-client privilege. because of something called the crime fraud exception which means privilege does not apply when the information in question may have been used in the
that's not a great comparison for john eastman. on one level, there is something maddening about this. the eastman did everything he could to overthrow the constitutional order and three years later, the only real punishment he receives is at the ripe old age of 63, he may no longer be able to practice law. there is also something revealing about the disbarment hearing, which is that in every single case, i think without exception, when you take what happened during the attempted to and you put...
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john eastman and jeffrey clark trying to save their law licenses right now. >>> the painful, heartbreaking grief for four families waiting for answers about their loved ones who are presumed dead in that horrific baltimore bridge collapse. the challenging recovery effort underway. >>> and the new $2 million ad buy from tiktok, how the wildly popular app is fighting back against a possible u.s. ban. our nbc news reporters are following all of the latest developments and we begin in atlanta with donald trump's latest bid to get the election interference case thrown out. nbc's blayne alexander is there. what happened today, blayne? >> reporter: well, chris, what we saw today in the fulton county courtroom is what we have seen play out many times over the course of this, between either the former president or his many codefendants in trying to get this indictment thrown out. basically today, steve sadow arguing that everything alleged in the indictment fell under first amendment protection, that it was nothing more than political speech. the state pushed back on that, of course, basically sayi
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we know john eastman plans to appeal this decision. what does the process look like and if he is ultimately disbarred, what are his professional prospects? are we going to have to welcome this former law professor and dean back? >> look, disbarment is i think by design a very slow and painfully slow process. you are taking away someone's livelihood if they are permanently disbarred. and rudy giuliani was suspended from practicing law more than a year ago in washington dc. buff his decision is still pending and it takes a long time. eastman gets to appeal in a review panel and go to the california supreme court if he is unhappy with that ruling so there's still a few more levels here for him. >> i noticed you did not say anything about his return to the academy. not even a prospect we want to contemplate. but many thanks to both of you for laying this out. >> and mary, i'll see you on the pod. i have a lot of questions to ask my coanchor and coauthor about the supreme court ahead of the immunity hearing on april 25th. that's next. 25th.
we know john eastman plans to appeal this decision. what does the process look like and if he is ultimately disbarred, what are his professional prospects? are we going to have to welcome this former law professor and dean back? >> look, disbarment is i think by design a very slow and painfully slow process. you are taking away someone's livelihood if they are permanently disbarred. and rudy giuliani was suspended from practicing law more than a year ago in washington dc. buff his...
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so john eastman, how to trial previously. and there was a decision that came out of that trial that there was a finding that he had potentially some moral issues that would potentially mean now that decision could be that he will lose his license. that's what's at stake. we're waiting to see what a judge in california that oversees the bar, there, the attorneys that are allowed to practice in that state and elsewhere. that decision is expected today. on john eastman, there's still has to be a little bit more process after that, but the findings that were waiting for after this trial where johnny spin testified in his own defense about his actions for donald trump that is what's we're seeing the result of that today. and there are not it's not just john eastman who's going through proceedings like this. jeffrey clark is currently in his own attorney discipline trial, started yesterday in washington, dc. rudy giuliani has already been through one and the initial findings were the he should be disbarred. it still has to go so th
so john eastman, how to trial previously. and there was a decision that came out of that trial that there was a finding that he had potentially some moral issues that would potentially mean now that decision could be that he will lose his license. that's what's at stake. we're waiting to see what a judge in california that oversees the bar, there, the attorneys that are allowed to practice in that state and elsewhere. that decision is expected today. on john eastman, there's still has to be a...
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we know that john eastman plans to appeal this decision. what does the process look like and if he is ultimately disbarred, what are his professional prospects? i mean, are we as law professors going to have to welcome this former law professor and dean back into the fold to teach constitutional law? >> i mean, look. disbarment is i think by design a very slow and sometimes painfully slow process. because as you point out, you are taking away someone's livelihood if they are permanently disbarred. and rudy giuliani, he was -- suspended from practicing law, you know, more than a year ago in washington, d.c. but his permanent disbarment decision is still ending and it takes a long time again by design. eastman gets to appeal to a review panel of other judges. and then he gets to go again to the california supreme court if he -- if he's unhappy with that ruling. so there's still a few more levels here for him and for some of the other people who are facing similar processes. >> kyle cheney, mary mccord, kyle you didn't say anything about his r
we know that john eastman plans to appeal this decision. what does the process look like and if he is ultimately disbarred, what are his professional prospects? i mean, are we as law professors going to have to welcome this former law professor and dean back into the fold to teach constitutional law? >> i mean, look. disbarment is i think by design a very slow and sometimes painfully slow process. because as you point out, you are taking away someone's livelihood if they are permanently...
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this week my federal judge ruled that john eastman should be disbarred in california. viewers will recall that eastman is alleged to have been one of the architects of the skin to substitute fake electors. indeed, he has been indicted as a co-defendant of the georgia election interference criminal case in relation to that scheme. and escaping 128 page opinion, judge yvette roland rebuked eastman for knowingly asserting false claims about voter fraud, was representing the law in order to [ inaudible ], and conspiring with president trump to obstruct a lawful function of the government of the united states, specifically by conspiring to disrupt the electoral count on january 6, 2021 point eastman exhibited gross negligence by making false statements about the 2020 election without conducting any meaningful investigation or verification of the information he was relying upon. the evidence presented demonstrates that eastman, despite claiming sincere belief, deliberately propagated false claims about the 2020 presidential election, thereby breaching his ethical duty as an
this week my federal judge ruled that john eastman should be disbarred in california. viewers will recall that eastman is alleged to have been one of the architects of the skin to substitute fake electors. indeed, he has been indicted as a co-defendant of the georgia election interference criminal case in relation to that scheme. and escaping 128 page opinion, judge yvette roland rebuked eastman for knowingly asserting false claims about voter fraud, was representing the law in order to [...
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his wife has actively been involved in communication, pressing john eastman, pressing -- at the time. and also continues to maintain that the 2020 election was stolen despite a complete lack of evidence thereof. our hope is that clarence thomas has shown that he's willing to recuse himself from a case. this is one of the most direct implications that he has with respect to one of any of the cases that's come before the court. >> do you worry that he might not because you've written the letter? you have called for his impeachment before, you've been very tough on clarence thomas? >> we have called for him to recuse himself in all cases related to january six. he has in the past, frankly, this truly is not even about partisan point scoring. it's about, this is about the integrity of the court. and to not recuse oneself from a case where one is so, where the justice's deeply involved would have larger ramifications not just for clarence thomas but for the supreme court overall. >> do you worry that it sets a bad precedent for justice has to recuse himself based on something that his wife
his wife has actively been involved in communication, pressing john eastman, pressing -- at the time. and also continues to maintain that the 2020 election was stolen despite a complete lack of evidence thereof. our hope is that clarence thomas has shown that he's willing to recuse himself from a case. this is one of the most direct implications that he has with respect to one of any of the cases that's come before the court. >> do you worry that he might not because you've written the...
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he did recuse himself in the case regarding john eastman, never really explaining why he recused himself. >> yes, and his wife, you know, one of the -- one of the documents that donald trump actually tried to prevent from coming to the january 6th committee were documents that showed ginny thomas in communication with john eastman. clarence thomas did not really elaborate as to why he recused himself but he recused himself in the case with respect to john eastman. his wife had actively been involved in communication with him pressing john eastman and press mark meadows, donald trump's chief of staff at the time and also continues to maintain that the 2020 election was stolen despite a complete lack of evidence thereof, and so, you know, i think our hope is that clarence thomas has shown that he is willing to recuse himself from a case. this is one of the most direct implications that he has with respect to, you know, perhaps -- one of any of the cases that's coming before the court. >> do you worry that he might not just because you have written this letter? you have called for his impea
he did recuse himself in the case regarding john eastman, never really explaining why he recused himself. >> yes, and his wife, you know, one of the -- one of the documents that donald trump actually tried to prevent from coming to the january 6th committee were documents that showed ginny thomas in communication with john eastman. clarence thomas did not really elaborate as to why he recused himself but he recused himself in the case with respect to john eastman. his wife had actively...
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someone like john eastman can be disbarred. me is the kind of candidate that trump if i think if president would install in the white house as a senior adviser to give him the sort of advice he wants to hearment that has always been the mainstay of trump world. the people who survive are the ones who tell trump what he wants to hear. jeff clark is someone he has identified as a person he would want to install in a high position in the justice department. and if he were disbarred, that would preclude that route. if he escapes disbarment, this is a good candidate to be the head one one of the doj's components. that is not what he is aiming for, but he might end up as the deputy attorney general. these are the people trump wants to surround himself with. and, i don't think disbarment necessarily will be an obstacle for trump world. >> as they think about who they will put in, in a second trump term, the republicans continue to push out the likes of liz cheney. they have turned against republicans like her and others. she is out he
someone like john eastman can be disbarred. me is the kind of candidate that trump if i think if president would install in the white house as a senior adviser to give him the sort of advice he wants to hearment that has always been the mainstay of trump world. the people who survive are the ones who tell trump what he wants to hear. jeff clark is someone he has identified as a person he would want to install in a high position in the justice department. and if he were disbarred, that would...
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in john eastman's case, a 34-day trial. jeff clark is in the middle of his and we've seen testimony from a number of people, including several department of justice officials who were in the room with jeff clark when he tried to persuade donald trump that he should continue to go down the path of suggesting to states that they appoint their own electors and essentially circumvent the will of the voters. >> thank you very much for keeping track because it is hard to keep track of all the election deniers and all the people in trouble in donald trump's orbit who were allegedly trying to overturn the election back in those heady days in 2020. lisa rubin, thank you very much. >>> and a judge has found that a georgia republican who claimed the 2020 election was stolen himself voted illegally not once, but nine times. nine times. "the washington post" reports brian pritchard, the first vice chairman of the georgia state republican party was sentenced in pennsylvania in 1996 to three years probation for forging a check. his probat
in john eastman's case, a 34-day trial. jeff clark is in the middle of his and we've seen testimony from a number of people, including several department of justice officials who were in the room with jeff clark when he tried to persuade donald trump that he should continue to go down the path of suggesting to states that they appoint their own electors and essentially circumvent the will of the voters. >> thank you very much for keeping track because it is hard to keep track of all the...
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the washington port status post report they are mark meadows, rudy giuliani, jen alice, john eastman and christina bob. boris epstein and -- mike roman. the defendants are charged with conspiracy, fraud and forgery, all felonies. for scheming to prevent the lawful transfer of the president keep unindicted co-conspirator one in office against the will of arizona voters. unindicted co-conspirator one, is donald trump. all of this comes as trump already faces 88 criminal charges across four jurisdictions. he is currently on trial in new york facing 34 charges related to election interference and business record fried. tomorrow morning, the supreme court will be hearing arguments in his immunity case, were trunk claims he cannot be prosecuted by special counsel jack smith in the federal january 6th election case against him. joining me now is -- von hillier. i know you have been reading into this and going through the indictment. first of all, set up what happened here in terms of the investigation, whose office did the investigation, how long it took and what attorney general mays annou
the washington port status post report they are mark meadows, rudy giuliani, jen alice, john eastman and christina bob. boris epstein and -- mike roman. the defendants are charged with conspiracy, fraud and forgery, all felonies. for scheming to prevent the lawful transfer of the president keep unindicted co-conspirator one in office against the will of arizona voters. unindicted co-conspirator one, is donald trump. all of this comes as trump already faces 88 criminal charges across four...
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but just remember that john eastman has joined a very small exclusive club. because as the major bar association has pointed out, you know, it is really hard to get disbarreds a lawyer. i just want you to know that. out of 1.4 million lawyers in 2021, only 500 were disbarred. it does not happen very often in a self-policing profession. the fact that the opinion was so strong in its words and wording, there was one count that was dismissed. so it was a fair proceeding and looking at the facts, but lawyers don't get to make stuff up, don't get to make laws up. these were lawyers including john eastman who thought that donald trump was powerful enough and that they were going to get away with it, which has nothing to do with whether they thought it was lawful, and that's why this matters so much. >> amanda, i believe the 1/6 select committee developed evidence john eastman was personally aware it was both illegal, it violated the electoral count act, and it was unconstitutional. the u.s. supreme court would at first he thought strike it down 7-2, and thain he co
but just remember that john eastman has joined a very small exclusive club. because as the major bar association has pointed out, you know, it is really hard to get disbarreds a lawyer. i just want you to know that. out of 1.4 million lawyers in 2021, only 500 were disbarred. it does not happen very often in a self-policing profession. the fact that the opinion was so strong in its words and wording, there was one count that was dismissed. so it was a fair proceeding and looking at the facts,...
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welcome to the le, let's start with what we just heard about john eastman. does he have a strong legal argument when he claims that being his lawyers, his livelihood and he needed let's to be able to practice law to pay his bills. i >> don't think it's a particularly strong legal argument. it's possible that the courts will have some sympathy for him. it's possible to predict how they will resolve it but i don't think this is sympathetic argument at all. i mean, this man was a very bad lawyer and he did a very bad job and quite possibly the highest stakes setting we could imagine in the run-up to january six. and on january 6 he really shouldn't be practicing law and i don't know where matt gaetz and marjorie taylor greene had been looking for lawyers, but he is definitely not the only competent lawyer that they can find. there are many, many more we know of two other former trump attorneys who have taken plea deals in that fulton county case to avoid trial. sidney powell and kenneth chesebro you interview johnny's been last year do you think his financial s
welcome to the le, let's start with what we just heard about john eastman. does he have a strong legal argument when he claims that being his lawyers, his livelihood and he needed let's to be able to practice law to pay his bills. i >> don't think it's a particularly strong legal argument. it's possible that the courts will have some sympathy for him. it's possible to predict how they will resolve it but i don't think this is sympathetic argument at all. i mean, this man was a very bad...
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here's john eastman my name is john eastman. i'm here today to surrender to an indictment as troubling. it targets a 20 they're zealous advocacy on behalf of their clients. something attorneys are ethically bound to provide. >> do you still think the election was stolen >> similar still, no question. >> do you regret attaching your name to the former president? none whatsoever >> perhaps there should be a little bit of regret. consider use investigate, barred. >> what's on there >> yeah. be spent so much time and law school and everything. but i think what we're going to see from democrats is them lean into this showing what happened? because i think what we've seen from republicans quite a few is i'm trying to downplay, of course, what happened january 6 and the efforts to overturn 2020. but having your lawyer disbar communicates that this was not a light matter. that's something actually occurred that suggests that this should not happen again. and i think the fear that many many people want to laugh have is that if trump is t
here's john eastman my name is john eastman. i'm here today to surrender to an indictment as troubling. it targets a 20 they're zealous advocacy on behalf of their clients. something attorneys are ethically bound to provide. >> do you still think the election was stolen >> similar still, no question. >> do you regret attaching your name to the former president? none whatsoever >> perhaps there should be a little bit of regret. consider use investigate, barred. >>...
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what john eastman did though, as mr. cardona just said, is he time and again dozens of times laid out in this opinion, gave false information to court, made arguments based on things that he claimed were fat, but he knew or should have known were false and that's why he's now had his license suspended. >> so what do you make of his statement tonight where he saying that the process is they referred to it, that he undertook is the same one taken by lawyers every day and everywhere. it is the essence of what lawyers do. i mean, >> it's good in theory, if that is what he had done but that's not what he did, right? we see people make novel legal arguments all time. i'll give you a recent example. we saw groups of lawyers recently bringing 14th amendment challenges to try to keep trump off the ballot. well, that was untested. they were making aggressive arguments that failed almost uniformly that were rejected 90 by the supreme court. but that's not going to get anyone disbarred because they didn't lie they didn't make up fac
what john eastman did though, as mr. cardona just said, is he time and again dozens of times laid out in this opinion, gave false information to court, made arguments based on things that he claimed were fat, but he knew or should have known were false and that's why he's now had his license suspended. >> so what do you make of his statement tonight where he saying that the process is they referred to it, that he undertook is the same one taken by lawyers every day and everywhere. it is...
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and trump fully endorses eastman's plan. >> well, john eastman was one of my law clerks... perhaps 20, 25 years ago. i was greatly concerned that john had given the advice that he had given. >> judge j. michael luttig is one of the leading conservative legal thinkers in the country. he's served in administrations of president ronald reagan and george h.w. bush. >> judge luttig had a kind of moral authority within the conservative community. a guy himself who had been short-listed for the supreme court. was on a first-name basis with members of the supreme court. >> judge luttig, i had the incredible honor of serving as one of your law clerks. another person who did was john eastman. and you've written that dr. eastman's theory is, in your words, "incorrect at every turn." >> mr. eastman said to the president that there was both legal as well as historical precedent for the vice president to overturn the election. this is constitutional mischief. i would have laid my body across the road before i would have let the vice president overturn the 2020 election. i diagrammed his,
and trump fully endorses eastman's plan. >> well, john eastman was one of my law clerks... perhaps 20, 25 years ago. i was greatly concerned that john had given the advice that he had given. >> judge j. michael luttig is one of the leading conservative legal thinkers in the country. he's served in administrations of president ronald reagan and george h.w. bush. >> judge luttig had a kind of moral authority within the conservative community. a guy himself who had been...
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. >> my name is john eastman. i'm a professor of constitutional law and former dean had this rogue legal theory that if the legislature felt odd about the results of the election. it was argued it to seize the decision on who georgia's electoral votes should go to, correct me if i'm wrong here are your argument is that essentially we have a failed election that would require the legislature to step in and assign electors. am i correct? >> yes. >> and that's when the purpose of the meeting became clear. >> they thought that they could get officials there to call a special session throughout their electors and appoint a on alternate set of electors or fake electors urine attorney? >> yes. >> what did you make about legal argument >> i thought it was totally bogus because it was very clear under georgia law that we had no such power >> during the hearing. parent tweeted about being forced to listen to the trump team's conspiracy theories >> all of a sudden, i was going by hi role in these right-wing segments of twitt
. >> my name is john eastman. i'm a professor of constitutional law and former dean had this rogue legal theory that if the legislature felt odd about the results of the election. it was argued it to seize the decision on who georgia's electoral votes should go to, correct me if i'm wrong here are your argument is that essentially we have a failed election that would require the legislature to step in and assign electors. am i correct? >> yes. >> and that's when the purpose of...
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congress was set to certify biden's electoral college victory john eastman came up with a really kinda crazy legal theory where he tried to convince the vice president that he had the authority to basically declare which slate of electors is accurate or to not accept a slate of electors. the constitution is very clear that he doesn't have that authority but for trump, he was a last desperate attempt to stay in the white house there were multiple steps here. >> i mean, part of it was to declare that there was fraud and then if you didn't do that too send it back to the states where he felt republican legislators would appoint new electors. that would then vote for him if not, that we're he knew that he was going to have supporters coming into town to try to pressure pens to do one of these things but. the president began his pressure campaign immediately trump try to coerce pants on several private phone calls even on christmas day and then there was the public pressure on pants. >> she's a great guy if he doesn't come through, i won't like it. what is much on january 5th, trump tweeted
congress was set to certify biden's electoral college victory john eastman came up with a really kinda crazy legal theory where he tried to convince the vice president that he had the authority to basically declare which slate of electors is accurate or to not accept a slate of electors. the constitution is very clear that he doesn't have that authority but for trump, he was a last desperate attempt to stay in the white house there were multiple steps here. >> i mean, part of it was to...
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this is following a trial of john eastman regarding attorney discipline proceedings that were brought against him. so what's at stake is the possible loss of his law license. it would have to be certified by the courts in california if that's what the judge decides, the penalty should be for john eastman for the work he did for donald trump after 2020. but this is one of those trials where you're seeing the consequence of 2020 and that election, the efforts of lawyers on behalf of donald trump play out even well before those cases go to criminal trial, we will see what happens with eastman today. there's also proceedings happening for others in the system who are lawyers. fred. >> all right. katelyn polantz. thanks so much. john new cnn >> reporting sources say that former president do bomber is calling it an all hands on deck moment. new details on how he is planning to help the biden campaign. and the fda approves a new drug that could stop the deadly condition and women, the doctors are calling it ticking time bomb >> if you work in spaceflight. this is the worst possible thing tha
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we appreciate your time thanks. >> jessica, still ahead today, former trump attorney john eastman becomes the first of 18 defendants arranged on charges stemming from the 2020 fake electors scheme in arizona, were in phoenix i didn't $500 million in art stolen. >> me saw what turned out to be the biggest heist in history. >> you can't help but wonder if this was some sort of inside job pow really happened with jesse l. martin sunday at nine on cnn let's blocked the road trip. >> everyone comfortable, yet there's plenty of space gun, no logo, no golf just wait the mouth the volkswagen atlas with three rows and seating per seven everyone wants her right okay. >> gabe and see despicable me before and theaters july 3rd, rated pg. did i read this? did i get x where? >> oh, my keys, memory and thinking issues keep piling up. it may be due to a buildup of amyloid plaques in the brain. visit more than normal aging.com from roger to we there yet so many ways to save life, ready, while it happy that's 3605 by whole foods market all new subway routes are packed with delicious ingredients and a pilla
we appreciate your time thanks. >> jessica, still ahead today, former trump attorney john eastman becomes the first of 18 defendants arranged on charges stemming from the 2020 fake electors scheme in arizona, were in phoenix i didn't $500 million in art stolen. >> me saw what turned out to be the biggest heist in history. >> you can't help but wonder if this was some sort of inside job pow really happened with jesse l. martin sunday at nine on cnn let's blocked the road trip....
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cnn happening today, trump, ally and former attorney john eastman set to appear in arizona courtroom. >> eastman is the first of 18 defendants to be arraigned on charges stemming from the 2020 fake electors scheme. cnn's young law is following this from phoenix, you've been following this since the beginning, really? what can we expect today? >> sara, this is going to feel very much like any other arraignment that you may have covered out in the field? it is going to be typical court proceedings is there's going to be charges announced that there will be a booking. there will be a mug shot taken. the difference here is who we're talking about about the proceeding per say, standard of raman. but it is john eastman, the former trump attorney, someone who is known at least in this indictment as the arm good ticked of this multi-state fake elector scheme. and he is a very first of the 18 defendants named. and this indictment, who will be appearing being in cord. so those in-court appearance beginning to day. so who are they who are these fake electors? we've heard about the scheme over an
cnn happening today, trump, ally and former attorney john eastman set to appear in arizona courtroom. >> eastman is the first of 18 defendants to be arraigned on charges stemming from the 2020 fake electors scheme. cnn's young law is following this from phoenix, you've been following this since the beginning, really? what can we expect today? >> sara, this is going to feel very much like any other arraignment that you may have covered out in the field? it is going to be typical...
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john eastman wolf, young law reporting for us from phoenix. thanks very much for more and all of this. and it's an important story i want to bring in cnn legal analysts, michael moore and former florida judge and cooley law school professor jeff swartz, michael, you are the us attorney for the middle district of georgia the state where so many of the same trump aides were indicted for trying to overturn the election results there. what do you make of this case in arizona? over this fake elector scheme? >> yeah. >> i'm glad to be both abby you know, this really tracks much the same type of information and allegations that we see in the georgia indictment and others that is dealing with whether or not there was some forgery committed by presenting false documents and the signatures, and that is easy the offenses that could be defined by state law. >> so you're seeing state officials bringing these charges i there's a part of me who is 100% for accountability and for having things brought forward when they're, when they're issues like this as ano
john eastman wolf, young law reporting for us from phoenix. thanks very much for more and all of this. and it's an important story i want to bring in cnn legal analysts, michael moore and former florida judge and cooley law school professor jeff swartz, michael, you are the us attorney for the middle district of georgia the state where so many of the same trump aides were indicted for trying to overturn the election results there. what do you make of this case in arizona? over this fake elector...
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there was a case in which the january 6 committee attempted to get documents from john eastman. some of those the documents included emails between eastman and jenni thomas, clarence thomas his wife. clarence thomas did recuse himself in that case. there is a federal law that requires a judge recuse themselves when there might be some reasonable question as to the appearance of impartiality. that includes instances where for example they might reasonably believe that their spouse could be a material witness in the case and again, jenni thomas is someone who had medications with someone like mark meadows about efforts to reserve reverse the results of the election, had medications with john eastman and someone who was at the january 6th rally add trump's speech. it certainly is a case that there is a colorful argument here that she could be someone who might be a material witness as it relates to the department of justice case against trump. there is a argument for clarence thomas's recusal based on all of that. there are some signs that we have seen that potentially clarence tho
there was a case in which the january 6 committee attempted to get documents from john eastman. some of those the documents included emails between eastman and jenni thomas, clarence thomas his wife. clarence thomas did recuse himself in that case. there is a federal law that requires a judge recuse themselves when there might be some reasonable question as to the appearance of impartiality. that includes instances where for example they might reasonably believe that their spouse could be a...
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eastman, one of the lead counsels said there was widespread fraud. there were 63 cases claiming there was fraud, and that in part because of that fraud under the constitution, vice president pants have the power. nobody ever heard of this, had the power to delay the january 6 meeting of congress to recognize the winner maybe even throw out some of those electors the court today, the california bar judge said that john eastman's role in that basically was false. >> he >> put forward false information about the facts and the law, the facts, there was no water spread fraud, and the law, but vice president has no such powers and it wasn't a close case. that's why as a lawyer, he was recommended for disbarment the california supreme court will have to prove it. you can't lie about the facts. you can't lie about the law >> will this have any impact on the actual legal cases that trump is facing? obviously, the nature and the substance of the facts are alleged in current lawsuits and prosecutions i think it's a powerful indicator of the trouble that donald
eastman, one of the lead counsels said there was widespread fraud. there were 63 cases claiming there was fraud, and that in part because of that fraud under the constitution, vice president pants have the power. nobody ever heard of this, had the power to delay the january 6 meeting of congress to recognize the winner maybe even throw out some of those electors the court today, the california bar judge said that john eastman's role in that basically was false. >> he >> put forward...
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jen ellis, john eastman, all attorneys around the president. and of course referring to to them specifically, here the foreign president is identified as coconspirator, unindicted coconspirator number one, pretty specifically in the indictment, it says used to be president of the united states. and so more will come out here as we learn where the prosecutors will go with this, abby. >> yeah, certainly. and look, it's not because they're kind of protect these people. they just haven't been served yet. that's why we don't have their actual names in the indictment. elliot williams. thank you very much joining me now, we've got an 18 of experts on kush kadoorie, kaitlan collins is here with us, bradley mosques and carry cordillera as well on kush this is obviously now a little bit delayed. actually, frankly, i mean, we are now in 2024 this was back in 2020. this stuff occurred on top of that you've got in michigan and in arizona unindicted people who really are at the center of this is the system working in your view or is this? something else? >>
jen ellis, john eastman, all attorneys around the president. and of course referring to to them specifically, here the foreign president is identified as coconspirator, unindicted coconspirator number one, pretty specifically in the indictment, it says used to be president of the united states. and so more will come out here as we learn where the prosecutors will go with this, abby. >> yeah, certainly. and look, it's not because they're kind of protect these people. they just haven't been...
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eastman, john john locke, great to have you there. keep us posted as we see this develop over the course course of the day. thank you very much, sarah. >> and now to another big case, now to donald trump's election interference case in georgia, there is new insight this morning into all of the campaigning right now going on in that state and then not speaking former president trump, both the judge and the embattled da in the georgia case are facing challengers and fighting to keep their seats. cnn sara marie is joining us now. this is a confluence of a lot of things. what are you hearing it's this bizarre election year coincidence that of course donald trump, the defendant is campaigning, but so is district attorney fani willis so is the judge who is overseeing this case. >> judge scott mcafee, and the incumbents are still favored to win, but they are having to go out there. they're having to try to defend their seats you've seen fani willis at a variety of campaign events around the greater atlanta area where she's trying to walk thi
eastman, john john locke, great to have you there. keep us posted as we see this develop over the course course of the day. thank you very much, sarah. >> and now to another big case, now to donald trump's election interference case in georgia, there is new insight this morning into all of the campaigning right now going on in that state and then not speaking former president trump, both the judge and the embattled da in the georgia case are facing challengers and fighting to keep their...
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this is john eastman. you might remember him. he was an attorney for former president donald trump. he spoke on january 6, 2021. prosecutors say that he is the architect of that fake electors scheme in multiple states. that biden one, what did we learn from his day in court will tell you next? >> you need new replacement windows, but you're just not sure if they're in the budget this year, right? i'm brian gary here with ted koons from renewal by anderson and he's here to talk about how to make window replacement more affordable. >> well, first, brian, you don't have to do them all. you could just replace your worst windows first or another way to make them affordable is to change the style of window. for example, you could do a gliding window instead of a casement we have a lot of ways to make window projects really affordable compared to other window companies, you have a completely different business model. >> yeah, with other companies, there's just too many people involved in the process there's the manufacturer or the seller, and then the installer, and then the customer and i
this is john eastman. you might remember him. he was an attorney for former president donald trump. he spoke on january 6, 2021. prosecutors say that he is the architect of that fake electors scheme in multiple states. that biden one, what did we learn from his day in court will tell you next? >> you need new replacement windows, but you're just not sure if they're in the budget this year, right? i'm brian gary here with ted koons from renewal by anderson and he's here to talk about how...
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a california judge has ruled john eastman will be disbarred. at this moment, he can no longer practice law. thank you, ruth and miles. not telling you what he thinks, he's telling you what he knows. >>> next, robert f. kennedy jr. is polling anywhere from 8 to 13% in the polls which could affect the outcome of the november election. how this antivax con spirist is posing a threat to president biden. s posing a threat to president biden. starting a business is never easy, but starting it eight months pregnant... that's a different story. i couldn't slow down. we were starting a business from the ground up. people were showing up left and right. and so did our business needs the chase ink card made it easy. when you go for something big like this, your kids see that. and they believe they can do the same. earn unlimited 1.5% cash back on every purchase with the chase ink business unlimited card. make more of what's yours. nexium 24hr prevents heartburn acid before it begins. get all-day and all-night heartburn acid prevention with just one pill a
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the other seven individuals, the like of john eastman, rudy giuliani. christina bobb are redacted because they have yet to be served. these are individuals that were tougher targets here and part of a greater conspiracy. she could have focused on the 11 electors but kris mayes clearly intended to target and make it clear that this conspiracy was not only a threat to the 2020 election, but also the 2022 election and potentially future elections and clearly made the decision to proceed. and if i may, what is notable about her indictment here is the fact that she specifically out lines the fact that she contends that the 11 electors as well as the other seven who are indicted as well, that were trump attorneys or trump campaign officials they intended to deceive the arizona voters. i just want to read part of this. defendants deceive the citizens of arizona falsely claiming those votes were contingent on a legal challenge that would change the outcome of the election. in reality, defendants intended that their false votes would encourage pence to reject th
the other seven individuals, the like of john eastman, rudy giuliani. christina bobb are redacted because they have yet to be served. these are individuals that were tougher targets here and part of a greater conspiracy. she could have focused on the 11 electors but kris mayes clearly intended to target and make it clear that this conspiracy was not only a threat to the 2020 election, but also the 2022 election and potentially future elections and clearly made the decision to proceed. and if i...
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john eastman is a former clarence thomas law clerk, is that right? >> yes, john eastman currently being disbarred from california because of his participation in trying to overturn the election, one of the more extreme examples but a very good one. another one is june yu who wrote the torture memos under george w. bush. laura engram, hate mongering on fox news every night. not all of these individuals go directly into the judiciary. they might work to overturn free and fair elections or whipping up hatred against muslim immigrants, but either way they're preaching from the gospel clarence thomas helped to write. and i'm sure crystal clanton will be set along the exact same path once she graduates from this boot camp. >> this is clarence thomas' arm ay. thanks for making the time tonight. that is our show for this evening. "way too early" with jonathan lemire is coming up next. >>> it's about telling a story. people have -- people are breaking their necks
john eastman is a former clarence thomas law clerk, is that right? >> yes, john eastman currently being disbarred from california because of his participation in trying to overturn the election, one of the more extreme examples but a very good one. another one is june yu who wrote the torture memos under george w. bush. laura engram, hate mongering on fox news every night. not all of these individuals go directly into the judiciary. they might work to overturn free and fair elections or...
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we know about sidney powell and john eastman, who just got disbarred. rudy giuliani, who is obviously not in very good position. how the mighty have fallen. but the point of this interview and doing it with univision was about latino support and making sure that he sure is that up and he is down -- it was up 29 points with latinos the first year in office and that edge isd crime. he is doing better on them but obviously got ground to make up, and it's interesting that this came out yesterday and we have the ruling taking us back to 1864 in arizona about abortion because latino votes in nevada and arizona are what are going to be really crucial there. 57% of hispanics say abortion should be legal in all or most cases and donald trump is out there defending his stance of, you leave it to the states -- she did say today i won't support a federal abortion ban. he said before that he supports a 15 or 16 week man so i don't know if you will be consistent with that. the democrats are going to make that a centerpiece of this conversation, as they should. yeah.
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john eastman is a former clarence thomas law clicker. is that right? john eastman who is barred from california for his participation in trying to overturn. and the torture memos. laura ingram. a hate monger on fox news every night. not all of these individuals go directly into the judiciary. they might try to overturn free and fair elections. but either way, they are preaching from the gospel that clarence thomas helped to write and i am sure that crystal clanton will be set along the exact same path once she graduates from this boot camp. >> this is clarence thomas' army. ladies and gentlemen. it is always great to talk with you, mark. thanks for making the time. >> thank you. >> that is our show this evening. now it is time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. good evening and welcome back lawrence. >> thanks alex. >>> so mike is over there. right over there. in radio city music hall with the three presidents. and, he is
john eastman is a former clarence thomas law clicker. is that right? john eastman who is barred from california for his participation in trying to overturn. and the torture memos. laura ingram. a hate monger on fox news every night. not all of these individuals go directly into the judiciary. they might try to overturn free and fair elections. but either way, they are preaching from the gospel that clarence thomas helped to write and i am sure that crystal clanton will be set along the exact...
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eastman had designed it, these are lawyers that knew better. it started by being well, in case we win one of these audits or court cases that at least we have a slate of electors into fae collectors who actually lied and said we are the real electors, and tried to get their names submitted, contrary to the law. >> the numbers are really what this is about. it reminds me of this quote, from back in the day, about how a lot of those who showed up were morons, but there were 15,000 of them. that's the danger. when you have all these individuals who might be clownish or buffoonish and have rudy giuliani with that ridiculous press conference, there are millions of americans willing to believe those lies, and having those numbers, who actually got law degrees, at one point, be willing to be part of this effort made it dangerous. met great to have you, thank you. ryan j riley, nbc news justice reporter and author of a remarkable book called "sedition hunters." he has followed every case having to do with january 6th. >>> after weeks of protest and tho
eastman had designed it, these are lawyers that knew better. it started by being well, in case we win one of these audits or court cases that at least we have a slate of electors into fae collectors who actually lied and said we are the real electors, and tried to get their names submitted, contrary to the law. >> the numbers are really what this is about. it reminds me of this quote, from back in the day, about how a lot of those who showed up were morons, but there were 15,000 of them....
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i love your reaction to john eastman and jeffrey clark facing disbarment. how could that impact your defense in the georgia case? >> it would affect their defense if they were to take the stand, and if they were to testify. anything they would say under oath publicly could be used against them in a later criminal case, which is why you are seeing them, i think, wisely take the fifth and not speak to avoid exactly that problem. >>> turning to trumps gag order in new york, do you expect the judge to close the loophole that made it possible for trump to attack the judges and family members? >> i don't. the terms of the gag order have a carveout, so, they are allowing for criticism of the court, of the judge, as well as of the district attorney. the gag order really tracks the same gag order that was upheld by the dc court of appeals in the january 6th case in dc. so, by carving out those entities, in addition, it also carves that family members of those entities. i think you will see the judge confirmed that family members of the judge, and family members of t
i love your reaction to john eastman and jeffrey clark facing disbarment. how could that impact your defense in the georgia case? >> it would affect their defense if they were to take the stand, and if they were to testify. anything they would say under oath publicly could be used against them in a later criminal case, which is why you are seeing them, i think, wisely take the fifth and not speak to avoid exactly that problem. >>> turning to trumps gag order in new york, do you...
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these other seven individuals, the likes of john eastman, rudy giuliani, christina bobb, that are still rejected in this indictment because they have yet to be served here, these are individuals that were for targets here in part of a greater conspiracy that is outlined by chris mays. this investigation we reported on this last summer and clearly she had easier targets. she could have focused on the 11 electors. chris mays came into office in january of last year and clearly intended to target and make it clear that this conspiracy was not only a threat to the 2020 election but also a 2022 election and potentially future elections and clearly made the decision to proceed and cast a wider net. what is notable about her indictments here is that the fact that she specifically outlines the fact that she contends the 11 electors, as well as these other seven who are indicted as well, that were trump attorneys or trump campaign officials, they intended to deceive the arizona voters. i want to read part of this. "defendants deceived the citizens of arizona by falsely claiming those votes were
these other seven individuals, the likes of john eastman, rudy giuliani, christina bobb, that are still rejected in this indictment because they have yet to be served here, these are individuals that were for targets here in part of a greater conspiracy that is outlined by chris mays. this investigation we reported on this last summer and clearly she had easier targets. she could have focused on the 11 electors. chris mays came into office in january of last year and clearly intended to target...
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john eastman had designed it and these are all lawyers who knew better. it started being something well in case we win one of these audits, at least we will have a slate of electors, into fake electors who lied and said we are the real elect yours and tried to get their names submitted contrary to the law. >> reporter: the numbers are really what this is all about. it reminds me of this quote back in the day talking about january 6 and how a lot of the rioters who showed up were morons, as he described them, but there were 15,000 of them. that is sort of what the danger was and when you have all of these individuals who might be clownish and rudy giuliani having that ridiculous press conference. there are millions of americans willing to believe those lies and i think having those numbers and having people, you know, who actually got law degrees at one point, willing to do this effort, is really what makes this dangerous. >> ryan, always great to have you on the show. thank you. ryan j. reilly is nbc news justice reporter and author of a remarkable book c
john eastman had designed it and these are all lawyers who knew better. it started being something well in case we win one of these audits, at least we will have a slate of electors, into fake electors who lied and said we are the real elect yours and tried to get their names submitted contrary to the law. >> reporter: the numbers are really what this is all about. it reminds me of this quote back in the day talking about january 6 and how a lot of the rioters who showed up were morons,...
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john eastman, he was known as the architect of the plan to halt. congress has certification of joe biden's presidential victory. he's facing possible disbarment and he's one of more than a dozen trump allies to be charged in the georgia election interference case so i should say he's pleaded not guilty, but you know, it's it's sort of an occupational hazard at this point. what are your thoughts? >> well, i think that it's really interesting to note that donald trump relied very heavily on the lawyers of course, john eastman who is about to have an announcement from california any our nile, where i believe that it will probably lead to an announcement of disbarment. you've got jeffrey clark who is disbarment hearing in washington do you started yesterday >> mr. >> trump relied upon the attorneys to wave a false flag of legitimacy for the attempt to overturn the election and specifically the eastman memo laid out the false electoral scheme, which was infamous and that led to his famous mug shot as well as all the others in georgia this, is going to b
john eastman, he was known as the architect of the plan to halt. congress has certification of joe biden's presidential victory. he's facing possible disbarment and he's one of more than a dozen trump allies to be charged in the georgia election interference case so i should say he's pleaded not guilty, but you know, it's it's sort of an occupational hazard at this point. what are your thoughts? >> well, i think that it's really interesting to note that donald trump relied very heavily on...
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. >> rudy giuliani, john eastman, mark meadows, names weaver in the past, suddenly back in the news. >> this is the first time he's been indicted, but also a former trump aide who remains to this day one of his closest advisors. >> this is obviously a big deal and like anyone else indicted he is presumed innocent. it is also, however, a big deal and a live issue in this new york case. defendant trump using boris as a lawyer and reporting on all of these issues. we have interviewed epshteyn repeatedly including when the early subpoenas hit. >> when you say you will provide evidence, does that mean your intent is to cooperate? >> i am happy to provide evidence of the overwhelming fraud that happened in the 2020 election. >> is your plan to try to force a vote in the house to reverse the election outcome? >> i had no idea there would be any violence at the capitol. there was absolutely a plan and a process for there to be challenges -- >> is that a yes? is that a yes? >> a process to challenge electoral votes. >> so we pressed on those issues and questions. epshteyn is now indicted alon
. >> rudy giuliani, john eastman, mark meadows, names weaver in the past, suddenly back in the news. >> this is the first time he's been indicted, but also a former trump aide who remains to this day one of his closest advisors. >> this is obviously a big deal and like anyone else indicted he is presumed innocent. it is also, however, a big deal and a live issue in this new york case. defendant trump using boris as a lawyer and reporting on all of these issues. we have...
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the former mayor is one of them, mark meadows is another, an attorney named john eastman, pushing the theory of the case most strongly. and a woman who oversees the election integrity, the republican national committee those charged. bottom line, the democratic attorney general of arizona said they tried to flaunt the rule of arizona ands. it is a case not unlike we are seeing in michigan, georgia, nevada and new mexico. a collection of republicans upset with, concerned about results of elections, trying to put forth their own slate of electors to the electoral college which was counted on january 6, 2021. sumi: trump is named as an unindicted co-conspirator. why was he not charged? >> it is unclear why not because he was in the georgia case where there is more evidence suggesting he was more actively involved. they have the audio recording of him telling state officials, help me find extra votes to flip the results. there does not appear to be that evidence in this case. beyond the fact he may have been texting arizona-based officials indicted here. it is mentioned several times, unm
the former mayor is one of them, mark meadows is another, an attorney named john eastman, pushing the theory of the case most strongly. and a woman who oversees the election integrity, the republican national committee those charged. bottom line, the democratic attorney general of arizona said they tried to flaunt the rule of arizona ands. it is a case not unlike we are seeing in michigan, georgia, nevada and new mexico. a collection of republicans upset with, concerned about results of...