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i was with kari lake in green valley, which is about 40 miles from the border. and she was speaking to match lab and ritchie mercedes schlapp match luck from cpac and they both work for the trump campaign, are trying to get her elected i didn't think too much of this at the time, but it made me think of it today when i heard kari lake say during her governor's race that they had a great law on the books. >> and >> she was asked a question about inflation and it wasn't that she couldn't answer. it was like she did not want to have to talk about it. and she kept nudging match lab to take the question for her. eventually, he seemed to get the point and he answered the question. i just start today. it seemed like a remarkable shallowness to her understanding of policy and she's been able to get away so far being this sort of maga celebrity being a very shallow campaigner and it's all about objects and it's all about how much she is like donald trump. i don't know if that's going to work now, there was an interesting moment where steve bannon was watching her give a
i was with kari lake in green valley, which is about 40 miles from the border. and she was speaking to match lab and ritchie mercedes schlapp match luck from cpac and they both work for the trump campaign, are trying to get her elected i didn't think too much of this at the time, but it made me think of it today when i heard kari lake say during her governor's race that they had a great law on the books. >> and >> she was asked a question about inflation and it wasn't that she...
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you've seen kari lake, the senate candidate there. we showed earlier in the show she was out there, right after the dobbs decision was made saying that calling this a great law, now she says she doesn't agree with it. what is your view of what happened in arizona and how it's going to affect the presidential election, the control of the senate, everything across the board, you know, look, i think that the arizona decision was simply a logical extension of what we've seen from the dobbs decision own over alabama decision on ivf was a logical and legal decision. that was a logical choice and interpretation based on the law as it stands and no one anticipated this on the republican side of the the legislatures in arizona the legislature's in alabama did not anticipate these kind of far, far extreme rulings and all of a sudden there nobody knows what to do republicans like kari lake and others never anticipated this. they never saw this coming. they didn't think through the ramifications of what they're doing there are pandering to a base
you've seen kari lake, the senate candidate there. we showed earlier in the show she was out there, right after the dobbs decision was made saying that calling this a great law, now she says she doesn't agree with it. what is your view of what happened in arizona and how it's going to affect the presidential election, the control of the senate, everything across the board, you know, look, i think that the arizona decision was simply a logical extension of what we've seen from the dobbs decision...
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kari lake. this is not mtg or lauren boebert. kari lake knows what she's doing. tom cotton, harvard grad knows what he's doing and the consequences are very clear. this is not just funding games when mitt romney goes on the record and says, there will members in the house who wanted to vote, gop members who wanted to vote to impeach donald trump. but they were scared for their families they were worried about the safety of their wife and kids. a lot of these republican men that is a deliberate tactic by trump, the mafia boss and the little mafia boss is below him to enforce order both within the party and now within the country, one in three americans tells pulses one in three republicans or excuse me, has said that they believed that patriots need to resort to violence to save this country one in three republicans, that's a scary statistics and that's been an there has been increasingly this idea among trump supporters that violence is in fact inevitable. that is perhaps the answer to the discord in the country january 6 was the opening salvo in for some of them
kari lake. this is not mtg or lauren boebert. kari lake knows what she's doing. tom cotton, harvard grad knows what he's doing and the consequences are very clear. this is not just funding games when mitt romney goes on the record and says, there will members in the house who wanted to vote, gop members who wanted to vote to impeach donald trump. but they were scared for their families they were worried about the safety of their wife and kids. a lot of these republican men that is a deliberate...
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and republicans have really struggled in new, you're seeing this now where people like kari lake are turning back on what she has said before a year ago or two two years ago on this very ruling that arizona is now putting into effect potentially. so it's a real problem for republicans and they realize that and you're seeing that now with trump and kari lake and people like that who are realizing they're not going to do well in november if they continue to have these ridiculously strict sans is on abortion >> and kari lake on the ballot in arizona in november as well, the car and you're not in a business of giving advice to republicans, but what can republicans do to counter this in try to make what even donald trump admits is a political loser of an issue for republicans into potentially a winner or less of a loser >> it's not much you can do right now. i mean, i think that this cake has been baked. donald trump when he put three conservative justices on the supreme court, when he's running around taking a great deal of pride in overturning roe. and now you have this iterative ration
and republicans have really struggled in new, you're seeing this now where people like kari lake are turning back on what she has said before a year ago or two two years ago on this very ruling that arizona is now putting into effect potentially. so it's a real problem for republicans and they realize that and you're seeing that now with trump and kari lake and people like that who are realizing they're not going to do well in november if they continue to have these ridiculously strict sans is...
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and people learn about kari lake all the lives that she has done. she's continuing to lie in the fact that she will be in support of an abortion ban >> yeah. i mean, she's calling on also the governor and the state legislature to do something. i should note that they are the republicans in arizona stood in the way of that today when democrats did try to repeal this band, but i want to ask you about your own party because president biden also weighed in on this today and there was a brief exchange that he had with the report but her about it this way said what are you saying that people in arizona right now we're witnessing a walk going place that dates back to elect me. i'm in a 20 20th century, 21st century, not back then. you weren't even to stay as you know, president biden has not always been comfortable with abortion. he doesn't use the word often. he didn't actually say it in his state of the union address. i wonder what you want to see from the white house and how you want to see the president himself speak out on this >> well, i think the pr
and people learn about kari lake all the lives that she has done. she's continuing to lie in the fact that she will be in support of an abortion ban >> yeah. i mean, she's calling on also the governor and the state legislature to do something. i should note that they are the republicans in arizona stood in the way of that today when democrats did try to repeal this band, but i want to ask you about your own party because president biden also weighed in on this today and there was a brief...
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he's one example in arizona, the other, of course, is the senate race, kari lake. let's listen to both kari lake and juan ciscomani or excuse me, i'm going to read these. kari lake said, this is a very personal issue that should be determined by each individual state and her people. i opposed today's ruling and i'm calling on katie hobbs and the state legislature to come up with an immediate common sense solution and then marianna, to your point, here's what ciscomani said. today's ruling is a disaster for women and providers. i'm a strong supporter of empowering women to make their own health care choices. and i oppose a national ban. >> yeah, listen, i mean, we should point out the kari lake and 2022 praise this law of 18 64 law and said you know, it could be a model for other states. she's in a very different position now. she wants carrie katie hobbs would do something differently she's prevailing on some of the same republicans who were in the state legislature, who also pushed for that 18, 64 law. and what's remarkable about this is the justices in arizona ha
he's one example in arizona, the other, of course, is the senate race, kari lake. let's listen to both kari lake and juan ciscomani or excuse me, i'm going to read these. kari lake said, this is a very personal issue that should be determined by each individual state and her people. i opposed today's ruling and i'm calling on katie hobbs and the state legislature to come up with an immediate common sense solution and then marianna, to your point, here's what ciscomani said. today's ruling is a...
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no prize and the kari lake's running away from it. maybe the surprise is how much she knew about it that she had a down accurately and she so stridently supported it before, you know, it bears repeating as you've said, this is a civil war era law that was on the books in arizona, 18, 64 arizona wasn't even a state. aaron when this law was on a book. so the supreme court in arizona has just ignored a 2022 ban on abortion that was 15 weeks in favor of a territorial law that wasn't even on the books and it was argued and this is the key and this is why kari lake took this position. >> she was running and for governor in 2022, and she was defending an argument from a far-right extremist group called the alliance, defending freedom. >> this is a >> deeply conservative, litigious group. they argue that they're doing the thing they accuse others of. this is lawfare using socially conservative ideology to fuel their arguments and this group, the alliance defending freedom, is responsible for the most onerous anti-lgbt laws. an anti-trans laws
no prize and the kari lake's running away from it. maybe the surprise is how much she knew about it that she had a down accurately and she so stridently supported it before, you know, it bears repeating as you've said, this is a civil war era law that was on the books in arizona, 18, 64 arizona wasn't even a state. aaron when this law was on a book. so the supreme court in arizona has just ignored a 2022 ban on abortion that was 15 weeks in favor of a territorial law that wasn't even on the...
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so let's just start at ground zero on this one in arizona with kari lake who is running for arizona's open senate seat. today, she released a statement which reads, and i quote, i oppose today's ruling and i am calling on katie hobbs and the state legislature to come up with an immediate common sense solution that arizona since can support >> okay. that would be fine if she just was breaking her silence on this issue. you might say, oh, who'd ever heard of a law from 18 64 will kari lake had and in fact, she had ardently supported this very law from 18 64 here she is talking about it two years ago we have a great law on the books right now. i'm incredibly thrilled that we are going to have a great law that's already on the books. i believe it's ars 133603. so it will prohibit abortion in arizona except to save the life of a mother. and i think we're going to be setting the paving the way and setting course for other states to follow so she didn't even just say, oh, i support this law in the book. she exactly said what the law did, write, that only in the life of the mother. that's the
so let's just start at ground zero on this one in arizona with kari lake who is running for arizona's open senate seat. today, she released a statement which reads, and i quote, i oppose today's ruling and i am calling on katie hobbs and the state legislature to come up with an immediate common sense solution that arizona since can support >> okay. that would be fine if she just was breaking her silence on this issue. you might say, oh, who'd ever heard of a law from 18 64 will kari lake...
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what's the turnaround for the reasons liam talked about knowing it's a problem. >> well, kari lake is inconsistent. writ large, and so i'm not going to hold her to a standard that she just will never we're be able to meet and that's to tell the truth. >> but >> i think she she's seen the backlash. we saw kansas. we aren't just talking about in democratic states. i think that people think about this as a political issue. this is a person issue. we're talking about the people in this country the women that live in kansas, which is traditionally a red-state, my home state of ohio, where they just had a ballot initiative in kentucky, another red skate, a democratic governor. but in 2023, they voted because he ran a campaign forced or centered on abortion. and then in the midterms, the red wade that never happened is because of this issue. so kari lake, she lost in 2022 also because she didn't believe the election results were real and a lot of other issues that she was problematic about but she knows she's on the ballot again, she's not extremely popular in her state, and that if she were
what's the turnaround for the reasons liam talked about knowing it's a problem. >> well, kari lake is inconsistent. writ large, and so i'm not going to hold her to a standard that she just will never we're be able to meet and that's to tell the truth. >> but >> i think she she's seen the backlash. we saw kansas. we aren't just talking about in democratic states. i think that people think about this as a political issue. this is a person issue. we're talking about the people in...
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and then he will betray you if he is elected kari lake is doing the same thing. many folks are doing the same thing and so when we see these states for these extreme restrictions on women's reproductive rights, voters are waking up and saying, you're out of touch with how i want you out of my doctor's office. and donald trump is out of two and he's just doing this right now for politics, not really the belief he doesn't believe the policy that he is saying right? >> sarah, how concerned should democrats be the trump potentially could successfully mitigate the political impact of abortion in the 2024 presidential elections i, mean, look, i have been saying all along that the abortion issue is tougher to hang on. donald >> trump because voters view him actually as a social moderate. nobody thinks that donald trump is like mike pence on sexual morality or an issues of pro-life or pro-choice. when you talk to voters about abortion and donald trump, they sort of suggests that they think he may have paid for an abortion in his lifetime. they certainly don't view him as
and then he will betray you if he is elected kari lake is doing the same thing. many folks are doing the same thing and so when we see these states for these extreme restrictions on women's reproductive rights, voters are waking up and saying, you're out of touch with how i want you out of my doctor's office. and donald trump is out of two and he's just doing this right now for politics, not really the belief he doesn't believe the policy that he is saying right? >> sarah, how concerned...
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i'm going to start with the kari lake reaction because i think it pretends a bigger issue here. she is a trump-backed candidate running for senate. she's handled the nir abortion ban in arizona. she's flipped flopped on it two or three times. here's what she said in 2022, about the 160 year-old abortion ban known as ars 13, and i say that because she mentions it in in her speech. and then listen to what she's how she's gone back and forth over the last i don't know, few months i'm incredibly thrilled that we are going to have a great law that's already on the books. >> i believe it's ars 13, is total ban on abortion that the arizona supreme court just ruled on is out of line with where the people of this state are. the arizona supreme court said this is the law of arizona, but unfortunately, the people running our state have said we're not going to enforce it. so it's really political nickel theater. >> all right. >> so alice to you, is this the best example of how republicans are struggling with this issue abortion as ste-bstate starts to crchown and tried to restrict abortion
i'm going to start with the kari lake reaction because i think it pretends a bigger issue here. she is a trump-backed candidate running for senate. she's handled the nir abortion ban in arizona. she's flipped flopped on it two or three times. here's what she said in 2022, about the 160 year-old abortion ban known as ars 13, and i say that because she mentions it in in her speech. and then listen to what she's how she's gone back and forth over the last i don't know, few months i'm incredibly...
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so it was donald trump who said that now they've made up with desantis, but it is kari lake who's having to say that she's made up with trump, whereas trump has not said anything about this. so this to me says, one thing is true and the other thing is not true. i am not convinced that kari lake is in donald trump's good graces there. >> but let's be honest, securely doesn't bring anything to donald trump. >> she brings nothing to the table. rhonda santos to a little those point. >> it's governor of a very popular state, a state where republican leaning, but also desantis can also help donald trump on the campaign trail. there, there are a lot of conservative republicans who aren't necessarily excited about voting for trump in november. >> and someone like ron desantis could be persuadable to some of those individuals kari lake is someone who's felled multiple times, running for office is a lot of republicans are sick of her. they're ready for her to move on. that's not the case with desantis. >> i don't care what you guys say. she brings the best lighting in the business. >> that's true.
so it was donald trump who said that now they've made up with desantis, but it is kari lake who's having to say that she's made up with trump, whereas trump has not said anything about this. so this to me says, one thing is true and the other thing is not true. i am not convinced that kari lake is in donald trump's good graces there. >> but let's be honest, securely doesn't bring anything to donald trump. >> she brings nothing to the table. rhonda santos to a little those point....
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kari lake, obviously she didn't. it's just kind of rich. i think that there are now turning to the democratic governor to fix this. >> but also when i'm talking about kari lake, i want to play what she said in 2022 about the exact same civil war era abortion ban after roe v. wade was overturned >> incredibly thrilled that we are going to have a great law that's already on the books. i believe it's ars 133603. so it will prohibit abortion in arizona except to save the life of a mother >> she's now saying reverse that. so you're saying she doesn't like this thing has gone too far >> well and you know that a lot has got to be extreme if kari lake is saying it's too extreme, this is a complete flip-flop and reversal, but to caitlin zero point, i think trump did the best that he could with the politics of this. i do think the only tenable place for him to be would be deferred to states. but i actually have a working theory that it definitely will hurt republicans and the election i think donald trump may be able to message his, his way in a way
kari lake, obviously she didn't. it's just kind of rich. i think that there are now turning to the democratic governor to fix this. >> but also when i'm talking about kari lake, i want to play what she said in 2022 about the exact same civil war era abortion ban after roe v. wade was overturned >> incredibly thrilled that we are going to have a great law that's already on the books. i believe it's ars 133603. so it will prohibit abortion in arizona except to save the life of a...
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i think kari lake is more fragile as a candidate today, then she was yesterday. i think donald trump's chances in arizona have been impacted negatively. i don't think you can unring that bell either. so this this is a big, big development, wealth a very historic, significant development indeed to all of you. thank you very much. an important discussion just ahead. a judge in michigan delivers historic prison sentences to the parents of school shooter, ethan crumbley, plus, there's more breaking news. we're watching president biden is now speaking out on the war in gaza and sharing some of his toughest criticism, yet the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu erin burnett, outfront tonight at seven odd cnn when bbs was to turbotax i broke for generations of family tradition. >> i want to make perfume >> so i'm eat barbers, new psyche count by guaranteeing her maximum refund into interval tax from friends coming over to mom's coming over >> so many ways to save life, ready while it happy. but 3605 by whole foods market there's not the bell an assault way series
i think kari lake is more fragile as a candidate today, then she was yesterday. i think donald trump's chances in arizona have been impacted negatively. i don't think you can unring that bell either. so this this is a big, big development, wealth a very historic, significant development indeed to all of you. thank you very much. an important discussion just ahead. a judge in michigan delivers historic prison sentences to the parents of school shooter, ethan crumbley, plus, there's more breaking...
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and i think kari lake, in this instance clearly sees the numbers and arizona, 62% of people want to see some type of abortion. and she's looking at how am i going to appeal to those voters? and she's making taking a more moderate position. it's up to the voters. did they believe her now or do they believe her previous position on this? and that is something that she is going to have to continue to make the case where she stands now as she heads into november, because as we have vice president harris will be going their friday, democrats will make this a key issue and i don't blame them. it isn't a galvanizing issue for democrats creates a up to republicans to make sure that they can meet the moment on this particular issue on see, this is going to be motivating in arizona. we're going to see that and there's going to be a ballot initiative we expect that will give a lot of people a reason, a lot of people who align with joe biden to come out to the polls. and that could favor him but i wonder what you think because i've heard some democrats from states were maybe it isn't is pressing an
and i think kari lake, in this instance clearly sees the numbers and arizona, 62% of people want to see some type of abortion. and she's looking at how am i going to appeal to those voters? and she's making taking a more moderate position. it's up to the voters. did they believe her now or do they believe her previous position on this? and that is something that she is going to have to continue to make the case where she stands now as she heads into november, because as we have vice president...
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i think kari lake is more fragile as a candidate today than she was yesterday. i think donald trump's chances in arizona have been impacted negatively. i don't think you can unring that bell either. so this is a big, big development, wealth a very historic, significant development indeed to all of you. thank you very much. an important discussion just ahead. a judge in michigan delivers historic prison sentences to the parents of school shooter, ethan crumbley, plus there's more brachii news. we're watching president biden is now speaking out on the war in gaza and sharing some of his toughest criticism, yet, the israeli prime minister you're benjamin netanyahu >> on t, you can put that right in the dishwasher >> blatchley. >> but cascade platinum plus i have my dish game. i just scraped and i'm done in that dishwashing, that dishwasher >> only platinum plus is packed with more dawn to remove up to 100% of greece and food residue get the highest standard of claim even in your machine >> clean enough for you >> yeah scrape, load, done, cascade, platinum plus dare
i think kari lake is more fragile as a candidate today than she was yesterday. i think donald trump's chances in arizona have been impacted negatively. i don't think you can unring that bell either. so this is a big, big development, wealth a very historic, significant development indeed to all of you. thank you very much. an important discussion just ahead. a judge in michigan delivers historic prison sentences to the parents of school shooter, ethan crumbley, plus there's more brachii news....
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i think kari lake is is looking at that and taking his lead also trying to have it both ways. but there's so much audio, there's so much written. the ads are already being written from the biden campaign about what donald trump has said and the fact that he has said very recently that he is so proud to have been the one to appoint the judges that overturned roe v. wade, i think is going to give democrats all of the ammunition that we need in order to underscore that this person, no matter what he says, will continue to be a danger to the rights and liberties of women. >> so somewhere that chief justice of the united states, john roberts is pulling his hair because he tried hi to point the court in a direction of a 15 week ban that i believe he thought was going to be some sort of like middle-ground of sorts. i know that people on both sides of the issue would take issue with that, but he tried to point the court in that direction. they did not follow that direction. now, republicans are having to defend outright bands. >> that's that's right. and look on a day where the mornin
i think kari lake is is looking at that and taking his lead also trying to have it both ways. but there's so much audio, there's so much written. the ads are already being written from the biden campaign about what donald trump has said and the fact that he has said very recently that he is so proud to have been the one to appoint the judges that overturned roe v. wade, i think is going to give democrats all of the ammunition that we need in order to underscore that this person, no matter what...
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what does it say to you that kari lake has pushed back against this ban? >> there has been a seismic shift in the political landscape here in arizona. we are seeing not just kari lake, but lots of other republicans starting to flip flop and back pedal. >> they >> do not want voters to know that just a couple of years ago, they were celebrating the fall of roe. some of the republicans in the legislature even voted onto 2022, 15 week abortion ban, which was at the heart of this supreme court case. and the legislative intent in that ban actually said that they agreed that the 18 64 ban should not be repealed, should roe fall. so i think that voters are really seeing through the backpedaling that's happening and they're not going to fall forward in november >> and in the meantime, arizonans are planning to vote on a ballot measure in november that would restore access to abortion at the point of viability, which is approximately 24 weeks. in the meantime, we're also hearing reports that the arizona house speaker perhaps may put forward. hizon, his party's own
what does it say to you that kari lake has pushed back against this ban? >> there has been a seismic shift in the political landscape here in arizona. we are seeing not just kari lake, but lots of other republicans starting to flip flop and back pedal. >> they >> do not want voters to know that just a couple of years ago, they were celebrating the fall of roe. some of the republicans in the legislature even voted onto 2022, 15 week abortion ban, which was at the heart of this...
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they can't do that we see the senate candidate kari lake, republican big mega woman has now completely gone from almost 100% pro-life to >> 100% pro-choice? yeah. just in i'm not surprised with that, jake, yesterday evening, i did a focus group with some republican voters in south georgia, rural georgia, and some from the suburbs of savannah. all evangelicals, most of them were pro-choice or most of them were not pro-choice. there's only one pro-choice individual >> and when i >> asked him, what did you think about president trump's remarks, this should be returned to the states. they all agreed with the caveat. they all agreed, but they said that voters should actually have the right to vote on the issue. as i said, so if the president were to moderate somewhat to appeal to a broader electorate would you be okay with that, even though you don't agree they said yes, one guy, not a south georgia town by about 5,000 people. he said sure. michael, the folks in atlanta view this differently than those versus south georgia. sure. he said, i don't want atlanta dictate in our values and we sh
they can't do that we see the senate candidate kari lake, republican big mega woman has now completely gone from almost 100% pro-life to >> 100% pro-choice? yeah. just in i'm not surprised with that, jake, yesterday evening, i did a focus group with some republican voters in south georgia, rural georgia, and some from the suburbs of savannah. all evangelicals, most of them were pro-choice or most of them were not pro-choice. there's only one pro-choice individual >> and when i...
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. >> their >> now refurbishing their positions look no further than kari lake. she's the republican nominee for the senate in arizona lake. tonight says, i oppose today's ruling lake back in to that 2022 says the law was great >> i'm incredibly thrilled that we are going to have a great law that's already on the books. i believe it's ars 133603. so it will prohibit abortion in arizona except to save the life of a mother >> republicans realized that there are very real ramifications for what arizona's court just did because they have seen this movie before in other places. >> on the map. when abortion was on the ballot, republicans lose even in places where they otherwise might win places like ohio, kentucky, virginia places where they ended up losing in 2023. and it's going to be on the ballot again this november in 2024, already voters will decide directly on abortion in florida in maryland, in new york, and an eight other states, activists want to put it on the ballot, including right there in arizona the point here after five decades of pining for a decision
. >> their >> now refurbishing their positions look no further than kari lake. she's the republican nominee for the senate in arizona lake. tonight says, i oppose today's ruling lake back in to that 2022 says the law was great >> i'm incredibly thrilled that we are going to have a great law that's already on the books. i believe it's ars 133603. so it will prohibit abortion in arizona except to save the life of a mother >> republicans realized that there are very real...
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lake at the top of the ticket. and then we have stream this leg, shawna booleq and like matt grass here in the arizona legislature, those kind of things can't get done. and i am exhausted hearing republicans asked democrats to clean up their mess. donald trump can say that no, this is too far, but this is your problem. this is a problem that you create it and we're not seeing any accountability. and what we're experiencing an arizona is a problem that donald trump and legislative republicans created. and now they are expecting other people to clean up their mess without taking any accountability. and we just can't stand for it >> you mentioned on trump, you also mentioned a senate candidate, kari lake, who has flip-flopped now on this issue it will be interesting to see how this all plays out there. but for now, arizona state senator of a birch. thank you so much for taking the time to come on this morning and talk about this important issue. >> thanks so much for having me. >> sure. john. >> all right. breaking ne
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kari lake was a staunch pro-life candidate in the last election that she lost for governor. and now she's practically pro-choice >> it >> is an amazing flip-flop that we have seen from her in such a short period of time because one thing she does understand she doesn't understand where the arizona electorate is, and they are not supportive of an 18, 64 law that practically bands abortion in the state so she is at least smart enough to flip-flop what we're seeing in arizona is obviously a battle that will see across the country in 2020 let me four, republican say they want to take the abortion issue off the table. so how do they do this when polls show so many people care deeply about this issue, including their base. >> yes, the problem is it's been laid on the table and look, it has been republican ideology for a couple of generations, right to get rid of roe v. wade and bring it back to the states. and that is exactly where it is. and now that that has occurred it's a problem for in a even in a still a republican state, still conservative state, but also a libertarian stat
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again kind of surprising coming from the very conservative kari lake, the republican senate candidate. but luck i think one person we haven't heard from yet is donald trump. and this is going to be very difficult for him. him and his team to navigate honestly, the time is pretty remarkable after his statement yesterday, really clarifying that his position is to seed the abortion issue, to the states. and of course, it comes as a lot of people on the road right? we're very angry with him, not coming out and specifying a national abortion ban after certain number of weeks, many people pressuring him over the past couple of months on trying to embrace a 15 week ban, but it's also of course angering the left and democrats. and even though this is, i know from my conversations with trump's team, the politically safe place for him to land. they also recognize that this allows a lot of democrats to continue blaming him for these types of laws, even though of course he saying this is up to the state's, we should point out. >> the vice president, kamala harris, who as you noted, kevin, his hea
again kind of surprising coming from the very conservative kari lake, the republican senate candidate. but luck i think one person we haven't heard from yet is donald trump. and this is going to be very difficult for him. him and his team to navigate honestly, the time is pretty remarkable after his statement yesterday, really clarifying that his position is to seed the abortion issue, to the states. and of course, it comes as a lot of people on the road right? we're very angry with him, not...
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here's an example of then gubernatorial candidate kari lake back in 2022 i'm incredibly thrilled that we are going to have a great law that's already on the books. i believe it's ars 13, so it will prohibit abortion in arizona except to save the life of a mother so now she's running for senate and of course, and she wants to appeal this law and democrats are already pointing out on social media sort of her past comments. ruben gallego, the democrat who's running against her for senate, is among those. but specifically dave, he says, no amount of backpedaling will make us for get will this come off as backpedaling to voters? >> or i think it already has and the politics of this within the state are not going her way because if you're republican, if your blood probably believes in this and wanted to get rid of row one of the state to ban abortion, one you knew this is on the books for a long time. i interviewed the current attorney general, which was running three years ago. this might happen and why would you vote for a bill that waters this down? they already tried this, this week. th
here's an example of then gubernatorial candidate kari lake back in 2022 i'm incredibly thrilled that we are going to have a great law that's already on the books. i believe it's ars 13, so it will prohibit abortion in arizona except to save the life of a mother so now she's running for senate and of course, and she wants to appeal this law and democrats are already pointing out on social media sort of her past comments. ruben gallego, the democrat who's running against her for senate, is among...
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i mean, just watch what kari lake is doing. she is someone who had this comment recorded where she was saying that this law this abortion ban, was a great law that was on the book. and she seemed to say it with all the genuineness in the world. and now she has had to clearly flip-flop her position on that. she's putting out 5.5 minute long videos where she saying that that video that should not be the law of the land in arizona. trump himself is turning to the democratic governor in arizona, saying that they should fix this immediately. of course, that's the person that he wanted to lose to kari lake when he wanted her to be the governor of arizona. so it puts them at an incredibly difficult position. i don't think any republican will not concede that fact, at least not privately, wolf and so it just makes it difficult because trump saying, leave it up to the states, but then he doesn't like how it it's left up when it is left up to the states and arizona at least. and so i think it does make it a very complicated message and i
i mean, just watch what kari lake is doing. she is someone who had this comment recorded where she was saying that this law this abortion ban, was a great law that was on the book. and she seemed to say it with all the genuineness in the world. and now she has had to clearly flip-flop her position on that. she's putting out 5.5 minute long videos where she saying that that video that should not be the law of the land in arizona. trump himself is turning to the democratic governor in arizona,...
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. >> kari lake, who is running for senate coming mr. mind. so how are they trying to walk that line well, i mean, several of them told me when i was there last week that this was going to be the most difficult decision of their careers. >> and i think you really see what was interesting last week is that you didn't even get to a vote on the repeal. and i think that that is very much intentional at several lawmakers told me that that first vote in order to get to the boat, the procedural vote was actually going to be much more difficult because it was easier for these moderate republicans to vote against getting to the vote than it would be to vote no on the actual repeal that's just it's harder to make a political ad saying. so and so didn't vote to get to the vote than it would be to say so. and so voted to keep this ban in place so i think it's anybody's guess what's going to happen this week. but i think they will certainly try to bring it up again. >> what are you hearing from women in arizona across the political spectrum i think it's yo
. >> kari lake, who is running for senate coming mr. mind. so how are they trying to walk that line well, i mean, several of them told me when i was there last week that this was going to be the most difficult decision of their careers. >> and i think you really see what was interesting last week is that you didn't even get to a vote on the repeal. and i think that that is very much intentional at several lawmakers told me that that first vote in order to get to the boat, the...
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trump-backed senate candidate kari lake previously said this about the 800s, 64 law less than two years ago. listen >> incredibly thrilled that we are going to have a great law that's already on the books. i believe it's ars 133603. so it will prohibit abortion in arizona, except to save the life of a mother now league says, quote, i oppose the ruling, and i'm calling on katie hobbs and the state legislature to come up with an immediate common sense solution >> that arizonans can support republican congressman david schweikert celebrated the reversal of roe versus wade. he co-sponsored a bill that would ban abortion nationwide at the moment of conception. but now look at this quote. i do not support the ruling from the arizona supreme court. this issue should be decided by arizonans, not legislated from the bench and republican congressmen, juan ciscomani, he has said that he's proudly pro life and that abortion policies should be set by the states but now he's calling this abortion ban. archaic, adding that quote, we must do better for women. and i call on our state policymakers to imm
trump-backed senate candidate kari lake previously said this about the 800s, 64 law less than two years ago. listen >> incredibly thrilled that we are going to have a great law that's already on the books. i believe it's ars 133603. so it will prohibit abortion in arizona, except to save the life of a mother now league says, quote, i oppose the ruling, and i'm calling on katie hobbs and the state legislature to come up with an immediate common sense solution >> that arizonans can...
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and kari lake won't be a united states senator. but watching them go back and forth and just watching the debate around this has been fascinating to see the bar is really low. i mean, you can excel and be on donald trump's shortlist. all you have to do is not murder puppies honestly, we talked about a lot of wild things, especially the three of us. >> i this was not on my bingo card for things that we would be discussing when it came to wear this i said, okay, i'm paying was going guess what guess what voice we still got six months. >> yes. david, kate and i was going to say also it's day three, this story, right? i mean, that's the problem. it's not like this. this story has legs, has been going and going and going. and so if you're governor noem, it's just it is a really, really bad week for you. >> it is a strange moment for all of us. >> it is good to see you. >> thank you, gentlemen thank you. john she the eyebrow raised the irony this morning, a cast has been reunited with her family after being found 650 miles away from home
and kari lake won't be a united states senator. but watching them go back and forth and just watching the debate around this has been fascinating to see the bar is really low. i mean, you can excel and be on donald trump's shortlist. all you have to do is not murder puppies honestly, we talked about a lot of wild things, especially the three of us. >> i this was not on my bingo card for things that we would be discussing when it came to wear this i said, okay, i'm paying was going guess...
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of course, worth noting, the governor is a democrat here but the reaction in the about-face from kari lake, the senate candidate, from knowing exactly the name of this law in the wake of the dobbs decision and saying it would be a great idea to put that in place. two, where she is now quite literally lobbying legislators seems to tell you everything you need to know about how people feel about the politics of this. >> yeah, the pivot was quite >> incredible, especially because it was such an archaic law is so, so, so deep into the logs of arizona law and she knew it directly when she was asked about in 2022. >> and >> now she's going around saying, you know, we we want but democrats in the house and the governor's mansion and the legislature to fix is very fascinating thing about that too, is that when this campaign cycle began, republicans behind the scenes were telling their candidates do not say, you're pro-life, you know, you should start talking about exceptions and how you support them. so the message has really, really changed after the 2022 midterms, you mentioned immigration
of course, worth noting, the governor is a democrat here but the reaction in the about-face from kari lake, the senate candidate, from knowing exactly the name of this law in the wake of the dobbs decision and saying it would be a great idea to put that in place. two, where she is now quite literally lobbying legislators seems to tell you everything you need to know about how people feel about the politics of this. >> yeah, the pivot was quite >> incredible, especially because it...
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lake they have been trying to distance themselves from the supreme court decision. they're also donald trump, who said abortion should be left up to the states and right now left up to arizona. and this is what arizona i was doing with it. cnn's daniel strauss is with me now on the latest standoff here in arizona, daniel yeah. >> and listen, i can't underscore how important this is to advocates of repealing this law. this shows among not just democrats, but republicans as well that there is a rift between the those who really supported within the state and more national republicans who are worried about the consequences of this law and it being seen as indicative of the party as a whole, you've seen it. you can see yourself in donald trump for instance, said, looking to distance himself from the law or kari lake as well, trying to either digress and change the subject or argue that the law should be repealed. it's too severe. so at this point in time, it's not really clear despite calls from some of the most influential republicans in the party for arizona, what ari
lake they have been trying to distance themselves from the supreme court decision. they're also donald trump, who said abortion should be left up to the states and right now left up to arizona. and this is what arizona i was doing with it. cnn's daniel strauss is with me now on the latest standoff here in arizona, daniel yeah. >> and listen, i can't underscore how important this is to advocates of repealing this law. this shows among not just democrats, but republicans as well that there...
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lake to take a more moderate approach ahead of the november election. >> just last week, you'll recall arizona state supreme in court ruled in favor of upholding the 800s 64 law, which prohibits abortions except to save the life of a woman abortion rights and phonons gathered outside the state house us today. a meer of the arizona chapter of right to life said, quote, this is not a political issue. it's a moral issue. abortion rights advocates were also on hand. they've been gathering ballot measure thawould enrine aboioacce in th state's constitutionp until fetal viability, which dtors estimate is around 22 to 24 weeks. >> the news contind it's right here on cnn i'd find next the breaking news face-f d mike johon on a colln greene course? i just johnson goes to war br new dails rht now wi bethla about at prosecutors want ask umife tas e stand in hisush money trial should his lawyers put hion the stanand biggerhan gold. thats one jor tech investors prediction about bitcoin is he righ all right. eveng. gout, findnd good >> i'm erin burnett outfront tonight. a breaking point. mik johnson
lake to take a more moderate approach ahead of the november election. >> just last week, you'll recall arizona state supreme in court ruled in favor of upholding the 800s 64 law, which prohibits abortions except to save the life of a woman abortion rights and phonons gathered outside the state house us today. a meer of the arizona chapter of right to life said, quote, this is not a political issue. it's a moral issue. abortion rights advocates were also on hand. they've been gathering...
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it'll of inuits he has with steve bannon and kari lake praying together and kari lake did use to seem to be a true believer on this. now, she's making calls saying we've got to overturn this isn't something maga really cares about, or are they just trying to voided. >> what's interesting with trump, this is like the one issue that he doesn't automatically run to the right, run to the most extreme position on it's like the one issue where he is very explicit about just seeing the political implications of it and he's, he comes out and says like what we need to win elections and the the advisers who were lobbying him to pick a number of weeks thinking about kellyanne conway and lindsey graham specifically, the argument they were making to him as like, if you don't if you don't endorse 15 weeks are 16 weeks federally, you are going to get stuck and blamed with every state ban that's more severe with that. then he rejects that advice, says leave it to the states the next day. this arizona decision >> yeah. i mean, sarah, how do you see that? and we've talked a little bit about this on the
it'll of inuits he has with steve bannon and kari lake praying together and kari lake did use to seem to be a true believer on this. now, she's making calls saying we've got to overturn this isn't something maga really cares about, or are they just trying to voided. >> what's interesting with trump, this is like the one issue that he doesn't automatically run to the right, run to the most extreme position on it's like the one issue where he is very explicit about just seeing the political...
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arizona senate candidate in an election denier, kari lake, who earlier praise the law, said today, it is quote, out of line with where the people of this state are so i'm really just conservatives in the party. do support it most obviously, the alliance defending freedom, a christian legal advocacy group that helped bring the arizona case. and whose stated goal is quote keeping the doors open for the gospel they're an influential voice inside what some call a growing christian national movement inside the republican party are donie and donie o'sullivan has that story your t-shirt says, jesus christ 24. >> yes. >> i see on the ballot, not on the ballot, but trump so doggone close >> do you believe america is a christian country? >> we were founded on christianity circuit. >> i still believe it's a christian country. >> are you a christian? >> yes i man, i don't like what's going on with what you're trying to do >> what are they trying to do? >> well just trying to sign. >> are christians no >> america's founding fathers intentionally separated church and state but trump and some of his
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their ruben gallego versus kari lake and he's looking for an edge and this may just be the edge that he really needed against her paula. thank you so much, really appreciate it >> so for the second time in 24 hours, donald trump came up short in his effort to delay his hush money criminal trial in new york this afternoon, a judge ruling that there's no reason to push back monday start date while trump's appeal of the gag order in that case plays out. >> so that means in six days, jury selection is set to begin a manhattan that will take off the first criminal trial of a former president in us history. let's talk about this now. a cnn senior law enforcement analyst and former fbi deputy director andrew mccabe andy, do you think first the gag order? for is going to stand here and how could the eventual appellate ruling factor in as the trial gets underway >> rionda, if i had to guess and these things are hard, as you know, hard to predict, i guess that the gag order probably will stand up to appellate scrutiny. in yet the gag order is particularly narrowly tailored >> i think the goals
their ruben gallego versus kari lake and he's looking for an edge and this may just be the edge that he really needed against her paula. thank you so much, really appreciate it >> so for the second time in 24 hours, donald trump came up short in his effort to delay his hush money criminal trial in new york this afternoon, a judge ruling that there's no reason to push back monday start date while trump's appeal of the gag order in that case plays out. >> so that means in six days,...
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let's take kari lake she is running for senate in arizona so now the arizona supreme court, this week ruled that an 18 64 law banning nearly all abortions in the state must be upheld. but back when link ran a failed bid for governor in 2020, to listen to what she said about the law i'm incredibly thrilled that we are going to have a great law that's already on the books. i believe it's ars 13, so it will prohibit abortion in arizona except to save the life of a mother and i think we're going to be setting the paving the way and setting course for other states to follow >> so now, lake said she opposes that near-total ban on abortion. here's what her campaign told us, saying that kari is personally pro-life. her position on a federal vantage clear, she opposes it, just like president trump kari is opposed to the territorial law and is calling on the state legislature to fix the issue. her focus is on saving babies and helping women through protecting ivf baby bonuses, child tax credit, and paid family leave. so she now says she opposes that territorial band, even though she previously
let's take kari lake she is running for senate in arizona so now the arizona supreme court, this week ruled that an 18 64 law banning nearly all abortions in the state must be upheld. but back when link ran a failed bid for governor in 2020, to listen to what she said about the law i'm incredibly thrilled that we are going to have a great law that's already on the books. i believe it's ars 13, so it will prohibit abortion in arizona except to save the life of a mother and i think we're going to...
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and we don't have that here, especially when you look at the kari lake senate add that sounded exactly like a planned parenthood superpac ad for pro-choice candidate. it's these people seem to be acting as though they're pro-life with three exceptions for rape, incest, and declining poll numbers and that's not a compelling moral vision to persuade the hearts and minds of people. >> kate, i mean, former >> president trump falsely claim, say that every legal scholar wanted roe v. wade overturned >> how much >> is the vice-president >> going to camp out in arizona? i mean, is this how much is this going to be front and center for the biden campaign >> i expect it will be if they have their way, it'll be front and center every single day because it is such a does represent such a fundamental threat for women across the country and also as folks have been discussing here, we know now that it motivates voters. we know that it turns people out democrats certainly, but also independents and moderate republicans two, we've seen that in states across the country. we saw it in 2022. we thought wi
and we don't have that here, especially when you look at the kari lake senate add that sounded exactly like a planned parenthood superpac ad for pro-choice candidate. it's these people seem to be acting as though they're pro-life with three exceptions for rape, incest, and declining poll numbers and that's not a compelling moral vision to persuade the hearts and minds of people. >> kate, i mean, former >> president trump falsely claim, say that every legal scholar wanted roe v. wade...
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lake had to say in the immediate aftermath and dogs being overturned. this was back in june of 2020 and she was talking about the arizona law that has now been put back in play. watch what she said i'm incredibly thrilled that we are going to have a great law that's already on the books. i believe it's ars 133603. so it will prohibit abortion in arizona, except to save the life of a mother senator john. so she said, it's a great law and she's incredibly thrilled this contrast significantly with what she said when this happened yesterday, when she said, i oppose today's ruling and i'm calling on katie hobbs in the state legislature to come up with an immediate common sense solution that arizonans can support that seems to crystallize and you're asking seeing me if that makes sense? >> no. absolutely does not make sense except in the context is david was saying of folks that are now realizing that the dog has caught the car and they don't know what to do. they don't know what to say. they did not think through what they were saying. and in the moment beca
lake had to say in the immediate aftermath and dogs being overturned. this was back in june of 2020 and she was talking about the arizona law that has now been put back in play. watch what she said i'm incredibly thrilled that we are going to have a great law that's already on the books. i believe it's ars 133603. so it will prohibit abortion in arizona, except to save the life of a mother senator john. so she said, it's a great law and she's incredibly thrilled this contrast significantly with...
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for example, kari lake i don't know if you've seen this is lobbying arizona lawmakers to overturn that abortion ban in that state where she wants called a quote, great law here's how she is echoed. trump's abortion rhetoric in recent days, which trump of course has been all over the place on it. let's listen in to this total ban on abortion that the arizona supreme court just ruled on, is out of line. >> you must follow you the heart of this issue. i agree with president trump. this is such a personal and private issue, but i'm strongly in favor of exceptions for rape, incest, and life of the mother. >> i agree with president trump. we must have exceptions for rape, incest in the life of the mother. >> both sides wanted and in fact demanded be ended roe v. wade, they wanted it ended. >> both sides of the issue admitted was unconstitutional as your senator, i will oppose federal funding for abortion and federal banning abortion it's incredible, larry. i mean, it's almost as though she's not really running for the synergies aiming to be as vice president >> i'm sure she'd like to be, but
for example, kari lake i don't know if you've seen this is lobbying arizona lawmakers to overturn that abortion ban in that state where she wants called a quote, great law here's how she is echoed. trump's abortion rhetoric in recent days, which trump of course has been all over the place on it. let's listen in to this total ban on abortion that the arizona supreme court just ruled on, is out of line. >> you must follow you the heart of this issue. i agree with president trump. this is...
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they are defined calls from former president trump in arizona us senate candidate kari lake to take get more moderate approach ahead of the november election just last week, you'll recall arizona state supreme court ruled in favor of upholding the 800s, 64 law which prohibits abortions except to save the life of a woman abortion rights opponents gathered outside the state house today a member of the arizona chapter of right to life said, quote, this is not a political issue. it's a moral issue. abortion rights advocates were also on hand. they've been gathering signatures for ballot measure that would enshrine abortion access in the state's constitution up until fetal viability witch doctors estimate is around 22 to 24 weeks. that's it for us. the news continues. the source starts now
they are defined calls from former president trump in arizona us senate candidate kari lake to take get more moderate approach ahead of the november election just last week, you'll recall arizona state supreme court ruled in favor of upholding the 800s, 64 law which prohibits abortions except to save the life of a woman abortion rights opponents gathered outside the state house today a member of the arizona chapter of right to life said, quote, this is not a political issue. it's a moral issue....
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lake's case, challenging the use of electronic voting machines in arizona wake filed the case during her failed 2022 but notorious bid nasa is back in communication with voyager 1 for the first time in five months, the space craft, which is about 15 billion miles away, has been stuck in a data loops since november the mission team received the first coherent data this week another record shattered by a taylor swift, her latest album, the tortured poets department. now, the most streamed album on its first de, a stunning 300 million streams names on friday on spotify alone. it took just 12 hours are let's turn now to the crisis that's unfolding on college campuses across the country. as pro-palestinian protests escalated, schools like columbia, nyu, mit, the university of michigan, and yale stoking fears of anti-semitic violence and resulting in dozens of students arrests at columbia university. the turmoil has forced the school to hold hybrid classes for the rest of the semester out of concern for students safety. and that lawmakers a jerseyemocratic congssman josh got homer >> colum
lake's case, challenging the use of electronic voting machines in arizona wake filed the case during her failed 2022 but notorious bid nasa is back in communication with voyager 1 for the first time in five months, the space craft, which is about 15 billion miles away, has been stuck in a data loops since november the mission team received the first coherent data this week another record shattered by a taylor swift, her latest album, the tortured poets department. now, the most streamed album...
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. >> yeah, you're talking about kari lake. i need her condemnation of this was a far cry from her stance on it less than two years ago. i don't know if we have the sound on this, but let's listen to that. >> it's good point we have a great law on the books right now. it will prohibit abortion in arizona, except to save the life of a mother. and i think we're going to be setting the paving the way and setting course for other states to follow i mean, at least you're not going back and forth on the 2020 election, but i you know, this right, director. yeah. i mean, this is this is going to be tough. >> i mean, jim, we're not winning on on this issue kansas, wisconsin supreme court, ohio, and even the idea of 15 weeks, lindsey graham came on. so we should do 50 two weeks. my governance, state of virginia, youngkin ran on. well, let's do 15 weeks. not only did democrats keep their majority in that state house, they also won the state senate, who are not winning because women are clearly sand and even some men, even some republicans
. >> yeah, you're talking about kari lake. i need her condemnation of this was a far cry from her stance on it less than two years ago. i don't know if we have the sound on this, but let's listen to that. >> it's good point we have a great law on the books right now. it will prohibit abortion in arizona, except to save the life of a mother. and i think we're going to be setting the paving the way and setting course for other states to follow i mean, at least you're not going back...
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there's a hugely important senate race going on there where the republican kari lake has been all over the place on this issue. she endorsed the 18 60 something bill and then situ wasn't for it and so i think what you're going to see is democrats using the arizona law nationally because it is a very good marker for people. trump says he wants the states to decide, well, this is how the states are going to decide if he's president and that is vitally important not only to women, but also to a lot of men who think that this is just a terrible way of handling what was for 50 plus years of constitutional right at that, alice stewart quick to see both you. thank you both so much. sarah. all right. coming up, house speaker >> mike johnson, fighting to keep the job. he got barely leave six months ago. could a meeting with donald trump help him knocked down a republican revolt? >> and >> the anti-defamation league is giving some of the nation's most prestige he just universities and f, for failing. when it comes to fighting anti-semitism. plus the biden administration trying to close the so-ca
there's a hugely important senate race going on there where the republican kari lake has been all over the place on this issue. she endorsed the 18 60 something bill and then situ wasn't for it and so i think what you're going to see is democrats using the arizona law nationally because it is a very good marker for people. trump says he wants the states to decide, well, this is how the states are going to decide if he's president and that is vitally important not only to women, but also to a...
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kari lake posted a picture that is her own puppy. >> ron desantis, even posted a picture with a dog. >> and then the more expected sort of trolls are from her fellow governors on the democratic side, governor tim walz the governor phil murphy, gretchen whitmer, all posted pictures with their dogs and the caption below post a picture with your dog that doesn't involve shooting them and throwing them in a gravel pit that was tim walz saying, i'll start and president biden and kamala harris joined in the campaign, tweeted out photos of them, width dogs, smiling, and being happy. i mean, look, it's just frankly estonian story. i have a dog myself and it was a rescue who i had to go through years of training with. so i think that a lot of people look at her story and question why the dog wasn't just given up for adoption why why the dog wasn't put through rounds of trump? training to become the type of dog that she had hoped it to be. i mean, it was 14 month-old puppy, so i think that it's just assuming story that clearly is allowing republicans to pile long as well as democrats. >> again
kari lake posted a picture that is her own puppy. >> ron desantis, even posted a picture with a dog. >> and then the more expected sort of trolls are from her fellow governors on the democratic side, governor tim walz the governor phil murphy, gretchen whitmer, all posted pictures with their dogs and the caption below post a picture with your dog that doesn't involve shooting them and throwing them in a gravel pit that was tim walz saying, i'll start and president biden and kamala...