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feet jack smith drag his feet. you got to remember i wasn't part of this case during the investigative phases. they could have brought this indictment much earlier. they didn't at the time we had mar-a-lago, which was going very fast that's a lot of activity. january 6, which was sitting there pretty much at a standstill. all the sudden, he brings his snap indictment and all of a sudden the next few weeks realize, oh, shoot, i forgot to interview a whole bunch of witnesses. the timing of the indictment is something that's control. another thing >> all right. we'll leave it there doj are >> confusion. like that? >> well, we'll leave it there with the two of you on that one. does that conversation i think it doesn't matter. it's doj >> i think that's a longer conversation. we'll have to continue another de elie, mr.. tim parlatore. thank you both very much >> thank you. >> and next, the dual at the border, the rhetoric, the promises, and biden's dare her to donald trump standby >> my best reputation is ruined. >> it'
feet jack smith drag his feet. you got to remember i wasn't part of this case during the investigative phases. they could have brought this indictment much earlier. they didn't at the time we had mar-a-lago, which was going very fast that's a lot of activity. january 6, which was sitting there pretty much at a standstill. all the sudden, he brings his snap indictment and all of a sudden the next few weeks realize, oh, shoot, i forgot to interview a whole bunch of witnesses. the timing of the...
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jack smith mean for trump? >> well, erin, what you're seeing is prosecutors trying to find a way to box out the former president and his legal team. because as you as you noted, what they're trying to do is delay this to the point where it makes it impossible for tanya chutkan and the dc trial to find find room on the calendar. they know that obviously, given the fact that this that the that the immunity question is now before the supreme court we anticipate that what they're going to do is look for something that will make sure that that the dc judge doesn't have room on the calendar between now and november to sketch chilling new trial. and so what jack smith is doing here in making this request is trying to at least have the judge in in in florida put a put on the calendar a date of july 8th. now, we don't know whether she'll go for this. there are a lot of complicated issues because this has to do with classified info aileen cannon, the judge, there has pretty much been been helpful with the former presiden
jack smith mean for trump? >> well, erin, what you're seeing is prosecutors trying to find a way to box out the former president and his legal team. because as you as you noted, what they're trying to do is delay this to the point where it makes it impossible for tanya chutkan and the dc trial to find find room on the calendar. they know that obviously, given the fact that this that the that the immunity question is now before the supreme court we anticipate that what they're going to do...
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smith gets his way and gets this july 8th start so if jack smith gets a july 8 start, we do probably get a verdict before the election. and so there are two routes. one is based on jack smith's own estimation, you'd probably get the end of trial around august 19, trump's estimation is it's going to take a longer period of time for the trial so that you get a verdict and the end of trial around september 16th. but both of those, uh, well, before both the alliance, while before the election, that's right. so that's why the july 8 and whether or not the judge cannon goes with the justice department is key to that outcome. >> so ben doesn't mean do you think there's any coincidence that smith makes this move a day after the supreme court said it would hear arguments on trump's immunity while he's in office. and they said that they're going to take that up and that means that likely will not get a verdict by election day in any scenario. >> it does mean that it means the florida case is the one that can move forward. the quickest. >> i >> don't think it's an accident, but i think this hea
smith gets his way and gets this july 8th start so if jack smith gets a july 8 start, we do probably get a verdict before the election. and so there are two routes. one is based on jack smith's own estimation, you'd probably get the end of trial around august 19, trump's estimation is it's going to take a longer period of time for the trial so that you get a verdict and the end of trial around september 16th. but both of those, uh, well, before both the alliance, while before the election,...
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jack smith has moved expeditiously. so trump is doing what any defendant would do in that case, but he'd run out of time if garland had gotten off the dime. that's the bottom line. what else? i love this part of the show, you know, i do if people don't vote third party, this cycle, they never will. i have to say, eric in god if i'm talking about the 2028 election, i'm not talking about third-party candidacies. if this cycle doesn't at least produce a legitimate three-way or three-way plus contest where somebody gets on the debate stage, right? allah? ross perot, then i to give up, i to give up because this, according to all the data is the cycle where people are yearning. gallup says a plurality or independence than not publicans or democrats. people want a choice. >> give it to them. one more. if i've got time not closing the border will cost biden the election. he cannot win private account. i got to say that poll today, the combination of the gallup data and mohammad yunus, the editor in chief, dissected it for us. a
jack smith has moved expeditiously. so trump is doing what any defendant would do in that case, but he'd run out of time if garland had gotten off the dime. that's the bottom line. what else? i love this part of the show, you know, i do if people don't vote third party, this cycle, they never will. i have to say, eric in god if i'm talking about the 2028 election, i'm not talking about third-party candidacies. if this cycle doesn't at least produce a legitimate three-way or three-way plus...
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>> i think what jack smith is motivated by is not november. i think it's by june which is the end of the supreme court's term. and i think all he's thinking about is making sure that there's no ambiguity whatsoever about what the supreme court said. so the one thing we know that is that by the end of june, the supreme court will have rolled one way or another on this executive immunity claim and this trial is set for one to proposed date is one week after the close of the immunity thing. >> we always talk about it in the realm of the election interference case. but trump's also claiming that in the classified documents case and you heard jim trusty saying there that he thinks he can have an argument on part of it, but it's also the willful retention in the obstruction of the efforts to investigate to try to get them back. that is also at play here and also trump was not an office. can argue presidential immunity if he was two years out of the office. >> yeah, absolutely. so like even under the nixon versus fitzgerald case for says than the lan
>> i think what jack smith is motivated by is not november. i think it's by june which is the end of the supreme court's term. and i think all he's thinking about is making sure that there's no ambiguity whatsoever about what the supreme court said. so the one thing we know that is that by the end of june, the supreme court will have rolled one way or another on this executive immunity claim and this trial is set for one to proposed date is one week after the close of the immunity thing....
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jack smith won a conviction. donald was a likely buys presidential contender in 2016 and that was reversed in 2016 eight-zero. jack smith is a political scud missile who sent in to take out presidential contenders like he did with bob mcdonald. on the presidential immunity argument there is president in the civil context. the president of the united states is a -- is immune from civil prosecution or the perimeter of his official acts under that nixon case we discussed 40 years ago. if federal judges are immune from criminal prosecution absolutely immune from criminal prosecution, and so are members of congress, why wanted the president of the united it would destroy our country. another example besides biden and riley is president obama and his legal advisor, now federal circuit judge david baron on the first circuit court of appeals in bostodavid baron advised president obama it was lawful for obama to order an extra traditional drone strike on two american citizens including a minor. if obama is not immune from
jack smith won a conviction. donald was a likely buys presidential contender in 2016 and that was reversed in 2016 eight-zero. jack smith is a political scud missile who sent in to take out presidential contenders like he did with bob mcdonald. on the presidential immunity argument there is president in the civil context. the president of the united states is a -- is immune from civil prosecution or the perimeter of his official acts under that nixon case we discussed 40 years ago. if federal...
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jack smith is now suggesting that they move the start date for that trial in the classified documents case down in mar-a-lago, a move that comes just one day after the justices slam the brakes on the case against trump and washington for his efforts to overturn the 2020 election results late this evening, the special counsel's office filed this new motion that you're seeing here, asking for donald trump and two of his co-defendants to stand trial beginning july the 8th one other co-defendant, a little bit after that, the special counsel's team wants to get basically at least one case heard before election day in november. trump's legal team responded with a now familiar retort saying that a fair trial cannot be held until after the 2024 presidential election is concluded. i'm quoting them but they did offer another date this year and the judge who has been mired in some controversy in this case, judge aileen cannon is expected to hash it out in a >> hearing tomorrow in florida that could be critical to the future of the classified documents case i'm joined tonight by an attorney who u
jack smith is now suggesting that they move the start date for that trial in the classified documents case down in mar-a-lago, a move that comes just one day after the justices slam the brakes on the case against trump and washington for his efforts to overturn the 2020 election results late this evening, the special counsel's office filed this new motion that you're seeing here, asking for donald trump and two of his co-defendants to stand trial beginning july the 8th one other co-defendant, a...
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so if that holds true, jack smith would then just be starting. let's say we get that vision and it goes against president trump's claims. now, the case goes, starts moving forward again. you have about another three months of pretrial machinations before that thing could finally get in front of a jury. so that puts him with something else to do in july and he's now trying to squeeze mar-lago in there. >> well, he is saying jack, they're saying july 8th, the trump team says they want to ask the election, but they're also saying, well, also maybe august 12, is it what is the tactical advantage to that date >> so like jack smith, they're asking for the world they wanted after the election. they know they're not going to get that. they asked for that once before earlier in this case, and that was rejected. so now they're saying if you're going to put it on before, let's have it start on august 12th. coincidentally, august is the month that the dc case could possibly if everything goes right for jack smith, could possibly get on the calendar, but not
so if that holds true, jack smith would then just be starting. let's say we get that vision and it goes against president trump's claims. now, the case goes, starts moving forward again. you have about another three months of pretrial machinations before that thing could finally get in front of a jury. so that puts him with something else to do in july and he's now trying to squeeze mar-lago in there. >> well, he is saying jack, they're saying july 8th, the trump team says they want to...
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so how does jack smith get this? can he do a pretrial ruling on appeal? normally you can in a criminal case. can you get a written saying 11th circuit help me, the judge is wrong on the law as evidence by her proposed scenarios, we need you to intervene so she doesn't give the wrong instruction, and that's what people need to understand. jury instructions, these are instructions given to jurors to tell them what the law is. but if her law is wrong going in, the jury is screwed. they have no options left if they're being told by the judge to apply the wrong law. >> and the framing in these two binary situations seems a bit premature, certainly out of left field. >> not even premature, it's just flawed, it's wrong, and then it's premature as well. >> carroll lenning, thank you so much. everyone else stick around. when we come back, donald trump may have finally run out of options realizing he may have to raise half a billion dollars somehow in the next six days. the reality of this deadline is finally sinking in and it is freaking him out. raging at the jud
so how does jack smith get this? can he do a pretrial ruling on appeal? normally you can in a criminal case. can you get a written saying 11th circuit help me, the judge is wrong on the law as evidence by her proposed scenarios, we need you to intervene so she doesn't give the wrong instruction, and that's what people need to understand. jury instructions, these are instructions given to jurors to tell them what the law is. but if her law is wrong going in, the jury is screwed. they have no...
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i think that the odds favor jack smith on the outcome. but, you know, the supreme court could very well decide that it agrees with the result but not the rationale of the d.c. circuit. there's a lot of unanswered questions on presidential immunity that may have given justices discomfort. they may want to see some greater delineation of lines trying to show when a president does have immunity in future cases. there are members of this court who take a very robust view of executive power and privilege. once they make that decision, it will return the mandate to the trial court. is it possible that they could still hold a trial before the election? yes. but allegations against the court that it's slow walking this case are, as usual, overwrought and undersupported. i mean, the court is actually moving at a much faster pace than it usually does. examples that people have raised in the past are distinguishable as to why the court moved a little faster in those cases. i think we have to take a moment here to understand the weight and the gravit
i think that the odds favor jack smith on the outcome. but, you know, the supreme court could very well decide that it agrees with the result but not the rationale of the d.c. circuit. there's a lot of unanswered questions on presidential immunity that may have given justices discomfort. they may want to see some greater delineation of lines trying to show when a president does have immunity in future cases. there are members of this court who take a very robust view of executive power and...
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jack smith wants it sooner, the defense later. it says it won't be fair unless it's much later as an after the election. and john king's election year journey all over the map, taking him to pennsylvania tonight to see how seniors view a race between the two oldest presidential candidate it's ever. good evening, thanks for joining us. we begin tonight, keeping them honest with immigration, the issue americans now called their top concern according to recent polling. today, president biden and former president trump made dueling visits. the texas southern border, biden to brownsville, trump to eagle pass to cities about 300 miles apart. two candidates who each in his own way has failed to fix a broken and severely overburdened border security and asylum system. president biden, many believed by omission, by not making the problem enough of a priority until recently, even after a year of increasing numbers of people crossing the border. and rising border encounters which set new records and don't trump by commission. he's actively o
jack smith wants it sooner, the defense later. it says it won't be fair unless it's much later as an after the election. and john king's election year journey all over the map, taking him to pennsylvania tonight to see how seniors view a race between the two oldest presidential candidate it's ever. good evening, thanks for joining us. we begin tonight, keeping them honest with immigration, the issue americans now called their top concern according to recent polling. today, president biden and...
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>> i thought jack smith should have done it as soon as she drew the case. i understand the hesitation. the government's lawyer, you don't want to appear to have bias against the judge. nonetheless, i thought she had given him plenty of reason to do it. at this point, i think he has no choice. because if he does not ask the 11th circuit to recuse her, she could, for instance, set the case for trial pretty quickly. the time to do it is now. >> joyce vance, perfect person to have -- to talk about what should happen in florida. thank you so much. good night. >> night y'all. >>> we await the first criminal trial of the former u.s. president. do reading. raid all the charges against donald trump for yourselves and make your own decisions and we put all of this together and all of the indictments in the new book with the the trump indictments the historic charging documents with commentary and including helpful notes on the law as well as the many different players involved. >> thanks for joining us for this hour. good night. good night. >>> on this new hour, the
>> i thought jack smith should have done it as soon as she drew the case. i understand the hesitation. the government's lawyer, you don't want to appear to have bias against the judge. nonetheless, i thought she had given him plenty of reason to do it. at this point, i think he has no choice. because if he does not ask the 11th circuit to recuse her, she could, for instance, set the case for trial pretty quickly. the time to do it is now. >> joyce vance, perfect person to have -- to...
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so i think that jack smith and his team are probably considering it. i don't know that they'll use this particular order to do it. >> she's going to dismiss this case, let him off. >> if she dismissed the case before trial, that would be better because they could appeal that. the worst case is they're in the trial, she grants an acquittal. >> let's talk about this. here it is, this is donald trump's filing to the supreme court. he's trying to make the claim that trump's actions reaching out to state officials and congress and his vice president was based on some extensive evidence of fraud that's apparently secret that he's never shown us before. doesn't he have to show this evidence, and isn't it weird he would also be showing it to clarence thomas whose wife also believes in the big lie and thinks there was fraud? maybe she has the evidence. >> this is recycled from what he's been filing since he was before judge chutkan and the d.c. circuit. everything i did, everything jack smith's indictment charges me with is part of my official acts. of course i
so i think that jack smith and his team are probably considering it. i don't know that they'll use this particular order to do it. >> she's going to dismiss this case, let him off. >> if she dismissed the case before trial, that would be better because they could appeal that. the worst case is they're in the trial, she grants an acquittal. >> let's talk about this. here it is, this is donald trump's filing to the supreme court. he's trying to make the claim that trump's...
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then you have deranged jack smith who's a trump hater and he's going wild. he's been overturned unanimously by the supreme court. went over other people over the years. he's had great failure. he's mean, nasty, unfair. and the judges on these cases, they're all trump haters other than one or two that can be fair. look at new york what's happened. these people have tremendous hatred. you can't do this to a president. i'm not talking about me. i'm talking about in the future. a president has to be free. a president has to be if the president does a good job. i did some people would say a great job. >> the white house has not had the coordination with the doj on prosecutions regarding donald trump. this is separate. it's special counsel. the special counsel decided to bring charges. in terms of the fani willis stuff, i believe nathan wade testified he was making more money before he started to work for willis down there. back to garrett haake in west palm beach and ken dilanian. also, peter baker. why did he come out with a prepared statement? why this, why goi
then you have deranged jack smith who's a trump hater and he's going wild. he's been overturned unanimously by the supreme court. went over other people over the years. he's had great failure. he's mean, nasty, unfair. and the judges on these cases, they're all trump haters other than one or two that can be fair. look at new york what's happened. these people have tremendous hatred. you can't do this to a president. i'm not talking about me. i'm talking about in the future. a president has to...
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what does that reflect on the part of jack smith? >> first of all, we don't know that they haven't recovered them. it could be they have determined all of those boxes were returned to mar-a-lago or somewhere else, that they essentially follow trump around wherever he went. i had a conversation with someone on your team tonight about our shared recollection that when trump showed up in new york last year for a deposition in a new york attorney general civil fraud case, he was seen outside trump tower with personal aides carting those very same sorts of bankers boxes. look, there is a reference in the indictment to the fact that carlos de olliva and others shuttled those boxes to mar-a-lago. >> in the back of my mind this is all pure speculation, i should warn everyone at home. that it seems jack smith probably more than anyone else at the department of justice has noods the aprieveiated calender within which he's working. like he built a federal indictment on january 6th made for speed, let's get it done. that is very much up in the a
what does that reflect on the part of jack smith? >> first of all, we don't know that they haven't recovered them. it could be they have determined all of those boxes were returned to mar-a-lago or somewhere else, that they essentially follow trump around wherever he went. i had a conversation with someone on your team tonight about our shared recollection that when trump showed up in new york last year for a deposition in a new york attorney general civil fraud case, he was seen outside...
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shortly after jack smith's team submitted their filings, the judge overseeing the case aileen cannon scheduled a hearing for next thursday. joining our conversation, former deputy assistant attorney general harry litman is here and former acting assistant attorney general for national security at the justice department and msnbc legal analyst mary mccord is here. rick is still with me at the table. mary, let me ask you, jack smith's paper tells us most of what we know and from his paper and filings, he seems to be calling bs on all of trump's moves and arguments. is that a fair read? >> i think in legal terms that's what he's doing but using different verbiage and it had to be said. i mean, some of these motions, the motion to dismiss based on presidential immunity is based on an argument that mr. trump while he was president designated all of these classified documents as personal and, therefore, that was within the scope of his official acts that he should have immunity for. so you don't even have to get to the question, says jack smith, of whether a president, a former president i
shortly after jack smith's team submitted their filings, the judge overseeing the case aileen cannon scheduled a hearing for next thursday. joining our conversation, former deputy assistant attorney general harry litman is here and former acting assistant attorney general for national security at the justice department and msnbc legal analyst mary mccord is here. rick is still with me at the table. mary, let me ask you, jack smith's paper tells us most of what we know and from his paper and...
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jack smith's case didn't happen overnight. we went through an entire months of the jan. sixth hearings, grand jury testimony, and then finally indict an indictment pretty late in the game. so they knew when they when they when they brought this indictment, that they were gonna be up against it on a timeline and that there were going to be appeals in both interlocutory appeals, which are intermediate appeals that could be immediately taken up to the supreme court and then appeals after the fact after judgments rendered. so it's part of the process the justice system doesn't spin fast. this one in particular, though, given where jack smith's case was when it was filed, is probably moving along faster than most other federal cases. he in philadelphia, we have we have a number of criminal trials. would it be going on for four or five criminal cases that going on? for four or five years in the political corruption room >> all right. jim schultz. thank you very much. i want to go back to joan, who's onset with us, joan, you wanted to weigh in on something? >> i did. do you kno
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jack smith's team said they won't violate that, but how can they say that now? there could be delays because, you know, co-defendant's attorneys are talking september 9th as the absolute earliest. that's in violation of the 60-day rule. >> well, yeah, but it's not just that, there's a federal prosecutor's handbook for dealing with election offenses, and it makes it very clear that federal prosecutors are not supposed to take actions which interfere in elections, particularly election outcomes. jack smith waited, what, two years, two years to actually file this, these indictments, long after he had the evidence needed for that and, frankly, right as the campaign season for '24 was starting. so his denials that he's not trying to interfere with the election, i just think they fall flat. elizabeth: yeah. same with, you know, the georgia 2020 case. they waited years to file that too. >> right. elizabeth: let's get your reaction, tom, to cnn's ellie hoenig on the classified documents case going to trial in july or august. watch this. >> jack smith has now concluded i
jack smith's team said they won't violate that, but how can they say that now? there could be delays because, you know, co-defendant's attorneys are talking september 9th as the absolute earliest. that's in violation of the 60-day rule. >> well, yeah, but it's not just that, there's a federal prosecutor's handbook for dealing with election offenses, and it makes it very clear that federal prosecutors are not supposed to take actions which interfere in elections, particularly election...
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cannon signaled that jack smith's suggested july 8th trial date would be a no-go because the trial time frame for all the motion work that has to be done would be far too c compressed tt totally makes sense. of course trump's lawyers want this travesty to be postponed until after the election. i have an idea, how about holding off until and unless joe biden is brought up on charges for his own concealment of government records? all right, meanwhile, not a good idea to keep digging when you are already sinking but that's what smith's office did when his associate intimated that the judge wasn't moving quickly enough to which he tersely replied i can assure you that in this building there is a good deal of judicial work going on. oh. now, our reporters david spunt and jake gibb son are reporting that if they had to choose a date for the federal appeal, trump's legal team said they could do august 12th to avoid running right up until the election. of course, if a trial takes, let's say, six weeks, which is what they're projecting, keeping trump in a courtroom, now, that's the ultimate in e
cannon signaled that jack smith's suggested july 8th trial date would be a no-go because the trial time frame for all the motion work that has to be done would be far too c compressed tt totally makes sense. of course trump's lawyers want this travesty to be postponed until after the election. i have an idea, how about holding off until and unless joe biden is brought up on charges for his own concealment of government records? all right, meanwhile, not a good idea to keep digging when you are...
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>> jack smith is not a superhero. so, this idea that he has all kinds of levers that he can pull with this court to get them to speed up the trial, that is not the case. he has nothing beyond his advocacy in that april 25th hearing in order to move this forward. and again, to prevail the supreme court, you need five votes. and this is a conservative 6-3 super majority. and there's a lot going on here. so you're right. i think about the court in a broader contest. this is a big turn for the court. leaving that to the side, the court had enormous cases about the future of the administrative state. and the administrative agencies. there are a number of cases about the post dobbs reproductive rights landscape. we heard one of these cases in the availability of mifepristone. and i think you have to think about all the different parts in this entire docket for this term to understand what might be going on with regard to the trump cases. just hold on with me for a minute. i know abortion has nothing to do with donald trump.
>> jack smith is not a superhero. so, this idea that he has all kinds of levers that he can pull with this court to get them to speed up the trial, that is not the case. he has nothing beyond his advocacy in that april 25th hearing in order to move this forward. and again, to prevail the supreme court, you need five votes. and this is a conservative 6-3 super majority. and there's a lot going on here. so you're right. i think about the court in a broader contest. this is a big turn for...
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i think jack smith has adopted a surgical approach. he has determined based on the teams experience that further superseding the indictment is to know one's benefit of that means if and when the case were ever to be tried that we would see some of the things brian butler talks about in the interview come back and make a reappearance at trial including his testimony. >> there is been a fatalist attitude about this because it's unlikely to happen before november but there's a 50% chance that joe biden is the president come the end of november it means this trial could actually happen. i do wonder what you think the timeline is for this given canons and decision to set a date. >> a lot depends on what the supreme court does on immunity. trump has made multiple dismissals and two will be dealt with but presidential immunity is not one of them. depending on what the supreme court does the case could go away or come back to judge cannon to determine, even if he is immune, for acts that are alleged to be official. does the stuff in this indic
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what does that reflect on the part of jack smith? >> we don't know that they haven't recovered them. they may have determined that all of those boxes were returned to mar-a-lago or somewhere else. they followed trump around wherever he went. i had a conversation with someone on your team tonight about our shared recollection that when trump showed up in new york last near for a deposition, he was seen outside trump tower with personal aides carting some of those very same sorts of banker's boxes. look. there is a reference in the indictment to the fact that carlos talavera and others shepherded boxes onto a plane as trump was leaving from florida to head north. it never disclosed however, that ryan butler as trump employee number five was among them, and we don't know for sure what happened to those boxes or what was inside. he mac do you feel confident? in the back of my mind, this is all pure speculation. i should warn everyone at home. it seems that jack smith probably more than anyone else at the department of justice has underst
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on those charges brought by special counsel jack smith. and then there are another of other trump related cases including ones a little bit more amusing there's a trademark dispute over the phrase a trump too small a california man who does not care for the former president was to trademark that phrase. and sellar t-shirts and knickknacks displaying it. the biden administration is opposing him and said you cannot trademark the name of a political candidate against tha. canvas wishes. t the biden administration defendant donald trump interest in that use of his own name. we have a whole range of different cases from amusing to the deadly serious involving mr. >> wall street journal supreme court correspondent thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you for having me. ♪ c spans a "washington journal" our live form involving you to discuss the latest issues in government, politics, public policy. from washington and across the country. coming up wednesday morning david weigle discusses the super tuesday results. what they mean for the pr
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the judge issued an order to special counsel jack smith's team as well as defense attorneys requesting they submit jury instructions in anticipation of a trial. in her two-page order the judge said prosecutor and defense team must engage with the following competing scenarios. option one is to let a jury examine every record a former president retains at the end of his or her presidency and determine whether or not it's personal, or jurors must be told that, quote, a president has sole authority to categorize records as personal or presidential during his or her presidency. as "the washington post" noted that second hypothetical would appear to be one in which trump seemingly could not be convicted almost under any set of facts of improperly possessing classified documents. >>> and we've got yet another development in a separate trump legal case now. the judge overseeing his hush money case has denied the former president's request to keep two key witnesses from taking the stand. in a court filing last month, trump's legal team sought to block michael cohen and stormy daniels from test
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you know, when this case was first set out back in august, jack smith's case, today was the day they scheduled, right? they were actually trying, you know, we would be getting into questions of jury selection. we would be getting into potentially opening arguments this week. it would be all unfolding theoretically, but that's not what happened because of what happened in the appeals process and what happened in the supreme court behind me here, and, you know, even after this, there's still going to be two of these charges against donald trump that are still, i think sort of up in the air. two of the charges that jack smith brought were also using its more than 300 january 6th defendants itself, and we don't know that until how the supreme court sees that will be applied. the question is whether or not the question of donald -- how much responsibility donald trump bears for what happened on january 6th, and then the aftermath of the 2020 election will be resolved before we get to another election and that's not a situation that, you know, a lot of folks thought they would be in in the
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smith won't be able to appeal it to the 11th circuit court of appeals and then jack smith is done on that claim. so it's a temporary victory, a victory for now. >> and exactly, and that's why i called it auditions. mr. hur and ms. cannon might see themselves as justices when clarence thomas and alito predictably resign if a republican becomes president. that's just me. let me read the letter from donald trump's lawyers to congress. they said this, we have seen absolutely no indication that president trump knowingly possessed any of the marked documents or willfully broke any laws. rather, all indications are that the presence of marked documents at mar-a-lago was the result of haphazard records keeping and packing by white house staff and gsa, so blaming them. the applicable statute is willful retention. to prove willful retention, the prosecutor must establish it was knowing. now let's play donald trump talking about willful possession. >> i can't imagine you ever saying, bring me some of the boxes that we brought back from the white house. i would like to look at them. did you ever
smith won't be able to appeal it to the 11th circuit court of appeals and then jack smith is done on that claim. so it's a temporary victory, a victory for now. >> and exactly, and that's why i called it auditions. mr. hur and ms. cannon might see themselves as justices when clarence thomas and alito predictably resign if a republican becomes president. that's just me. let me read the letter from donald trump's lawyers to congress. they said this, we have seen absolutely no indication...
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in this instance, both jack smith, for the government, and the former president framed the questions differently, from each other. and it just so happens, that it's itnot unusual, the supreme court framed the question differently than both of those two parties, so as to require briefing and decision on the question that the court itself wants e to decide. now, what is that question? there's been a lot of discussion as to the framing of the question. in my view, a lot of that is a tempest in the teapot. at the end of the day, the court has asked the parties to brief the question that's an issue in the prosecution of the former president. mainly, whether the former president violated the constitution. when he acting, in his official capacity, as then president of the united states, sought to overturn the election in 2020, and obstructed the official proceeding of d the joint sessi of congress to count the electoral votes. that court, of course, can decide that question is narrowly or as broadly as it wishes. but this is a paradigm of a case where the courts will almost certainly decide
in this instance, both jack smith, for the government, and the former president framed the questions differently, from each other. and it just so happens, that it's itnot unusual, the supreme court framed the question differently than both of those two parties, so as to require briefing and decision on the question that the court itself wants e to decide. now, what is that question? there's been a lot of discussion as to the framing of the question. in my view, a lot of that is a tempest in the...
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>> i don't think jack smith wants to remove her. i think you would rather not do that because it is an extreme measure. she did get adverse rulings including from trump appointees twice. that was in the preindictment phase of this case when it was a civil case brought by trump. a totally bizarre kind of situation. she would in figure of him -- favor of him in a really wacky way. it's sort of like a three strikes and you're out kind of situation. again, i don't think jack smith wants to do that. they would have to reassign. they would have to find another judge. i think he is keeping his fingers crossed. i think we are also aware of the possibility that judge cannon could go rogue again. >> then there is the whole question of what she can do to the rest of the calendar. let's start this conversation with an opinion you hold that i think is a hard one for people who seek accountability for donald trump to hear. talk to me about your view are the chances that the federal election interference case goes to trial before november. >> i th
>> i don't think jack smith wants to remove her. i think you would rather not do that because it is an extreme measure. she did get adverse rulings including from trump appointees twice. that was in the preindictment phase of this case when it was a civil case brought by trump. a totally bizarre kind of situation. she would in figure of him -- favor of him in a really wacky way. it's sort of like a three strikes and you're out kind of situation. again, i don't think jack smith wants to do...
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donald trump would be able to end both federal prosecutions against him by special prosecutor jack smith, who would be instantly fired by donald trump, and the two state prosecutions against him in new york and georgia would be forced into at least a four year delay until donald trump is no longer president. if donald trump wins, then justice loses. if donald trump wins, human decency loses. if donald trump wins, then all is lost. and as of tonight, most american voters know that. joe biden is going to win millions more votes than donald trump, but this is the country where you can come in second with the voters and still become president. still win. thanks to the perversion of democracy the founders called the electoral college. and as of tonight, not enough people in a handful of so- called battleground states who will decide this election understand the stakes of this election. not enough people in those few states yet understand what they will lose if donald trump wins. and so, we begin tonight with what is now the most important of those stories that we will be covering this year, b
donald trump would be able to end both federal prosecutions against him by special prosecutor jack smith, who would be instantly fired by donald trump, and the two state prosecutions against him in new york and georgia would be forced into at least a four year delay until donald trump is no longer president. if donald trump wins, then justice loses. if donald trump wins, human decency loses. if donald trump wins, then all is lost. and as of tonight, most american voters know that. joe biden is...
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i want to read for you what the new york times is reporting about jack smith. she asked about when smith was going to present the prosecution list. the new york times wrote this -- smith in particular seems shocked by the question and sat up stiff lee in the well of the courtroom, his eyes gone wide in apparent incredulity. there has been a lot of talk specifically in judge aileen cannon's courtroom about -- and other pretrial motions as well in which they talk about the potential harassment of prosecution witnesses. i am wondering if you feel like that is what was playing into this report from the new york times about jack smith's incredulity. >> it sounds like so. they have already requested that some names be withheld from the fence until absolutely necessary. we know that donald trump just has a history of attacking witnesses and prosecutors and judges and juries, so that could be one reason. also, we know that everyone was waiting for a trial date to be announced and one was not at all. there's really no clarity when that case will start. i know there's a
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jack smith has argued this is a matter of national importance, we want votes to know before they go to the polls. on the other side, there are millions of pages in discovery, why speed if up this trial because to speed if it up would also potentially appear if political. howard: yeah. either way, you get a lot of -- >> kind of a rorschach test. howard: yes. >> depending on where you are is how you view this case. howard: and special counsel jack smith knowing the trial was already being delayed, for how long we don't know, he's also handling the classified documents case. expected to take about six weeks. he wants to start in july, trump says august. is this a little like college basketball before the shot clock where one team wants the hurry-up offense and the other is slow-walking everything? >> and the funny thing is the idea of a speedy trial in our legal system is generally to the benefit of a defendant. they have the right to push and say, come on, my justice is being delayed. it's not that it goes to the prosecutorial side which is how it feels in this case. there's no denying t
jack smith has argued this is a matter of national importance, we want votes to know before they go to the polls. on the other side, there are millions of pages in discovery, why speed if up this trial because to speed if it up would also potentially appear if political. howard: yeah. either way, you get a lot of -- >> kind of a rorschach test. howard: yes. >> depending on where you are is how you view this case. howard: and special counsel jack smith knowing the trial was already...
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so the indictment brought by jack smith. the very terms of your analysis, jack smith's indictment actually counseled against and was counted against bringing charges in this case. is that correct? >> i'm sorry, congressman. i don't follow your drift there. >> you said there is already deterrence, there is a prosecution out there in a prior case related to classified documents so we don't need to bring another case to establish value. that was the essence of your analysis, correct? >> congressman, what i'll say is that i will stand by the way and specific words in which i characterize my assessment of deterrence on page 254 and 255. >> my time is out, per verse implication here, by the terms of your analysis made it less likely that the president would face charges by jack smith bringing an indictment. thank you, i yield back. >> mr. chairman, unanimous consent request. i ask unanimous consent to enter into the record two documents, first the superceding indictment against donald trump in the southern district of florida wher
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you're exactly right because he told us when jack smith goes after president trump, joe biden says, how could this happen? what data was in those documents that could compromise sources and methods? it's irresponsible so joe biden knew the role rules, you know, he knew the rules and joe biden told us he knew the rules. so mr. her, why did he break them? >> the conclusion as to exactly why the president did what he did is not one that we explicitly address in the report the report explains my decision to the attorney general that no criminal charges were warranted in this matter. >> i think you did tell us. i think he told us mr. page to 31. you said this president biden had strong motivations. that's a key word. we're getting a motive now, president biden had strong motivations to ignore the proper procedures for safeguarding the classified information in his notebooks. why did he have strong motivations? because you next word, because he decided months before leaving office to write a book, to write a book that was his motive. he knew the rules are broken because he was writing a book.
you're exactly right because he told us when jack smith goes after president trump, joe biden says, how could this happen? what data was in those documents that could compromise sources and methods? it's irresponsible so joe biden knew the role rules, you know, he knew the rules and joe biden told us he knew the rules. so mr. her, why did he break them? >> the conclusion as to exactly why the president did what he did is not one that we explicitly address in the report the report explains...
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special counsel jack smith wants the trial to start in july. while trump's attorneys say the earliest the trials should start is august, although they would prefer never. the ultimate decision here has the potential to create chaos on trump's legal calendar. the later she schedules her trial, the more likely she is to block any january 6 election interference trial from going to trial before the election. and now we have learned that next thursday, judge cannon will hear arguments by team trump to dismiss the documents case altogether. david latt joins me now, a columnist at bloomberg law and the host of the original jurisdiction podcast. it's great to see you. welcome to the program. >> thanks for having me, alex. >> so how do you read the tea leafs on the fact that judge cannon is scheduling a hearing on a motion to dismiss before she has set a trial date? is that not a great sign for people who are hoping to see this trial come to fruition? >> well, she has a lot of work to get through. because the trump team has basically filed a kitchen si
special counsel jack smith wants the trial to start in july. while trump's attorneys say the earliest the trials should start is august, although they would prefer never. the ultimate decision here has the potential to create chaos on trump's legal calendar. the later she schedules her trial, the more likely she is to block any january 6 election interference trial from going to trial before the election. and now we have learned that next thursday, judge cannon will hear arguments by team trump...
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lago jack smith's team clearly disagrees. they countered with this, even if the raft of highly classified documents that trump took from the white house to mar-a-lago. we're somehow categorized as personal under the presidential records act that would not render his retention of those documents authorized what do you think of this? >> so what the former president is trying to do is say that force of our claiming power, no one that he doesn't have, the presidential records act is concerned with keeping our proper record of his official acts while in office. so it's not a case where the business he's conducting dozen is not maintained or historical purpose this is that permits him to designate certain items is personal, meaning. this wasn't me doing something as president, it was me as an individual. that's completely and wholly separate from classified documents, which by any stretch of imagination are going to be presidential in nature. that's all about doing the job of the presidency. the idea that a document regarding nucle
lago jack smith's team clearly disagrees. they countered with this, even if the raft of highly classified documents that trump took from the white house to mar-a-lago. we're somehow categorized as personal under the presidential records act that would not render his retention of those documents authorized what do you think of this? >> so what the former president is trying to do is say that force of our claiming power, no one that he doesn't have, the presidential records act is concerned...
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and now he finds himself at the center of jack smith's indictment of the former president in the classified documents case. and is privy to key parts of that testimony that we read through in those indictments, he provided a lot of that testimony to the special counsel's team about key moments that now will likely potentially go on trial as soon as this summer in this case, one of those jake that you're about to listen to, it moment that we spoke about where main butler told us about how he was on this day in june 2022, not knowing what exactly he was doing, but he was asked to help load boxes. banker boxes, on to trump's plane at an airport in palm beach, florida as the former president was set to go to new jersey now what he did not realize that the time that was happening, then was trump's team, his legal team was meeting with members of the fbi at mar-a-lago after they had just performed a search of that storage room looking for classified documents, which we now know based on the indictment. of course, that evan corcoran trump's attorney, who was looking through those documents walt na
and now he finds himself at the center of jack smith's indictment of the former president in the classified documents case. and is privy to key parts of that testimony that we read through in those indictments, he provided a lot of that testimony to the special counsel's team about key moments that now will likely potentially go on trial as soon as this summer in this case, one of those jake that you're about to listen to, it moment that we spoke about where main butler told us about how he was...
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. >> special counsel, >> da jack smith or herschel counsel? jack smith wants a july 8 start date. and then there's a supreme court set to hear oral arguments the week of april 22, on trump's claim that he has unity in jack smith's election subversion case. and the clock is ticking for trump to come up with now 454 million bucks in his new york civil fraud case. and that also adds interest on a daily basis and super tuesday, remember that? well, that is four days away let's bring in two prominent defense attorneys who know what it's like to have the weight of the government against them. former trump attorney tim parlatore is here and criminal defense attorney brandi hardened, so glad to have both of you guys here. first of all, you all know how difficult it can be obviously to go against the government, right? it's the united states it's verses, there's a lot of resources at play, et cetera the strategy has to be either attack the timing of the trial. obviously, the defense is going to be key, but what is going to be the main strategy? i mean, trump is one defendant, but really hi
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that is the jack smith wasn't constitutionally appointed. these are complicated issues. they need that last one seems it seems maybe potentially farfetched, but also at one point, jay bratt, who is the prosecutor for the special counsel, >> he was actually at mar-a-lago, the de that it was rated, he said that a justice department policy that discourages public investigative actions 60 days before an election doesn't apply here because that implies two indictments or for, or starting an investigation. but given donald trump was charged so long ago in this case, that that's not relevant to you agree with that >> he's technically right. i don't think that it's right that it's not relevant. i think the same policy problems that arise with having the investigation within 60 days or the election or even amplified by having a trial. so i think he's technically right about the policy, but i think the policy ought to be applied to a trial. >> and david, you're from the south. let me ask you on what we were watching today happening in georgia. do you think the defense attorneys ha
that is the jack smith wasn't constitutionally appointed. these are complicated issues. they need that last one seems it seems maybe potentially farfetched, but also at one point, jay bratt, who is the prosecutor for the special counsel, >> he was actually at mar-a-lago, the de that it was rated, he said that a justice department policy that discourages public investigative actions 60 days before an election doesn't apply here because that implies two indictments or for, or starting an...
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also potentially jack smith himself along with his legal team. we have video of the former president arriving in his motorcade today here in fort pierce with some of his supporters outside. the big focus when will this go to trial? it is scheduled to begin here may 20th in florida. but it is likely this date will slide. one of two chief reasons, both sides want it to. special counsel jack smith as of yesterday proposed july 8th to be the new start date. trump's team they could settle on august 12th. another reason trump is claiming in both his federal prosecutions that he should be immune because he was president when the alleged crimes occurred. the supreme court has agreed to take up the presidential immunity issue in late april. meaning a start of a may 20th date nearly impossible. judge eileen cannon appointed by donald trump when he was president is proceeding over the case. she met two weeks ago to go over concerns the government has about producing classified evidence to trump team. as of today, this is called a scheduled hearing. we shoul
also potentially jack smith himself along with his legal team. we have video of the former president arriving in his motorcade today here in fort pierce with some of his supporters outside. the big focus when will this go to trial? it is scheduled to begin here may 20th in florida. but it is likely this date will slide. one of two chief reasons, both sides want it to. special counsel jack smith as of yesterday proposed july 8th to be the new start date. trump's team they could settle on august...
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smith the same way. >> i really do not have the sufficient information with respect to jack smith's investigation to provide any comment on it. >> let me ask you this. president biden in his testimony to you knew the exact date january 20 or whatever it was, became vice president. he left january the 20th. 2009 and then january 2017. he knew the state exactly right. if you knew the exact date in an instant that biden died, with that of changed your decision not to bring a prosecution? >> i cannot engage in hypotheticals about might've been with different facts. what i did was make a decision on the facts and circumstances that i was presented with and we did identify. >> it appears to me and the american public that these minor discrepancies, as far as dates after a long period of time was not the basis. it was not the basis for decision, it was the fact that you didn't have the facts. those with a reason you didn't prosecute, not just because he missed a few dates. >> congressman, my reasons for my declaration decision are set out in my report and i stand by the word to my report,
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jack smith cannot lay claim to such a reputation, isn't that right? >> i have no opinion. >> jack smith, attorney general garland appointed to investigate trump has a -- over zel us prosecutor who relies on unethical dubious tactics and record remreet with string of mistrials and overturned adequates. -- federal bribery statute. according to the supreme court justice. so you know, my question is, do you think in the case of jack smith, you think justice is blind when looking at president trump? is justice truly blind? >> i'm not here to express opinion with pending case. >> i yield balance of my time back. [indiscernible] -- led you to this conclusion? >> congressman jordan, i'm sorry, the mic was turned on halfway through. >> can you explain what specifically in your interview with president biden led you to this conclusion. >> the conclusion -- >> the broad statement cited many times. >> the totality of the time that i spent with the president during his voluntary interview was something that i certainly considered in framing my assessment and artic
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smith the same way. >> i really do not have the sufficient information with respect to jack smith's investigation to provide any comment on it. >> let me ask you this. president biden in his testimony to you knew the exact date january 20 or whatever it was, became vice president. he left january the 20th. 2009 and january 2017. he knew the state exactly right. if you knew the exact date in an instant that biden died, with that of changed your decision not to bring a prosecution? >> i cannot engage in hypotheticals about might've been with different facts. what i did was make a decision on the facts and circumstances that i was presented with and we did identify. >> it appears to me and the american public that these minor discrepancies, as far as dates after a long period of time was not the basis. it was not the basis for decision, it was the fact that you didn't have the facts. those with a reason you didn't prosecute, not just because he missed a few dates. my reasons my declaration decision are set out in my report and i stand by the word to my report, sir. >> thinking. i am en
smith the same way. >> i really do not have the sufficient information with respect to jack smith's investigation to provide any comment on it. >> let me ask you this. president biden in his testimony to you knew the exact date january 20 or whatever it was, became vice president. he left january the 20th. 2009 and january 2017. he knew the state exactly right. if you knew the exact date in an instant that biden died, with that of changed your decision not to bring a prosecution?...
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so that one prosecution, of course, is the indictment brought by jack smith. so by the very terms of your analysis, jack smith's indictment actually counseled against, counted against inthat correct? >> i'm sorry, congressman, i don't follow your draft. >> you said that there's already deterrence because there's this prosecution out there in a prior case related to classified documents. so we don't need to bring another case to establish value. that was the essence of your analysis, correct? >> congressman, what i'll say is that i will stand by the, the way and the specific words in which i characterized my assessment of deterrence value of a case under the principle of federal prosecution threport >> thank you but my up, but i'll just add the perverse implication here is that the administration, by the very terms of your analysis, actually made it less likely that the president would face charges by jack smith bringing an indiment. thank you. i yelled back. >> mr. chairman, i have a unanimous consent request. thank you. i ask unanimous consent to enter into t
so that one prosecution, of course, is the indictment brought by jack smith. so by the very terms of your analysis, jack smith's indictment actually counseled against, counted against inthat correct? >> i'm sorry, congressman, i don't follow your draft. >> you said that there's already deterrence because there's this prosecution out there in a prior case related to classified documents. so we don't need to bring another case to establish value. that was the essence of your analysis,...
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maria: had you don't think president trump will be able to get a fair trial in the jack smith case. >> i think it's impossible. 92% of the district inhabitants voted for joe biden in 2000 and you had 2,000 republicans raise their hands in washington, d.c. and say they were republicans and two thirds of the them voted for nikki haley. i don't think there's a scenario where he can get a fair trial in washington, d.c. maria: where is that going, do you think? >> the immunity question is huge, it's in front of the supreme court, they'll hear it in april, probably issue an opinion in june. i think that's going to be probably the whole ballgame most likely but we'll see what the justices do because, again, it's a novel legal theory from jack smith trying to bring these cases and record the january 6th case also has a fairly flawed theory of prosecution as well, the supreme court's going to hear later in the term and i think that could undermine a lot of the case against trump as well in washington, d.c. maria: do you expect trump to be in trial before the election? >> well, i mean, i think
maria: had you don't think president trump will be able to get a fair trial in the jack smith case. >> i think it's impossible. 92% of the district inhabitants voted for joe biden in 2000 and you had 2,000 republicans raise their hands in washington, d.c. and say they were republicans and two thirds of the them voted for nikki haley. i don't think there's a scenario where he can get a fair trial in washington, d.c. maria: where is that going, do you think? >> the immunity question...
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back in december, the special prosecutor jack smith asked the supreme court to bypass the court of appeals, in order to make, quote, intermediate definitive decision on the question of presidential immunity. as we saw with the nixon tapes, that's not an unprecedented nor and request. especially on a matter of most national importance. but the supreme court tonight smith's request and sent the case to the court of appeals instead. then, even after the court of appeals issued its ruling on february the six, the supreme court took 22 days just to announce it will wait another 51 days to hear the case. it's a decision that will have ripple effects, not just on trump's legal cases, but on americans to moxie itself. the federal january 6th case in d.c. remains indefinitely paused until this particular question is resolved. moreover, trump estimate a similar claim he is a mean for prosecution in florida, where he's facing criminal charges for improperly holding on to classified government records, and obstructing justice after he left the presidency. and that case could also get delayed as a resu
back in december, the special prosecutor jack smith asked the supreme court to bypass the court of appeals, in order to make, quote, intermediate definitive decision on the question of presidential immunity. as we saw with the nixon tapes, that's not an unprecedented nor and request. especially on a matter of most national importance. but the supreme court tonight smith's request and sent the case to the court of appeals instead. then, even after the court of appeals issued its ruling on...
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i think voters should know the answer to the jack smith case the fani willis case too. we have verdicts in new york and other places donald trump is facing 91 criminal indictments. i think that voters should know the answers to those questions before they got to the polls i think our judicial system should move as fast as possible. it is ludicrous to overturn an election as part of his officil capacity. krista got that leave it there only because i want to make sure we get to the news that mitch mcconnell is moving on. people get into the right "new york times" has contenders immediately began wooing their colleagues a chance to become the first new face of their party in the senate and almost two decades. we have at least john cornyn and others are expected to join as well per. >> exactly they have moved quickly as on the hill talking to senators and multiple offices told me they have been hearing the force of the three john two john thune, john barrasso, john court imprint they are moving quickly this is going to be a long leadership election. there are certainly some
i think voters should know the answer to the jack smith case the fani willis case too. we have verdicts in new york and other places donald trump is facing 91 criminal indictments. i think that voters should know the answers to those questions before they got to the polls i think our judicial system should move as fast as possible. it is ludicrous to overturn an election as part of his officil capacity. krista got that leave it there only because i want to make sure we get to the news that...
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jack smith's office said august. donald trump's team said september immediately took it back saying really they don't think the case should go to trial before the election. jump cannon hasn't ruled or set a new date. the current date is not happening obviously because so much litigation and motions practice left to has in this case. she's really dragging it out. whether it's, some people argue just an inexperienced judge. not used to dealing with complex matters about classified information and taking her time. result of that is that this case is taking a long time to get to trial. >> ken dilanian, thank you very much. joining us now former assistant district attorney add the manhattan district attorney's office and misnbt legal analyst and msnbc legal correspondent sitting with me here in the studio. lisa, bring me up to speed on the arguments that trump's team was making in court. were there any that judge aileen cannon seemed to be a little softer on? >> well, at one point during the hearing today according to our
jack smith's office said august. donald trump's team said september immediately took it back saying really they don't think the case should go to trial before the election. jump cannon hasn't ruled or set a new date. the current date is not happening obviously because so much litigation and motions practice left to has in this case. she's really dragging it out. whether it's, some people argue just an inexperienced judge. not used to dealing with complex matters about classified information and...
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jack smith's first went to the supreme court in december and asked the justices to quickly take up the issue so that the trial would not be delayed. you know what the court did. they declined to do so. then, after the u.s. court of appeals for the d.c. circuit ruled trump was not immune in february, smith again urge the court to -- february 14th. you know what the court did? and instead, waited two weeks to announce it would take the case. what's clear now is only the american people can save american democracy. not joe biden, not the democratic party, and while the supreme court could, that obviously does not want to do so. president obama's attorney general, or i should say president biden's attorney general, eric holder, excuse me, -- summed up the current state of affairs quite well. there is no recovery coming, numerical solution, no saviors. in the end, we, the american people, not any of our institutions, have to save our democracy by voting in defense of that democracy this fall. we are the cavalry. the responsibility is hours. joining me now, charles coleman -- former brooklyn
jack smith's first went to the supreme court in december and asked the justices to quickly take up the issue so that the trial would not be delayed. you know what the court did. they declined to do so. then, after the u.s. court of appeals for the d.c. circuit ruled trump was not immune in february, smith again urge the court to -- february 14th. you know what the court did? and instead, waited two weeks to announce it would take the case. what's clear now is only the american people can save...