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>> i thought jack smith should have done it as soon as she drew the case. i understand the hesitation. the government's lawyer, you don't want to appear to have bias against the judge. nonetheless, i thought she had given him plenty of reason to do it. at this point, i think he has no choice. because if he does not ask the 11th circuit to recuse her, she could, for instance, set the case for trial pretty quickly. the time to do it is now. >> joyce vance, perfect person to have -- to talk about what should happen in florida. thank you so much. good night. >> night y'all. >>> we await the first criminal trial of the former u.s. president. do reading. raid all the charges against donald trump for yourselves and make your own decisions and we put all of this together and all of the indictments in the new book with the the trump indictments the historic charging documents with commentary and including helpful notes on the law as well as the many different players involved. >> thanks for joining us for this hour. good night. good night. >>> on this new hour, the
>> i thought jack smith should have done it as soon as she drew the case. i understand the hesitation. the government's lawyer, you don't want to appear to have bias against the judge. nonetheless, i thought she had given him plenty of reason to do it. at this point, i think he has no choice. because if he does not ask the 11th circuit to recuse her, she could, for instance, set the case for trial pretty quickly. the time to do it is now. >> joyce vance, perfect person to have -- to...
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but, today they got shut down, at least on one front by the jack smith team about this idea that you can't start a trial within a couple months of an election. obviously, you know a lot about these things. >> sure, the question that judge cannon and her rulings has favored the defense, even her reasoning has gone out of its way to find fault with the government and to side wherever possible with the defense in ways that i think continue to be pretty shocking. remember she's the judge that was reversed twice, before the case was indicted. we do know the trial date, she made various comment saying that she thought that the date that was sought by the government in july was unduly, optimistic. she asked a lot of questions of the defense about not having a trial at all, and certainly not in the lead up of the election. i was surprised she brought up the doj internal rule, because the internal rule of the department down in any way give rise to the defense, they are not enforceable in any court, they are just internal gots to the department. that's something that the judge knows well havi
but, today they got shut down, at least on one front by the jack smith team about this idea that you can't start a trial within a couple months of an election. obviously, you know a lot about these things. >> sure, the question that judge cannon and her rulings has favored the defense, even her reasoning has gone out of its way to find fault with the government and to side wherever possible with the defense in ways that i think continue to be pretty shocking. remember she's the judge that...
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what are jack smith's options here? >> well, there is a reason you've never seen anything like it. i don't think bradley and i have either. last week, bradley was trying to come up with the best yiddish phrase for this and i have sort of 2m words for you. michigan, which is what this is, because the choice that was given by judge cannon to the parties is to ask jack smith, so please draft a jury instructions seeming that the earth is flat and the second one is please draft a jury instruction assuming that the earth is square. so the second m word is mandamus. mandamus is the ability -- it is not an appeal. it is for extraordinary actions by a district court that so clearly violate the law that you can appeal it right then and there. it is a very tough standard, but at this point, what she did today is so nutty, and so against appointed bradley has been making, which is that the 11th circuit has actually already decided this issue and what she has proposed is against what the 11th circuit is already reversed her on, so i really think to the extent that you think that she is engaging
what are jack smith's options here? >> well, there is a reason you've never seen anything like it. i don't think bradley and i have either. last week, bradley was trying to come up with the best yiddish phrase for this and i have sort of 2m words for you. michigan, which is what this is, because the choice that was given by judge cannon to the parties is to ask jack smith, so please draft a jury instructions seeming that the earth is flat and the second one is please draft a jury...
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>> jack smith is not a superhero. so, this idea that he has all kinds of levers that he can pull with this court to get them to speed up the trial, that is not the case. he has nothing beyond his advocacy in that april 25th hearing in order to move this forward. and again, to prevail the supreme court, you need five votes. and this is a conservative 6-3 super majority. and there's a lot going on here. so you're right. i think about the court in a broader contest. this is a big turn for the court. leaving that to the side, the court had enormous cases about the future of the administrative state. and the administrative agencies. there are a number of cases about the post dobbs reproductive rights landscape. we heard one of these cases in the availability of mifepristone. and i think you have to think about all the different parts in this entire docket for this term to understand what might be going on with regard to the trump cases. just hold on with me for a minute. i know abortion has nothing to do with donald trump.
>> jack smith is not a superhero. so, this idea that he has all kinds of levers that he can pull with this court to get them to speed up the trial, that is not the case. he has nothing beyond his advocacy in that april 25th hearing in order to move this forward. and again, to prevail the supreme court, you need five votes. and this is a conservative 6-3 super majority. and there's a lot going on here. so you're right. i think about the court in a broader contest. this is a big turn for...
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>> jack smith is not a superhero, so this idea that he has all kinds of levers he can pull with this court to get them to speed up this trial, that is not the case, he is nothing beyond his advocacy and that april 25th hearing, in order to move this forward. and again, to prevail the supreme court, you need five votes. and this is a conservative 6-3 super majority, and there is a lot going on here. so, you are right, i do think about the court in a broader context, this is a big term for the court, even leaving aside his trunk cases, disqualification, the immunity issue, leaving that to the side, the court had enormous cases about the future of the ministry to state and administrative agencies, there are a number of cases about the post jobs reproductive rights case, we heard one of these cases on this week of mifepristone and regulations, and i think you have to think about all of those different parts in this entire docket for this term to understand what might be going on with regard to the trump cases. so, we saw in that oral argument in the abortion case, hold on with me a momen
>> jack smith is not a superhero, so this idea that he has all kinds of levers he can pull with this court to get them to speed up this trial, that is not the case, he is nothing beyond his advocacy and that april 25th hearing, in order to move this forward. and again, to prevail the supreme court, you need five votes. and this is a conservative 6-3 super majority, and there is a lot going on here. so, you are right, i do think about the court in a broader context, this is a big term for...
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donald trump would be able to end both federal prosecutions against him by special prosecutor jack smith, who would be instantly fired by donald trump, and the two state prosecutions against him in new york and georgia would be forced into at least a four year delay until donald trump is no longer president. if donald trump wins, then justice loses. if donald trump wins, human decency loses. if donald trump wins, then all is lost. and as of tonight, most american voters know that. joe biden is going to win millions more votes than donald trump, but this is the country where you can come in second with the voters and still become president. still win. thanks to the perversion of democracy the founders called the electoral college. and as of tonight, not enough people in a handful of so- called battleground states who will decide this election understand the stakes of this election. not enough people in those few states yet understand what they will lose if donald trump wins. and so, we begin tonight with what is now the most important of those stories that we will be covering this year, b
donald trump would be able to end both federal prosecutions against him by special prosecutor jack smith, who would be instantly fired by donald trump, and the two state prosecutions against him in new york and georgia would be forced into at least a four year delay until donald trump is no longer president. if donald trump wins, then justice loses. if donald trump wins, human decency loses. if donald trump wins, then all is lost. and as of tonight, most american voters know that. joe biden is...
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after jack smith smiled proposed child date in july 8th. donald trump's lawyers did not ask for a date after the presidential election. they didn't ask for a date next year. they asked for a trial date, just four weeks later on august 12th. after four weeks requested by jack smith donald trump's favor, judge aileen mercedes, can he appointed to her federal judgeship will decide that trial date. , and republicans were very disappointed today and hunter biden's closed-door testimony under oath to a republican- controlled house committee. because, apparently, his testimony was solid and clear about his father not being involved in his business. and because of jones and the transcript that was released tonight, like. this mr. gaetz, were you on drugs when you were on the board. the witness, mr. gaetz, look me in the eye you really think that's appropriate to ask me? mr., gates absolutely, the witness -- of all the people sitting around this table, do you think that's appropriate to ask me? >> congressman gaetz, of course, of all the people sitt
after jack smith smiled proposed child date in july 8th. donald trump's lawyers did not ask for a date after the presidential election. they didn't ask for a date next year. they asked for a trial date, just four weeks later on august 12th. after four weeks requested by jack smith donald trump's favor, judge aileen mercedes, can he appointed to her federal judgeship will decide that trial date. , and republicans were very disappointed today and hunter biden's closed-door testimony under oath to...
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jack smith and donald trump were both in the front room of the courtroom while the judge heard arguments from both sides on the motion to dismiss. donald trump did not have to be there. he was there. in the front row. he was dangling the supreme court nomination in front of his trial judge. judge cannon knows that her future as a trump appointee to the united states supreme court depends on how she handles this case and what voters do on election day. so far she has been handling this case in every way she possibly could to please donald trump. if donald trump wins the presidency again, he would truly approach clarence thomas with an offer he could not refuse. leave the supreme court so donald trump can replace him with a younger conservative like judge cannon. clarence thomas gets a beautiful brand-new custom-built to his specifications, motorhome. the most expensive one in the world. complete with goldplated trump style faucets. as much private travel as clarence thomas could possibly want on donald trump's private planes and other corporate private planes and massive amounts of money
jack smith and donald trump were both in the front room of the courtroom while the judge heard arguments from both sides on the motion to dismiss. donald trump did not have to be there. he was there. in the front row. he was dangling the supreme court nomination in front of his trial judge. judge cannon knows that her future as a trump appointee to the united states supreme court depends on how she handles this case and what voters do on election day. so far she has been handling this case in...
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what are jack smith options here? >> there's a reason you've never seen anything like it. i don't think bradley and i have either. last week, bradley was trying to come up with the best yiddish phrase for this. there are 2m words for this, meshugana. the choice was please draft a jury instruction assuming that the earth is flat. and the second one is please draft a jury instruction assuming that the earth is square. so, the second word is mandamus. it is not an appeal, it is extraordinary actions by a district court that so clearly violate the law that you can appeal it right then and there . it is a very tough standard but, at this point, what she did today is so nutty and so against a point that bradley has been making, which is that the 11th circuit has decided to this issue and what she has proposed is against what the 11th circuit has reversed her on. i think to the extent that you think she is engaging in partisanship, which i do, there really has to be a time that you take her up on it and you do this mandamus to get to the 11th circuit before she gets to trial beca
what are jack smith options here? >> there's a reason you've never seen anything like it. i don't think bradley and i have either. last week, bradley was trying to come up with the best yiddish phrase for this. there are 2m words for this, meshugana. the choice was please draft a jury instruction assuming that the earth is flat. and the second one is please draft a jury instruction assuming that the earth is square. so, the second word is mandamus. it is not an appeal, it is extraordinary...
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arguing there is no reason for the court to hear donald trump's appeal, special prosecutor jack smith said that the criminal immunity that donald trump is asking the supreme court to write into constitutional law, "would upend understandings about presidential accountability that have prevailed throughout history while undermining democracy and the rule of law, particularly where. as here, a former president is alleged to have committed crimes to remain in office despite losing an election, thereby seeking to subvert constitutional procedures for transferring power and to disenfranchise millions of voters." andrew weissman is back with us. and andrew, you know, it is a reasonably sized brief to a supreme court appeal. got 50 pages in here. did you find anything that is worthy of supreme court consideration in this argument? >> no. but to add to your list, it is worth noting that you can add donald trump himself. during the second impeachment, his argument as to why he should not be impeached successfully convicted in the senate was because he could always be criminally prosecuted late
arguing there is no reason for the court to hear donald trump's appeal, special prosecutor jack smith said that the criminal immunity that donald trump is asking the supreme court to write into constitutional law, "would upend understandings about presidential accountability that have prevailed throughout history while undermining democracy and the rule of law, particularly where. as here, a former president is alleged to have committed crimes to remain in office despite losing an...
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smith's reply to this, and the smith filings are the exact opposite in this, just flawless all the way through. we will be waiting to see what he has to say about this. andrew weissmann, thank you very much for joining us tonight. >>> up next, president biden is campaigning in the southwest this week and making direct appeals to latino voters and campaign ads using the biden harris campaigns huge fundraising advantage over the trump campaign to pay for early advertising. simon rosenberg will join us next. sometimes, the lows of bipolar depression feel darkest before dawn. with caplyta, there's a chance to let in the lyte™. caplyta is proven to deliver significant relief across bipolar depression. unlike some medicines that only treat bipolar i, caplyta treats both bipolar i and ii depression. and in clinical trials, movement disorders and weight gain were not common. call your doctor about sudden mood changes, behaviors, or suicidal thoughts. antidepressants may increase these risks in young adults. elderly dementia patients have increased risk of death or stroke. report fever, confu
smith's reply to this, and the smith filings are the exact opposite in this, just flawless all the way through. we will be waiting to see what he has to say about this. andrew weissmann, thank you very much for joining us tonight. >>> up next, president biden is campaigning in the southwest this week and making direct appeals to latino voters and campaign ads using the biden harris campaigns huge fundraising advantage over the trump campaign to pay for early advertising. simon...
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jack smith will be pulling them back to what is actually charged. >> that is right, we are not about to have this spring court argument, the sense of urgency around this question if trump is immune to criminal liability does not seem to be urgent for the supreme court so we will hear it a month and a half from now and we will not know when the decision comes out but in that moment we will hear where the court is on this. we heard a little bit from some of the justices in this disqualification opinion that came out, three of the justices in a fiery occurrence essentially calling trump a oath breaking insurrectionist and chiding their colleagues for trying to move this in a direction favorable for the court and trump. >> the book is, the trump indictments, the commentary is really what it is all about. thank you both for being here. it was really fun earlier tonight as well. we will be right back. ht back. even days after using. most common side effects were nausea, indigestion, and stomach pain. ask about nurtec odt. my name is marie. i'm 49 years old and i'm a business owner. i own a
jack smith will be pulling them back to what is actually charged. >> that is right, we are not about to have this spring court argument, the sense of urgency around this question if trump is immune to criminal liability does not seem to be urgent for the supreme court so we will hear it a month and a half from now and we will not know when the decision comes out but in that moment we will hear where the court is on this. we heard a little bit from some of the justices in this...
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. >> andrew, your co-authors, jack smith and fani willis, i am sure. these indictments are beautifully written, which is not something you often say about indictments. they are as easy to read, is sensible to read as indictments can be, as if they were hoping they would be offered this way to the public.>> we'll explain that these are speaking indictments. a lot of times they are much more opaque. even with that, there is a lot of material that if you're not a lawyer, it would be hard to understand. we were trying to make sure that the public will understand what is about to happen in new york on march 25th. it is so important that this not be something that people just get only through filtered through newspapers or this show. you want people to be able to actually understand the charges and understand the decisions made in the language that is used, and as melissa said, we tried to put it in context in terms of other charges globally because we are not the first country doing this. there are many, many countries that have done this and done it better
. >> andrew, your co-authors, jack smith and fani willis, i am sure. these indictments are beautifully written, which is not something you often say about indictments. they are as easy to read, is sensible to read as indictments can be, as if they were hoping they would be offered this way to the public.>> we'll explain that these are speaking indictments. a lot of times they are much more opaque. even with that, there is a lot of material that if you're not a lawyer, it would be...
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jack smith and donald trump were both in the front row of the courtroom today while judge cannon heard arguments from both sides on the trump motion to dismiss. donald trump did not have to be there. but he was there in the front row. dangling a supreme court nomination in front of his trial judge. judge cannon knows that her future as a trump appointee depends on how she handles this case and what voters do on election day. so far, she is handling this case in any way she possibly could to please donald trump. if donald trump wins the presidency again, he would surely approach clarence thomas with an offer he couldn't refuse. leave the supreme court. so donald trump can replace him with a younger conservative like judge cannon. and judge thomas gets a beautiful brand new custom built to his specifications motor home. the most expensive one in the world surely complete with vulgar gold plated trump style faucets and as much private travel as he could possibly want on donald trump's private planes and massive amounts of money from republican billionaires who will put clarence thomas on
jack smith and donald trump were both in the front row of the courtroom today while judge cannon heard arguments from both sides on the trump motion to dismiss. donald trump did not have to be there. but he was there in the front row. dangling a supreme court nomination in front of his trial judge. judge cannon knows that her future as a trump appointee depends on how she handles this case and what voters do on election day. so far, she is handling this case in any way she possibly could to...
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to believe the election was stolen is a question that jack smith would like have on a juror questionnaire. understandably trump's gonna fight them every tooth and nail. >> i have picked juries in high- profile matters. not as high-profile as this. but in the end run cases in the special counsel case. yes, it's a challenge, but it can happen. you're not looking for, and the law does not require, somebody who has never heard of the case. it would be impossible. and also completely inconsistent with our history when we were much smaller and people knew lots of people who were participants in the trial. so it's just required that somebody is going to be able to say you know what, i mean i take my oath of office as a juror seriously and will decide this case based on the facts and the law. the biggest issue i see in that is the juror who wants on the jury. for either side. you don't want somebody sneaking on who is going to say they're gonna be fair and impartial but it's either gonna vote for the government or only vote for the defense. that's the biggest issue in this. people like i can't wa
to believe the election was stolen is a question that jack smith would like have on a juror questionnaire. understandably trump's gonna fight them every tooth and nail. >> i have picked juries in high- profile matters. not as high-profile as this. but in the end run cases in the special counsel case. yes, it's a challenge, but it can happen. you're not looking for, and the law does not require, somebody who has never heard of the case. it would be impossible. and also completely...
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smith's case against donald trump for his crimes leading up to and on january 6th will be taken. that jury will be taken from those 700,000 people who spent yesterday not voting for donald trump. the odds of one of the 376 trumplicans who did vote for donald trump in washington, d.c. yesterday ending up on his jury there are worse than your odds with any lottery ticket you can find anywhere. the most important washington, d.c. voters for donald trump, though, are, of course, the nine of voters on the united states supreme court. yesterday, all nine of them agreed that donald trump, who three of the justices called, an with breaking insurrectionist, cannot be barred from presidential ballots on individual states by section three of the 14th amendment. section three of the 14th amendment, as most of you know by now, barr's anyone who took an oath of office and then engaged in insurrection from ever holding office again. donald trump's lawyers lost on several arguments that they presented to the court. they argue that the presidency is not an office. the supreme court ignored that a
smith's case against donald trump for his crimes leading up to and on january 6th will be taken. that jury will be taken from those 700,000 people who spent yesterday not voting for donald trump. the odds of one of the 376 trumplicans who did vote for donald trump in washington, d.c. yesterday ending up on his jury there are worse than your odds with any lottery ticket you can find anywhere. the most important washington, d.c. voters for donald trump, though, are, of course, the nine of voters...
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then, the supreme court case you have not heard about that could threaten jack smith's charges against trump. and sharpening his messaging, president biden's campaign pivot during the stark contrast to his competitor, as the 11th hour gets underway on this monday night
then, the supreme court case you have not heard about that could threaten jack smith's charges against trump. and sharpening his messaging, president biden's campaign pivot during the stark contrast to his competitor, as the 11th hour gets underway on this monday night
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smith's side specifically asked for basically, as fast a ruling as possible. >> absolutely, they asked for that, and that they press the court to point out to them that there is no legitimate grounds for a delay here. after all, remember the reason this is being heard now is, this is very much out of turn, when you have a claim with immunity, the court says, this is so urgent and important that we will decide this before the trial, not after the trial. the normal rule is all of these issues get decided after a trial takes place. so that's one more reason that they really should be pressing for a very quick decision because after all, if they delay the decision here, that will make it almost impossible for there to be a trial before the general election, which is something that as we point out, the public has a right to. >> it would be fascinating to see if they could get the court to actually engage, get members of the court to engage on the issue of how quickly can you issue an opinion to possibly here, you know, ketanji brown jackson say something about how quickly it could be issued
smith's side specifically asked for basically, as fast a ruling as possible. >> absolutely, they asked for that, and that they press the court to point out to them that there is no legitimate grounds for a delay here. after all, remember the reason this is being heard now is, this is very much out of turn, when you have a claim with immunity, the court says, this is so urgent and important that we will decide this before the trial, not after the trial. the normal rule is all of these...
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with special counsel jack smith's cases against donald trump getting either ground to a halt or immunity appeals or bogged down by the judge in the classified documents case, does carroll's case show there are still ways to hold trump accountable? >> you bet . it does, jonathan, because guess what trump has not done since he got whacked with that $84 million verdict -- he has not defamed e jean carroll. he quit lying about her because he knows if he does, she's going to slap him with another defamation lawsuit. so going bankrupt seems to scare trump more than going to prison. >> do you think trump will be successful on appeal in either overturning the judgment or lowering the penalty? >> no he won't be. there's this myth, as we heard from your earlier guest, that trump beats his court cases, he's successful at delay but when judgment day comes he loses all the time. he lost to e jean carroll in the defamation case. he lost to lakisha james in the civil fraud case. he lost his case involving his fake university in the case involving his fake charity, so i don't think he's going to be succ
with special counsel jack smith's cases against donald trump getting either ground to a halt or immunity appeals or bogged down by the judge in the classified documents case, does carroll's case show there are still ways to hold trump accountable? >> you bet . it does, jonathan, because guess what trump has not done since he got whacked with that $84 million verdict -- he has not defamed e jean carroll. he quit lying about her because he knows if he does, she's going to slap him with...
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smith's indictment identifies as trump employee number five. that employee, bryan butler said in a cnn interview that he helped trump codefendant move some of the boxes from florida to new jersey. >> we got to the airport. i ended up loading all the luggage i had and he had a bunch of boxes. >> you noticed that he had boxes. >> oh yeah, they were the boxes in the indictment. the white banker's boxes. that's what i remember loading. >> did you have any idea at the time there was potential u.s. national security secrets in the boxes? >> i had no clue. >> he explained why he is speaking out now publicly. >> well, i mean, it has been almost a year since fbi agents showed up at my house when my wife was at home. and you know, over the course of the last year, emotionally it has been a roller coaster. the judge says he will release the names of the witnesses. you know. you go from highs and lows in this. and, instead of just waiting for it to just come out, i think it is better that i get to at least say what happened. then it coming out in the news.
smith's indictment identifies as trump employee number five. that employee, bryan butler said in a cnn interview that he helped trump codefendant move some of the boxes from florida to new jersey. >> we got to the airport. i ended up loading all the luggage i had and he had a bunch of boxes. >> you noticed that he had boxes. >> oh yeah, they were the boxes in the indictment. the white banker's boxes. that's what i remember loading. >> did you have any idea at the time...
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today, donald trump's defense team filed their final reply to jack smith, arguing that the national archives referral of the case was, "politically motivated and driven by the biden administration as a political weapon against donald trump." donald trump is expected to attend the hearing, which will begin tomorrow morning at 10:00 a.m. in ft. pierce, florida. joining our discussion is joyce vance, former u.s. attorney and professor at the university of alabama school of law. she is a cohost of the podcast #sistersinlaw. andrew wiseman is still with us. joyce, what do you expect to hear tomorrow? >> i think we will hear exactly what you are talking about, lawrence, this notion that trump has of the imperial presidency that lasts not just while he is in office but afterwards. and, we would reach these ridiculous results, for instance, that the president could take the nations classified secrets and purely through the magical device of saying that they are now his personal papers would be able to walk away from the white house with them without facing any criminal consequences. so, that is the
today, donald trump's defense team filed their final reply to jack smith, arguing that the national archives referral of the case was, "politically motivated and driven by the biden administration as a political weapon against donald trump." donald trump is expected to attend the hearing, which will begin tomorrow morning at 10:00 a.m. in ft. pierce, florida. joining our discussion is joyce vance, former u.s. attorney and professor at the university of alabama school of law. she is a...