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a supporter of jim jordan. that would bring the number of defections that jordan could afford on the first ballot down, obviously, a little bit. just look how this is going to play out alphabetically. these are the republicans we are keeping an eye on here. this is the big list. a lot of these are republicans who just haven't said -- maybe they haven't been tracked down by reporters. they haven't said anything publically. a lot from this big list we do think aren't on the fence and probably are going to be easy jordan votes. on the other hand, there's a lot on this list, starting with don bacon. don bacon from nebraska, from the congressional district in nebraska -- nebraska, they do the electoral votes in the presidential election by congressional district. bacon's from the district in nebraska that voted for joe biden, voted for joe biden by seven points. bacon has been saying, he is a no. he will be a no on jim jordan. right away, you could have a vote against jordan very early on the republican side. you ha
a supporter of jim jordan. that would bring the number of defections that jordan could afford on the first ballot down, obviously, a little bit. just look how this is going to play out alphabetically. these are the republicans we are keeping an eye on here. this is the big list. a lot of these are republicans who just haven't said -- maybe they haven't been tracked down by reporters. they haven't said anything publically. a lot from this big list we do think aren't on the fence and probably are...
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support jim jordan. multiple republicans and their spouses received death threats from trump jordan supporters. one member of congress even got evicted from his own office in his home district. yet, none of it has worked, none of it. instead, all week, we have watched jim jordan slowly bleed support in his bid for speaker. that all culminated in today's third floor vote, which saw mr. jordan received the fewest votes of any speaker candidate since the house became a 435 member body in the year 1929. and man, from there, it only got worse. republicans then met behind closed doors, and voted to officially a nominate jim jordan, to depose him as their nominee. in today's public speaker vote on the house floor, 25 republicans broke with their party to oppose jim jordan. but behind closed doors, jim jordan got 86 votes, which is less than half of the republican conference. 112 republicans voted by secret ballot to reject jim jordan as their nominee. >> i told the conference it was an honor to be there, speake
support jim jordan. multiple republicans and their spouses received death threats from trump jordan supporters. one member of congress even got evicted from his own office in his home district. yet, none of it has worked, none of it. instead, all week, we have watched jim jordan slowly bleed support in his bid for speaker. that all culminated in today's third floor vote, which saw mr. jordan received the fewest votes of any speaker candidate since the house became a 435 member body in the year...
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worse before it gets better for jim jordan here. they're not expecting his vote count to improve at all here. if anything he may end up losing a few more votes. we'll see how that plays out. but some of the conversations i've been having since coming off camera with you guys have been with other members of the conference, both on the republican and the democratic side, who are saying that whatever happens on this next balloting round, and it is widely expected that jordan will not have the votes he needs to become speaker, that they then want to move on to empowering the speaker pro tempore, patrick mchenry to do the business of the house, and notably we're listening to someone like steny hoyer, long time member of democratic leadership, now out of the capacity, but still very much dialed in with deep relationships here on capitol hill, he told me he didn't want to tell his leadership what to do, but he himself had conversations with republicans who are interested in installing mchenry in a more empowered capacity. the one thing tha
worse before it gets better for jim jordan here. they're not expecting his vote count to improve at all here. if anything he may end up losing a few more votes. we'll see how that plays out. but some of the conversations i've been having since coming off camera with you guys have been with other members of the conference, both on the republican and the democratic side, who are saying that whatever happens on this next balloting round, and it is widely expected that jordan will not have the...
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jim jordan is an arch insurrectionist. in addition to everything else, you have the situation where, if he becomes speaker, third in line of presidential succession is someone who actively tried to overturn the constitutional government. on behalf of donald trump. that is also, put it lightly, very disturbing. >> yes, never forget that. it is such a whirlwind of events, being euphemistic, of house republican conference. you'd think they shouldn't even use name plates on the speakers doors. maybe just a drier race board. and they can just write the name of whoever has the job for however long. they last. jamelle bouie four, the new york times, always good to see. you thank you, my friend. >> thank you. >> when we come back. the aftermath of the devastating airstrike on a hospital in gaza that was sheltering civilians, and the fight to get more innocent people out of harm's way. that is next. if we want a more viable future for our kids, we need to find more sustainable ways of doing things. america's plastic makers are inve
jim jordan is an arch insurrectionist. in addition to everything else, you have the situation where, if he becomes speaker, third in line of presidential succession is someone who actively tried to overturn the constitutional government. on behalf of donald trump. that is also, put it lightly, very disturbing. >> yes, never forget that. it is such a whirlwind of events, being euphemistic, of house republican conference. you'd think they shouldn't even use name plates on the speakers...
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jim jordan especially. my colleague from ohio. i just never saw a guy who spent more time tearing things apart, never building anything. never putting anything together. >> kevin mccarthy with the exact same majority that you had and you were able to be very effective as speaker with that majority, he couldn't do anything. he couldn't accomplish a thing other than get himself ousted when he was speaker. what would the house of representatives look like with somebody who john boehner has called a political terrorist in charge? what would happen? are we going to have a government shutdown? what happens? >> let me say, first of all, i had a majority of two. there were five and then there were four and then three. >> then two. >> yeah. so it was an even slimmer majority than what they have. but let's just take it to the public. president lincoln said, public sentiment is everything. with it you can accomplish almost anything. without it, practically nothing. the public has to understand what is at stake. our democracy is at stake. wha
jim jordan especially. my colleague from ohio. i just never saw a guy who spent more time tearing things apart, never building anything. never putting anything together. >> kevin mccarthy with the exact same majority that you had and you were able to be very effective as speaker with that majority, he couldn't do anything. he couldn't accomplish a thing other than get himself ousted when he was speaker. what would the house of representatives look like with somebody who john boehner has...
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ali, we heard from jim jordan. he spoke to his republican caucus trying to rally the votes, trying to win over the holdouts. did he change anyone's minds? >> reporter: it doesn't appear he did. you got to imagine if jim jordan were going into this vote with any more new support, he would have announced it this morning around 8:00 a.m. when he held forth with reporters. what we it get was a lesson on the wright brothers and the idea that the house does need to elect a speaker. i'm not going into this vote anticipating that jordan is going to have any new ground swell of support. that would be welcome news for jordan allies. at the same time, when we listen to them do effectively their home room attendance roll call, it will look one number different we expect because there is one member that we think might not be present today. we'll wait to see when his name comes up in the roll call to be sure. it is someone if we're right is a jordan backer, which would mean jordan is down one yes vote today. we'll be playing the
ali, we heard from jim jordan. he spoke to his republican caucus trying to rally the votes, trying to win over the holdouts. did he change anyone's minds? >> reporter: it doesn't appear he did. you got to imagine if jim jordan were going into this vote with any more new support, he would have announced it this morning around 8:00 a.m. when he held forth with reporters. what we it get was a lesson on the wright brothers and the idea that the house does need to elect a speaker. i'm not...
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jim jordan from becoming speaker. he is sending out these messages and are other members pointing the finger at him? he is the one who triggered all of this by triggering the motion to vacate. is he getting any blowback for the threats as fellow members are receiving? >> not that i can tell. mccarthy did condemn gaetz for fundraising off of this. whether or not it was his fault, i don't actually know. but gaetz is not someone who was ever here to make new friends by motioning to vacate against mccarthy. and i think that most people that are murmuring behind his back and in the media saying this is why we're here are the exact same people that were never too keen on matt gaetz any way. i'm not sure there was ever a permission structure where matt gaetz gets his from within the conference for putting him in this situation. they're frustrated with him then. frustrated with him now. i don't know that it's any different. >> tara, you worked on the hill. have you ever heard of a cable television host, sean hannity and his p
jim jordan from becoming speaker. he is sending out these messages and are other members pointing the finger at him? he is the one who triggered all of this by triggering the motion to vacate. is he getting any blowback for the threats as fellow members are receiving? >> not that i can tell. mccarthy did condemn gaetz for fundraising off of this. whether or not it was his fault, i don't actually know. but gaetz is not someone who was ever here to make new friends by motioning to vacate...
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who will stop jim jordan tomorrow? i think it is actually the appropriators in the congress, the republican appropriators to believe that they have chief conservative results by keeping the government open. jim jordan is a shutdown conservative, appropriator to govern. i think jordan will come up and the house floor. he would not have the votes because governing conservatives will lead out shutdown conservatives. >> matthew, i want you to do some moderate math for us. what is a worse deal for moderate republicans? to hold their nose and work with jim jordan or cover their ears and work with democrats? >> i mean, if you are looking at this from a pure political calculation of those 18 members in biden districts, clearly did a political delegation, for them to win their own districts in that case, it would be much better for them to pair up with democrats and sort themselves through this then pair up with jim jordan, who on almost every single issue, is out of step with moderate voters, which don't have to elect those re
who will stop jim jordan tomorrow? i think it is actually the appropriators in the congress, the republican appropriators to believe that they have chief conservative results by keeping the government open. jim jordan is a shutdown conservative, appropriator to govern. i think jordan will come up and the house floor. he would not have the votes because governing conservatives will lead out shutdown conservatives. >> matthew, i want you to do some moderate math for us. what is a worse deal...
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obviously, we saw that wasn't the case yesterday with jim jordan. i reported on this network earlier there were at least six republican who is are come out ahead of that the vote, which would have been enough to sink his bid, which we saw happening, but that number swelled to 20. so whether or not jim jordan takes the nomination back to the floor, he's planning to do so. as of now, there's a vote scheduled for 11:00 a.m. where he will have this second ball lot. there's one republican who vote ed against jim jordan yesterday who is planning to support him today. a republican are california, yesterday he says he will support jim jordan. there's a risk here. when jim jordan brings his nomination to the floor, he could lose more republicans. there were 20 republicans who voted for a candidate other than jim jordan yesterday. there's thought that number could increase today. or just because some folks saud they would give jim jordan a shot on the first billion lot, but if it was clear he couldn't get it, they go sm somewhere else. 11:00 a.m. is when a vo
obviously, we saw that wasn't the case yesterday with jim jordan. i reported on this network earlier there were at least six republican who is are come out ahead of that the vote, which would have been enough to sink his bid, which we saw happening, but that number swelled to 20. so whether or not jim jordan takes the nomination back to the floor, he's planning to do so. as of now, there's a vote scheduled for 11:00 a.m. where he will have this second ball lot. there's one republican who vote...
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jim jordan does it with a scowl. should he be elevated to speaker -- matt gaetz. -- however reviled he is. there's been some hope, and maybe house moderates or traditional republicans, whatever you want to call them, will stand up against jordan. but right now, to have 55 knows 48 hours ago, and it looks like all those nose are nothing but a bunch of susan collins, about ready to hand the speakership too jim jordan. >> and the fact that the moderates who have numbers are just so cowardly also says something about the party. let me ask you about the other thing. let me put up the last five house speaker. it was kevin mccarthy, who is 15 votes and didn't make it. paul ryan, john boehner, denys hastert. also newt gingrich, who obviously went down with the scandal and lost a disappointing midterm. dennis was accused of child molestation. child molestations! that's in their recent history. and yet, there are members of the ohio state wrestling alumni who believe eight people said that doctor richard stressed his behavior
jim jordan does it with a scowl. should he be elevated to speaker -- matt gaetz. -- however reviled he is. there's been some hope, and maybe house moderates or traditional republicans, whatever you want to call them, will stand up against jordan. but right now, to have 55 knows 48 hours ago, and it looks like all those nose are nothing but a bunch of susan collins, about ready to hand the speakership too jim jordan. >> and the fact that the moderates who have numbers are just so cowardly...
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jim jordan does say he wants a third vote tomorrow. some say reating a losing vote process is giving kevin mccarthy vibes, basically that this feels like some kind of weird now fangled tradition where you just keep getting your vote on, although mccarthy did ultimately get to the gavel that way. there's also a wider oosition to jordan. "the new york times" noted jordan's second defeat is a rare instance of the party's mainstream wing. normally those who seek compromise flexing its muscles and breaking with republican colleagues in defiance of the ultra conservative faction led by mr. jordan. and of course that ultra conservative freedom faction has donald trump, the most recent president, backing jim jordan. even that hasn't been enough to drag him across the line, at least as of today. the house speakership has been vacant 15 days since the rebellion, and we have two excellent experts to walk us through what happens next. alk us through what happens next. and see that my lines have gotten deeper just from a year out in the sun. i'm st
jim jordan does say he wants a third vote tomorrow. some say reating a losing vote process is giving kevin mccarthy vibes, basically that this feels like some kind of weird now fangled tradition where you just keep getting your vote on, although mccarthy did ultimately get to the gavel that way. there's also a wider oosition to jordan. "the new york times" noted jordan's second defeat is a rare instance of the party's mainstream wing. normally those who seek compromise flexing its...
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jim jordan did not have the votes. here is the thing though, there were the people that we were expecting to vote against jordan, people like ken buck, people like mario dÍaz-balart. all of those people came through in a way that we thought they would. but then there are the problems that i don't think the jordan team saw coming, and many of us were caught off guard by as well. i know some democrats who thought that when the chairwoman of the -- committee, grainger, voted against jordan, they thought that she might have made a mistake. that is a pretty important key vote not to have seen coming, and it does spell signs of deeper trouble for jordan. of course, who's spending these important hours in an overnight period tried to talk to members who say that they are against him. there are some cohorts who have dug in. i think it's important to point out in your introduction here, is how many different pieces this touches. when reporters on capitol hill talk about the fact that january six looms large over everything, th
jim jordan did not have the votes. here is the thing though, there were the people that we were expecting to vote against jordan, people like ken buck, people like mario dÍaz-balart. all of those people came through in a way that we thought they would. but then there are the problems that i don't think the jordan team saw coming, and many of us were caught off guard by as well. i know some democrats who thought that when the chairwoman of the -- committee, grainger, voted against jordan, they...
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we trust jim jordan. i'm nominating him, and i'm voting for him. >> tonight, jamie raskin on why a jim jordan speakership will mean for the country. then, the explicit democratic appeal for republicans to join them. >> we are ready, willing, unable to work together for a republican colleagues, but it is on them to join us. >> plus, new reporting on nuclear secrets shared with customers in donald trump's resort. >> mar-a-lago was a honey pot for the intelligence community. it's their worst nightmare. >> and why the republicans think they can run the dr. oz playbook again in pennsylvania. >> that's $20 for cruditÉs. it doesn't include the tequila. >> when all in starts, right now. >> good evening from new york. i'm chris hayes. happy friday. when last we left the house republican caucus, they were flirting openly with the idea of anointing donald trump as their speaker, speaker of the house for the entire united states. this is the man, of course, who system of on the same capitol building in an attempt to
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but then jim jordan, to your poin jim jordan is not just a sympathizer. on january 5th, the day before january 6th, he is texting mark meadows, then chief of staff to donald trump, saying here's some advice for a bike -- don't count those votes. just claimed that they're not valid, and basically delay the electoral vote count. jim jordan participated in the plans for this insurrection on january 6th. it's like, you don't -- you're mad at matt gaetz for resulting in this chaos, where there is no leadership in the house for the republicans, but then you're going to allow somebody who's just as bad as matt gaetz, if not worse, to end up being the speaker of the house? make it make sense, because it doesn't. >> it doesn't make sense, and this is the burn it all down caucus. they want to burn it all down, but they're starting with themselves. i think that jim jordan at best is an insurrection hobbyist. there were all of these text messages, i mean, the man worked really hard to try -- he was involved in a number of different ways. i think they've got themselve
but then jim jordan, to your poin jim jordan is not just a sympathizer. on january 5th, the day before january 6th, he is texting mark meadows, then chief of staff to donald trump, saying here's some advice for a bike -- don't count those votes. just claimed that they're not valid, and basically delay the electoral vote count. jim jordan participated in the plans for this insurrection on january 6th. it's like, you don't -- you're mad at matt gaetz for resulting in this chaos, where there is no...
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jim jordan will make very sure of that. if he comes to a point and realizes these people are not going to fold, i can't get there, you'll hear about republicans voting to empower mchenry because they have to do these things. >> brendan, i know you have other obligations, thank you for being with us. so, tim, what do you think jordan does now to get members to switch to yes? what's happening behind the scenes? >> look, so i'm skeptical of that short term mchenry plan. i think the advantage that jordan has right now is there isn't really an alternative. the alternative is nothing. it's continuing to not have a speaker. i don't think there are a lot of republican votes for empowering mchenry. they would have to get democrats to go along with that. that gets us into the fantasy politics deal of republicans negotiating with democrats to come up with a speaker. i wish that would happen. maybe we'll get to that point, we won't get to that point today but i think it's unlikely. if you're jordan, brendan saids he's not one to negoti
jim jordan will make very sure of that. if he comes to a point and realizes these people are not going to fold, i can't get there, you'll hear about republicans voting to empower mchenry because they have to do these things. >> brendan, i know you have other obligations, thank you for being with us. so, tim, what do you think jordan does now to get members to switch to yes? what's happening behind the scenes? >> look, so i'm skeptical of that short term mchenry plan. i think the...
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he is insistent he will vote for jim jordan on the floor. we almost have to reconfigure the way we look at this, there may be a new group of separatists, if you will, that could derail this process. we should also point out is that jim jordan himself never committed to supporting who won this private ballot, this majority private ballot, and it was jim jordan and his -- who was supporting the idea that they not leave until someone with 217 guaranteed votes emerged with the nominee. so there is a lot at play right now that we're all just digesting as we're leaving. we may have to kind of take a completely different look at this than the way we did it before. it won't be just easy enough to look at those eight that voted against kevin mccarthy because now there's a whole new set of alliances and allies and factions and issues within the republican party that still need to be hashed out before there's a new speaker of the house. >> and all this with a war going on and urgent need for speaker of the house. michael steele, what kind of look is th
he is insistent he will vote for jim jordan on the floor. we almost have to reconfigure the way we look at this, there may be a new group of separatists, if you will, that could derail this process. we should also point out is that jim jordan himself never committed to supporting who won this private ballot, this majority private ballot, and it was jim jordan and his -- who was supporting the idea that they not leave until someone with 217 guaranteed votes emerged with the nominee. so there is...
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jim jordan, of course, sounding optimistic. but again, i don't expect him to get this on the first or even second ballot. this first ballot is likely going to be a chance for anyone who is reluctant or a no vote for jordan to air those grievances in real time. they will vote against him. my understanding from my sources is that jordan is prepared to go for several balloting rounds here, and frankly, so are we. >> i think back to kevin mccarthy and how it took 15 rounds of voting for him to end up speaker. obviously, there's been a lot of drama with his speakership ending. do you think we could see another 15 rounds here? >> reporter: i don't know if i'm ready to handicap it at 15. i think the over/under that i've been seeing in my text messages with lawmakers and sources is three or four rounds of balloting. some, like former speaker kevin mccarthy, are saying he thinks jordan is going to get it on the first. i think that might be overly optimistic and rosie from the former leader of the conference. it's a sign jordan has been
jim jordan, of course, sounding optimistic. but again, i don't expect him to get this on the first or even second ballot. this first ballot is likely going to be a chance for anyone who is reluctant or a no vote for jordan to air those grievances in real time. they will vote against him. my understanding from my sources is that jordan is prepared to go for several balloting rounds here, and frankly, so are we. >> i think back to kevin mccarthy and how it took 15 rounds of voting for him...
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le don't like jim jordan >> why not? >> because he's been a huge nit legislatively for the last 16 years and made no bones about that. this is not somebody setting himself up for a race for speaker. he's just not. it's somebody who has been going along to get along and that's his persona. if i were team jordan, i'd be looking at people like david joyce voted for jordan, cool on jordan, i bet he switches. i think it's possible that meeks from iowa switches. i think it's possible -- to be honest, we don't need to go through all this. i don't see a path at all. i think he goes one more vote and that could be it for him. i think that's the reality. >> could part of the problem be he spent the weekend pressuring these republicans and calling on republican influencers on social media and in the media world to harass them and go after them along with all of their supporters? could that have turned them off as well? >> the outside game does not work in speaker and leadership races. it never does. i don't know why people don't le
le don't like jim jordan >> why not? >> because he's been a huge nit legislatively for the last 16 years and made no bones about that. this is not somebody setting himself up for a race for speaker. he's just not. it's somebody who has been going along to get along and that's his persona. if i were team jordan, i'd be looking at people like david joyce voted for jordan, cool on jordan, i bet he switches. i think it's possible that meeks from iowa switches. i think it's possible --...
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she ended up voting for jim jordan. so victoria sparts from indiana who had voted against jordan yesterday, she becomes the second anti-jordan vote who flipped. doug llama fa, california, victoria sparts from indiana, both yeses on jordan. the other 18 who were noes yesterday continue to be knows. and we mentioned those four other new no votes. it means jordan had a net loss from the first vote to this new vote, he had a net loss of two votes. there were 20 against him yesterday in the first ballot, it will be 22 against him on this second ballot. >> well, garrett, i'm no mathematician, but that means you're going in the wrong direction. so patrick mchenry, still going to be pressure on him, pressure on the democrats to join if patrick mchenry is put forward as an extended, temporary, but empowered speaker. >> yeah, look, i think the pressure is still on the republican side here. i mean, democrats have made it very clear they're sort of waiting with open hand, but republicans have to extend the hand first, right? like d
she ended up voting for jim jordan. so victoria sparts from indiana who had voted against jordan yesterday, she becomes the second anti-jordan vote who flipped. doug llama fa, california, victoria sparts from indiana, both yeses on jordan. the other 18 who were noes yesterday continue to be knows. and we mentioned those four other new no votes. it means jordan had a net loss from the first vote to this new vote, he had a net loss of two votes. there were 20 against him yesterday in the first...
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jim jordan hasn't had that luxury. and also, the fundamental reasons behind why people are opposing jim jordan are very different than the ones for the reasons that people oppose kevin mccarthy. and they are not all the same. if you talk to the republican delegation in new york, they have very different concerns than those that supported steve scalise and were upset that steve scalise was unceremoniously booted from his opportunity to get a vote on the floor. so, all these fundamental problems make it very difficult to see a path for jim jordan to become the next speaker of the house and if you talk to some of these holdouts, i was in a gaggle earlier with steve womack who said, he believes that there are going to be more people that vote against jim jordan if it comes to the floor again. so at this point, i really don't know what the path is for jim jordan or for that many matter, any republican, in becoming the next speaker of the house. >> i heard that is well from steve womack, a few others that basically, there's
jim jordan hasn't had that luxury. and also, the fundamental reasons behind why people are opposing jim jordan are very different than the ones for the reasons that people oppose kevin mccarthy. and they are not all the same. if you talk to the republican delegation in new york, they have very different concerns than those that supported steve scalise and were upset that steve scalise was unceremoniously booted from his opportunity to get a vote on the floor. so, all these fundamental problems...
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nobody knows if jim jordan is going up or down from there. i've heard both side os that argument today, and if not him, then who? i don't have the answer for you. but jackie al mayny might. we're back talking politics and governing after the break. vegorning after the break. it's easy to get lost in investment research. introducing j.p. morgan personal advisors. hey david. connect with an advisor to create your personalized plan. let's find the right investments for your goals okay, great. j.p....
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if that means making jim jordan the majority leader, he needs jim jordan on his side. we'll have to see. if jim jordan were to turn on him and support for scalise was soft, if he starts playing games, this could get ugly really quick. i'm talking about the republican conference breaking out into the open entirely. steve scalise, i think, is perhaps unfairly suffering just from the fact he was in leadership, and anybody who distrusts leadership, he was number two to mccarthy, so he doesn't have the outsider, but if this were to fall apart, and jim jordan were to wash his hands of it, i don't know how we would be able to come back together. he's in a powerful spot right now. >> i have heard skepticism and worry about his health. he's got blood cancer and would he be able to do the sort of traveling that a speaker needs to do in order to raise money, which is a big part of the job. brendan buck, thank you very much. let's bring in nbc news capitol hill correspondent, ali vitali. any indication on when the vote will be? >> reporter: no, katy, as we just reported a few minu
if that means making jim jordan the majority leader, he needs jim jordan on his side. we'll have to see. if jim jordan were to turn on him and support for scalise was soft, if he starts playing games, this could get ugly really quick. i'm talking about the republican conference breaking out into the open entirely. steve scalise, i think, is perhaps unfairly suffering just from the fact he was in leadership, and anybody who distrusts leadership, he was number two to mccarthy, so he doesn't have...
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yeah jim jordan i mean the democrats and i said this before, the fact that jim jordan was even 25 votes away the democrats can use this. they can use this in campaigns next year and they need to. they're way them public ends vilified nancy pelosi or vilified the squad, it did not matter what you are running for, it could've been local dog catcher they tied them to nancy pelosi democrats have an opportunity to actually use what people like jim jordan and the maga extremists have said over and over again to help them and remind people next year this is who was almost in power the republicans can't govern. do you really want these people in charge michael mccaul who's been in congress for 20-year says that this was one of the most embarrassing moments in his time in congress the idea that they can't elect a speaker but guess what see boated for jim jordan. >> you bring up an interesting point to you have 200 on the first round. for voting for jim jordan that is a substantial number of people who wanted a person who is no election denier to be the second in command of the house and my quest
yeah jim jordan i mean the democrats and i said this before, the fact that jim jordan was even 25 votes away the democrats can use this. they can use this in campaigns next year and they need to. they're way them public ends vilified nancy pelosi or vilified the squad, it did not matter what you are running for, it could've been local dog catcher they tied them to nancy pelosi democrats have an opportunity to actually use what people like jim jordan and the maga extremists have said over and...
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and jim jordan did try that. he tried that trump strategy, and trump has made thuggishness and political violence standard in the republican party. i think that is to me the most stunning thing. that he's normalized the idea of political violence so much that nancy mace says, it's just part of the job to get death threats. really? so that's where we are now? i guess that's where we are now, at least among republicans. >> keep in mind the playbook did not work this time. the good news is that you had more than 20 republicans that stood up against donald trump. steve bannon, and thought that the idea of electing jim jordan was too absurd and dangerous. the bad news is the chaos is going to continue because the conference itself is the chaos. this remains trump's party. this remains a party that is still afraid of what steve bannon has to say. and for steve bannon, this kind of chaos, this kind of fear is a ladder. this is his brand. and he has to be very, very frustrated that it did not work this time. again, maybe
and jim jordan did try that. he tried that trump strategy, and trump has made thuggishness and political violence standard in the republican party. i think that is to me the most stunning thing. that he's normalized the idea of political violence so much that nancy mace says, it's just part of the job to get death threats. really? so that's where we are now? i guess that's where we are now, at least among republicans. >> keep in mind the playbook did not work this time. the good news is...
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jordan, the craziness and deplorability of jim jordan. >> it seems like jim jordan is a structural problem for republicans as well. if he wants to leave the chamber, it seems problematic to have someone whose name was on the 2020 ballot and isn't the questioning the voracity of his own re-election but won't acknowledge joe biden's election. it seems like even if you wanted to -- how do you impeach someone who you don't acknowledge is the president of the united states, charlie? >> that's just one aspect of jim jordan's unsuitability for this office. you know, he has always been -- he was described by john boehner, former republican speaker, we're not talking about a democrat, republican speaker, as a legislative terrorist, somebody who just tears things down. who blocks things, who tries to humiliate and undermine his own colleagues or certainly his colleagues who try to be grown-ups by getting things done. so now you're seeing this come around for him, and i think that, again, you mentioned it's a structural problem. whatever happens here, this house is going to remain in chaos. what i th
jordan, the craziness and deplorability of jim jordan. >> it seems like jim jordan is a structural problem for republicans as well. if he wants to leave the chamber, it seems problematic to have someone whose name was on the 2020 ballot and isn't the questioning the voracity of his own re-election but won't acknowledge joe biden's election. it seems like even if you wanted to -- how do you impeach someone who you don't acknowledge is the president of the united states, charlie? >>...
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now we know jim jordan, steve scalise both officially running. how is this race shaping up and what are you hearing on the hill? >> reporter: well, chris, we start with these two candidates, but i don't know that we'll end with just these two. these are perhaps the most well known members of the republican conference l standing here. scalise, the current number two behind kevin mccarthy, long time member of the conference, a significant support base, and jim jordan, a founding member o. house freedom caucus, leads the judiciary committee, a key figure if the impeachment area. announcing his decision, he says he basically got drafted into this race and made an interesting claim about where he thinks he can draw support. listen to what he told reporters. >> i have a lot of members who reached out to us saying -- and the moderates in our conference. >> reporter: it's going to be that outreach to the moderates, chris, that i'll be watching very closely here. that is not exactly been jordan's reputation in his time on the hill. he did ally himself pre
now we know jim jordan, steve scalise both officially running. how is this race shaping up and what are you hearing on the hill? >> reporter: well, chris, we start with these two candidates, but i don't know that we'll end with just these two. these are perhaps the most well known members of the republican conference l standing here. scalise, the current number two behind kevin mccarthy, long time member of the conference, a significant support base, and jim jordan, a founding member o....
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now he's also backing jim jordan. we'll get into that, but that's nut the only capitol related story involving the former president. we'll explain when we come right back. president. we'll explain when we come right back >>> welcome back to "way too early." it is exactly 5:30 a.m. on the east coast, 2:30 out west on this friday morning. i'm jonathan lemire, thank you for being with us. donald trump may soon visit the u.s. capitol in an effort to help house republicans elect a new speaker and unify the party. sources are telling nbc news, the former president may visit the capitol early next week. if he does, it would be his first time there since the january 6th insurrection. this potential visit comes as a few republicans suggested trump run for speaker of himself. you don't have to be member of the house to be a speaker. while the gop front-runner says he's remaining committed to running for president, he did entertain the idea for a little while yesterday but then a short time later endorsed jim jordan for speaker
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the reason he likes jim jordan's because jim jordan leads that law firm. jim jordan would be a lawless speaker. he has 500 days plus into defying his own congressional subpoena for what he saw on january 6th. so of course donald trump wants that. a look at my republican colleagues, ali, and i see crabs in a bucket. these guys are just trying to pull us all in to the chaos that they all crave, and democrats continue to show unity, unity to lift the debt ceiling, to keep the government open, to make sure we keep ukraine in the fight, and we're going to stay united, all the way through, because we're working for working people, and we will let them continue to be chaotic, and we will get the keys to government back in 13 months. >> joyce, the reason this conversation is important in the context in which we're having right now, is that donald trump has had a pretty good week as far as congress goes. he, his influence has proved disproportionate to his influence elsewhere. not working as well for him on the legal front. he is team his claimed a remarkable victo
the reason he likes jim jordan's because jim jordan leads that law firm. jim jordan would be a lawless speaker. he has 500 days plus into defying his own congressional subpoena for what he saw on january 6th. so of course donald trump wants that. a look at my republican colleagues, ali, and i see crabs in a bucket. these guys are just trying to pull us all in to the chaos that they all crave, and democrats continue to show unity, unity to lift the debt ceiling, to keep the government open, to...
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jim jordan does not have the votes. john boehner, your old boss -- i was trying to imagine him sitting at home watching this and getting a chuckle. is. >> big chuckle. >> something tells me he may not even be watching. >> probably not. >> let me ask you what this tells us. does tell us something about the power of the far right? obviously they had the power to oust mccarthy, they did not have the power to install jordan or is this something completely different? >> they've always had power to stop things, and they've been very good of stopping things. now they're getting a little bit of their own medicine. now the centrists are saying we're going to stop your guy. this was a decision by a lot of people that they are not going to reward bad behavior. jim jordan lost the election in the conference for speaker, and what ended up happening is his folks, as they always do, ended up hijacking the plans of the conference. they'd hijack steve scalise's speakership and took him out. they can turn around and say now we're going t
jim jordan does not have the votes. john boehner, your old boss -- i was trying to imagine him sitting at home watching this and getting a chuckle. is. >> big chuckle. >> something tells me he may not even be watching. >> probably not. >> let me ask you what this tells us. does tell us something about the power of the far right? obviously they had the power to oust mccarthy, they did not have the power to install jordan or is this something completely different? >>...
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they had put jim jordan's out of this misery. jim jordan actually wanted to be speaker. he did everything he could to say what he had to say, and he couldn't get there. i think this turns the page. i think it is back to square one, but i think it's important to have any path forward. >> he needed a glass of water at the end of this week because that is the 30th i've ever seen jim jordan. he definitely was trying to reach for it. to liam's point, i think the coalition way of thinking about it is how narrow the math is, it also does seem to me that there is a deeper question here animating this, and you have written about this. what is the animating purpose here? what is the binding glue that binds this group together? once upon a time you might say we're here to repeal the affordable care act. or we're here to cut corporate taxes, like they do the last time around. it's very hard to come up with that answer which is a big part of the problem. >> right before they got to the speaker fight, the precipitating incident was this looming a vermont shot down. i still can't tell
they had put jim jordan's out of this misery. jim jordan actually wanted to be speaker. he did everything he could to say what he had to say, and he couldn't get there. i think this turns the page. i think it is back to square one, but i think it's important to have any path forward. >> he needed a glass of water at the end of this week because that is the 30th i've ever seen jim jordan. he definitely was trying to reach for it. to liam's point, i think the coalition way of thinking about...
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that's what jim jordan has always been about. the new dynamic that really hasn't existed before is the centrists who have finally stood up for themselves and said we're not going to let you break things anymore without consequences. he's getting a little bit of his own medicine here where a relatively small number is saying you can't have this. you sabotaged steve scalise, you basically have hijacked this entire conference. the power dynamic between conference are going to shift. the reality is nobody is in charge. there's a vacuum. everybody is trying to figure out where they can sit. i think jim jordan is going to figure out what role he wants to play. >> the american people really suffer because nothing is happening, and the legislative process has come to a halt, and so ali, you talk about this idea of the current speaker pro tempore getting additional powers at least temporarily. we're talking about patrick mchenry, does he want more responsibility right now? >> reporter: i don't know that he even wants to be in the position
that's what jim jordan has always been about. the new dynamic that really hasn't existed before is the centrists who have finally stood up for themselves and said we're not going to let you break things anymore without consequences. he's getting a little bit of his own medicine here where a relatively small number is saying you can't have this. you sabotaged steve scalise, you basically have hijacked this entire conference. the power dynamic between conference are going to shift. the reality is...
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>> i like jim jordan, i'm voting for jim jordan, but i don't agree with him on every subject, and i don't agree that what would be best for the house of representatives is a temporary speaker pro tem. i think we need to elect a speaker. we've got great folks in our conference. jim jordan sits atop that list, and i look forward to voting for him again today. >> reporter: one last question, how icy was in that room. i heard it got pretty intense. >> i'm not for everyone, as it turns out. i have my detractors, i'm an attorney by trade. i don't get emotional about the presentation of arguments and listening to other people's arguments, doesn't affect how i think about people. i was there to make the substantiative argument that speaker light is a bad idea, just like bud light, but i far prefer us continuing to have votes going forward, and you know, when i hold out with speaker mccarthy, we had goals. we had specific things we were fighting for. i think a reasonable question to those holding out and not voting for jordan, what are you fighting for? what are your goals? what are your objective
>> i like jim jordan, i'm voting for jim jordan, but i don't agree with him on every subject, and i don't agree that what would be best for the house of representatives is a temporary speaker pro tem. i think we need to elect a speaker. we've got great folks in our conference. jim jordan sits atop that list, and i look forward to voting for him again today. >> reporter: one last question, how icy was in that room. i heard it got pretty intense. >> i'm not for everyone, as it...
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jim jordan made a decision, he wasn't going to win. i think what he's trying to do is demonstrate good behavior over the next few months until these people who been holding out, i can be a team player, i can work with patrick mchenry. the fact he's not dropping out is important for a couple of reasons. one, of course, it empowers patrick mchenry, but it also means he's still the leader of the republican conference. >> jim jordan? >> jim jordan is effectively the leader of the republican conference, elected by his colleagues to be the number one spot. you have mchenry jordan power sharing within the conference. not clear to me who will be making decisions. who is deciding what we bring up? >> the fact that scalise got more votes the last time and decided not to run, would that give him any power there? >> i think scalise is dropping himself out of it. they had another election and jordan has now taken that over, over austin scott. so you have patrick mchenry, in charge of the house, you have jim jordan, in charge of the house republican
jim jordan made a decision, he wasn't going to win. i think what he's trying to do is demonstrate good behavior over the next few months until these people who been holding out, i can be a team player, i can work with patrick mchenry. the fact he's not dropping out is important for a couple of reasons. one, of course, it empowers patrick mchenry, but it also means he's still the leader of the republican conference. >> jim jordan? >> jim jordan is effectively the leader of the...
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i'm a no to jim jordan. the tactics that his followers have used against fellow republicans i think are something we shouldn't tolerate. you can take away all my committees, put me in the basement, i'm committed to my vote. >> the question is, if there's that many people recoil, then what's going to happen tomorrow? >> where do they go? they go through the process. the thinking is if we force a vote on the floor, this will embarrass the party, which i find laughable at this point, but okay, we'll play. it's going to be embarrassing if you have to go through more than one vote, and that will bring people around to jim jordan. no, it won't. you just heard a member go, this is a coup. i don't want to participate in a coup. the coup began with eight members of the republican caucus kicked mccarthy out. so, you can't even mansplain this. >> jim jordan may have experience, but they -- >> he wouldn't show up for the subpoena. this is the guy now you're going to put in to rep the constitutional principles that, you
i'm a no to jim jordan. the tactics that his followers have used against fellow republicans i think are something we shouldn't tolerate. you can take away all my committees, put me in the basement, i'm committed to my vote. >> the question is, if there's that many people recoil, then what's going to happen tomorrow? >> where do they go? they go through the process. the thinking is if we force a vote on the floor, this will embarrass the party, which i find laughable at this point,...
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jim jordan, that's not the case. if you would have told me recently that jim jordan would have told ali vitali he needs to bring folks together, that's not what he has been known for for years. that's changed over the last year and a half or so. both of these guys are going to have the same history of getting it to 218. they represent two different sides of the republican. at the heart is the republican party trying to figure out who it is. do they want someone who is battle tested and knows that they have to figure out how at the end of the day to get the government funded, or someone like jim jordan who they think is probably ready to throw a few more bombs, at least until the shutdown. that's the question for a lot of the republicans. that's the question for these two guys. can you get to 218? how do you do it? what promises do you make? the moderates, they want someone who is not going to have this motion to vacate hanging over their head. they have to figure out how to move that and get matt gaetz on board. >> j
jim jordan, that's not the case. if you would have told me recently that jim jordan would have told ali vitali he needs to bring folks together, that's not what he has been known for for years. that's changed over the last year and a half or so. both of these guys are going to have the same history of getting it to 218. they represent two different sides of the republican. at the heart is the republican party trying to figure out who it is. do they want someone who is battle tested and knows...
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these are the republicans who voted against jim jordan. there were 22 of them. overnight, there were a number of other republicans who started to issue statements that they would jump ship. they had been voting for jordan, they would jump ship. he was redheading in the wrong direction. this was going to get worse. i think two things that are worth keeping in mind. it's a huge if here, but if this deal with mchenry taking over with more expanded powers for a limited period, if they are able to get there -- which seems to be what they are trying to do -- let's say it's through january 3rd, republicans are going to find themselves on january 3rd right back where they are right now. if jim jordan remains the speaker designee and they try to put him through on january 3rd as the full-time speaker, they're going to get no democratic votes for it. they will need a bunch of these republicans who have been voting no to flip. the way the math works now -- which is not going to change between now and january -- any republican candidate for speaker can only afford five repu
these are the republicans who voted against jim jordan. there were 22 of them. overnight, there were a number of other republicans who started to issue statements that they would jump ship. they had been voting for jordan, they would jump ship. he was redheading in the wrong direction. this was going to get worse. i think two things that are worth keeping in mind. it's a huge if here, but if this deal with mchenry taking over with more expanded powers for a limited period, if they are able to...
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jim jordan lost a second ballot today. and brendan buck if you're on the gop gridlock and what it all means for that aid to israel as "the 11th hour" gets underway on a wednesday night. y night. the power goes out and we still have wifi to do our homework. and that's a good thing? great in my book! who are you? no power? no problem. introducing storm-ready wifi. now you can stay reliably connected through power outages with unlimited cellular data and up to 4 hours of battery back-up to keep you online. only from xfinity. home of the xfinity 10g network. >> we are starting to get details about the kind of funding the biden white house wants to send to help israel during this war. three sources tell nbc news that the supplemental aid package would add up to around 100 billion dollars between israel, ukraine, taiwan, and the southern border. the numbers are not final and, of course, congress cannot pass anything until the house elect speaker. joining me tonight, for the democratic congressman jared moskowitz. congressman, th
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does jim jordan have the votes? >> yeah, well, that remains to be seen. we have similar reporting to jake sherman, which last night we had around ten or more gop lawmakers who were still hard nosed, some still voting for former speaker kevin mccarthy, some voting for steve scalise, upset about the fact that scalise was not able to bring his speakership to the house floor. then some who are still uncertain, who say they are in swing districts and can't afford to have a speaker jordan with their constituents who still view him as the original house freedom caucus fire brand. but this supplemental aid package is actually something that is sort of a pressure cooker in terms of getting this speaker battle out of the way. there is a realization that because of the urgency of the matter and trying to get the number that we've heard, somewhere between $2 billion and $10 billion in aid to all these oh places, including priorities house republicans have made clear they want to dedicate more funding to, like border security, that they need to get the speakership bat
does jim jordan have the votes? >> yeah, well, that remains to be seen. we have similar reporting to jake sherman, which last night we had around ten or more gop lawmakers who were still hard nosed, some still voting for former speaker kevin mccarthy, some voting for steve scalise, upset about the fact that scalise was not able to bring his speakership to the house floor. then some who are still uncertain, who say they are in swing districts and can't afford to have a speaker jordan with...
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republicans go from kevin mccarthy to jim jordan. i mean, there is no quality control apparently going on in the gop. now you're looking at that list, byron donalds? i mean, it's not getting any better for them. they have to go behind the scenes and they have to figure out how to get behind to create a new speaker designate. what are the chances of that happening? >> the chances are not good that it will happen quickly, katie we've seen this despite -- this function on display for 17 days. it's easy to get caught up in the political horse training and race of who's going to be the next speaker. i think it's important that america take a timeout and understand how dysfunctional, yes, but how dangerous this moment is for the country. katie, this is a problem that is wholesale owned by the republican party. the maga republican extremes has created the situation that has put our country in extraordinarily vulnerable situations. or congress literally cannot function. there is no speaker of the house. and for all of their acting and tempor
republicans go from kevin mccarthy to jim jordan. i mean, there is no quality control apparently going on in the gop. now you're looking at that list, byron donalds? i mean, it's not getting any better for them. they have to go behind the scenes and they have to figure out how to get behind to create a new speaker designate. what are the chances of that happening? >> the chances are not good that it will happen quickly, katie we've seen this despite -- this function on display for 17...
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>> reporter: well, what happened was this morning after jim jordan lost the third ballot on the floor of the house of representatives, he called all the republicans into a closed door meeting here in the bowels of the capital, and asked for a secret ballot, up and down vote, do you want me to be your candidate as speaker of the house, and through the private ballot, the republicans in the conference expressed their feelings, 112 republicans said, no, we don't want you to continue on as our speaker nominee, while 86 said, yes, we want to stick with you. as a result, jim jordan backed out, said he would no longer put his name in as a speaker designee, and they're basically back to square one. the plan now is that all of these members have the opportunity, any one member of the conference has the opportunity to submit their name as a potential candidate as speaker sunday night. plan to hold a candidate forum in washington monday night at 6:30 with the possibility of taking yet another nominee to the house floor as soon as tuesday morning. but we have to keep in mind when we talk about th
>> reporter: well, what happened was this morning after jim jordan lost the third ballot on the floor of the house of representatives, he called all the republicans into a closed door meeting here in the bowels of the capital, and asked for a secret ballot, up and down vote, do you want me to be your candidate as speaker of the house, and through the private ballot, the republicans in the conference expressed their feelings, 112 republicans said, no, we don't want you to continue on as...
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. >> jim jordan is out for a third time. the ohio congressman failed to get enough votes friday to get the speaker's gavel, leaving house republicans, scrambling to find a speaker who could secure enough votes. today, minnesota congressman, tom emmer, and launched his bid. he has kevin mccarthy's endorsement. for president trump and his allies are already trying to derail his bid, because he did not help trump's efforts in 2020. candidates have until noon tomorrow to throw their hats in the ring before republicans plan to vote again starting on tuesday. hanging over this continued chaos, and a member of funding deadline, aid to israel and ukraine is on hold, nbc's julie tsirkin is on capitol hill when we're. >> moments after, minutes after jim jordan faces a stunning defeat behind closed doors and that secret ballot, where nearly half of the conference voted against him causing jordan to drop out, i was outside of that room and multiple people told me that they were already planning to get in the running for speaker. now we
. >> jim jordan is out for a third time. the ohio congressman failed to get enough votes friday to get the speaker's gavel, leaving house republicans, scrambling to find a speaker who could secure enough votes. today, minnesota congressman, tom emmer, and launched his bid. he has kevin mccarthy's endorsement. for president trump and his allies are already trying to derail his bid, because he did not help trump's efforts in 2020. candidates have until noon tomorrow to throw their hats in...
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and i'm not being critical of jim jordan. he's well within his rights to take the positions he wants to take and be a hard liner, a lot of people like that about him. but if you're looking for hope at the end of the day that you're going to get somebody who's willing to compromise, jim jordan and steve scalise are not your guys. i want to add one more thing, katy, i don't think this is clear at the white house, among some democrats. ukraine aid is a thing of the past right now. these people campaigning for speaker are campaigning that ukraine aid is a bad thing, and i just think the administration is completely lost on that point, and i think we're beyond the point after democrats and republicans voted mccarthy out, i think we're beyond the point that ukraine aid is a possibility, at least in the near future. >> we're going to ask senator bennett about that in a moment. he's going to join us. obviously that's a big topic for him. before we go, jake, i have a present for you, and i'm going to play it right now. >> after only n
and i'm not being critical of jim jordan. he's well within his rights to take the positions he wants to take and be a hard liner, a lot of people like that about him. but if you're looking for hope at the end of the day that you're going to get somebody who's willing to compromise, jim jordan and steve scalise are not your guys. i want to add one more thing, katy, i don't think this is clear at the white house, among some democrats. ukraine aid is a thing of the past right now. these people...